Hyundai and Kia Philippines, are you guys watching this?? You need to stop holding back on specs, overpricing your cars, and being complacent on the quality of your aftersales/casa service.
@Shadow Hedgehog because Philippines is used to the "sachet" or "tinge" type of marketing and that explains why our cars specs here are a downgrade as compared to our neighbors. Downgrade the specs to fit the majority of buyers' budget.
@Shadow Hedgehog Yeah, as much as we wanted to but the car sales system here has been like that for so many years. It has become the norm of car dealerships. We can demand so much but it's them the dealers dictate the market.
Same as in Australia. MGs, LDV, Great Wall and Havals are selling reasonably well. Perceptions are changing and more and more people are seeing all of the value and none of the reliability issues.
Throughout my life, I’ve owned only an American & 7 Japanese cars before I tried a Korean car because that was the only brand that offered a small car diesel. In the almost 7 years I’ve owned it, it is running almost 187k kms & hav’nt had any major issues aside from parts that had to be routinely replaced. Very solidly built. All my Japanese ones never reached this mileage & were running very “tired” before they reached 150k with body creaking, alignment & camber issues, loss of power, rusting parts & a host of other issues. I was so impressed & with the savings I got from it, I bought another Korean car, a diesel crossover this time. The only issue in the Philippines with Korean cars now is the bias with the badge (as evidenced by the comment above) & the resale value, both of which I don’t really care about. Korean cars have really come a long way.
Korean car are tested they come a long way and durables also Kia Sportage are competing to Japanese firm I don't know this Chinese car firm can compete the said companies maybe buyers bite them if they run . mileage if not filipino will stick to buy old companies what customers likes was not always having issues of car consulting the mechanic I drive starex Korean made that was good no issues it good I went to cagayan only engine stopped when eating back and port or way back to Angeles city it was past diesel engines no over heating issue it was manual process
thats the problem with the filipino consumers, they tend to be bias towards the japanese brands. when in reality it is best to have lots of choices now, compared to the 90's where you have a limited choices
I hope there will be a strong PH car brand someday. So that we employ more of our fellowmen. Quite idealistic, but may very well benefit our economy. We bought a lot of cars from Japan, look at their progress
Meyrick Principe easy to say but hard to get, as nobody want to give a damn to invest either to R&D, yet all of our engineers been pirated somewhere, or they just easily silencing them once they discover somethin that will jeopardise the industry and system, u know what I mean for sure😉🤗
I agree with that but we need a lot of guts to do it although we have a some filipino engineer and idealistic and experience but we need a lot of funds. But we all know we have some filipino billionaire can do that but they have the big mind or confident to do it so we can create more jobs. and to have a filipino pride to build our own car. Philippine made.
@@percivalaurelio1864 We already manufactured a train but where's the support? Our Filipino pride is kind of misplaced sometimes specially if certain interest comes in.
Philippines should attract foreign investors in vehicles, removing our FDI limit and a better business friendly environment. Even Vietnam developed its cars.
Believe me or not, Sarao and Almazora (some of the many local manufacturers of jeepneys, closed vans, and buses) actually has a very huge potential in becoming a car manufacturer. All they need is financial and technological support.
I honestly think a state funded car manufacturing company would be a great start to entering the large automotive industry. Not only will it creat jobs but also boost the PH economy.
@@mrjppizza6507 sayang nga eh. Imagine if nakakapag export sila Almazora, Columbian and other trucks and bus manufacturer kahit sa SouthEast Asia lang. Laki sana ng matutulong sa economy naten nun. Kaso ginagatasan pa sila sa tax kaya in the end ang mahal ng mga locally made bus and trucks saten kaya majority ng trucking at bus companies puro used Korean and Chinese Bus/truck ang tinatangkilik.
In all honesty... Chinese cars look so good! They also have it all... I just wish japanese cars will do their upgrades and make their cars look good.. i would still choose toyota any day for its being reliable and easy to maintain reputation but their Chinese cars are a looker! Japanese manufacturers should really consider this factor or they might experience what happened to the japanese smartphones like sony and sharp... Vanished because they're so lazy to innovate (also expensive) and now we are flooded with Chinese phone brands...
@shinkueagle i agree with you.. again i would also choose reliable brands like toyota any day for those exact reason... But japanese brands should step up their game.. i mean its as he mentioned... Some of these chinese brands are actually doing business with some of the most reliable brand that we know... Its like this... european cars are so good looking but so expensive while japanese brands like toyota, suzuki are so reliable but honestly.. they're boring looking and generic however they're so reliable and affordable.. But Chinese cars are good looking cars but also inexpensive... The only thing they'll have to take care is reliablity... This is why im holding myself from getting that geely car and instead opt for a honda or Toyota car... We'll know how they'll be reliable in 5 years time.. again just like my example... Chinese smartphones did not became an overnight superstars... it took some time (xiaomi offering inexpensive phones but feature packed is their main selling piont) we laugh about them even big brands like sony and nokia and blackberry said they're not worried about them... But look at what happened? We are flooded with xiaomi, oppo, huawei, vivo so on and so forth... They're inexpensive but able to perform well and has good warranty service... All im saying is these japanese should really step up their game... China and Chinese products should not be ignored anymore! It might be that these Millennials and so is gen z would prefer better looking stuff in the future...
@shinkueagle i do agree that some of these chinese cars are "imitation" of some luxury cars but thats the thing though... They might be "imitation" looking (as it was also pointed out on this video) but they're waaay cheaper than those luxury cars they try to imitate 😅 also those cars you've mentioned are indeed good looking but i believe these cars are not their competition? Those cars are like "luxury" if you ask me since most of them are on 2-3 million pesos so its not really the chinese cars target market... These chinese cars are again.. inexpensive so youve got to compare them to those price segment as welll right? So the likes of vios, avanza, etc etc... Thats why i gotta say that mg cars are really good looking as well as that geely car.. they're wayy cheaper that their competing counterparts I agree that it is with the beholder on how you define beauty... So people might love it or hate it.. its all up to them!
@shinkueagle true.. i mean that would be enough for us to judge if these cars are not just all looks.. they're also inexpensive and reliable! That's what matter... If they're able to prove that... There's a good chance people would love them!
@shinkueagle i know someone who actually owned a ford mustang and it was involved with an accident with a tricycle... The damage can't be repaired even if the tricycle driver would sell his tryk as it was really expensive... Honestly these luxury cars are nice to see in our streets but the gruesome traffic that we have and our ugly road it is a horror to be involved in a car accident!
@shinkueagle they don't even cause 2M 😅 they're priced in less than a million and thats why they're so attractive to car buyers but still holding back on buying because people wants to get all their money's worth!
You didn't really answer how owning a Chinese really is in terms of reliability and aftersales. You just used a testimonial that a friend of yours trust the guys bringing in the brands. Doesn't really say much about reliability or aftersales.
I wonder how many more Chinese brands would enter if LTO would release their implementing guidelines for electric cars knowing China is leading the race for EVs popularity. Imagine having charging stations on those Chinese casas which might start the electric revolution, if it hasn't started yet.
@@paulmalapit4240 Yes I do. Since Tesla is making them in China soon the China-ASEAN trade deal makes vehicles cheaper so Tesla EVs may just undercut other EV vehicles when the time comes.
I did a walkaround first impressions vlog of the Chery Tiggo 8 Luxury EX on my channel. I have to say, with all the bells and whistles that comes standard, and add to that the awesome warranty coverage offers, It's hard to resist the urge to plunk down for the downpayment. Certainly the Chery and other Chinese brand vehicles have come a long way.
For the owners and buyers we just need to "trust the process" I vividly remember when Kia first came to the Philippines. Parang ganyan din, or should I say, comparable to the first time Geely Nd Chery came to the country. It is like Chery qq is almost the same with the Kia pride
I agree sir. When I watch different review of chery tiggo 8 i was amaze.. comparing other japanese brand in it price, napakalayo ng makikita mo sa loob ng chery tiggo 8. Superb exterior, interior, and a lot of features. And the warranty you said is very nice, it shows how the manufacturer trust the engine they made..wala ka makikita sa ibang car manufacturer na ganun katagal ang warranty na 10 years.
a long term review of these mention vehicles on how many kms they were driven before issues are encountered would ease up consumers anxiety in buying chinese brands.
Give it another 3years . By then we have enough feedback from the general public regarding overall performance, maintenance, reliability and resale value . Though it looks very enticing , I would rather wait for now.
@@HansLotap i'd agree with 5 + years a lot more than 3. even the korean brands took more than a decade to build their reputation in par with japanese brands.
@@markho601 this perception is not really the right words to preach. Value is attained by models not brands really. Not every model units in a brand you can call valuable. Hype, valuable, legendary. We can't say that to every cars even on a well known brand. It
Im not china brand fanatics. But i have 2 china car used for bussines only. Very reasonable price and worthy for practical reasons. They are not good as branded but they serve their purpose. There are lot of parts available in auto suppies like spare parts of suzuki, honda, toyota parts can be used as replacement parts for my 2 china cars.
As a rule of thumb, if you want good quality for cheap, don't buy clones. Buy from companies that design their own phones. Clones spent too much time and effort cutting corners on trying to look like something else whereas an original company aren't limited by these things and can bring you the best product they can possibly make. And always buy branded for items over $100. Branded items have alot more effort put into them for their reputation.
You might have a slight misconception about what branding is. For example, in cellphones, One+ at some point called chinese clones and were now performing close if not better than the branded stuff you are talking about. Now, they are selling phones at the same price point with Samsung and ppl still buy them. Same with AMD to 'branded' Intel where in fact both have brands its just the other is more established. It's always a leap of faith in the less popular brands. However, MG could be a company (like one+) that is determined to get noticed and established in the market even at the expense of gaining lesser income per unit. If that is the case, many would be regretting now buying when its cheap. If you play in stocks you'd know the feeling. Of course, MG could also be just an inferior product but considering the effort they put and gradual improvements of their cars on the recent years then I'd like to think positively. My only real concern about MG is the alloys they used in the cars might degrade faster the the Japanese cars.
Critical piece missing in this and all other videos: parts availability outside Casa? is it widely available, say someone would keep the car for over a decade? TIA! 🙂
Parts availability for Korean cars outside the casa is not a problem these days. In my experience, Hyundai is transparent with the part numbers of parts needing replacement.
Sad to say, cars now r designed not to last more than 10 or 15yrs. Even European n Japanese cars have also reliability issues n recalls. Pls research on it.
I shifted to MG RX5 from Innova and I can honestly say RX5 feels much better than Innova. I also own a Terra. But the MG RX5 was a huge surprise. Very, very high-quality vehicle. Best of the best!
Chinese cars, just like the China branded mobile phones is catching up fast or already are at par with the premium brands. Now that information and technology can easily be replicated, Chinese carmaker can already make quality and durable cars for less. They may even give better value than your leading car makers. Think of of how xiaomi, Huawei, etc has caught up with Apple and Samsung. Maybe an exact parallel to what has happened to the mobile phone industry is happening now in the car industry.
Yap, b4 nokia,blackberry, or big names like Sony, Samsung,n iphone but look at now, huawie a glorified chinese brand, are scaring then away with feature and advancement..
Yap mainland Chinese here prefer iPhones. Status symbol when they bring it back to China that they're rich. They cannot do it with China brand cellphone
Thanka for the video sir! It opens up oppurtunities for big Philippine corporations to invest more on automotive (better if EV or Automated). Love listening to buisness perspectives
Maganda sana pero sa tingin ko problema pa rin sa parts availability at technical support pag may nasira. Take for example the Geely Coolray. It's price is very enticing as it is loaded with a lot of high-tech features. Pero paano kung may masira dun, may enough qualified technicians ba? Yan ang concern ng buyers sa ngayon pagdating sa mga bagong brands dito sa atin.
wonderboykun meaning electronics? Its all systems go prin nman depende cguro sa paggamit mo, for sure, if u hate chinese brand, u’ll do everything to find “butas” to them, just to prove they are not worth the salt😉🤗
@@MrEdron4ever I don't know why it has to go down to hate. What I stated are legit concerns for most if not all car buyers. I own a top of the line Mitsubishi vehicle with all the bells and whistles that you don't get on the lower variants. Although Mitsubishi has dealerships all across the country, I still experience delay of service kasi limited lang technicians nila pagdating sa electronics. Mas mabuti pa nga mechanical ang masira, huwag lang electronics. Mahal na pyesa, mahirap pa ayusin with how complex they have become nowadays.
Wala nmn akong nakitang hate sa sinabi ni wonderboykun. Its a fact. I myself loved to have Chinese brand car kasi sulit na sulit. But sa ngayon mapapaisip ka muna tlaga kasi wala nmng bagay ang hindi masisira. 3 to 5 years warranty nga binigay ng mga Chinese car kaso available kaya ang parts kapag nasira? Kasi kung hindi baka sa casa matutulog ng matagal ang kotse mo
Chinese cars looks good on paper. What we are concerned is it's reliability/longevity. only time will answer the reliability concerns. its good now as it is still new but what happens after 3 years or 100k kms. ? for now, it is still very challenging to recommend.
Chery tiggo 8 10years warranty or 1m km. Sa engine then 5years sa general parts and free sa periodic maintenance services for 3years...high tech at luxury and interior
Maganda yan bagong competition tayong consumer ang panalo dyan. Mukhang maganda nga yung geely coolray. Mula nung nakita ko yung nagmukhang lowtech lahat ng american, japanese at korean car sa pinas 😂
Geely and BYD are EU and Japanese technologies incorporated.So these cars brands can last a long times as Japanese and Europeans car manufacturers brands.
Hi Kako I think it would be best to make another same topic video about Chinese cars now that they have dominated the market even more. I just got my tiggo8 pro and my experience is superb. I tested all suv brands before buying and considerered all warranties specs and reviews before buying em and never regretted it.
Automotive Engineer here. TLDR, You bought hot garbage. Long version: Chinese certifications such as 16949 and 26262 are papermill at best than its overseas counterparts. Foreign brands assembled in china adhere to foreign audits and quality standards(I know, I do this audits). Chinese cars ehhh not so much. Safety also raises questions as Chinese cars dont adhere to AIAG requirements. Kung masaya ka naman eh suportahanta ka. Pera mo naman yan.
Actually we need not Chinese brands on our streets with underpriced price tags... Bring in the Europeans on our islands without having to pay twice the price and we're in business Edit: Some dont actually understand what I'm trying to say.... (The 3 series BMW in Europe starts just under P2 million . But here in PH it starts at P3.5 million You have to pay an extra P1.5 million which I think is not just worth it.)
Euros are made to be more expensive, complex and self repair unfriendly. The cheapest Euro brand would probably be Skoda? And even they are expensive compared to the competition. And with the way Chinese cars are developing, it seems likely that the Chinese brands will overtake several of the less innovative competition.
When you choose or want to eat in a fine dining french restaurant then dnt expect to pay like you eating on a food chain then its a problem right?your out of tune...when people try to demand out of your own choice or taste you gotta be willing to pay for the cost,otherwise be contented what on the plate already...your wants of european car, only pave the notion that you want expensive car, coz literally european cars are expensive as it is...not the other way around.
melvin deguit You clearly did not understand what I wanted to say. I know how expensive European Cars are... I was regarding to how more expensive they become when they are sold overseas The 3 series bmw starts at just under 2 million pesos in Europe. But here in the philippines it starts at P3.5 million. Hence, My point. I don't need to read that fine dining restaurant fluff.
Haha u just edited ur original comment, now u add some word, ur original comment only ends in Were in Business...Now More words added....clearly if we try to disect your original comment which it end only when u say Were in Business you clear sound that u want to bring european cars only if it will not cost much or double,thats why ur last two 3 words in your original comments is WERE IN BUSINESS....i do understand your original comment, but the edited once its deferent story already...
Hello Sir, speaking of chinese car brands. Please make a car review also about Changan's Car. I think they have great cars and deals there too. Thank you!
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In the US the best selling car from Buick is Envision and it has the best quality, eventually better built than their American made counterparts and it is made in China.
The Chinese are doing what the Japanese used to do back then when they started building cars. The Japanese used to copy and reverse engineer cars and improved upon European or American designs. One has to start somewhere and clearly the Chinese are putting wayyy more effort on their new cars compared to the Japanese nowadays.
@Don Damien Constantine T. APANIADA You can actually point out which part of my statement is wrong just so we'll know if you really know what you're talking about.
30 years ago, 3 Korean car brands hit Phil shores. To cut the story short, piss on those cars or "I would rather wait for my dad to hand me over his first car (assuming it is not a Korean brand)." At present there are plenty of Korean cars competing with their Japanese counterparts.
Every manufacturer has a distinct specialty. The Japanese make reliable cars, if a bit boring to look at. The Koreans are currently the leaders in Innovation and styling. The Americans engineer great cars and are great at styling them (the Koreans hired a lot of western designers and now their cars look great) The Europeans design amazing interiors, the exteriors can be eclectic sometimes. The Chinese, well, they make good knockoffs of cars. In fact they make such good knockoffs that they were hired to manufacture the real thing now.
@@thetrustysidekick3013 I don't think Koreans hired Westerners but Europeans. They hired a German and a Belgian designer who are both ex-Audi designers. No wonder why modern Hyundais and Kias resemble German cars specifically Audis.
@@mrjppizza6507 Well Kia took some designers from Chrysler, FCA's global head of design even said "you noticed that Kia's and Hyundai's are looking better recently?" alluding to the fact they hired some of his best away from Chrysler. It's on a Netflix documentary here on youtube. It's free too.
Maybe someday our mindset will change. Good example is the smart phone scene. Before we only trust american, korean, and japanese phones. Look at where we are now? We have xiaomi, poco, realmi and too many to mention. I understand that phones are cheaper compared to cars but if we will see the larger picture chinese manufacrurers or brands already up their game when it comes to providing good alternatives to expensive products that are expensive.
@@Ccm2019 did I say someone's dreaming of oppo? Don't take my analogy literally Lol. I'm speaking good alternative here compare to japanese brand cars which are pretty expensive.
I'm eyeing to acquire a huge-ish vehicle within this year. I actually do consider getting a Chinese branded vehicle, specifically the Okavango. Spec/features/capabilities are on point and definitely checks a lot of boxes on my needs. HOWEVER, it is not the "purchasing" part I am afraid of. It's the AFTERSALES. While I do agree that the quality did got a lot better, it's the aftersales support I really am worried about. Esp. not a lot of "thirdparty" or "your go to" shops can handle such vehicles. P.S. I may or may not have contributed a thousand views on your "Montero Vs. Okavango" video. But maaaaan, I'm just so damn torn.
My Japanese car is made in Thailand, so the Mercedes C200 is made in china. It's not a question of where its made but the brand thats in control of the build quality.
One barometer I always employ when buying cars is to ask their parts services on how quickly they can replace a broken windshield. If they say more than a month kasi oorderin pa, sablay na yun. Look elsewhere.
Not really. The brand reputation and reliability comes into play. And no, most Korean cars have better tech, better engines, better drivetrain, better handling. Korean cars also have the brand recognition. Reliability and durability is also what makes Korean cars more known for more than 30 years now. When Hyundai and Kia launched their cars in the US, they were lauded for their reliable and durable cars. Hyundai and Kia leverages Korea’s dominance as a major steelmaking country. I have had 3 Hyundai cars (1998-2016) and currently owns a Kia Stinger GT. None of those cars broke down or had any major issues in the years I owned them which averaged around 6 years. The only issue I had was replacing one of the windshield wipers on my 2005 Hyundai Sonata. Korean cars have gone a long way and are one of the best now. Chinese cars really need to imrpove their marketing and should stop full on copying European, American, Korean, and Japanese cars.
Its easy to form an opinion on a newly built car...The proof comes in with the long term reliability and performance... It doesnt help much to invest in a car that wont last past 5years without major repairs to cheaply designed and built parts....
very informative, good job auto deal plannkng to get one mg , geely ori might end up buying everest sport, isaw yor review about it . lets see what happens
Welp, my service is a Foton Traveller, I always talk to the owner(he is also the driver) and when I ask about the reliability of it and about the parts, its actually fine, its been running for about year with aroud 15k on the odo and only his complain is about the computer box thing, when it has problem you just cant do it in your garage, you need an actual technician and a computer to solve it. Well I dont, maybe problems will show after another year🤷🏻♂️. Btw the 3.2 cummins engine is very torqy too, could climb hills even overloaded
Traveller runs in a 2.8 Cummins engine. We have 1 at 220k plus km, it has its flaws just like the grandia. Though 1 thing I can say, it's reliable and durable specially its clutch system and under chassis.
China cars before were not as good us westerners or japanese or american cars...But now, they were far more than good with competitive price..Vietnam even now develop their own Car Brand name VINFAST..
Sir Caco it's not the "experience" where they get the technology, it's how Chinese Laws work that they've got the technology, you want to get into the Chinese market, get a Chinese Automotive manufacturer there and give a substantial amount of your techology to them, then you can enter the market, sneaky way to make intellectual property thef.
well....still let us see a few more years pa po...still really early to say po...but of course...i know they will go further especially have invested heavily.
Im just waiting for Geely to open more branches in the Metro. When that happens, its a G for Geely. Truth be told, I'm hoping Chinese cars succeed in the PH. Just like mobile phones back in early 2000, we were limited to Samsung, LG, Moto, and Apple.. where now-a-days we have a plethora of choices. More choices for cars = cheaper and maybe better alternatives. We win.
cheaper yes but questionable reliability plus the parts might be harder to come by. if i want a car i want it to have a long life span and always reliable, I won't waste money on "now" but rather invest in the future.
Unfortunately that is subject to false equivalency since mobile phones depreciate faster and are readily replaceable due to relative affordability whereas vehicles are more expensive and, in the case of a lemon, would lead to sunk costs. Geely has some good offerings but despite being in the automobile industry for a considerable amount of time, it still needs to prove itself (better safety ratings across the product lineup, a goal of improving perceptions regarding reliability through actual quality improvement, and the likes)
@@jabe9672 Thats a rather skewed view of "investment". A car is always going to be a liability regardless of what brand or where it came from. Even if a car was something you acquired for free, the required upkeep/maintenance to keep it running is always going to be a recurring cost for you hence "liability". In the spirit of NOT wasting money now or tomorrow or yesterday, looking at cars as an investment is not the way to go. Investments are land, stocks, bonds, savings and such. These make you money. Cars take your money. But making the right choice that is not only dependent on the brand but also do you get the best value out of it for the money you spent? That's the more overlooked question we all need to ask ourselves not just in cars but in anything.
Of all the Chinese brands available, GAC is the cream of the crop. All of their SUVs and minivans are top-notch in build and ride quality, features, and value. The only downside is that their marketing department needs to be more aggressive. Geely is also good, but we need more models other than the Coolray.
With the trend of different automobile brands of different country of origin getting into collaborations, mergers, and joint ventures, car brands from China, India and South Korea are now catching up with their American, European and Japanese counterparts.
The Koreans already caught up, and surpassed the Americans. I dunno about the Indians brands. They make Land Rovers in India now and they seem to be decent, for being Land Rovers at least.
Wait Wait Wait.. Changan is coming in the country bringing ALSVIN CS35PLUS, CS55PLUS, CS75PLUS and CS95 with Bosch safety kits(brakes and airbags) and N95 High Filter Grade inside the vehicle..
i’m just curious on what car do you own? newbie here. i have vios matic but contemplating for few months now on buying either coolraybsport ot hvr high-end model. thing is, i’m worried about aftersales of coolray...
I am a sales agent at ANC group. Former Hyundai, Subaru, and now Kia. I am Very much against selling chinese brand cars honestly because I’ve heard The reviews and test drove one on harsh conditions. You can have a car with too basic features with plastic interior. Or you can have a bling of car made of straw. Quality is tested not on How many feature The car have, but The effectiveness on any given circumstances. Being a car sales agent and driving many cars, and owning 3 cars myself, Foton has to be one of The worst you can buy.
U cannot make a sweeping generalisation. Before commenting pls do in depth research on the companies like geely, cherry , changan who invested billions of dollars on research n debt, and has r &d sites in Europe or even in d us.
Please make a thorough review on the rationale comparo between reliable Japanese n the like cars versus Chinese brands on parts, design etc. So people will know how safe n reliable those Chinese cars are. For example on quality control and design principles. We don't want to get stalled in the middle of the road or get into an accident. Japanese n famous cars have many lemons n design problems, Ford, bmw etc. Please explain why Chinese cars are at least equal. Maybe interview through zoom, etc the designers, quality heads, etc. That's the only way we can truly start considering Chinese cars. For now it's just like having hunches on reliability without more solid basis. Thank you.
Maybe chinese brand is not bad,but will you really risk your hard earned money for not really sure in after sales and reliability,actually Geely has the best features but too much tech is really expensive to repair,we have a family member with Foton toplander,that suv has no issues until now but i heard some overheating issues in Foton trucks and Vans.
Nagkaroon na kami dati ng Chinese motor scooter kung familiar kayo sa Jianshe. 1 yr. Lang sirain laging nasa talyer either flat ang gulong lagi, tapos ung kadena parang bike ang lakas ng tunog! Tapos mahina ang busina tapos walang barurot. Hndi na kami pinapabayad sa talyer kasi madalas kami nagpapgawa. Hanggang binenta nanamin. Hanggang nagsara na ang Jianshe na motor sa Pinas. Yan ang 1 of 100 reasons na kung magtatagal ba ang chinese brand dito sa Pinas lalo na sasakyan na limitado lang ang mga dealers dito.
Check also the geely coolray been checking the review for months and already test drove a unit and its blown me away . Material from exterior and interior absolutely top notch. Luxury ika nga nila. Even the front skirt and diffuser are made in pure carbon fiber . Safety feature na siksik which you cannot find on your beloved japanese brand but if you had a 3M up maybe you can have one and by the way iam a chevy owner and i sell my chevy to by a Geely Coolray just sayin
I'd still prefer Hyundai/Kia over Chinese brands. Hyundai for example has their own Oilbank, in-house engine + transmission. These Chinese brands have engine and transmission outsourced from other manufacturers. It's always better to have a car manufacturer that invests in their own R&D instead of just acquiring parts that fits their target budget.
chinese brands have their own R&D they just choose to use proven parts that will blend with their own creations. Hundai/Kia also use other engines/transmissions from Japanese companies. Chinese cars used the be crappy, not anymore.
Not all Chinese car companies outsource their engine n tyranny. Geely develop their own platform including engine n trans in technical cooperation with their Volvo groups. They have the most modern full robotics automation factory not only in China but also abroad.
Same.. My Chinese friends bought isuzus and hondas. Told me not to support chinese car brands because its a way of indirectly supporting the maoist government.
This channel is underappreciated. This is the best automobile content creator in the Philippines.
Hyundai and Kia Philippines, are you guys watching this?? You need to stop holding back on specs, overpricing your cars, and being complacent on the quality of your aftersales/casa service.
You forgot Ford.
@@ChiekoGamers and toyota (casa and holding back specs)
@Shadow Hedgehog because Philippines is used to the "sachet" or "tinge" type of marketing and that explains why our cars specs here are a downgrade as compared to our neighbors. Downgrade the specs to fit the majority of buyers' budget.
@Shadow Hedgehog Yeah, as much as we wanted to but the car sales system here has been like that for so many years. It has become the norm of car dealerships. We can demand so much but it's them the dealers dictate the market.
@@hulksmash4563rather have bad specs that unreliable Ford
In the Philippines, perception of Chinese cars now are how Korean cars used to be perceived 10 years ago.
Same as in Australia. MGs, LDV, Great Wall and Havals are selling reasonably well.
Perceptions are changing and more and more people are seeing all of the value and none of the reliability issues.
korean cars are not that good.
@@tonyrock5313 nah
@@tonyrock5313 I used to have a 86 and brz na trinade ko sa genesis
mas nagustuhan namin genesis lol
@@tonyrock5313 how can you say korean cars are not that good? can you please explain I'm curious
Throughout my life, I’ve owned only an American & 7 Japanese cars before I tried a Korean car because that was the only brand that offered a small car diesel. In the almost 7 years I’ve owned it, it is running almost 187k kms & hav’nt had any major issues aside from parts that had to be routinely replaced. Very solidly built. All my Japanese ones never reached this mileage & were running very “tired” before they reached 150k with body creaking, alignment & camber issues, loss of power, rusting parts & a host of other issues. I was so impressed & with the savings I got from it, I bought another Korean car, a diesel crossover this time. The only issue in the Philippines with Korean cars now is the bias with the badge (as evidenced by the comment above) & the resale value, both of which I don’t really care about. Korean cars have really come a long way.
Korean car are tested they come a long way and durables also Kia Sportage are competing to Japanese firm I don't know this Chinese car firm can compete the said companies maybe buyers bite them if they run . mileage if not filipino will stick to buy old companies what customers likes was not always having issues of car consulting the mechanic I drive starex Korean made that was good no issues it good I went to cagayan only engine stopped when eating back and port or way back to Angeles city it was past diesel engines no over heating issue it was manual process
thats the problem with the filipino consumers, they tend to be bias towards the japanese brands. when in reality it is best to have lots of choices now, compared to the 90's where you have a limited choices
Probably bought a shitty car
Hyundai Accent CRDI was a very reliable car. Fuel efficient as well...
My hyundai acent crdi 2016 hatch with 215km reading, ayos p rin manakbo. Matulin p rin. Not casa maintained. Alaga lng s change oil👍
I hope there will be a strong PH car brand someday. So that we employ more of our fellowmen. Quite idealistic, but may very well benefit our economy. We bought a lot of cars from Japan, look at their progress
Meyrick Principe easy to say but hard to get, as nobody want to give a damn to invest either to R&D, yet all of our engineers been pirated somewhere, or they just easily silencing them once they discover somethin that will jeopardise the industry and system, u know what I mean for sure😉🤗
Meyrick Principe you guys bought alot of cars from Japan ? so it's a favor you guys doing ?
@@TonyMontana-sl6qn what he mean is japan have a strong economy because of their automotive industry :facepalm:
I agree with that but we need a lot of guts to do it although we have a some filipino engineer and idealistic and experience but we need a lot of funds. But we all know we have some filipino billionaire can do that but they have the big mind or confident to do it so we can create more jobs. and to have a filipino pride to build our own car. Philippine made.
@@percivalaurelio1864 We already manufactured a train but where's the support? Our Filipino pride is kind of misplaced sometimes specially if certain interest comes in.
loving the unbiased inputs and transparency of the report. not a pro and not an anti-Chinese brand. well balanced! awesome!
Philippines should attract foreign investors in vehicles, removing our FDI limit and a better business friendly environment.
Even Vietnam developed its cars.
Believe me or not, Sarao and Almazora (some of the many local manufacturers of jeepneys, closed vans, and buses) actually has a very huge potential in becoming a car manufacturer. All they need is financial and technological support.
I honestly think a state funded car manufacturing company would be a great start to entering the large automotive industry. Not only will it creat jobs but also boost the PH economy.
@@mrjppizza6507 sayang nga eh. Imagine if nakakapag export sila Almazora, Columbian and other trucks and bus manufacturer kahit sa SouthEast Asia lang. Laki sana ng matutulong sa economy naten nun. Kaso ginagatasan pa sila sa tax kaya in the end ang mahal ng mga locally made bus and trucks saten kaya majority ng trucking at bus companies puro used Korean and Chinese Bus/truck ang tinatangkilik.
And Vinfast cars are a sight to behold.
vote for leni then this is one of her platforms
My friend bought a brand new BAIC van. There were defects just after 3 months of using. Maraming nasira, iba-ibang parte ng sasakyan.
Ito nga barko nasasakyan ko dami sira kotse pa kaya
that's what they call 'Business' sadya talaga yun..
yes.. di maganda quality ng BAIC unfortunately
Fotons aren't that good either, they break down pretty quickly.
balik niyo nalang sa dealer yan
In all honesty... Chinese cars look so good! They also have it all... I just wish japanese cars will do their upgrades and make their cars look good.. i would still choose toyota any day for its being reliable and easy to maintain reputation but their Chinese cars are a looker! Japanese manufacturers should really consider this factor or they might experience what happened to the japanese smartphones like sony and sharp... Vanished because they're so lazy to innovate (also expensive) and now we are flooded with Chinese phone brands...
@shinkueagle i agree with you.. again i would also choose reliable brands like toyota any day for those exact reason... But japanese brands should step up their game.. i mean its as he mentioned... Some of these chinese brands are actually doing business with some of the most reliable brand that we know... Its like this... european cars are so good looking but so expensive while japanese brands like toyota, suzuki are so reliable but honestly.. they're boring looking and generic however they're so reliable and affordable.. But Chinese cars are good looking cars but also inexpensive... The only thing they'll have to take care is reliablity... This is why im holding myself from getting that geely car and instead opt for a honda or Toyota car... We'll know how they'll be reliable in 5 years time.. again just like my example... Chinese smartphones did not became an overnight superstars... it took some time (xiaomi offering inexpensive phones but feature packed is their main selling piont) we laugh about them even big brands like sony and nokia and blackberry said they're not worried about them... But look at what happened? We are flooded with xiaomi, oppo, huawei, vivo so on and so forth... They're inexpensive but able to perform well and has good warranty service...
All im saying is these japanese should really step up their game... China and Chinese products should not be ignored anymore! It might be that these Millennials and so is gen z would prefer better looking stuff in the future...
@shinkueagle i do agree that some of these chinese cars are "imitation" of some luxury cars but thats the thing though... They might be "imitation" looking (as it was also pointed out on this video) but they're waaay cheaper than those luxury cars they try to imitate 😅 also those cars you've mentioned are indeed good looking but i believe these cars are not their competition? Those cars are like "luxury" if you ask me since most of them are on 2-3 million pesos so its not really the chinese cars target market... These chinese cars are again.. inexpensive so youve got to compare them to those price segment as welll right? So the likes of vios, avanza, etc etc... Thats why i gotta say that mg cars are really good looking as well as that geely car.. they're wayy cheaper that their competing counterparts
I agree that it is with the beholder on how you define beauty... So people might love it or hate it.. its all up to them!
@shinkueagle true.. i mean that would be enough for us to judge if these cars are not just all looks.. they're also inexpensive and reliable! That's what matter... If they're able to prove that... There's a good chance people would love them!
@shinkueagle i know someone who actually owned a ford mustang and it was involved with an accident with a tricycle... The damage can't be repaired even if the tricycle driver would sell his tryk as it was really expensive... Honestly these luxury cars are nice to see in our streets but the gruesome traffic that we have and our ugly road it is a horror to be involved in a car accident!
@shinkueagle they don't even cause 2M 😅 they're priced in less than a million and thats why they're so attractive to car buyers but still holding back on buying because people wants to get all their money's worth!
You didn't really answer how owning a Chinese really is in terms of reliability and aftersales. You just used a testimonial that a friend of yours trust the guys bringing in the brands. Doesn't really say much about reliability or aftersales.
Dont be stupid bro, read the title
THANK GOD SOMEONE BOTHERED TO ADDRESS THIS. Thanks Sir Caco and the team behind Autodeal.
I wonder how many more Chinese brands would enter if LTO would release their implementing guidelines for electric cars knowing China is leading the race for EVs popularity. Imagine having charging stations on those Chinese casas which might start the electric revolution, if it hasn't started yet.
Agree! 👍ua-cam.com/video/ngDxtdGE5wU/v-deo.html
Bring in Tesla. I would love a Model X.
I want to see nio in the Phil.
@@thetrustysidekick3013 you have money to buy?
@@paulmalapit4240 Yes I do.
Since Tesla is making them in China soon the China-ASEAN trade deal makes vehicles cheaper so Tesla EVs may just undercut other EV vehicles when the time comes.
I did a walkaround first impressions vlog of the Chery Tiggo 8 Luxury EX on my channel. I have to say, with all the bells and whistles that comes standard, and add to that the awesome warranty coverage offers, It's hard to resist the urge to plunk down for the downpayment. Certainly the Chery and other Chinese brand vehicles have come a long way.
For the owners and buyers we just need to "trust the process" I vividly remember when Kia first came to the Philippines. Parang ganyan din, or should I say, comparable to the first time Geely Nd Chery came to the country. It is like Chery qq is almost the same with the Kia pride
I agree sir. When I watch different review of chery tiggo 8 i was amaze.. comparing other japanese brand in it price, napakalayo ng makikita mo sa loob ng chery tiggo 8. Superb exterior, interior, and a lot of features. And the warranty you said is very nice, it shows how the manufacturer trust the engine they made..wala ka makikita sa ibang car manufacturer na ganun katagal ang warranty na 10 years.
You really trust a China to honor any agreement
@@victorsaenz9452
Far better than pinoy companies.
Just look at our buildings and roads and other infra.
@@dickmelsonlupot7697 it’s cheap that’s why empty new cities are falling apart and CCP always have random explosions. I’ll never buy a communist car.
a long term review of these mention vehicles on how many kms they were driven before issues are encountered would ease up consumers anxiety in buying chinese brands.
Give it another 3years . By then we have enough feedback from the general public regarding overall performance, maintenance, reliability and resale value . Though it looks very enticing , I would rather wait for now.
3 years isnt long enough. give it at least 5 years.
@@HansLotap i'd agree with 5 + years a lot more than 3.
even the korean brands took more than a decade to build their reputation in par with japanese brands.
Wait more than 5 years, and you’ll see those chinese cars abandoned or for sale by 30-50% of its brand new price.
@@markho601 same as other brands. What will be the price of a Japanese made 2M suv after 5years?
@@markho601 this perception is not really the right words to preach.
Value is attained by models not brands really.
Not every model units in a brand you can call valuable.
Hype, valuable, legendary.
We can't say that to every cars even on a well known brand.
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Im not china brand fanatics. But i have 2 china car used for bussines only. Very reasonable price and worthy for practical reasons. They are not good as branded but they serve their purpose. There are lot of parts available in auto suppies like spare parts of suzuki, honda, toyota parts can be used as replacement parts for my 2 china cars.
As a rule of thumb, if you want good quality for cheap, don't buy clones. Buy from companies that design their own phones. Clones spent too much time and effort cutting corners on trying to look like something else whereas an original company aren't limited by these things and can bring you the best product they can possibly make.
And always buy branded for items over $100. Branded items have alot more effort put into them for their reputation.
You might have a slight misconception about what branding is. For example, in cellphones, One+ at some point called chinese clones and were now performing close if not better than the branded stuff you are talking about. Now, they are selling phones at the same price point with Samsung and ppl still buy them. Same with AMD to 'branded' Intel where in fact both have brands its just the other is more established.
It's always a leap of faith in the less popular brands. However, MG could be a company (like one+) that is determined to get noticed and established in the market even at the expense of gaining lesser income per unit. If that is the case, many would be regretting now buying when its cheap. If you play in stocks you'd know the feeling.
Of course, MG could also be just an inferior product but considering the effort they put and gradual improvements of their cars on the recent years then I'd like to think positively. My only real concern about MG is the alloys they used in the cars might degrade faster the the Japanese cars.
@@dion4670 No. I mean, don't buy an obviously make product that is branded as iPhone. Buy a lookalike that has their own branding.
Please make a video about most reliable cars among those whom you already reviewed! Thank you!!!
Literally your comedy is the reason why I watch this channel haha milk tea!
Critical piece missing in this and all other videos: parts availability outside Casa? is it widely available, say someone would keep the car for over a decade? TIA! 🙂
Those things have not been addressed
Parts availability for Korean cars outside the casa is not a problem these days.
In my experience, Hyundai is transparent with the part numbers of parts needing replacement.
What particular are u looking?
Sad to say, cars now r designed not to last more than 10 or 15yrs. Even European n Japanese cars have also reliability issues n recalls. Pls research on it.
Geely and GAIC has a good reputation here in Beijing.
I shifted to MG RX5 from Innova and I can honestly say RX5 feels much better than Innova. I also own a Terra. But the MG RX5 was a huge surprise. Very, very high-quality vehicle. Best of the best!
But it's chinese
@@AtlanticCrasher and?
@@AtlanticCrasher what about it
@@AtlanticCrasher So??
@@coffeeislife7430 Chinese cars are L
Chinese cars, just like the China branded mobile phones is catching up fast or already are at par with the premium brands. Now that information and technology can easily be replicated, Chinese carmaker can already make quality and durable cars for less. They may even give better value than your leading car makers. Think of of how xiaomi, Huawei, etc has caught up with Apple and Samsung. Maybe an exact parallel to what has happened to the mobile phone industry is happening now in the car industry.
Yap, b4 nokia,blackberry, or big names like Sony, Samsung,n iphone but look at now, huawie a glorified chinese brand, are scaring then away with feature and advancement..
Yea Huawei and Xiaomi 🤘
Yap mainland Chinese here prefer iPhones. Status symbol when they bring it back to China that they're rich. They cannot do it with China brand cellphone
isali niyo pa po ang Oppo at Vivo.. pati yung kinakabaliwan ng mga techy sa phone ang "OnePlus"
Perfect timing! This is the topic I had with my siblings earlier.
what's the discussion result po
The main concern is the availability of the car parts after years of driving on the road.
Thanka for the video sir! It opens up oppurtunities for big Philippine corporations to invest more on automotive (better if EV or Automated). Love listening to buisness perspectives
Maganda sana pero sa tingin ko problema pa rin sa parts availability at technical support pag may nasira. Take for example the Geely Coolray. It's price is very enticing as it is loaded with a lot of high-tech features. Pero paano kung may masira dun, may enough qualified technicians ba? Yan ang concern ng buyers sa ngayon pagdating sa mga bagong brands dito sa atin.
wonderboykun meaning electronics? Its all systems go prin nman depende cguro sa paggamit mo, for sure, if u hate chinese brand, u’ll do everything to find “butas” to them, just to prove they are not worth the salt😉🤗
@@MrEdron4ever I don't know why it has to go down to hate. What I stated are legit concerns for most if not all car buyers. I own a top of the line Mitsubishi vehicle with all the bells and whistles that you don't get on the lower variants. Although Mitsubishi has dealerships all across the country, I still experience delay of service kasi limited lang technicians nila pagdating sa electronics. Mas mabuti pa nga mechanical ang masira, huwag lang electronics. Mahal na pyesa, mahirap pa ayusin with how complex they have become nowadays.
Sisirain mo ba din ba?
Ganda ganda ng point ni wonderboy kung ano ano sinasbai niyo. Sagutin nyo na lang tanong nya
Wala nmn akong nakitang hate sa sinabi ni wonderboykun. Its a fact. I myself loved to have Chinese brand car kasi sulit na sulit. But sa ngayon mapapaisip ka muna tlaga kasi wala nmng bagay ang hindi masisira. 3 to 5 years warranty nga binigay ng mga Chinese car kaso available kaya ang parts kapag nasira? Kasi kung hindi baka sa casa matutulog ng matagal ang kotse mo
Chinese cars looks good on paper. What we are concerned is it's reliability/longevity. only time will answer the reliability concerns. its good now as it is still new but what happens after 3 years or 100k kms. ?
for now, it is still very challenging to recommend.
well you can see the mg still plying on the streets, 3 years after they entered the philippine market
These Chinese brands are giving 5 year/ 100,000kms warranty on their cars. That's something. If Geely brings their MPV here, it'll be good contender.
Their Jiaji MPV looks very nice
Chery tiggo 8 10years warranty or 1m km. Sa engine then 5years sa general parts and free sa periodic maintenance services for 3years...high tech at luxury and interior
Maganda yan bagong competition tayong consumer ang panalo dyan. Mukhang maganda nga yung geely coolray. Mula nung nakita ko yung nagmukhang lowtech lahat ng american, japanese at korean car sa pinas 😂
But take note that is how chinese do business 😉
Tayong consumer ang panalo? Correction, the real winners will be the chinese.
Geely and BYD are EU and Japanese technologies incorporated.So these cars brands can last a long times as Japanese and Europeans car manufacturers brands.
Hi Kako I think it would be best to make another same topic video about Chinese cars now that they have dominated the market even more. I just got my tiggo8 pro and my experience is superb. I tested all suv brands before buying and considerered all warranties specs and reviews before buying em and never regretted it.
Automotive Engineer here. TLDR, You bought hot garbage.
Long version: Chinese certifications such as 16949 and 26262 are papermill at best than its overseas counterparts. Foreign brands assembled in china adhere to foreign audits and quality standards(I know, I do this audits). Chinese cars ehhh not so much. Safety also raises questions as Chinese cars dont adhere to AIAG requirements.
Kung masaya ka naman eh suportahanta ka. Pera mo naman yan.
Actually we need not Chinese brands on our streets with underpriced price tags...
Bring in the Europeans on our islands without having to pay twice the price and we're in business
Edit: Some dont actually understand what I'm trying to say....
(The 3 series BMW in Europe starts just under P2 million . But here in PH it starts at P3.5 million
You have to pay an extra P1.5 million which I think is not just worth it.)
Euros are made to be more expensive, complex and self repair unfriendly.
The cheapest Euro brand would probably be Skoda? And even they are expensive compared to the competition.
And with the way Chinese cars are developing, it seems likely that the Chinese brands will overtake several of the less innovative competition.
1 2 3 Four Five I meant the price hike due to duty taxes and other stuff
When you choose or want to eat in a fine dining french restaurant then dnt expect to pay like you eating on a food chain then its a problem right?your out of tune...when people try to demand out of your own choice or taste you gotta be willing to pay for the cost,otherwise be contented what on the plate already...your wants of european car, only pave the notion that you want expensive car, coz literally european cars are expensive as it is...not the other way around.
melvin deguit You clearly did not understand what I wanted to say.
I know how expensive European Cars are...
I was regarding to how more expensive they become when they are sold overseas
The 3 series bmw starts at just under 2 million pesos in Europe.
But here in the philippines it starts at P3.5 million.
Hence, My point.
I don't need to read that fine dining restaurant fluff.
Haha u just edited ur original comment, now u add some word, ur original comment only ends in Were in Business...Now
More words added....clearly if we try to disect your original comment which it end only when u say Were in Business you clear sound that u want to bring european cars only if it will not cost much or double,thats why ur last two 3 words in your original comments is WERE IN BUSINESS....i do understand your original comment, but the edited once its deferent story already...
Hello Sir, speaking of chinese car brands. Please make a car review also about Changan's Car. I think they have great cars and deals there too. Thank you!
MG ZS pang pamilyang Pinoy. Price and Quality. I love Japanese cars, pero I gave a shot to this Chinese car.
*Just a funfact:* MG is originally a British brand who manufactures performance cars that was bought off by China's SAIC Motor.
@Josef Campugan Indeed brodah🤙
My little commission ako sa tito ko sa pag suggest sa kanila ng zs. Gusto gusto ng buong pamilya pati mga bata. Kc madami features sa sulit na halaga... The best!
they should bring in European brands built in China with competitive pricing that of Japanese brands made in ASEAN, this will level the playing field.
Cacoooo can you please review your personal car pleaseeeeseeesesesese thanks that would be amazing!! Im so bored with this quarantine thingy!
His fave car is the wife's fave car. The monty.
Dani Gaming Tv yup, this was before Autodeal released the video....
I own a Geely C segment SUV, it was great, super comfy and well built, now getting another Geely B segment SUV for my wife 👍🏽💪🏽🇨🇳from Malaysia 🇲🇾
Hey Carlo. Do you think its high time to provide an update on this? Just to supplement what's been said here.
In the US the best selling car from Buick is Envision and it has the best quality, eventually better built than their American made counterparts and it is made in China.
The Chinese are doing what the Japanese used to do back then when they started building cars. The Japanese used to copy and reverse engineer cars and improved upon European or American designs.
One has to start somewhere and clearly the Chinese are putting wayyy more effort on their new cars compared to the Japanese nowadays.
Oh damn. It really is!!! Japan also did the same thing in guitars in the 70s.
I would buy a chinese car but parts after sales is what im really concern with.
Honda, Toyota, Suzuki and Mazda still best in aftermarket non-dealership parts.
@Don Damien Constantine T. APANIADA You can actually point out which part of my statement is wrong just so we'll know if you really know what you're talking about.
@Don Damien Constantine T. APANIADA So much for an empty argument. lol.
Why do so many Philippine market cars lack basic safety & assistances features ?
30 years ago, 3 Korean car brands hit Phil shores. To cut the story short, piss on those cars or "I would rather wait for my dad to hand me over his first car (assuming it is not a Korean brand)." At present there are plenty of Korean cars competing with their Japanese counterparts.
Personally, for automotive i trust japanese workmanship
The problem is most of the japanese cars we have now, are not really made in japan.
Every manufacturer has a distinct specialty.
The Japanese make reliable cars, if a bit boring to look at.
The Koreans are currently the leaders in Innovation and styling.
The Americans engineer great cars and are great at styling them (the Koreans hired a lot of western designers and now their cars look great)
The Europeans design amazing interiors, the exteriors can be eclectic sometimes.
The Chinese, well, they make good knockoffs of cars. In fact they make such good knockoffs that they were hired to manufacture the real thing now.
buy a TommyKaira.
@@thetrustysidekick3013 I don't think Koreans hired Westerners but Europeans. They hired a German and a Belgian designer who are both ex-Audi designers. No wonder why modern Hyundais and Kias resemble German cars specifically Audis.
@@mrjppizza6507 Well Kia took some designers from Chrysler, FCA's global head of design even said "you noticed that Kia's and Hyundai's are looking better recently?" alluding to the fact they hired some of his best away from Chrysler.
It's on a Netflix documentary here on youtube. It's free too.
I am still waiting for your comprehensive review of the GAC GS3. :)
Maybe someday our mindset will change. Good example is the smart phone scene. Before we only trust american, korean, and japanese phones. Look at where we are now? We have xiaomi, poco, realmi and too many to mention. I understand that phones are cheaper compared to cars but if we will see the larger picture chinese manufacrurers or brands already up their game when it comes to providing good alternatives to expensive products that are expensive.
We don’t trust them.. we make fun of them. It’s just what we can afford. 😂 “I dream of buying “oppo” said no one ever”.
@@Ccm2019 did I say someone's dreaming of oppo? Don't take my analogy literally Lol. I'm speaking good alternative here compare to japanese brand cars which are pretty expensive.
In the movie Ford vs. Ferrari, MG motors was also introduced. Cool 👌
I'm eyeing to acquire a huge-ish vehicle within this year.
I actually do consider getting a Chinese branded vehicle, specifically the Okavango.
Spec/features/capabilities are on point and definitely checks a lot of boxes on my needs.
HOWEVER, it is not the "purchasing" part I am afraid of.
It's the AFTERSALES.
While I do agree that the quality did got a lot better, it's the aftersales support I really am worried about.
Esp. not a lot of "thirdparty" or "your go to" shops can handle such vehicles.
P.S.
I may or may not have contributed a thousand views on your "Montero Vs. Okavango" video.
But maaaaan, I'm just so damn torn.
I wouldn't put my hard earned money to a vehicle that has a questionable reliability.
Maybe someday, but not today.
If you’re a Filipino who needs a car and doesn’t wanna think hard, buy a Toyota. :)
My Japanese car is made in Thailand, so the Mercedes C200 is made in china. It's not a question of where its made but the brand thats in control of the build quality.
If I bought Geely Coolray is there available parts outside casa?
One barometer I always employ when buying cars is to ask their parts services on how quickly they can replace a broken windshield. If they say more than a month kasi oorderin pa, sablay na yun. Look elsewhere.
How often to you change your windshield 😂
@@andrewmagracia8185 duhhhh. you dont change a windshield UNLESS it was broken by accident.
I don’t understand why Korean cars are very pricey in the Phil when these Chinese cars provide way better techs at a cheaper price
If I want tech, I'll buy the latest Iphone or sound system. Chinese cars have questionable reliability.
Not really. The brand reputation and reliability comes into play. And no, most Korean cars have better tech, better engines, better drivetrain, better handling. Korean cars also have the brand recognition. Reliability and durability is also what makes Korean cars more known for more than 30 years now. When Hyundai and Kia launched their cars in the US, they were lauded for their reliable and durable cars. Hyundai and Kia leverages Korea’s dominance as a major steelmaking country. I have had 3 Hyundai cars (1998-2016) and currently owns a Kia Stinger GT. None of those cars broke down or had any major issues in the years I owned them which averaged around 6 years. The only issue I had was replacing one of the windshield wipers on my 2005 Hyundai Sonata. Korean cars have gone a long way and are one of the best now. Chinese cars really need to imrpove their marketing and should stop full on copying European, American, Korean, and Japanese cars.
what kind of metal is used
Its easy to form an opinion on a newly built car...The proof comes in with the long term reliability and performance... It doesnt help much to invest in a car that wont last past 5years without major repairs to cheaply designed and built parts....
very informative, good job auto deal
plannkng to get one mg , geely ori might end up buying everest sport, isaw yor review about it . lets see what happens
Good Day Sir Caco.
Can you post a review of Chery Cars,like Chery Tiggo 2, Tiggo 5 Tiggo 7 and Tiggo 8.
Thank You in advance 😁
Are the parts value for money too? I read somewhere that you can you can only buy parts from them and the prices are sky high.
How’s the situation in regards to the spare parts...
Welp, my service is a Foton Traveller, I always talk to the owner(he is also the driver) and when I ask about the reliability of it and about the parts, its actually fine, its been running for about year with aroud 15k on the odo and only his complain is about the computer box thing, when it has problem you just cant do it in your garage, you need an actual technician and a computer to solve it. Well I dont, maybe problems will show after another year🤷🏻♂️. Btw the 3.2 cummins engine is very torqy too, could climb hills even overloaded
Traveller runs in a 2.8 Cummins engine. We have 1 at 220k plus km, it has its flaws just like the grandia. Though 1 thing I can say, it's reliable and durable specially its clutch system and under chassis.
@@vincentstephenlihao4578 my bad, it is a 2.8 hehe, reliability is pretty surprising for fotons are known for their non lasting vehicles🤔
China cars before were not as good us westerners or japanese or american cars...But now, they were far more than good with competitive price..Vietnam even now develop their own Car Brand name VINFAST..
Sir Caco it's not the "experience" where they get the technology, it's how Chinese Laws work that they've got the technology, you want to get into the Chinese market, get a Chinese Automotive manufacturer there and give a substantial amount of your techology to them, then you can enter the market, sneaky way to make intellectual property thef.
Hi Sir Caco, please have a review on JAC S2 and JAC S3. Want to know your inputs on those cars. Thanks!
how about maintance and spare parts of geely is this availble here in philippines! if a car broke it can be fix or it will go to trash?
6-12month waiting
well....still let us see a few more years pa po...still really early to say po...but of course...i know they will go further especially have invested heavily.
Can you feature the jac s3 sir? Hope to see you having a review on that brand sir thanks
Is the jetour x70 part of the good cars?? I'm seriously considering buying one because of the price
Im just waiting for Geely to open more branches in the Metro. When that happens, its a G for Geely.
Truth be told, I'm hoping Chinese cars succeed in the PH. Just like mobile phones back in early 2000, we were limited to Samsung, LG, Moto, and Apple.. where now-a-days we have a plethora of choices.
More choices for cars = cheaper and maybe better alternatives. We win.
cheaper yes but questionable reliability plus the parts might be harder to come by. if i want a car i want it to have a long life span and always reliable, I won't waste money on "now" but rather invest in the future.
@@jabe9672 agree
Unfortunately that is subject to false equivalency since mobile phones depreciate faster and are readily replaceable due to relative affordability whereas vehicles are more expensive and, in the case of a lemon, would lead to sunk costs.
Geely has some good offerings but despite being in the automobile industry for a considerable amount of time, it still needs to prove itself (better safety ratings across the product lineup, a goal of improving perceptions regarding reliability through actual quality improvement, and the likes)
@@jabe9672 Thats a rather skewed view of "investment". A car is always going to be a liability regardless of what brand or where it came from. Even if a car was something you acquired for free, the required upkeep/maintenance to keep it running is always going to be a recurring cost for you hence "liability".
In the spirit of NOT wasting money now or tomorrow or yesterday, looking at cars as an investment is not the way to go. Investments are land, stocks, bonds, savings and such. These make you money. Cars take your money. But making the right choice that is not only dependent on the brand but also do you get the best value out of it for the money you spent?
That's the more overlooked question we all need to ask ourselves not just in cars but in anything.
@@BucNastyy Read my comment again, reading comprehension could save you from commenting something so darn long
It's also about collaboration between other countries to develop vehicles.
Of all the Chinese brands available, GAC is the cream of the crop. All of their SUVs and minivans are top-notch in build and ride quality, features, and value. The only downside is that their marketing department needs to be more aggressive.
Geely is also good, but we need more models other than the Coolray.
chinese companies cannot just simply do that, they have to test the market what sells here. so they limit thier lineup.
Hi! I love your reviews, i would like to request for a review of BAIC Journey M60 1.5 MT. Thank you in advance
My neighbor offer me ha/ma 2 Mt hatchback, u think it is worth it or not? Btw is ha/ma a good brand?
With the trend of different automobile brands of different country of origin getting into collaborations, mergers, and joint ventures, car brands from China, India and South Korea are now catching up with their American, European and Japanese counterparts.
The Koreans already caught up, and surpassed the Americans.
I dunno about the Indians brands. They make Land Rovers in India now and they seem to be decent, for being Land Rovers at least.
@@thetrustysidekick3013 Very true. In fact the western car giants were surprised by KIA's newly launched EVs. Talking about the EV6 and the Ioniq5
Wait Wait Wait.. Changan is coming in the country bringing ALSVIN CS35PLUS, CS55PLUS, CS75PLUS and CS95 with Bosch safety kits(brakes and airbags) and N95 High Filter Grade inside the vehicle..
its nice to hear that Chinese cars are now reliable...but how about the resale value?
question lang po would you buy a Chinese car?
Which is the best and most durable
Chinese made car and is Ssang Yong worth it?
Nope that korean
i’m just curious on what car do you own? newbie here. i have vios matic but contemplating for few months now on buying either coolraybsport ot hvr high-end model. thing is, i’m worried about aftersales of coolray...
I am a sales agent at ANC group. Former Hyundai, Subaru, and now Kia. I am Very much against selling chinese brand cars honestly because I’ve heard The reviews and test drove one on harsh conditions. You can have a car with too basic features with plastic interior. Or you can have a bling of car made of straw.
Quality is tested not on How many feature The car have, but The effectiveness on any given circumstances. Being a car sales agent and driving many cars, and owning 3 cars myself, Foton has to be one of The worst you can buy.
What is ridiculous is that Chinese cars are selling well in Europe. Does the Philippines have highways?
U cannot make a sweeping generalisation. Before commenting pls do in depth research on the companies like geely, cherry , changan who invested billions of dollars on research n debt, and has r &d sites in Europe or even in d us.
Correction devt.
BYD is so good brand. It's 4rth most valuable car in the world. And Nio is is so premium brand and rival of tesla in ev market.
Hi. Glad you came out with this. Can you give a review about the commercial vehicles of JMC.? Not much review in UA-cam about their vehicles.
Please make a thorough review on the rationale comparo between reliable Japanese n the like cars versus Chinese brands on parts, design etc. So people will know how safe n reliable those Chinese cars are. For example on quality control and design principles. We don't want to get stalled in the middle of the road or get into an accident. Japanese n famous cars have many lemons n design problems, Ford, bmw etc. Please explain why Chinese cars are at least equal. Maybe interview through zoom, etc the designers, quality heads, etc. That's the only way we can truly start considering Chinese cars. For now it's just like having hunches on reliability without more solid basis. Thank you.
Maybe chinese brand is not bad,but will you really risk your hard earned money for not really sure in after sales and reliability,actually Geely has the best features but too much tech is really expensive to repair,we have a family member with Foton toplander,that suv has no issues until now but i heard some overheating issues in Foton trucks and Vans.
Hi sir... I owned BAIC M60 Turbo MPV for 1yr now... Panalo sa specs and space. 👌👌👌
Thanks Caco! Review the Jac S2 pls.
you should make a new video regarding Chinese cars and how reliable they are compare to the last 4 years
Parts availability though. Mahirap din kasi kung lahat na lang ng pyesa kailangan pa orderin, either sa central warehouse in the metro or abroad.
Nagkaroon na kami dati ng Chinese motor scooter kung familiar kayo sa Jianshe. 1 yr. Lang sirain laging nasa talyer either flat ang gulong lagi, tapos ung kadena parang bike ang lakas ng tunog! Tapos mahina ang busina tapos walang barurot. Hndi na kami pinapabayad sa talyer kasi madalas kami nagpapgawa. Hanggang binenta nanamin. Hanggang nagsara na ang Jianshe na motor sa Pinas. Yan ang 1 of 100 reasons na kung magtatagal ba ang chinese brand dito sa Pinas lalo na sasakyan na limitado lang ang mga dealers dito.
its about quality control being inforced or not.. not being made in China or not
Please do a review on DFSK 580
gusto ko din subukan ang chinese brands particullarly the MG. currently i own the ever reliable t.innova 2012 model. makahanap nga ng mga reviews..🤔
Wag, stick to the usual brands. Kung gusto mo ng iba bumili ka ng Subaru o Mazda, or mag upgrade sa Fortuner.
Check also the geely coolray been checking the review for months and already test drove a unit and its blown me away . Material from exterior and interior absolutely top notch. Luxury ika nga nila. Even the front skirt and diffuser are made in pure carbon fiber . Safety feature na siksik which you cannot find on your beloved japanese brand but if you had a 3M up maybe you can have one and by the way iam a chevy owner and i sell my chevy to by a Geely Coolray just sayin
So is it safe to say better wait for 5+ years before thinking of buying china brand car?
Thanks for this informative video.Taking my chance on a Maxus.
The only thing we needed to know really is the depreciation value. How will these cars hold up in 6 - 7 years?
Base sa Experience ko sa Jianshe motor brand. Biglang nagsasara at soobranngg sirain.
In the crash tests the chinese built cars failed multiple times and were not allowed to be sold in the european market. That is not long ago.
I'd still prefer Hyundai/Kia over Chinese brands. Hyundai for example has their own Oilbank, in-house engine + transmission. These Chinese brands have engine and transmission outsourced from other manufacturers. It's always better to have a car manufacturer that invests in their own R&D instead of just acquiring parts that fits their target budget.
Exactly... sayang monthly ammortization ko if I choose their brand over Kona. Parang di nakaka proud sa highway... just saying ✌
chinese brands have their own R&D they just choose to use proven parts that will blend with their own creations. Hundai/Kia also use other engines/transmissions from Japanese companies. Chinese cars used the be crappy, not anymore.
Not all Chinese car companies outsource their engine n tyranny. Geely develop their own platform including engine n trans in technical cooperation with their Volvo groups. They have the most modern full robotics automation factory not only in China but also abroad.
but why mostly my Chinese friends are not buying those chinese brand?.
Same..
My Chinese friends bought isuzus and hondas. Told me not to support chinese car brands because its a way of indirectly supporting the maoist government.
caco pls review corona virus...