Amon's Wasted Potential in Tokyo Ghoul: Re
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2018
- Amon's Wasted Potential in Tokyo Ghoul: Re
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So I dropped the title of this conversation series (Dear Tokyo Ghoul: Re). *WHO OR WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT NEXT, TELL ME RIGHT NOW CHIEF*
love you.
Yomo and Uta. Love you too
Juuzou. I could make a 10 minute PowerPoint presentation about how he was very underestimated by like most everyone, and how if you think hes not as impressive as Arima, you're wrong. I haven't figured out how to use this for something constructive. but man it makes me mad when people downplay him.
Juuzou should really get some love because people constantly downplay him and think he’s only there to be cool and have a replacement for Arima While “he is in no way as strong as Arima.” If not that Yomo and Uta really deserve a video after the anticlimactic fight at the end of TG:Re
i got you.
Actually I was thinking the same thing about hide I thought that he was supposed to be a stereotypical guy who s friend of the shy protagonist tho in the end he remained a stereotype and I'm sad about it
Amon is my favorite character out of the whole series.
Same
Mines Arima but Amon was my second
Same
I thought Ishida was going to give amon and akira a light novel explaining what happend to them in the end...but I guess not?
I wish Amon had more room to grow. I liked his character and then when he came back in the story I was happy. He isn't an asshole like other CCG ppl but he cares about humans and ghouls.
Eto, Amon and Yoshimura were incredibly wasted in Tokyo Ghoul:re considering how important they are to the franchise.
I was really dissapinted with all three, especially Yoshimura. He was an important charcter in the first part, but what happened to him during Re? I know he was taken by Aogiri Tree and was left in bad state. He was hardly mentioned. It made me sad.
Tatara and rize were were also wasted aswell and arima
@@celestialbunny Fully agreed.
@@butterflyxnqssa6796 Yep they were used as plot devices. Massive wasted potential.
to say Yoshimura is a wasted potential is like saying arata is a wasted potential, these two were very important characters, and were major keys to in Tokyo Ghoul world, and heavily influenced CCG and Kaneki especially when he gone mad (further more they served him as a guide in OEK and Black Reaper personality).
also they gave more reason to show how cruel and intimidating Arima is, and Eto were never a wasted character, hell she had a happy ending.
what I would call a wasted character is Tatara and Shinohara, wasted for the plot probably, even Yomo that barely shows had a better character.
I wish Ishida enjoyed making his story because if he did I think he would've taken his time and reached a proper conclusion
I wanted to see Amon in a crisis like Kaneki or Takizawa when they became ghouls. Amon just came back in the story as a ghoul like nothing happened. His ideals as a ghoul are almost the same as they were as a human. I was disappointed.
Talk about miss Eto.
6:39 When you see the fight of Donato vs Kuki Urie, Sui gives us the fight of Urie's father vs Donato when he captured him; there is a panel of Donato when he was handcuffed showing worry about Amon saying his name in his mind. This is the only pillar if you will for the emotional outbreak of Donato.
That title is a big mood. This video was my thoughts exactly.... lol.
Talk about Kurona next?
Tokyo ghoul: re wasted potencial just makes me sad
TG Re was one of the best manga I have ever read but the ending just makes it so hard to love and remember it. I barely remember what happened at the end and I hope to god the series will get revived one day
Amon could have been greatness yet he decided against it, he was striving to rekindle his relationship with Mado and trying to understand his unique relationship with Donato and the type of Justice he believed in... Practically, he had great potential, as did many others in this series!
Lots of wasted potential in TG re 😔
Yeah I know.
I think I heard Ishida had a different plan for the series, but he got tired of writing so he rushed it in order to end the series as soon as possible.
Basically he got bored and didn't want to write anymore so he rushed the ending.
At least he ended it on his own terms, and I respect that.
Squilliam Barnacles yea true It just sucks that I was getting into the manga when he started to rush the ending. I do respect him for ending it tho. Kaneki deserved a happy ending
@@unlimitedperseverance1706 Emm, nope, that is not the reason.
Ishida was ill, and he decided to rush the ending instead of doing a hiatus, he was ill of the work, not of TG.
You can found this on his final letter.
Ah! This vid was on point. Literally everything you said was what I was thinking. Really disappointed that Ishida didn't play more into his character since he was one of the very few characters that had a strong sense of justice to wanting to protect humans. He was just not relevant in :Re sadly, his ideals were one of his best qualities and were one of the strongest in the whole franchise. It was unique compared to all the other characters. And I also agree with the fact that his RC count was the highest from all the ghouls, even surpassing Takizawa whom was also known as one of the higher RC counted ghouls.
- Though Takizawa had a bit more screen time than Amon, I feel as if his character's 'conclusion' was inconclusive as well. We never did get a proper reunion with Akira and Takizawa after the CCG Lab Raid.
- Then we have Uta...whom was supposedly suppose hinted to be the original OEK.
- And the whole Clown Organization was just blown over just like V.
- Then we have the Yoshimura's (both Kuzen and Eto) whom were just put on the back burner with no explanation if they were dead or alive after their last appearances. Kuzen especially...since he played a huge role in Kaneki's life in the first series. He was sorta like a dad to Kaneki in a way, whom was guiding him through the ghoul world.
A lot of missed potential on many characters that we will never get to see or get answers from.
But anyway, great video dude! Keep it up.
Also what the heck was up with Eto Yoshimura? Ishida hyped up her character since the beginning and made it seem like she was so important but in the end it turned out she was insignificant and died in a stupid way.
Also I'm not even sure whether or not she really died so there's a possibility she just disappeared from the story...
And what about Kuzen Yoshimura?
They literally never explained what happened to him.
He was one of the main characters!
I swore i thought there was a conversation between Shachi and Yomo discussing that Yoshimura was in the state Rize was in. I read it again, but the actual conversation didn't go like that. I'm pretty sure. Don't really remember even though i tried to finish a second time last year.
It was incredibly disappointing what happened to Kuzen Yoshimura. He really deserved better. He tried to live a peaceful life and get's taken by Eto so Kanou could use him for experiments. I also didn't like how the Anteiku gang mentioned him like once.
I feel like Amon as a character didnt want to grow as a ghoul. maybe he didnt want that or felt he could surpass his limits without it.
Amon was a good Christian boi!
Number one jobber of the series.Just compare him to takizawa and you will see how far he has fallen in re. Takizawa turned from a nobody in the original to a great character with awesome development in re, while amon turned from deuteragonist in the original to a nobody in re.Even his only moment (win against donato) was just meh,because he was already so wasted that no one gave a shit about this fight anymore. Truly wasted character.
yeah but at least he got that final fight with donato to give him some closure
love this amon representation
Also btw, Amon is my second favorite character in Tokyo Ghoul, I simply like everything about him.
I really like that Kaneki didn't succeed as the OEK. Why ?
Nietzsche classified people as
1. The High Man
2. The Middle Man
3. The Slave
Kaneki like Guts is a middle man. I loved his character as such and could relate to him. But if his status would have been elevated to the High man. That would be obviously make him more admirable but also less relatable kinda what is happening with Griffith right now.
Tbh I thought Amon would’ve destroy takizawa
When I finished TG I honestly liked Amon as a character and all but when I read TG:RE it felt like he was just left in the shadows. It felt like he was brought for the sole purpose of killing Donato. Before I read TG:RE I thought that Amon would play a bigger role than that. He had a lot of wasted potential and felt like just another basic half-ghoul. His fighting style with the Dojima was interesting and rather unique. It showed at how well he mastered his Kagune. I thought that he would get turned into a half-ghoul and join GOAT to bring peace between ghouls and humans.
These are just my thoughts and opinions.
THAANK YOUU! Wholeheartedly agree
The only thing I don't like about Re is the wasted potential on so many characters and organizations like V
Takizawa is my favorite character
Amon, Tatara, Donato, 0 squad, Furuta, Rize, Dr.Kanou, Uta, Itori, The Owl, V... all wasted potential to be honest. TG re lasted more and Ishida still ruined the story and the pacing by introducing bullshit things that at the end were useless because he didn't even explain them
He didnt want to do the franchise anymore. I've said many times TG RE should've ended after kaneki beat arima and have PT3 start shortly after the events of that
@@darthmisogyny3828 I always thought that the clown raid, the quinx owls (kanous owls that we see at Rue Island), the oggai squad and the 24th ward arc were shitty arcs/introductions/concepts. Oh and the dragon arc also. The good TG RE writing ended on the arima death. Also Rue Island didn't end that well. Things there started to be strange like the new owls that we see once, the torso death that we didn't actually see and more importantly the tatara, takizawa and amon fight wich felt like a clusterfuck of nonsense. In my opinion Tatara should have winned and Akira needed to be saved by Amon. Takizawa should have fight with Tatara cuz Tatara didn't relly do shit to him. Tatara only captured him because he was a weak ass character from part one. Also Koma, Irimi, Tsukiyama and Nishio were on the island I think that Ishida missed the opportunity to SAVE YOSHIMURA KUZEN by having those characters to find him on the labs of kanou with kimi and bringing them back on the story but NOPE
@@IlNamelessKinglI it suffered from what I call the bigger badder sequal stigma. I forgot about all those arcs but maybe that was the problem. They weren't that great to begin with and was unneeded and lasted way to long.
@@darthmisogyny3828 here's the thing. He added a lot of charcacters, concepts, abilitys, arcs and random things but in the end he lost it all. I feel like after the arima death he didn't know what to do so he made practically a random character the new big villain by also ending Aogiri tree (Furuta...). I feel like that on Rue Island all the aogiri ghouls should have died besides Takizawa and Tatara. While the Quinx, Suzuya squad and Akira were the only surviving CCG members. Akira is with Houji fighting Tatara and Takizawa with maybe some other cool investigator like UI, they loose, only akira and Ui remain, Bat mon (Amon) saves them and they quickly leave. Then Takizawa realizes that no one of the Aogiri Tree is left besides Him and Tatara so he kills him because he is a motafucka. Quinx are trying to rescue mutsuki and the suzuya squad needs to return back because Kurona destroys their quinques. Then we see our OG character from Part One (Koma, Irimi, Nishio, Tsukiyama) go to the island to kanous labs and save Old man Yoshimura BUT they encounter Kurona wich is on Kanous lab and they need to kill all those motherfucking quinx owls while kanou escapes. Or maybe kurona kills kanou and the other characters take Yoshimura...then all the bullshits like Oggais and Clowns don't even exist.
@@darthmisogyny3828 TG:re was a step in the right direction but the path forged was wobbly. As a weekly mangaka I think Ishida did the best he could.
Looking at Ajin and AOT and seeing how well thought out they are makes me sad about TG, respect Ishida more and question him was it really necessary for it to be weekly. I really want to know why couldn't the same thing as Gintama be done with TG.
THANK YOU!! Maybe now analyse Akira and Eto after this? Or perhaps even Old Man Yoshimura?
Perhaps even talk about the fact that Ishida clearly intended to make UTA the OEK, but then decided to quickly wrap up the story and let all the good guys live?
Sam Mertens wait he did ima anime watcher I’m sorry
So there’s no one eyed king at the end then
How can Uta be the OEK when he isn't even a one eyed ghoul
Was i the only one who hoped that Tatara would fight Special Investigator Hoji for a final Battle WITHOUT getting interrupted by Takizawa.
A fantastic video, I agree with you and I would much rather prefer the story you would have laid out for him. He is definitely immediately and interesting character and it is a shame that he wasn’t played upon more, especially later on
I wanted to know more about Roma tbh. She was like a quick burst of flavour in the soup. Ishida gave us a bit of backstory yeah, but I crave more. MORE
Trash Pepperoni
She is a triple S rank ghoul
Owl level
So I agree we need more fucking backstory
Characters like Roma always interest me. The Clowns as a whole too. I wish a lot of the Clowns were developed more. Such as Romo, Itori, and Uta.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks like this.
Amon's wasted potential is more of a disappointment than TG:re
Can we all agree that Tokyo Ghoul was a masterpiece? Like if it ended with Kaneki getting killed by Arima I would’ve been cool with it.
Great vid dog
I wanna know something, what does Amon eat after he becomes a ghoul?
Since he hates the idea of ghouls eating humans, what does he eat?
Artificial one eyed ghouls can't eat human food as natural one eyed ghouls can, and since he's partnered with Akira, would Akira agree with Amon eating human flesh?
Amon isn’t a simp a True chad until he become a ghoul
Lmao that thumbnail though
I honestly thought Amon was Arima for awhile. But I wish Amon was used better as another detective that can see the ghoul's side through maybe his rivlarly but w/e they probably thought, "He's human, he wont keep up we need a character that's way more OP, enter Amon"
I wanted to know more about the nutcracker, she's one of my favorite characters
speaking of eto in the end what the hell happened..... how did she get her head back?
Talk about Kuzen next! I feel like they did him dirty.
3:13 bro couldnt just say “he kept his humanity”
I watched the anime to start and since I've started to read the manga. at this point I'm on chapter 62 and to be honest whilst reading, i follow it along in my mind with the anime. i find that i cant really find a lot of details missed out. sure there are missing scenes but to the extent that considering "the characters aren't what they are in the manga" or "Its a completely different story disrespecting Ishida's work" is a bit far. sure the anime is different and doesn't have everything but i don't think it should be shut down as much as it is.
Secondly as stated in my first 3 sentences i feel like i might've missed some important details. could anybody give me some small details i may have missed whilst reading to enrich my experience, id really appreciate it! things like key character characteristics and character development etc :)
I know there's a lot (really A LOT!!) of wasted potential in :re but I don't care at all.
I really love the series the way it is. If Ishida-san is ok with it and that's the way it wanted to be then, it's fine by me.
I say this because it's a serie that I won't be able to forget so easily; it's carved so deeply within my heart that the only thing I have to say is that I'm grateful for have read such an amazing manga.
I felt so many emotions reading it, I also learned a lot of things that I didn't even notice the mistakes made by the author.
I know it's not a perfect series or maybe one of the best ones but for me it is the best one.
P.D. If you read it till the end, thank you so much :D
I know my comment it's a bit long but I had to say it. Hehe
I can describe anything that happens after Kaneki is first captured as "wasted potential"
I miss TG.re
Takizawa analysis vid.
pls
Yes i want it so bad
Me too bro
And Sub-Zero "Kuai Liang" said he has wasted potential on Frost
Does everyone forget the writer literally stopped caring about the series so rushed it
I was ok with what they did with amon killing the priest
the fact amon (my favorite character) got fucked over made me mad
I got bashed on Twitter for calling people's favorite characters plot devices. But any character by definition is a plot device.
A story is interesting as long as people don't realize this very fact, i.e., as long as those characters feel like real people.
I can't exactly point out why but in the last arc every character except Kaneki felt like a plot device to me.
But for me the story has always been about Kaneki. And since I cared about Kaneki the most. I love his character arc.
dont even want to watch the vid when i see that video
New episode is out
@dresrosa Also I always thought the characters were dumb. If I was a mad ghoul who gives shit bout morality (like takizawa and such) and I had to fight a big battle I would have killed a random human and torn him apart then putted him in a backpack and when needed I would have picked something from the bag and eat when I was down in stamina or RC if I was wounded. Obviusly against the fastest enemies like Arima I would take a rest by escaping on a safe zones or just leave because they most likely wouldn't allow me to eat if I was getting shit on. Like... any ghoul thought a thing like that in the series. Ghouls are stronger then a normal human so the weight isn't a factor... no ghoul has ever brought food into battle wich for me is pretty dumb. Also we don't see much of normal police or army if not on the dragon arc were they fucking use tanks and helicopters. If I was a mad ghoul I would have robbed banks and shit because ghouls are immune to normal bullets and guns cuz of their skin...
Recently the anime finished and i read the manga, then i discovered your channel. I like your videos, and on many points i agree, but Tokyo Ghoul as a whole is still one of my favorite manga/anime. Pretty much every anime has plotholes or cliffhangers so i did not expect it to finish as i wanted from the start. I would have probably disliked it if everything was as i expected.
breh the genius that is sui dying while making tg re and tg re still a master piece amon is not the mc kaneki is de big boi in this anime
In fact i hate amon and matsuki
If I may ask, why don't you like Amon and Mutsuki? I don't really like them either, but I was wondering what your reasons were.
I don't get why people hate Mutuski, she is just a white hair Kaneki in re.
but for Amon it's quiet reasonable since he likely disappeared, it would be amazing if he stood against clowns siege instead of CCG like a ba- uhm an owl man and get captured by V instead of Quinx but whatever.
Kaneki should stay as Kuroi no Shinigami , the best kaneki as far as i’ve seen , he’s cold , responsible , and OP for some reason.
ye I totally agree he was the most effective in that state. that should've been final kaneki