Riding Every Single Axis Spitfire Foil
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2023
- I've spent the last few months trying to collate some footage on each size axis spitfire foil
I pretty much got onto all of them multiple times.
Most of my good footage is on the 900 and the 1100 because they're the two pre production models I had for months.
It's hard to discuss foils without videos dragging on a bit so rather than use this edit to do that I'll be discussing the wings in depth on my new Podcast Called "Another Foiling Podcast" with Josh Lean.
Let other viewers know what wing you've tried or would like to try and get involved - get your hands on a demo.
I am a huge fan of these foils and wouldn't be riding them so much if I wasn't. One of the downsides of being an Axis team rider is people stop trusting you or they doubt that you're completely honest. I strive to remain in my own lane and remain honest in my feedback.
Hope you enjoy :) - Спорт
Great work Dave, your "on water" skills plus dedication to producing useful video content like this is very much appreciated. Many thanks!
Thanks Mr Litespeed :)
Hi Dave. Living in Bali. 2-4ft green water takes offs. Old foils PNG910 and HPS930, black ultrashort fuse 375p stab, 820 HM mast. New (4 months) 900 Spitty same combo. New 840 Spitty for bigger days. Best front foil IMO as I have tried virtually all the other Axis foils. Not so much into pumping and linking yet. Surfed for 40 years, foiling now for 1 years. 55yo, 94kgs. Gonna get the 1030 or 1100 spitty for some pumping practise. Frothing
Wowsa .. you crushed this.. slick moves on the various foils Dave. Dang that Axis setup looks amazing 1030!!. Spitfire indeed..
Dave - great to see your progression as a foiler. Good on you!
Nice video, it is well explained and clear with the grades. I can't wait for the other art pro sizes to be released!
Slick video Dave! Very useful
Great and informative video Dave. Thanks
Thanks Dave, this made decisions so easy🤙🏽. Wow🔥
Thanks for the info. Love the vid, very smooth.
Such a great video man, cheers
Dave!!! You’ve gotten really good. Very impressed. My 8x21 will be completed in days!!
Thanks Henry! Sultan I’m assuming?
Great video mate. Sums up my thoughts too. Love the 900 and 1030.
Dreamboat!
Epic clips! Seems you’re the only foiler at your spot! Surfers must be jealous seeing you ripping!
Didn’t get what fuselage you are using… the 600mm is the crazy short right?
Good job. Nice video and thoughts. I’ve tried them all now also in a range of disciplines.
Interesting I like the 900 and 1030 also to hit a bunch of areas and I have and love the 1201 for DW and small clean surf and light wind winging hack.
I really enjoyed the 840 and 900 with 300p tail and 325p tail. So smooth and buttery. I’m Crazy short for everything and 362/50 skinny to get a bit more speed and glide. I’m 81 kg 185cm
Thanks for sharing. I'm considering a very similar setup. The fuse is the main thing I really can't estimate. I'm a winger and love carving / cruising and had a short fuse in mind. Maybe I should go for one or two steps smaller. Any suggestions?
Awesome, timely video. Being 95kg and on Axis myself- your reviews are freaking invaluable and hard to come by in a sea of 80kg riders. Really appreciate you putting these out.
I just got the 900 last week and have had it out w/ the wing and am absolutely loving it. Can't wait to prone it.
I just began my DW struggle this week on a 8' 21" 111L Barracuda. I flat water paddled it to see if I could stand on it- went fine. Know open ocean will be a challenge. Today I winged on it w/ a 1300 I just picked up to try to figure out the rig. Up in a whisper of wind w/ a 4m wing, flagged out... glide for days on knee high wind swell, but good gawd I freaking haaaated the brutal turning. Like a runaway freight train. I dunno about trying to DW that thing... hoping... what are your thoughts on 1100SF for learning DW?
So good to see, cheers.
Awesome, thanks Dave for all the effort you put in. Great filming and amazing riding.
So stoked to try these SF wings, looking forward to listeining to ep1 of your new podcast. 🤙
If you could only have one HiMod carbon mast, and wanted to do several disiplines, like winging, wave riding, jumping, pumping and downwinding,
would you choose the 90cm or the 82cm? Btw. isnt the 60 advanced fuse called Crazy short, or have I mixed up something?
Awesome video. Love the footage, can really see the difference in effort when pumping the different sizes and the responsiveness in turning. That 780 is wheeoooowie 💣 💥 ❤😂
Sooo fun for towing. Might have to try it on the foildrive.
@@davewestfoilsI've tried the 780 with the foil drive and if there's any headwind the foil drive struggles to keep everything flying.
@@davewestfoils will need a bit of a push from a wave to get on foil but could work well in the right conditions
Epic cheers mate!
great video Dave! I bet this one took a lot of time to film and edit. Definitley going to get a spitfire in the near future, my BSC 890 will do for now.
Months of filming !!! Thanks for watching. I appreciate it :)
Sweet upload dave, thanks for the help with all things foiling and getting me pumped for the upcoming season over here in WA. How are you liking the new Sultan wing board, I am guessing the 6,4 95ltr one for your size. What length cable did you need on your foil drive to mount the box up the front like that ??
Yeah nice work Dav , the spitfire looks more forgiving across the range ? I’m 80kg who’s riding more now than falling uncontrollably 😂 can pump on the wave but only a couple of the back, started on PNG 910 now on ART 1099, Advanced crazy short fuse , 375/64 rear.
Just looking to ride more and be consistent. Would Spitfire 900 be helpful or painful In Your Opinion 🙏 😜 will tune into podcast next week .
A big "Thumbs Up" for me video, great to see the whole range in use, I only wing and use the HPS series, 1050/880.....Uff could easily swap them out for a Spitfire combo. 1100/900 🤔
Great you kept alot of variables the same. It would be helpful also to give the position in the Mast track (ie. cm from Stern). I know it can be based on personal preference, rider weight, conditions, etc. but it serves as a starting point for the 'average' Foiler
That's good you were consistent with the fuselage and stabiliser across the range to get a proper feeling of each one. Somewhat surprised you used the biggest skinny though (besides the DW sessions). Does the 365 pump well ?
About a year ago in a video you talked about breaching wing tips with the art foils.
You have ofc improved your skills since then, but do you feel these SF wings breach better, or did you just figure out a way to stay lower on your mast to avoid breaches?
Or something else magical that your viewers could learn from. Love the riding, filming and editing!
been using the 900 for bigger days and winging. the 900 sp doesn't seem to like my downwind board, I think its to heavy. the 1030 works better for SUP. I used the 1030 on a downwind and works perfect in the windier days
Great video, is there a link to the podcast?
That was a very good job pumping the 780 I am struggling to pump it for any meaningful period of time at 85 kg. The 900 I love because it's easy to pump I don't understand why you also like the 1030 when the 900 is already easy to pump. Is the 1030 for very small days, where the wave isnt strong enough to pop up on the 900?
Another great video.. Just have a couple of questions re 1030 vs. 1100. As you went up in sizes the carve and speed scores understandably went down, but between the 1030 and 1100 there was no difference in carve score and the 1100 scored better in speed. What would be the reason for this? Not trying to be nit picky - just trying to understand as I'm very new to all of this. Cheers.
Good info in the vid man. Thanks for that!
I'm 78kg and have been winging the HPS880 in anything stronger than 12knots. Which spitfire would you say would be a replacement for me? The 900 or 840?
I'm looking for something more playful to wing with and to give a go at proning (beginner prone foiler).
Thanks mate
Just listened to your podcast with Josh… 6 months late.
Two comments, ok three. Josh sounds like UK uber guitarist Chris Buck. I’m friends with SoCal Dave Fruta Axis’ demo guy and finally I will tap him for big Spitfire wings but I hope to use second hand fuse/gear (ok?) and i had to laugh when you said “as we’re getting older I’m 33”. You have no idea. I’m 72.
Crazy riding there and great music. Can you name the 2 Songs?
Greetz
Thanx Dave, great across the board breakdown.. would you say the pump-factor/wing-size is directly related to each riders weight? You have a good range of boards also, what is your ideal litres for paddle-in to get started with your 85kg?
100% riders weight. The whole video is through the perspective of my weight and ability. Everyone has to figure out that for themselves :) I’m 95kg. 40L is my favourite prone board volume.
What a great video. Made me decide for the 1030. By the way, when you say short advance + fuselage 60. Is it the 700mm one? Thankw
Yup. Correct.
Hi Dave
Thanks for all your vids and posts. Mega helpful. Csn you please let me know how you would score the 1050hps against the 1100 for pumping/linking?
I've heard it turns better?
TBH I've never used the 1050 so I can't comment. Maybe try the Axis Facebook group?
The bigger ones look fun. Doesn't look like you lose much compared to the 840. Any word on smaller sizes for towing? 👀
Not sure!
Great video and like the show don't tell approach.
I weigh 75kg and looking for two wings to use with a foil drive, one for downwinding, pumping and one for surfing.
What would you recommend?
Hey jack hard to recommend stuff online. Too many variables. Give the axis foil riders group on fb a post with a vid and people can help there?
I'd buy the 1030 wing if I was buying a foil.
I'm 73 kg and I'm not looking to foil anytime soon tho I'm just not located in right destination for this sport maybe I can try Mixed Matial Arts and make my own videos doing that hey what do u think,
uncle david!
Anyone out there think these would be good wing foils for winging and river wind swell riding?
There's a podcast? What podcast?
Hi Dave, I'm finally about to jump on the Axis train. I'm a 80kg winger and I love mainly carving and cruising. No big tricks or high speed. I've got about 120 hours on the water the past half year. A 2 foil spitfire quiver is what I have in mind: The 900+45skinny for general purpose and the 1100+300p for light wind, the later combined with a 99L DW board. All this on a 90cm alu mast and short fuse. Any thoughts / suggestions, besides go do some test rides?
Hmmm. OTOH - Maybe using a progressive with the 900 and a skinny for the 1100 would be the better choice, as the 1100 is better helped with glide and the 900 with turnination. Choices, choices.
Got the 900 and 1100, 375 stab, ultrashort and 90cm mast yesterday . Had 2 wonderful wing sessions the past 2 days on the 1100 in relatively low wind. Gorgeous foils. Love 'm.
Good test ! . Maybe you could make a similar test on the rear wings ?
I am riding now the 780 spitfire and are not really sure if the progression or skinny t
Are the better choice.
Thanks from Norway
I can tell you I won’t be doing one on rest wings :) not something that excites me that much :)
@@davewestfoils okay :) . But what is your to go size . Maybe a. Tip . Thanks
@@stanleyg.4063 I’m on the 365 skinny 100% of the time.
Hi Dave, cheers from the other side of the globe here in Buenos Aires :) I really enjoyed the video and the podcast as well!! I am only winging, using the art999 and looking for some more carving capabilities in small wind bumps, where the art is a little stiff I would say, but it works well when pumping to connect them. I weight 80 Kilos, so, what spitfire would you recommend ? I also have the PNG910b, which works a little better for carving but I understand the Spitfires would be the ones to go for. Also, once a year I go to Pacasmayo Peru, were we have nice swell, similar than the one you are winging in the video using the spirfire 900, so I guess it would work well also for that. Thanks!
900 for the win
I too was on the ART999 for a full season, and then went to the Spitfire 900, and WOW WOW WOW. That has been my go-to for the last year. Haven't even touched the ART999 since my first time putting on the Spitfire 900. @@davewestfoils
Love the riding demos idea but have to laugh at another video trying to help us consumers understand the wing however using the advanced+ fuse and the short length that arent available online or instore for us. 😅
You know I don’t ‘have’ to make these videos. Axis doesn’t ask me to nor do they expect me to. I don’t make any money and I give back most of the wings after using them. I make these of my volition to “try” and be helpful especially for heavier riders. This is months of work and filming to try and be helpful. But apparently it’s all useless because it’s the wrong fuse. Can’t win sometimes.
I'd probably look past the fuse. It's personal preference as to what fuse each rider likes. The primary factor in how a foil performs is the front wing anyways. The rest is tuning on feel. I'm an adv ultrashort guy. The SF goes great with it.
It's easy to over think, best to try. I think Dave has done a great job at giving an insight into the full range.
@@davewestfoils sorry you are right I didn't mean to sound so unappreciative, it is a beautiful video. I must be in a mood today. Ive already bought a spitfire and love it. I think deep down i want to see the riding the gear i have is capable of, and in my mind only have my skill to hold me back from achieving that.. I.e stop thinking about gear.. to sit happy with it for a moment before the thought creeps in that I'm missing out on the next product is marketed to be gamechanging. Well I can already see it coming now haha. Also I was excited to see the pump in this video and I feel that is very fuse related.
Did you try the 900 with the Skinny 362/50? I've got a SF900 on order and debating whether I should get the 362 or 365 Skinny. Same weight and winging only. I lean towards the 362
No sorry. Hard enough trying all the front wings as it is :)
In my opinion the Progressive 350 or 375 matches the 900 better than the skinnys. I have the 45 and the progrssive seems to match the turnability better. JMHO
That's a point I had not considered. Thanks! @@jbroemmel9331
I winged on the 900 & 1100 today, didn’t really like them compered to my hps 880 & 899. Think there more a prone orientated wing.
I love my 880 for winging in the surf, how does the 900SF compare? Cheers🤙
Going out on a limb there… that’s what they’re designed for and marketed as. I just got a spitfire for wing foiling in waves.
Hi Dave, any update from your spitfire experience? At 72kg i’m thinking the 780 may be big enough for pumping back out.
Hey mate, I’m same weight and was tossing up the 780/840 and bought the 840 having been riding 880 HPS.. I’m glad I went 840, while it pumps well and at a lot faster rate it still needs a fair bit of cardio to go 2-4x1s, I reckon I’d have struggled getting a 2 x 1 on the 780 .. in saying that the 840 it turns amazing, just rolls intuitively and I felt I could put it anywhere I wanted especially pumping out and doing down carves back into the next wave ( which is my favourite part of foiling!)
Can't find the podcast anywhere mate???
Sorry hasn't launched yet. :) Wednesday or Thursday it'll be up. I'll announce on IG and YT :)
Why such a long fuse and fairly active tail? They will obviously be more lively with less, and stable enough? You must be liking the pitch control fairly locked in?
I’m a huge fan of longer fuses now. Allows me push harder through turns without wasting energy on pitch control IMO. I talk about this I’m detail on the podcast in fact.
@@davewestfoilswhat are your thoughts about going with a shorter fuse for a bigger wing and a longer fuse for a smaller Wing?
@@apricotscrub I’d use the longer fuse on all my wings.
@@davewestfoils how much does the longer fuse help with pump? Suppose it's harder to recover height?
@@davewestfoils is it the "short adv+ fuse" or ultrashort adv+?
I can't find the podcast. Do you have the link ?
podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/whesty01/episodes/Jon-Mann-The-Dutch-Sensation-e2d521s
All those poor surfers with their outmoded tech
what board are them? could you share the board you use it in prone surf