The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 435 | Shaking The Tree
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On this episode: Joe, Rory, Mal, and Parks discuss new camera angles, transparency, and respect between friends. Mal shares his thoughts on having other people on the show and what he would have done differently, Joe believes Rory & Mal didn’t behave as friends, and the guys voice whether or not they feel respected. The JBP addresses caring about money, hypotheticals on the podcast ending, and Parks & Joe give their own takes on how the situation played out. Joe speaks to entitlement, how he felt towards Mal for riding with Rory, and Mal unfollowing him on social media. The guys share how they feel about podcasting, abandonment, and the JBP fanbase. Julius Randle, feelings towards Ice and Ish, DMX’s memorial service, Justin Bieber’s dreads, Snowfall vs. The Wire, Re-recording songs, and MORE! Sleeper Picks: Joe | NBDY - “F.O.E” Rory | Chiiild - “Gone” Mal | Belly - “IYKYK” Parks | Khrysis - “Why” (Ft. Problem)
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This the most Mal has talked in YEARS bruh had a lot to get off his chest 🤣
His chest was HEAVY
I love to see it
Rightfully so. I couldn’t imagine how much of a headache it would be being Joe’s friend for so many hears
Well Joe been telling his side of the whole situation and for the last 6 weeks wym
He just crying and complaining. Send his ass back home
You could tell joe just wanted to yell “I’m the boss and y’all ain’t shit” 😂😂😂
😂
he's right lol thats the worst part
And my man joe should’ve doubled down and said it since they were laying it all on the table
I don’t get how they don’t know the hierarchy. They acting like they all equal and it’s just not the case. The pod goes on without them, it doesn’t go on without Joe
53:02 is precisely where joe was going to say this
Believe it or not, some people can be happy that Mal and Rory are back and still miss Ice and Ish’s contributions at the same time. It’s okay, lol.
The shit that killed me was all the joe fanboys shitting on mal and rory and being toxic to fans that missed them lol now it's our turn with ice and ish 😈
Yep!
Im one of those ppl. I was hopin they took the time to be gone while ice & ish do their things. I am happy they're back
Agreed cause Ish and Ice did a great job.
You poddin
Who came back to this after Rory & Mal's response?
Present like I gotta see the shift in chemistry
It’s such a different podcast now
I had to gauge the tension
We all did lol
Lol I sure did
Joe contradicting himself saying he doesn't owe his friends anything but expects Mal to ride with him against Rory smh
Excalty 🤦🏽♂️
It’s crazy 🤦🏽♀️
Mal was there in the trenches talking about POP 😂
One is respect and one is loyalty
@@wisdomsfruit joe is that you buddy 😄🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe: "Contractual you have obligations, friendship aside"
Joe 3 minutes later: "I don't give a fuck about contracts"
This man will say anything to avoid accountability.
Shit is sick
EXACTLY 💯
and that’s why we love him lmao why don’t these two make their own podcast and see what happens
He doesn't give a fuck about a contract when he's bound but wants to go and bind others to the contracts. Joe is the guy who complains about being jerked in his career and will go on to jerk other people the same way. Joe was never principled, he switches his stance on so many things based what is good for him at the moment not what is right or wrong.
@@Mac_Raymond It’s the same thing he does every time Puff’s name is brought up.
For 3hrs Joe’s brain kept asking itself.
“Why do they keep saying Our podcast”
🤔
Basically 😂😂😂
Lmaooo that one 😭😭😭
Bruhhh ahahahajajaajja
this got it
This is the comment I've been looking for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is exactly what I was thinking
Joe wants Mal to be blind loyal but Mal is not built like that. Find that in Parks only
Faxxx
Mal clearly don't understand business! Mal can stand on the corner and shoot the shhh! It's a business Joe is the main attraction! The hell with the friendship friends don't take care of your family! Your business does!
@@panchopablo6887 you can do both, you see the thing in business u meet so many suckers the bigger ypu get you need from the mud reminders dont let these narrative fool you jay still roll with his day 1s tah tah.. diddy his & list goes on
@@jpjuster2352 all business Tah Tah play his position Loyally! Why hang with another business minded individual such as Diddy? He understand boardrooms and the industry! Iron sharpens iron! Lets be clear Jay Z is the image and Sean Carter is the Businessman!
Facts!! Text book narcissist
"I've realized people aren't built like me"- Respectful way of telling someone they don't have morals or principles like YOU do..
Mal is far from respectful.
Naw it could mean a bunch of things
I’m the same way. Clearly they don’t
Word
@@thomasbost9512 fr?
Joe saying he doesn’t feel he owes his friends respect is wild. It’s like he’s putting the beef back in the oven.
DA BEEF WASN'T COOKED TO 165 JUST YET🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂😂
That’s just Joe trying to win a argument with semantics
Good, bring Ice and Ish back
@Father Strength lol and when is this soon? Joe is an ego maniac. Listen to him. My god, he can't ever stop.
You are witnessing the worst of human ego in real time.
A person's ego and arrogance will even destroy themselves along with everything else.
Mal peeps all Joe’s antics, but he picks and chooses his battles.
Rory thinks he deserves the same level of respect as Joe. Swear to you, as soon as he gets a better deal he will leave.
Anyone that knows this podcast from when it first started it was called all name this podcast later The minute they let him call it the Joe Budden podcast they became a Joe Budden employees now how much value is in that depends on how much value they bring to the table that being said Joe will never get exactly where he wants to be in life if he keeps over playing his hand what he is a true showman and I think at the end of the day he really don't care cuz he knows he's going to bounce back no matter what
@@bmike633 on top of that. When he keeps saying "where could you do what you did and just come back" basically saying where can you challenge your boss to hands & expect him not to tell you to stay home. Then how do you leave a 15yr relationship to fend for a million dollar podcast in spite of that.
To be honest I haven't heard the podcast in a little while so I didn't hear the whole throwing hands thing but when they brought that up that is ridiculous Rory looks like a cornball You're on a show called the The Joe Budden podcast and you're trying to fight your boss Joe button that would wipe the floor with you is ridiculous so I think the only thing Joe was wrong about was the way he treated Mal and mal was probably just like yo let's all get together the white boy has feelings I don't want to mess up what we got going on it's really not that hard but Rory is definitely an executive Cornwall it's not about what your boss gets it's about what you bring to your bosses workplace now if the podcast was called the three amigos or something stupid then they should all have a piece of pie but Joe is not a dummy he's getting the biggest piece because he is the biggest showman and they let it happen so stop whining and do your job.
@@bmike633 its not even that. Joe put up the capital to talk that talk. And what he said to mal was that exact point. It isnt none of your business contractually. Joe would take the fall if the pod failed. So Mal tryna govern his decisions is dumb asf whenever it comes to something personal between the two and he didnt help resolve that.
You can tell this was the goodbye episode of a legacy.
They snakes that’s all
@@plentywater773 huh?
Yeah. I'M SAVING THIS!!! 😱👆🏿
Foreal... shit is so fuckin sad. And the fact that this shit has been goin on for years.. they were really good at hiding the behind the scenes shit until the past couple months.
....or something like that 🥸
I just know Ice got a bunch of outfits in his closet he was hoping to get off at least one time....
Lol😂😂😂
🤣💀
😂😂😂
I legit laughed out loud bro
Pin this comment 😂😂😂😂
That moment Joe had with Hov was the scene in the movie where the innocent little kid becomes a supervillain. Bro will never forget it😂😂
the kid from the incredibles lol
And his guys bogus for laughing
Joe really just wanted to tell that story cause that shit aint even had no correlation😭😭😭
@@reggiericardo8919 THANK YOU 😭
@@reggiericardo8919 it was layered
I am insanely frustrated for Mal. Looks like he wanted to spaz on Joe several times. lol
Factsss u can see it in his face
All Mal was some RESPECT !!!
He's still torn about having a friend who's also your boss. That much was very clear.
Mal looks lil up set
Nah fr he was hella quiet
“If you wanna see if people are really friends, put some money on the table”
- Mal
As if Joe put nothing up for the podcast.
Mak Stoke that quote.
@@Ntw24 “which is why he gets the percentage he gets” ~ R & M
@@Bugneedfix Joe explained what kinda deal they had. Mixy boys actually seem to not know what's in the contract though. Joe clearly says they had a net income percentage. Whatever Joe made NET, they got their percentages of that. If they misunderstood or didn't know about it, that's on them.
@@Ntw24 so why would Joe get mad if they asked to see the numbers??? They're on a % based contract. Not salary. So if the show do , lets say $500,000 and they're contract calls for 10%, thats 50k. But if they show start getting more sponsors and now its doing 1mil but u still only getting 50k instead of 100k now, that aint right and of course u gon try to see the numbers and whats going on. Any person with business sense would...
Mal & joes friendship took more of a hit than Rory who he had the actual problems with.
YES! there'll never be the same again
Agreed.
They'll get passed it
So true
Facts! Joe and Mals relationship goes beyond before even Rory.
Lol wait... Joe is saying that Mal owes him loyalty over Rory, but he doesnt owe Mal respect?
Joe a gaslighter. He got a PhD in gaslighting
Joe is a sociopath . The stupid kind.
Make it make sense lord🙄
I think what he was trying to say is him and mal were friends before they even knew rory so he feels like he shouldn't have been on Joe's side over rory cause the were friends longer
@@chrisfetter8617 Even though he doesn't respect Mal?
Damn when Mal said “You didn’t build anything with Jay, He’s not your friend” i think he hurt JB feelings 😂😂💀☠️
wasn't that the goal
He gave Joe a little dose of reality
Time ?
Lmaoo was a crazy example joe tried to use
@@wuzi9818 around the 30 mins mark
Who came back here after the *"Your'e Fired !?"* rant today ?
foreel, i had to see where it started lol
@@denair2629 It didn't start here though. Would have to go back a few episodes even before this one.
Facts n Mal justs looks worse smh. How do u tell the boss youre wrong for telling someone to take a few days off. Mal was wrong for thinking hes on Joes level. You were an employee and theres nothing wrong with that. They let Akademiks get in their head, so they tried to bully their way into ownership of JBP. Name one place where you can start as an employee and get a raise to part owner. lmao. Yall look like spoiled brats.
@@richdropoutsmoova Why y’all think Ak was a fatass factor in this.. The common denominator in every failed relationship Joe has had business wise or elsewhere is JOE..
@@dondavo_ nah Joe was 100% right on this. This all makes sense. These idiots tried to leverage their friendship for something they didnt create
In 435 episodes, this is the quietest Joe has ever been for a whole 30 minutes and in that 30 minutes, he did not hear shit they said.
Facts..he ain’t listen to shit. Nor did he care about their feelings
😂
Not a gah damn thing!!
Facts!!😂😂
Not SHIT lmao
Joe: Take some pods off
Also Joe: You can’t just leave the pod
Exactly i see why joe got sock on back in the day
Tbf he just wanted rory to take the pods off..
No other statements meant anything else besides what you wrote. Joe told him not to come in period. Only point joe had was Mal didn’t show or talk to him when he tried to talk to him about the issues
@@SquintyTV yeah but he can’t be mad, that Rory and mal “abandoned” the show, cause he told them to do just that
Right. Talking about "y'all left" and "we had to scramble". You asked Rory to take time off. He left because of you. Joe is my man, but he's full of shit. He loves to twist shit into his favor.
Joe Has An Amazing Ability To Act Like He Don’t Understand People When They Right...
He be podding.
Virgo
I stg he has a problem and that’s sad smh
Lol dawg!!!!
Because he always wanna be right. His ego is way crazy
Who is watching this in 2024
Joes narcissism has never been more apparent. It’s crazy how dead wrong he be and either try to justify it or spin the narrative
Fr, and almost had me siding with him 🤣
How was he wrong?
I don’t see how joe is wrong tho for real 🤷🏽
@@jaytayGO Joe isn't wrong and people (like Mal) fail to understand he is a boss...
@@OwlCapone8630 that’s facts people like mal don’t understand even though joe and him are and we’re friends before this.. Joe is also his boss now wether he likes it or not
Joe: Don't come in to pod BECAUSE I'm telling you to.
Also Joe: You abandoned the pod BECAUSE you wanted to.
Rory:🤨
Mal:🗣RESPECT & TRANSPARENCY‼️
Parks:🦵🏻
The accuracy 💯‼️
Joe is seriously bipolar I don’t even know if he can help it 😩
THIS IS THE ONE!
😂😂😂😂
This is what Savon should’ve put for time stamps 🤣🤣🤣
Mal not letting Joe talk him in circles? Magical.
*NEW RORY AND MAALLL*
@@ChewyPlz bars
That's years of noticing BS
@@lungelobaba9942 facts 💯
He knows Joe.
Yo Joe is crazy yo 🤣 this nigga will let you pour out all your feelings n then be like I hate to burst your bubble 😒 lml
Joe is using kid gloves. He is way worse with people he doesn't know.
bro when he said.. "nah i understand because im listening... and all i hear is feelings" my heart dropped and i died bruhhh lmfao
Joe wanting loyalty from Mal but saying he doesn’t owe his friends anything is such a Joe thing to do. Smh lol
But he said he gives respect freely. But doesn't owe respect.
@@SKY-fu1vw what did he mean by that
@@SKY-fu1vw yeah that really confused me how does he think friends aren't owed a different level of respect than strangers damn
YES!!! Joe trying to be right but loud and wrong as hell
Joe is so nuts 😂
The fact Joe was baffled at the whole "owe friends respect" topic says it all... More problems will arise unfortunately..
Respect is earned not owed, and respect is something you choose to give based on a persons actions and merits. It’s not owed to anyone, i felt Joe on that he doesn’t owe them shit
@@KJBreezy21 oh please. They’ve been there through it all, and helped build this podcast. They earned respect.
@@craymay4766 They should’ve said that then not owe lol
@@KJBreezy21 "respect is earned not owed" that has to be a joke. Those two has earned far more than respect.
Then I guess they aren't friends.
A complete masterclass of how to avoid accountability.
Lmfao
😂
For what?
Dead
He’s a narc 😅
Watching this after watching Mal & Rory's response is crazy!
That’s exactly what I’m doing rn
Yo I loved this !! First time never heard of it.I have heard of Joe some what. Look I like what yal doing real talk !! Mal ! Keep that 1000 SALUTE !! You like me you wrong you wrong YOU CAN BE MY KIDS I DONT PLAY THEM GAMES !! BUDDEN !! I RESPECT YOU TO CAUSE YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAID !! ITS WHAT IT IS !! THAT IS ME TOO. DOPE !!!
They sat here 3 hours tapdancing and lying saying it wasn't about money
Facts
“I’m never gonna expect people to move how I move”. - Stand Tall Mal. You definitely owe your friends more than people off the street.
No because it depends on what it is .
The only thing you may owe a friend is help
@@jmc5910 the stupidity 😭
Everybody needs a laptop...not just joe. Joe seems to feel they're not looking at him as the leader or main peace....and he has a problem with that. The energy is off...and im gonna give them a month.
You missed what Joe was saying. The shit is about entitlement. You don't owe NOBODY shit unless they ya kids or responsibility. They making a living by being there. They showed that they don't care about the podcast AS MUCH as he does so they can be the WORKERS and he make the boss decisions because it's the joe Budden mf podcast this why friends and family mixed with business never works out.
@@xLamont_ The problem is Joe's brain has been ruined by drugs so he has a hard time grasping the perspective of people who believe that if you both consider yourself to be friends, have a history of knowing each, sharing life moments, know each other's family, events and overall have a fantastic standing then MOST PEOPLE believe that you and they OWE each other honesty and communication.
The problem is Joe doesnt feel he owes anyone anything to anybody but he also said he shows respect to strangers in the street. Then Mal asked if they deserve it then Joe didnt answer the question 3 times then admitted no they dont. Joe's brain is kaput. Joe has said before he has "Never lost a friend cus of *some words*." Thats a funny statement cus its both Gaslighting and a completely stupid statement to make if you value your friends outside of monetary gain which he has eluded to that he doesnt.
Joe doesnt understand a lot which is fine because hes human but being ignorant isnt the same as being stupid. Joe is stupid.
The beef is really Joe and Mal. Mal stands on integrity and Joe wanna dance around it and not see his wrong doings. Joe was pissed when Mal stood with Rory.
Mal feel a new way about Joe
@@kmir1791 I agree 100%. Mal stands on old school morals. Joe talking from a man who got the bag now and lost his morals.
Yeah Joe was definitely trippin. I'm tripping that he said his friends and people in the street get the same respect. That made me feel some type of way lol!
Mal was friends with Joe for years. They lived together at one time. He using the rory situation to act like he so loyal. His loyalty should be with joe especially since they were supposed to be real friends. Mal just showing his jealousy of Joes success. They got to realize in the end its the JOE BUDDEN PODCAST. They are not equal in the business.
@@LeoLady7266 you go with who is right, if you would ride with your friend over another friend when you know hes wrong just because you knew him longer your morals and character is seriously questionable
Lol Joe was trying so hard to refrain from saying “this my shit! Y’all just work here” 😂😂
Facts
AK been telling these niggas for months they employees, and they acting surprised that Joe acting like he they boss 😂
I said the exact same thing!
Lmaoooo dead ass
@No Reason At All If I was Parks, I'd be like "I run shit hea, y'all just pod hea. "
Damn Parks kinda lame
Joe saying he doesn't think he owes his friends respeck, is very telling about him as a person
I scrolled for this
I agree...
joe & especially parks treating this like business lol
mal + rory were right tho
Friends Get Disrespectful Sometimes🤷🏽♂️
Facts
Parks is MASTER level at dodging questions directed at him LOL
Parks is a Mediator
Im starting to dislike parks now .. was real vocal when they wernt here and all he doing its Driding joe like cmon anyone knows that its joe who not moving right on this one
Y’all tripping
Parks was in the toughest spot out of all of this
They record at his crib
@@Nextdoorovo how ? Right is right and wrong is wrong. Joe is wrong and Parks should let him know at least from a business standpoint
My dog got that ultra instinct in this shit 😂😂
Imma at least give them a round of applause for sitting down like men and having an actual conversation, no matter how awkward it was 🤷🏾♀️
Joe didn't understand a word of this "conversation". But I guess Rory and Mal are just operating on a different level of loyalty and friendship.
@@ObiVEVO facts
Unfortunately I think you’re right. he just wanted them to vent I didn’t see a lot of listening on his end.
@@ObiVEVO I don’t get it. Joe is running a business. What’s all this friendship thing?
@@Yalenga10 u ain't lyin
Parker is like a teachers pet for joe budden, he’s a yes man 100%.
Joe could say, “I don’t even respect my mother.”
Parks would say, “yeah I agree, no one should respect their mother.”
Lmao
Lmfaooooooooooo
Wtf 😂 😂 😂
Parker 😂💀
@@CN3Music that niggas name is Parker from now on. 🤣
"theres an audience that you left" YOU TOLD HIM TO LEAVE, Joe really aint shit 😂
💯. Pride comes before the fall
Some counseling is needed
THISSS AF
😂😂😂
He didn’t tell him to leave permanently. If your co worker is trying to fight you every week on the show, hell yeah take a few off and get your head right. It’s a business others have to eat, it all can’t stop because of you bugging. Take a break and come back. I don’t see the issue with that part. Joe was tripping when he was talking about respecting his friends.
I remember when Pusha T looked Mal in the face and said "YOU CAN"T MAKE PEOPLE BE BUILT LIKE YOU"... Mal learned that lesson first hand in this nonsense. He OVERSTANDS now.
Facts!!
Mal left cause Joe hurt his feelings, then he unfollowed him. I know mad niggas built like that.
Definitely remember that
Joe deep down looks at it like I’m the creator and owner of the show yes they add to the show but they don’t define the existence or survival of the show they enhance but it is what it is and that’s a Business this is why the old golden rule is don’t mix Business with friendship it very rarely works out and clearly you can see how easily the lines got crossed for people get confused as to what the role is Especially when ego is involved glad that are you man enough to try and work it all out💯
Mal litterally unfollowed his "day one" after letting Rory threaten him to his face multiple times. Sounds like butt hurt to me.
the composure these dudes are able to keep in the face of such gaslighting is admirable.
Facts. Soon as I saw the boys back, I knew de-nial river would be flowing smh.
You know what you get when you go against the gaslight king.
@@Demsky83 now That should be a t-shirt
Facts!
Lol, good self awareness bruh
When ever I feel like I need friends....I come back to this episode lol
LOOOOOOOOL
😂😂😂😂
Nasty behaviour 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Facts
The vibe feels like a couple reuniting after a horrible fight..
How hard you think Ish would’ve punched Joe if he said he didn’t owe him respect for being his friend
Lmaoooo this is hilarious, I can tell Ish will definitely punch him dead in his shit 🤣 I think Joe know that too.
Facts , ish would have forsure got heated , Joe wouldn’t say something like that to him. But I don’t understand why joe would say something like that to Rory and Mal though . And I don’t like how Parks didn’t speak up when Joe said that wild shit .
👊🏾🤜🏾🤛🏿
@@Boom_Boy_o7 he don't respect them..respect was lost somewhere along the way
Sometimes when you get close to someone it's easy to feel less respect toward them. Not saying it's right, but when you know someone in and out you feel different toward them because you are so familiar with who they are and all of their faults. You might not always agree with them or how theyre acting and the respect level changes while you evaluate the situation, but it doesn't go away.. At the end of the day respect is extremely important to a good friend or relationship. Just saying sometimes it happens between close people and it needs to be worked out. When you are invested in a person, a problem that seems small to an outsider can be a really big deal to the people involved. Think about if your parents fuck up or do something you don't like. You're gonna feel it a lot more than if a stranger fucks up
Edit: OK I just got to where Joe said he doesn't owe friends respect, that's weird. you gotta give your homies respect always
Joe starting his speech off with that hov story just set the tone for me. Lol He is simply unable to accept that he is wrong
How is he wrong bro?
@@daswjon u can’t say to your friends who helped you build something great “so what” when they communicating to you how they felt disrespected.
He tried to use jay z example saying hov brushed him off so he should be able to brush them off. Joes relationship with hov is 1000% different then, joe relationships with Rory and mall.
“So what” lol
@@z7513 I feel you on the hov metaphor... bad correlation. But besides that, what do you think about him replacing Mal and Rory? Was he wrong for that?
@@LinkPellow great point
Biggest tragedy in all this is we were robbed of Mal and Kevin Samuels in the same room.
Mal wouldnt have added any substance to that convo lmao
@@H0USE4100 in your feelings. Mal living rent free in alot of people minds
@@H0USE4100 I know. Wtf he talkin bout 😂
I would’ve like to see that. Him and Rory would’ve been hilarious.
@@H0USE4100 bro Mal been preaching everything Kevin Samuel is saying since 2011 lol
Parks corny af…
Joe started it with saying he would throw hands a long time ago, he created that energy and rory responded with the same energy its just been so drawn out that Joe don't remember he started that part publicly
Okay, I'm not the only one who caught that
Man I commented this when he was saying he dont challenge his friends to a fight.he always the one challenging rory to a fight.hes always done it! To mal too!!!
I think episode 357 an hour or so in.
@Ariel fully blown
he was joking. joe always gets up and play fights with mal. rory seemed serious about really fighting.
Joe: Friends don't OWE each other
Also Joe: Mal you should have rolled wit me not rory
CRAZY TALK: ACTIVATE
lol dude is mad crazy but i get him man, he def different. Not in a bad way either, not fully at least
Don't owe each other RESPECT.. you missed the respect part, i fixed it for you 👍🏾
joe contradicts himself too often and makes some silly points a lot
Respect is not onesided. To get respect you have 2 give it. Mal left the pod for over a month. People working 4 them depends on the money. That's respect. Is that a boss move. Other jobs you will be unemployed immediately
Crazy that Mal of all people is the one who has the most emotional intelligence and the one that values the friendship the most. Joe is a genuine narcissist.
@@adriananderson3979 you don’t read well huh
@@adriananderson3979 they said genuine* lol
@@adriananderson3979 "Genuine" isn't related to "genius"
Right. Joe can’t even acknowledge how his “friends” feel the way they feel. He’s a terrible friend
From the friendship aspect Mal is right.
This isnt about that. This is business.. I been where they are at.. I got cut out of something I helped build.. They were right to cut me out....
Joe was right to cut them out and keep it moving.
Joe knew this whole episode that he was going to fire these guys
He knew he had to.
Most of the audience did too lol
Joe got mad ads on here, it has 1 million views. His plan was to bring them back just to rob them again.
The thing is... He can't fire them though... 😂
@@jess4now12 why not?
This is basically Joe saying I’m the boss and y’all the employees...dude got them sitting next to each other now and shit lmao
Facts
Yup
LmAo OWNERSHIP!
He is the boss. Mal doesn’t give the same effort as the boss and thinks he should have equal say. Also, his respect view is ignorant because he doesn’t have an understanding of business. Respect as the friend of the boss is to support as much as possible. If I work with my friend(I’ve had friends work for me and I’ve worked for friends), there should be a certain respect to support the friend who is the boss as much as possible. I was my friend’s best worker and my other friend was my best worker. I understand not to expect special friend privileges in the workplace. Mal doesn’t want to build the network, but wants to be viewed as an owner when decisions are made.
It’s the JOE BUDDEN PODCAST 🎙
Mal & Joe’s beef still isn’t resolved lowkey lol
none of it is resolved. they're just coming together to salvage the business. If those contracts have a time limit i'm guessing mal stops the pod as soon as he can
Mal and rory only came back cause ice and ish was getting too much love
The respect aint there. Joe doesn't realize how much of a snake he sounds like.
@@only1colione Joe could FIRE rory if he wanted to, so Mal saying that he can't tell rory to not come in today makes no sense
@@gloryboysteve8049 And that's the problem within the so called "friendship". That's a lack of respect, and if Joe wants to be the boss he can. He just cant act surprised when his friend wants to f**k him up. You cant play both sides of the fence. 🤷🏿♂️ If Rory, Parks and Mal left together to start their own pod, a lot(if not most) of us would watch them instead.
How’s Joe gonna say “take time off” and agreed “everyone go to their separate corners” then say they abandoned him. Wild! 🙄
He said they but I think he was singling out mal right there
Extremely
I think he only talking about Mal. Him and Rory had an agreement, while Mal not showing up blind sided him.
💯!!!
he's a sicko
I guess the recent news brought us all back to this episode...it was fun while it lasted but the only constant thing in life is change
U realize an argument could be made that your using semantics with sensitive and emotional. Yet I’m not gonna sit here and act like I don’t get what your putting out there.
@@JaeDee66 ngl...Idk wtf you're talking about
@@fawcue5844 semantics meaning: two words describing the same thing. However I still understand what your saying. please tell me you and three people aren’t this slow?
Think he’s essentially saying “if change is constant then nothing last forever. Everything comes to an end so everything is fun for however long it’s happening, until change comes.
Think he’s essentially saying “if change is constant then nothing last forever. Everything comes to an end so everything is fun for however long it’s happening, until change comes.
Joe really wild! He really tried to compare Hov killing him on his own beat and not apologizing to him disrespecting Mal and Rory and not needing to apologize. Joe IS the nasty award 🥇
Yeah, that wasn’t a good example he used 😹
Joe is a fucking criminal for that lol
He is stupid
Fam I glad you caught. There was ZERO correlation
yep, bad analogy. but he meant that mal should have brushed off the disrespectful things that he said. or at least , come to work,not go on strike and almost destroy the pod
It’s all make sense now, MAL is mad because Joe tried to Aunt Viv him 😂🤦🏽♂️
🤣
BRUH I'M CLOCKING OUT🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂😂
Actually, Joe Aunt Viv'd Marisa Mendez with Mal back in the day. Ice and Mal were the original Ice and Ish lol. Mal just ended up staying fulltime.
LMFAOOOOO
@@know_no_th3ory128 I'm glad you know that. A lot of people don't
Joe said he doesn't owe his friends respect but he's telling Mal he owes him loyalty. Wild.
That's the dumbest shit I ever heard in my entire life. Joe was never the brightest though. S/O Lil B.
Nobody fn knew Mal before JOES PODCAST.. Mal too fn sensitive shht is annoying hopefully he don't come back
Id have to agree with Joe. Respect and Loyalty are two different things.
@@bluv4579 what does that even mean. More fame dosent always mean more money in the entertainment industry. You think Mal was living in a cold trap house doing hand to hands before the pod?
joe says plenty dumb shit but thats on the list tho
They didn’t abandon the show JOE told rory to sit out for a while. Mal is the only one who actually left the pod on his own accord. Joe painting the narrative they left is psycho
I feel like if i have a show with my name on it and all, and i invite you to join me and you spend prolonged amounts of time on said show, saying you want to whoop my ass and im to pussy to fight you.... You left.
@@mixtapeweezy6871 'I feel' is irrelevant. The FACT is that Joe told Rory to take time off
Exactly. Mal a libra. They're fake af! Peep how he's trying to say "We built this together,"? No nigga this Joe shit.
@@michael43567 right but its also a fact in any workplace that if you threaten to fight you boss, or even coworker, you're making decisions that will lead to you leaving. Sure, at the end of the day, you may have been fired. But you knew (or should have known) that what your actions are what lead to that. In a sense, you chose to leave. You chose to be fired. Im glad they are back, but nobody is above personal responsibility or accountability. But that's just my take.
@@mixtapeweezy6871 that comment rory said had nothing to do with Joe's bullshit in this situation
It would be real hard to be a true friend with Joe. His definition and expectations of friendship is all fucked up
Yeah. Joe is who he is at the core & it's amplified now that he has money.
Ish and Ice were cool af and Parks.. Rory n Mal just sensitive mfas
@@bluv4579 Didn’t Joe say he didn’t speak to Ish for years? Joe is like DMX they believe whatever it is you should get past it, if you truly love him/them… That’s why they love their dogs… Lol… My psychoanalysis of Joe…
Its an "industry friend"
They will be friends until its not beneficial. Then they will show their true colors or their selfish ways.
Honestly a lot of people like that, not even just industry friends
FACTS
Joe saying rory abandoned an audience, and trying to make him feel guilty, while joe told him to take time off is fucking wildddd!! And he was trynna make rory agree wtf!!!!
I was thinking the same thing lol None of this would’ve happened if he wouldn’t have told Rory to take a break from the pod.
😂
Rory shouldnt have agreed to take time off and he should jave said nah fuck that we have a show to do. Joe was testing them and they let Joe down by actually leaving
@@danielcamacho4166 thats some psycho shit if true
@@danielcamacho4166 exactly!!! I didn’t feel like typing that but thank you 😂. Not to sound sexist but it’s basically what females do when they testing you. They mainly want to see how you respond.
Idk why i randomly came back to this but i did lol
Facts, Bro‼️ Every other week, I go back and listen to the old pods. 🥲 2018 - 2020 imo was the Golden era for me. Episode 164 "Outstanding" is the episode that stamped it for me.
@@roro_92yfr, the pinnacle of podcasts, this shit used to make me lmao. Can’t believe how they went out
Am I the only one who realizes that all Mal wanted was respect? 😂
Man, I'm reading these comments before even watching feelin insane. Like, weren't Mal and Joe friends?? Like even if Joe's the boss doesn't a 25 year friendship mean something to him? Like those stories about them bein in jail n shit they always talked about? Joe just comes off as some weirdo ego tripping cause patreon gave him a fake title lmao.
Right like is that your friend or nah cause I’m not treating my mans like that
He only pinned that tweet on his Twitter when it happened lol
@@jay-r6744 Yup and Yup.. You sir are correct. Lets see how long this last.
im saying... Mal is the only consistent solid one. stood up for his friend, asked for respect, thats it. Joe is a disrespectful ego maniac but ppl acting like hes not the problem. hes been the problem at every place hes ever worked lol
I feel like Joe head is in *“I’m the boss and I just so happen to be friends with my employees.”*
While Mal and Rory feel like *“we just so happened to be having fun w/friends and it turned into a job.”*
The lines can definitely get blurred with friendship and business the only thing mal did wrong was not pulling up in a timely manner leaving joe no option but to make replacements. Joe ain’t stupid he knows exactly what mal and Rory gripe is but joe being the asshole he is don’t want to apologize without justifying his actions he already made his mind up about Rory
Facts
Agreed, but I agree with Joe. Ain’t none of us can leave our job and still have it after 6 weeks.
@@stevenbritton6288 Don't let Joe of the hook with that dumbass comparison. These dudes don't have a normal job. Same thing with Kyrie on the Nets. Bro took days off and nobody could even get in contact with him. And he was welcome back with open arms lol
they don't have a regular job lol
Perfectly put
Ish and ice should at least be a Saturday pod or something, they revived the pod and won't be forgotten
That's a great idea. 1 pod, 2 dimensions
No
Just shut up man
Big facts
Facts
Mal no laughing dead serious and they still don’t get it
Mal asks Joe to look at the situation as friends but Joe replies with ‘you are contracted’. However, when he needs to pull on it he expects Mal to consider their 20 year friendship.
Bruh was thinking the samething .. he referred to the 20 year deep relationshipwith mal then doesnt hold that point when it goes against him . Hypocrisy at its finest
Same dude upset Rory told him they weren’t friends and wanted to scrap 😂😂😂
Narcissism 101
If Im looking at it as friends you should know my dedication to the pod and suck it up and we in contract
@@PrettyRadRamo and then says in a text to Rory "hey man take the next few pods off" like that just SOUNDS like a work suspension lol
All this episode taught me was that Mal values "respect," Rory now sees Joe as only an associate, and Joe refuses to admit what he did wrong.
Sounds about right. I think joe always looked at it like it was his show especially when he changed the name lol. They probably can back because of contracts they signed 🤷🏽♂️. Inside they probably say Fuck this show and joe lol
Joe did nothing wrong Rory got beside himself and now soaking up the reality
@@ringbellz1062 gonna be interesting to see when those contracts are up.
Yep narcissist Joe
@@solocreep9013 no he didn’t joe beside his mf self and everybody see it even ice and ish said he changed
Real friends tell you when you are wrong. Respect to Mal.
Yes
@PINKYRINGMONSTER -3 because they're having an awkward conversation on camera. You wouldn't understand unless you've done it
It would be nice if Joe was wrong. I understand now that all employees think the same. If they would realize they don’t own shit, things would be in the proper place.
Joe is shady AF and time after time this is proven. Beta males and those who lack character like Joe are the only ones who don't see it. Mad respect for Mal. Another REAL person like Crook who finally got tired of Joe's BS. Good on him.
He’s not wrong tho look at joes views and look at there views now ……it’s joes podcast at the end of the day !…..i\all the best luck to map and Rory but they got to hungry respectfully
Damn man rewatching this breaks my heart all over again 💔😣
Rewatching rn so crazy how fast that all went by. Every time they try to fake laugh in the beginning, that niggah mal is not wit it
Same fr, it hurts honestly
I can take you out and make ya feel better ma
@@Shallowwam you making yourself look like a clown bro
@@jahanbaxter it worked though
Lol. Joe really a goof. He really sat and had to think if he owes his friends respect. Everyone should get respect but friends and family deserve a different level.
He said he freely gives respect to strangers 😂. I guarantee you he not getting no strangers to come up there and record a podcast
Friends and business don't mix. This is Joe's business and they are his workers. Friends, but WORKERS. I'm friends with my boss at my job, but he is NOT obligated to tell me every business endeavor that Hilton Hotels tackles. These two BUMS don't know their role and Joe shoulda been blunt with them. When Joe asked that ginger BUM what he owed him, he couldn't answer shit. He was struggling for an answer
@@laphonz well Joe needs to learn to respect his coworkers. Cuz the views have sure dropped since they left 😂😂😂
@@klumsyninja9073 lmao they're replaceable
@@2khandz978 looool
Joe irks my soul, the tongue is a powerful thing, can’t go around saying things to people and expecting no repercussions. Respect to Mal and Rory fr
What did he say that warranted any repercussions?
@@naoufalzouak2422 go back and listen to older episodes lol every time Rory told him “let’s fight” it was a reaction to Joe’s constant unwavering disrespect
Joe is a narcissist. He only cares about himself and doesn’t believe he can make mistakes.
Same Sis! Sameeeee.
@@chaunceyolive8798 he cracked on rory, rory cracked on him... What am I missing? Apart from rory saying flagrant shit on the more sensitive topics of course
Mal was spiiiiittiiiiiinnnn, this is the most real and open he's been on the podcast, I kind of understand why he acts the way he does now.
He's been holding back while shit was going on behind the scenes
I see Mal on everything he said and I clearly see how he moves and what loyalty means to him. I respect it
If Mal cared so much about the podcast, he would've stepped up and said something a while ago. Even Rory said all of the tension wasn't good for the show. Mal keeps talking about principles but principles have to be applied to facts and dealt with as such. F Mal
@@realityshowbinger3153 its friendship first then business especially if the business is ran on friendship
@@realityshowbinger3153 bro you must be 12
After listening to this episode I realized that joe is a whole clown
We knew Joe was a clown years ago when he was on the internet doin line smokin cigs bein a cry baby and shit. Slaughterhouse was raw MC's but here comes joe with all his issues hurting the group
@@LewisSmithJr tf joe was nasty in slaughterhouse
Agreed man. Loved the dude. But this is a stain he won’t be able to wash off. Your (Joe’s) Legacy is to disrespect your friends.
Key takeaways: Mal is a real one and doesn't tolerate disrespect
Rory asks simple questions that results in Joe dancing around and not answering
Joe has a HUGE ego and loves to switch his values when it makes him right... (nothing new)
Nothing real about Mal. That’s joes real boy. Rory is business. We ride on that wrong and work for Rory on the sidelines. We discuss our problems and pod our ass of till we are really well off. I was taught to fight on the lie and we address that shit when we get home.
That’s a word!
@@eliflihi 🎯
Facts
@@eliflihi You was taught wrong then my boy. Mal had a disagreement with Joe and didn't like how he was moving. I don't know who taught yall that loyalty means standing by silently as niggas go against your morals and disrespect you.
Joe's narcissism was on 10 today. Respect to Mal for keeping it 100.
Joe pissed me off
No part of Joe is Loyal, like Mal said fK the money he can’t be friends or work with anyone that does not respect him. PERIODT.
@Stevie Mims Lol if you don’t respect me I don’t want any bag with you respectfully. That money isn’t worth the disrespect, that’s going against your morals aka selling out.
Boy joe was skating a perfect figure 8 to what Mal was saying. To be such an intellect NOW he can’t understand how morals, courtesy and respect works.
You sound almost as weird as mal.
@@jermaineparker1959 you said nothing right then.
@@RealLifeAnimation nothing at all
@@jermaineparker1959 you're weird for this take
Look at Mal this episode, he is beyond done with Joe.
SO WHAT!! 😂😂😂
@@jacorihinton6989 so we goin to new wowy and mal
@@chimschig366 and jbp looks like it’s leaving UA-cam so it looks like its time
@@chimschig366 👋🏾 so this mean y’all wouldn’t waste your important time commenting on videos of his anymore correct?
@@juniortim33 i got time aint no thing.
Mal is my kinda guy. It is hard to find people like this anymore
Real is rare ⚡️
“Real Niggas” is a dying bread. Mal is a damn role model
Everyone needs a friend like Mal
Mal has always been the realest on this podcast, people used to hate on him for the dumbest things
Joe is sensitive and emotional. Rory is emotional but not sensitive. Mal is sensitive but not emotional.
Powerful
Super fact
I like this observation, but how do you define sensitivity
You got it
LOL maybe THAT's why the show works
anyone i see on the comments riding with joe definitely can’t be trusted lol
😈
I'm not riding with Joe. But you most definite can't trust me
Big facts
@@ADG.Est.1988 you got a Twitter nigga? You hilarious bro😂😂
No lie detected
I watched this three times and couldn't find Park's backbone anywhere.
Parks wasn't in the studio with Rory and Mal for years and years. He was there with Joe. Joe is the money maker. Not these 2.
@@gordonshumway6128if BUDDEN was the prize he wouldn't have had other mics on with him there is people who can talk by their self who pull numbers joe don't pull numbers with Joe alone
@@GANGHOONuWuthere’s only one person who talks by himself let’s stop the cap & that guy is in his own league
If you don’t respect ur friends they ain’t ur friends I don’t get how that’s so complicated for joe lmao
Nah fr, he being annoying 😂
That's because JOE is complicated lol
he ain't say he didnt respect em tho. he just said that he doesnt "owe" anybody anythin...
he always been like this... imo... from the outside looking in, he is a str8 narcissist but it is his podcast! that's facts! they think it's fun, but 4 joe it's more than that! 4 Joe it's his legacy. this only works out if they realize this is Joe show or he backs off and starts looking at it like Mal... but I knew they had issues when Joe went to those million dollar meetings and didn't bring them... actually told them on the show he declined 50mil!!!!! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ I might have asked him to fight 2 lol
True friends can be disrespectful to each other sometimes , but the extents depends on the lifestyle they live. some people best friends are their main enemies lol
Hov probably doesn’t even remember saying So What to Joe and he has referenced this moment atleast 50 different times as if it was some deep philosophical thing to say
He dreams about it at night 😂
And it didn’t apply lol
😂 😂 😂 😂 True
LOL!!!
😂😂😂
Shoutout to Ice and Ish for their contribution to the show . They didn’t have to do that for us .
I liked their energy. I certainly don't think that Kevin Samuels episode would have been as good if it were Rory and Mal doing the co-hosting.
Facts cause we all know if it was just Joe and Parks we woulda shut that shit off😂
They still werent better than Mal and Rory 👨🏿🎨
I miss them already. It felt so much lighter. They didn’t have to play a specific archetype. I do wish Joe knew when to stfu no matter who’s on the set.
@@daveylewis816 mal acts too cool to talk sometimes and Rory acts like Peter Rosenberg. They were easily replaced
What happened to all that “Fuck the Suits!” talk Joe was preaching all these years!? Just for him to turn around & treat his “fam” like the Music Industry treated himself. Joe legit turned into the same thing he hates.
He slipped right into a suit lmao. Piece by piece.
He was saying that because he wasn't getting $$$ and the suits was f*cking him over. NOW, he's a suit. And said if you can't beat them, join them.
I felt Mal (especially how he looked) when he said, “when you got real n**** in your corner and real n**** in your life, you gotta... bro! keep them man!” - it’s hard to find real people these days for real!!!
Yeah so dump 'em for the white guy 😭😭😭
@@Mighty_Mighty_D prove that’s what happened
This proves Mal is the only person on this Pod with self respect and not a kiss ass. This made me respect him so much more.
funny cause people used to love calling Mal AND Rory a bunch of Joe yes-men back in the day lol
Nah they were all wrong but rory and mall were pussy for leaving. They should have squared up or just argued until they worked it out. This should have been resolved in 1 week
ITS BUSINESS... that’s why u don’t do BIG BUSINESS with friends... u can’t expect a man to stop how he eat and put food on the table for his family to just hault production for PERSONAL issues
nah. joe just went overboard and really dissed mal in that backyard convo. that`s why he left. joe admited that he shouldnt have said what he said. nobody is a kiss ass. sometimes in fights , you go extra hard on the people you know the most ,thinking that they can take it because of your history.
You wouldn’t expect that from someone that’s not your friend. They record 2-3 times a week, it’s ample time resolve shit but when u dealing with business issues become In reconcilable when friends are involved, due to the personal emotional attachment that not even business related... shudnt have told him it’s non of his business, but niggas still got to eat period
Joe don't know how to admit when he wrong. blaming mal/rory for leaving, but not acknowledging he caused them to leave. classic joe
Fkity Fk Shyt Joseph🧐🤦🏻♀️
No rory been spicy made him tell him leave
Joe really just wanted to tell them: I'm the boss, and whatever I say goes.
THEY ARE BUMS THEY HAVE NOTHING FOR THEMSELVES!!! This is JOES SHOW!!!!!
@@ShakirHolland relax fam, don’t barge in here raising ur voice with that wild ass take 😂 .. they a big part of the success
Man every time I watch this ALL I can think about is how Joe treating them like the HELP..
They ARE the help. They add NOTHING but presence.
They really are the help tho lol. After I watched ish and ice, I realized these guys were definitely overpaid. The fact that they questioning payment and not realizing they work for joe because they “boys” is wild like bruh they left for 6 weeks??? How can you think this is your podcast when you left because of your feelings for 6 weeks lol
@@Blingblow_779 u sir perhaps didn’t see the rebuttal. They were forced.. do your research good brother
@@mztiffanybad I saw the rebuttal but your not getting joes point this is his life if they felt the same they wouldn’t have never left they would’ve showed up regardless. Mal said we should’ve shut everything down? Like they ain’t other people eating off this lol They got in they’re feelings and are entitled lol for 2 dudes that just sit And talk.
@@Blingblow_779 tomato’s tomato’s.... and the way he fired them on air and tried to defame their character... AND threatens them to not go and start their own... yeah OK... you drink sour milk then💅🏽
I think the fundamental flaw is this;
Rory and Mal view the show as "ours"
Joe views the show as "mine"
Edit: also, how you tell someone not to come, and be mad cause they didn't come lol
Which is wild Bc once they got the Spotify deal and Rory and Mals names got in the title it became THEIR show not just Joes
And Joe loved saying it was theirs not his
Joe is the type of person that has to be right even when everyone knows their wrong.
i told my husband this
Joe didn't mean for Rory to take 6 weeks off bruh... he meant take a couple pods to get yur head right. Even Rory knew that he been actin weird, for months. He been stressed out at home. So rory actin like he didn't kno why Joe asked him to take off is corny.
“This show is none of your business”???? Joe you’re wild for that.
If I’m Mal idc if he was mad & regrets saying it the fact that I’ve sat next to you & helped you build this podcast that has made you this “boss” & you even think to disrespect me in that way tells him all he needs to know. Rory & Mal should leave and go team up with Wayno (he just started his own podcast) or somebody else cuz Joe clearly cares about business and his ego more than them so they should treat him the same way.
Joe don’t see them as equals point blank. And I mean as men not even business partners
Real talk
@@bfmikeyrocks the dynamics have changed since he's become the boss... Its the reason they fell out and parks n him haven't... Parks separates business from friendship, Rory n mal haven't, the lines got blurred.
I'd rather have a friend like Mal than Joe. Loyalty & respect are the backbone of a friendship.
Nah mal is a corny guy
@@goldwaffletv 😂
@@goldwaffletv so you want a friend that is selfish and only care for there self and will burn there friends and family to make $1 nahh I’m good 😬
@@goldiesworld2095 He didnt burn them he just lil bro'd both of them. He still cared about them but they are NOT big bro in this situation at all 🤣😂🤣
@@goldwaffletv I'd rather have a corny, loyal friend than a cool, disloyal one.
I literally have a friend that I think is corny a lot of the time, but he did some REAL stand-up shit for me, so I'll always have his back.
Some of us are build different.
"i dont owe my friends respect"-joe budden , pretty much sums all of this up in one sentence
That's a wild statement 🤣 you have to be a "desperate fake boss" type of individual. Or a real piece of shit to believe this
He said he don't own them any more than a stranger. Respect is a gift not a debt owed.
I swear
Nah I agree I grant everyone respect until I’m disrespected no one on this planet is OWED respect that’s something you give or you don’t not one person is owed it
Who with a sane mind says that? Makes me question his upbringing and how his parents raised him. You owe the janitor or a homeless person respect unless they disrespect you first. Joe is a horrible human being.
Mal: “IDC about a bag I can get a bag from anywhere on the planet... some of my closest friends are BROKE! and they’ll do anything for me.” ..aww Mal 🥺❤️
Yeah I felt that one
Mal just built different 💯
Mal is the realest on the pod..
@@k.anthony2399 parks is
Dude built different
Rory looking like the kid that caused a divorce battle between mal and joe lol
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
For once it is the kid's fault 😭
RURY !!!!
Lmao
😂😂😂 best comment I’ve seen
Joe told Rory to stay home, then acts like Rory abandoned the show...
I am only a few minutes in and I was thinking the same thing 🤔
@@dannisdiamonds it gets worse lol
@@Shadowserpant00 yo for real🙄. So is it safe to say this is the last show of the original squad permanently?
@@dannisdiamonds i would totally understand if it is. Joe is a terrible friend
if someone comes in angry every episode and attempts to start fights with you... that person needs time away to get their shit together. there is nothing wrong with recognizing and implementing that.
The ENTIRE time at the beginning of this pod when Mal is talking he is referring to Joe’s character as a person💪🏽 Talk yo ISH Mal🙏🏽
That’s why he had to go , you either ok with everything and we back to work or you can leave 🤷🏽♂️
@@melmedia1499 I had to WAIT to reply to you..... boy what a difference TIME makes.... NUMBERS DONT LIE💅🏽💋
@@melmedia1499 leave and get the 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
@@mztiffanybad this ain’t the flex you thought it’d be 🌚
@@andrewwright5408 it really was though 👀😆
Joe is wild lmao. No way he really thinks he doesn't owe his FRIENDS respect. Like that don't even sound right. Just say you was wrong
It’s different 😂
But hes such a narcissist....he can never admit that.
It's the word "owe" that he keeps focusing on
@@mrspgrew Facts
@@mrspgrew for real he even pulled out the "entitlement" card like calm down my guy