Dr. Brown Pulls Out Of American Gospel 3: My Comments from 2022

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • On Oct. 20 Dr. Michael Brown announced on Twitter that he was not going to appear in American Gospel 3: Spirit & Fire after he saw the direction that the film and its producer Brandon Kimber were going. In this video I show a clip from 2022 where I said that Brandon was not to be trusted.
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  • @keith3362
    @keith3362 10 місяців тому +19

    I feel many people are underestimating the sneakiness of the Calvinists. They lie about what other people actually believe to misrepresent them and say they are wrong, all the while never revealing their beliefs of election based on nothing (really to heaven and hell) before birth, limited atonement, etc, irresistable grace (they skipped over the verses where people resisted God in the bible), etc. It's at the point where it has to be said they have 'another gospel' than the one in the bible. Dr Brown thought Brandon was sincere - maybe he is sincere, but he is sincerely wrong. I've come to realize this is their 'modus operandi', criticize other people and dismiss whole movements within Christianity so they can get those people in their church and thinking like them (they think they alone are right), yet some of them eventually wake up and leave calvinism - like Dr Brown did. I think it's time for Dr Brown or someone else to do a 'Calvinist Gospel' movie and take apart the doctrines of calvinism.

    • @bibleman7757
      @bibleman7757 10 місяців тому

      Armininians are going straight to hell

    • @clellaadams
      @clellaadams 9 місяців тому

      They can't help it. God already ordained it. LoL

    • @ivanodosreis4921
      @ivanodosreis4921 5 місяців тому +1

      @@clellaadamsLOLOLOL. 🤣😂👌

    • @lpcruz5661
      @lpcruz5661 5 місяців тому

      Great suggestion.

  • @davidhill6941
    @davidhill6941 10 місяців тому +14

    I believe that Dr. Brown tries to think the best of everyone. I'm just glad he saw the motives before he invested more of his time.

    • @chasebrady1511
      @chasebrady1511 10 місяців тому

      I don’t think Dr. Michael Brown was fully naïve in a sense of saying “oh Brandon had a change of mind so I’ll be glad to do this film.” No I think Dr. Brown had his concerns for Brandon and for the project but was kind of hoping that Brandon would be very sincere with American gospel 3 Spirit and Fire. I listen to his Line of Fire. But as things begin to become more apparent, Dr. Brown began to take action of what he was concerned all along.

    • @1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
      @1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor 10 місяців тому

      Typical calvinest double speak.

    • @1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
      @1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor 10 місяців тому

      Well, I just hope it doesn't take a church split to be open minded.

    • @1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
      @1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor 10 місяців тому +1

      MacArthur admitted in an interview early on he decieved churches to convert them to Calvinism.
      It's a cult unless people learn that it's dishonest,they waste their time finding out the hard way.

  • @kazamareenkurios8197
    @kazamareenkurios8197 10 місяців тому +14

    Deeply appreciate both your & Dr. Brown's channels. Ever so grateful to God I veered away from what I once thought were solid teachers of the Word (ie Calvinistic and/or Cessationist).

    • @chasebrady1511
      @chasebrady1511 10 місяців тому +1

      I used to be the same thing too but God gave me a heart for Revival, and I began to look up at the Brownsville Revival and The Lord convicted me on how wrong I was. I repented of my criticism against Penecostal, charismatic and I begin to receive more answers from charismatic and Penecostal figures and by looking into the deeper depths of supernatural church history as to why charismatics and Pentecostals hold to their beliefs. For example, being slain in the spirit or contemplative prayer is not a charismatic thing or a Pentecostal thing. These spiritual occurrences of trembling and shakings and Spiritual discipline of contemplation, all happen with the Catholic Mystics, the Protestant Movement, the Pietist Movement, the Puritan movement, The Quaker Movement, The First Great Awakening, The 18th century Welch Revival with Calvinistic Methodist, and The Second Great Awakening, the Holiness movement and a sect of the Holiness Movement called the Higher Life Movement, all the revivals of the 1900s and the Penecostal charismatic movement. All of these Revivalists figures from all theological backgrounds experienced God and had a heart for Revival and and some that are still alive, still do today.

  • @20kevron
    @20kevron 10 місяців тому +5

    I’ve concluded that most are not interested in good faith dialogues

  • @TorianoV
    @TorianoV 10 місяців тому +3

    They have been out for blood after the new movies dropped and Dr. Brown still wants to see everything with good eyes. He's a better follower of Christ than me.

  • @christinezaslavsky647
    @christinezaslavsky647 10 місяців тому +5

    Many believers have been influenced by these deceptive attacks against full gospel faith in Jesus, but Jew & Greek faithfully and factually refutes them like David against lions , bears and that giant Goliath. He should have a column in Charisma Magazine.

  • @thesmiffers
    @thesmiffers 10 місяців тому +6

    Excellent, brother! And thank you for emphasizing Dr. Brown's busy life; I really think it does justice to a good man. I would love it if he would consent to join you in one of your "Rod and Staff" programs. Blessings.

  • @roddyk2655
    @roddyk2655 10 місяців тому +13

    I'm sorry .. I just do NOT understand what it wrong with people like Dr Brown and Mike Winger and all these other people that they are so eager at getting some kind of recognition from the Calvinists pharisees. I can't listen to any of them because every time Calvinism or a Calvinist doctrine comes up I have to listen to 10 minutes of disclaimer about "Oh I love John MacArthur/Phil Johnson/Justin Peters etc so much, oh I consider Calvinist brothers and I just love them oh gosh they're so great and wonderful no one loves the Word as much as these Calvinist blah blah blah blah blah".. Well, I look at Calvinist liars the same way Jesus looked at Pharisee liars... they aren't unbelievers that need our love and patience, they are Bible usurpers that twist the scripture and need to be handled the way Jesus handled the Pharisees.

    • @chasebrady1511
      @chasebrady1511 10 місяців тому +3

      The reason why we consider their brothers and sisters is probably because they came to salvation faith, which is true because I’ve heard the testimony of John MacArthur how we came to faith so he’s considered a brother he’s just very wrong on the charismatic movement. Truth is these are saved brothers, but they’re just totally blinded by their own understanding of what discernment is and they’re not even realizing that their discernment against the charismatic movement is wrong.

    • @roddyk2655
      @roddyk2655 10 місяців тому +7

      @@chasebrady1511 Calvinism vs Non- Calvinism is WAY more than Cessationism vs Continuationism... Calvinism is a different Gospel... I'm not God so I can't judge the heart or who is saved or not saved but I have to wonder about a religious system with a soteriology that teaches Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace and Perseverance of the saints. They also teach that God predetermines all sin (think about that) they also believe God chooses some people for Salvation and others for damnation. Sounds like blasphemy to me..

    • @tannerfrancisco8759
      @tannerfrancisco8759 10 місяців тому

      ​@@chasebrady1511John MacArthur is not a Christian. He's the greatest false teacher of the last 400 years leading millions who would believe into the prison of false religion and millions more believers out of belief and into the aposty of works-based Lordship Salvation and Calvinism. He's an agent of Satan on the earth--one of the wolves in sheep's clothing Jesus and Paul warned us of.
      He himself denies ever even being a sinner! His definition of grace is God giving you the opportunity to prove you are among the elect. Most Christians today are spiritually blind and deaf-- they cannot discern what must be discerned and they cannot hear The Shepherd's voice instead they hear the voice of their counterfeit "holy spirit"--an antiChrist spirit--a demon of religious pride and deception. They are the sheep of another shepherd being led to the slaughter. John MacArthur uses Christian words but he is an idolater 10 times over and none of his gods are God the Father, the true Lord Jesus Christ, or the Holy Spirit. The fact that he blatantly lies constantly should be a huge red flag to any genuine Spirit-filled Christian, but you'll be blind to it if you hold this demon-possessed man's teachings above the Word of God--Jesus--and the witness of the Holy Spirit.
      If you cannot see John MacArthur as the false teacher he is then you're either not saved or your demonically deceived and need to humble yourself before the Lord, repent of your deception, and ask the Holy Spirit--the Spirit of Truth-- to set you free from the deception. If you have the Holy Spirit within you then you'd do that out of humility and obedience to the Lord. If you have a religious demon, then you won't.
      If you do not KNOW that you are Spirit-filled, if you don't have the Holy Spirit bearing witness to you that you are a son of God, then Lord ask God to fill you with His Holy Spirit and receive Him in faith, and He will set you free.

    • @josephrussell9076
      @josephrussell9076 10 місяців тому +4

      More believers of the GOOD News Gospel, the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, need to call a spade a spade and quit beating around the bush. I applaud you for not mincing words!

    • @johndisalvo6283
      @johndisalvo6283 10 місяців тому +2

      @@chasebrady1511. I heard MacArthur TRY to explain his conversion and he can’t even pinpoint a specific point where he was saved! Ambiguity deluxe!

  • @susanthroop1279
    @susanthroop1279 10 місяців тому +6

    He should have listened...lol. I agree with you that Dr Brown is naive about Calvinists.

  • @spn2240
    @spn2240 10 місяців тому +3

    I watched the grave soaking episodes and the live Q&A afterwards when it aired on AGTV. They talked about Dr. Brown so much that I was thinking, “why are you still talking about him after you did a whole blog post, showed his segments on the episodes, etc.?
    It felt like that wanted to air those episodes to get ahead of him leaving the project to show their narrative. I could be wrong about that, but like Dr. Brown I was surprised that two whole episodes (nearly 2 hours) were discussed with a lot of discussion surrounding grave soaking (something no one is doing at Bethel or related to Bethel anymore for years now which they admit). Yes, there is an agenda. Honestly, it was just the first 2 episodes but the 2nd AGTV movie showed a lot more of the opposing side which I liked. I’m pretty sure slid I recall they only showed Sam Storms and Josh from RR, for about 30 seconds each, footage that was actually from interviews not just edited soundbites. Yes, there is an agenda for sure. I’m hoping to be proven wrong with other episodes that will be aired. Holding out 🤞

  • @buckeyewill2166
    @buckeyewill2166 6 місяців тому +2

    When will Calvinists criticize the members of their movement who pushed and shoved Jim Crow laws in Statehouses?????

  • @ryandawson2877
    @ryandawson2877 10 місяців тому +2

    Very good. Great video. There seems to be a line there between walking in love believing the best of everyone and also when people show you their true colors, believe them. Glad he pulled out because that’s nothing. He needs to be a part of.

  • @20kevron
    @20kevron 10 місяців тому +2

    Glad Rod is there to research and do his part.

  • @MinLeeMajors
    @MinLeeMajors 10 місяців тому +1

    You can be too nice.... so nice that you let wolves in w/o protecting the sheep. Being too nice will cloud your discernment. There's no need to be nice to snakes!

  • @albertlopez2237
    @albertlopez2237 10 днів тому

    Rush Lumbah said it best. There is no such thing as bipartisan. One side has to die or submit to another.

  • @joedaw3003
    @joedaw3003 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for posting fair and incisive content. A rare occurrence is a deeply divided and fractious church.

  • @ivanodosreis4921
    @ivanodosreis4921 10 місяців тому +2

    Hello sir. When are you going to do your next live stream? I really enjoyed the last one.

    • @JewandGreek
      @JewandGreek  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks. Hopefully this Friday.

  • @AvaGreenFeather
    @AvaGreenFeather 10 місяців тому +2

    God bless!

  • @johndisalvo6283
    @johndisalvo6283 10 місяців тому +2

    Great video Rod!!!!!

  • @larriveeman
    @larriveeman 5 місяців тому

    Look at those who appear on Sid Rothy’s show, full of false teachers/prophets, that doesn’t mean all charismatic are false

  • @troyedwards6713
    @troyedwards6713 10 місяців тому +2

    Good video Rod. Thanks.

  • @samuelnsquishy8798
    @samuelnsquishy8798 10 місяців тому +1

    Great!

  • @Francisco_williams4519
    @Francisco_williams4519 4 місяці тому

    Imagine thinking Michael Brown is sincere and well intentioned 😂. The only thing worse than Calvinism is enthusiastic charismania.

  • @larriveeman
    @larriveeman 5 місяців тому +1

    Calvinist’s are unbiblical

  • @R.L.KRANESCHRADTT
    @R.L.KRANESCHRADTT 10 місяців тому

    👍

  • @AJTramberg
    @AJTramberg 10 місяців тому +3

    Lol...if you are supporting Bill Johnson, you are off the deep end. He'a gone into full blown New Age.

    • @JewandGreek
      @JewandGreek  10 місяців тому +12

      I don't agree with everything that Bill Johnson says and does, but that doesn't make him a heretic or "New Age". One thing he doesn't do is lie about his theological opponents and make "discernment" videos based on those lies.

    • @jonathandavid9720
      @jonathandavid9720 10 місяців тому +1

      False accusation - get your facts right

    • @MinLeeMajors
      @MinLeeMajors 10 місяців тому

      ​@JewandGreek he literally had feathers come down and he said it was from GOD..
      He had glitter coming from his vents and said it was a glory cloud.. he teaches Jesus was born again and GOD'S WILL is that we're always healed...but his wife died of cancer...
      He's fraudulent

    • @patcandelora8496
      @patcandelora8496 8 місяців тому

      Why would Benny Hinn say that at all?

    • @rickylimbu3668
      @rickylimbu3668 4 місяці тому

      Have you don't personal research about Bill Johnson apart from the UA-cam Videos? God bless you 🙏🏻