Elisabeth, thank you very much for the great review and very interesting topic. An easy life probably doesn't make people better. It is important to understand, that pain is neccesary. God bless you! 😘❤
Another great book review. I’ve never read a book by C.S. Lewis. Thank you for a great introduction to his work. Some say C.S. Lewis was a Catholic but didn’t know it. Now I know why some say that. I love how he mentioned we are God’s masterpiece! And how God speaks through shouts of pain. I relate to that. I enjoy and appreciate your opinion as I look forward to your next week book review.🐌
@@BiblicalBookworm Impressive recommendation! I will definitely check out mere Christianity! And Thank you for your credible insight. I have a few books lined up for my reading pleasure but I am a 🐌 when it comes to speed so it will be awhile before I get to mere Christianity. But I am trying to keep up.🐌
I don't agree that he was Catholic. Many of his beliefs don't fit Catholicism. And Catholics definitely believe in hell! In any case, I agree with @biblicalbookworm that Mere Christianity is a fantastic book. It Changed my perspective and life 🙏 God bless everyone for 2023 🙏🙏
Elisabeth, if you haven't read Leibniz' Theodizee yet, I think that you would definitely be interested! Excellent video, and I completely agree with you about the unhelpfulness of Lewis' writing on animal pain 🙏🏻
best book I ever read on the problem is evil is by Fr. Brian Davies his approach is unique and counter intuitive but nevertheless it is logically impenetrable
Dear Elizabeth. There is a big breakthrough on the Book of Job in the novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD - Burke.” Enjoy the breakthrough! C.S. Lewis would be proud!
Great review. Do you think it would be "palatable" and a good choice to give to an atheist having such objections, also suffering it, who it not into "complicated stuff", philosophy etc? Sounds like it might. Personally I read probably 6 books from C.S. Lewis and only really liked Mere Christianity.
If the atheist showed interest in such a book this is a good choice as its not too complicated. There is also a free audiobook version of it on UA-cam. I also recently read "Confronting Christianity: 12 Hard Questions for the World's Largest Religion" it covers the problem of pain as one of the 12 questions and I found it outstanding.
Hello, How are you doing, I’m Donovan!” I have some questions concerning this book, I really love the book. It’s so good until Ive read, but I feel I’m missing something out of the statements. Are you open to a conversation about book? 😊
My disagreement is this, how can you compare God creating us to an artist creating art, or a pet owner, or a man's love to a woman? God literally created us and created our emotions themselves. It's just not even a accurate comparison. Do you disagree?
I agree with you, C.S. Lewis' comparisons are not perfect. C.S. Lewis himself writes in this book "The relation between Creator and creature is, of course, unique, and cannot be paralleled by any relations between one creature and another". But I believe that each of the comparisons highlights specific features of the relationship between humans and God.
The comparison to a pet is somewhat offending to me but I like the other two (but I haven't read the book yet). Personally some things in Scripture reminds me of an artist (Genesis 1...) and when you read for example a definition of "art" even on Wikipedia - "Art is a diverse range of human activity, and resulting product, that involves creative or imaginative talent expressive of technical proficiency, beauty, emotional power, or conceptual ideas." Replace "human" with "divine" and it doesn't sound that far off. And man's love to a woman - God Himself loves it to describe it so again and again. The Church is His Bride. She's so unfaithful to Him. Read Song of Songs for starters. For Jews, that's ultimately about the relationship between God and Israel and for Christians, between Christ and His Church. The history will end with a wedding feast.
@@BiblicalBookworm Oh my, my subconscious whispered Polish, but I went with Czech because it's closer to Austria, Vienna, where your About Me indicates you are. Okay, thank you very much. C.S. Lewis is a favorite of mine, so I'm glad UA-cam put your channel into my feed. Sincerely, Hans (America)
Hi Miss. I would like to ask you to really considder the free will given to every human and angel from God and whit the price it comes whit for God and us, i have considdered this in many years because i have suffered a lot, and in my opinoion life on earth and true agape or charity love do not give any meaning whit out free will, to choose to do good ore evi and reep the payment that comes whi it, and we have been so doped by satans lies about God. Gods peace to you
This was a review in the strictest sense, like a sort of Cliff Notes, without delving into opinions. I notice C.S. Lewis is a 3 part twist of traditional Christianity (non-Calvinism), Calvinism and his own musings. I'm currently studying the book since the '70's first read. Analogies are and should be very loose when applying them to God and Man's relationship. One of the problems I'm seeing is that he seems to give equal definition to pain and evil, sometimes substituting one word for another. My general thoughts: Evil should not be defined primarily as humanly bad things but rather more of choices and actions that God himself would not/could not choose due to his holiness. Anything outside the will of God for man is evil. Evil is like darkness, it's the absence of light. God allows the expression of evil but is not dependent on it to accomplish his purposes. Evil does serve a unique role in that it automatically separates the sheep from the goats and condemns itself and its bearer as being outside the will of God in view of future judgment. Pain, on the other hand, can be due to evil actions, non-evil willful acts, accidents and simply acts by and part of nature. Is it evil that humans are subject to forces that can cause pain or to even the ability to experience the pain itself? When talking about pain, we need to further examine it to understand it's source and categorization. Not all pain is evil and not all evil is painful (at least in this life). Assuming that a good God would only allow good things to happen to his creatures is exactly that....an assumption. There is free will and autonomy in choices made in a mortal world and even good choices (non-evil) will bring pain and even suffering. I do not doubt that choices that humans make bring God pain and he suffers disappointment. The Bible speaks of that. We are made in his image, not he in ours, so I understand that God has a wide range of emotions, that even include humor. Again, just general thoughts.
I agree, pain and evil are not the same, thank you for sharing your thoughts! As far as I remember C.S. Lewis never said that pain and evil are the same but I would be grateful if you could quote any passages. Would you prefer it if I made my videos less of a summary and more of a review? 🙃
@@BiblicalBookworm He uses the two terms interchangeably from the little I've read. As I continue to read, I'll earmark the parts where he does (did) this, type them up and present them here. Otherwise, make your videos the way YOU like. I may have expected a review but the summary was useful (for a general idea of what I'll be reading). Thanks.
A few weeks ago as promised I left here the quotes out of C.S. Lewis book where he equates pain and evil, without distinction. I know I left verifiable pages or direct quotes, unfortunately they are no longer in this thread. I'm saddened by their disappearance as I have to re-read the chapters and collect the thoughts again. This time I will save the response before I post it. I shall return.
I've read this book, all be it, quite some years ago and was completely baffled about what C.S.Lewis was on about, except that he was a total twat who would join the argument about about the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin. Love and peace, Terence, XXX.
Congratulations on your 10K subscribers. But we all know who we should be following; Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I follow Jesus Christ, Don't follow me, follow him..
Great review l like all your videos thank you God bless you 🙏
Thank you Mr. Alvarez!
@@BiblicalBookworm Your welcome Elizabeth.
Elisabeth, thank you very much for the great review and very interesting topic. An easy life probably doesn't make people better. It is important to understand, that pain is neccesary. God bless you! 😘❤
Amen!
Really enjoy your reviews. Have a blessed day!
Thanks! Have a blessed day too!
Nice review! When I read this last year, I found it to be easy to read, while also being very rich.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you! C.S. Lewis is excellent!
For a breakthrough understanding of the Book of Job, read the novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke.” Advanced. Enjoy the breakthroughs!
Thank you dear for bringing such wonderful books to our attention , God bless you , keep the good work 👏
Thank you for all your encouraging comments on my videos :)
@@BiblicalBookworm 🙏🌷
Another great book review. I’ve never read a book by C.S. Lewis. Thank you for a great introduction to his work. Some say C.S. Lewis was a Catholic but didn’t know it. Now I know why some say that. I love how he mentioned we are God’s masterpiece! And how God speaks through shouts of pain. I relate to that. I enjoy and appreciate your opinion as I look forward to your next week book review.🐌
C.S. Lewis is phenomenal! I especially recommend Mere Christianity.
Shouts in our pain... so true 🙏
@@BiblicalBookworm
Impressive recommendation! I will definitely check out mere Christianity! And Thank you for your credible insight. I have a few books lined up for my reading pleasure but I am a 🐌 when it comes to speed so it will be awhile before I get to mere Christianity. But I am trying to keep up.🐌
He also might have been Orthodox Christian but not have known it.
I don't agree that he was Catholic. Many of his beliefs don't fit Catholicism. And Catholics definitely believe in hell! In any case, I agree with @biblicalbookworm that Mere Christianity is a fantastic book. It Changed my perspective and life 🙏 God bless everyone for 2023 🙏🙏
Great review. Thanls!
You're welcome :)
Great review. Clear and concise. Summarizes the book well.
Thank you 😊
Elisabeth, if you haven't read Leibniz' Theodizee yet, I think that you would definitely be interested! Excellent video, and I completely agree with you about the unhelpfulness of Lewis' writing on animal pain 🙏🏻
Thank you for the recommendation!It's on my tbr now ✅
You have huge talent. Many of us are lazy in reading/ understanding books like Mere Christianity.
Thank you, I really appreciate your kind comment! 😊
Thank you
Dear ma'am, thanks for your great work. The pilgrims progress also a great book to review
Thank you for the recommendation!
best book I ever read on the problem is evil is by Fr. Brian Davies
his approach is unique and counter intuitive
but nevertheless it is logically impenetrable
Thank you for the recommendation! I put it on my tbr :)
Dear Elizabeth. There is a big breakthrough on the Book of Job in the novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD - Burke.” Enjoy the breakthrough! C.S. Lewis would be proud!
Great review. Do you think it would be "palatable" and a good choice to give to an atheist having such objections, also suffering it, who it not into "complicated stuff", philosophy etc? Sounds like it might. Personally I read probably 6 books from C.S. Lewis and only really liked Mere Christianity.
If the atheist showed interest in such a book this is a good choice as its not too complicated. There is also a free audiobook version of it on UA-cam. I also recently read "Confronting Christianity: 12 Hard Questions for the World's Largest Religion" it covers the problem of pain as one of the 12 questions and I found it outstanding.
God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain…. He is shouting loudly to me!
I will pray for you! 🌷
I loved it ❤
OOOOOoooo Such a good read!
Hello, How are you doing, I’m Donovan!” I have some questions concerning this book, I really love the book.
It’s so good until Ive read, but I feel I’m missing something out of the statements. Are you open to a conversation about book? 😊
Sure, if you have any questions you can write them as a comment :)
My disagreement is this, how can you compare God creating us to an artist creating art, or a pet owner, or a man's love to a woman? God literally created us and created our emotions themselves. It's just not even a accurate comparison. Do you disagree?
I agree with you, C.S. Lewis' comparisons are not perfect. C.S. Lewis himself writes in this book "The relation between Creator and creature is, of course, unique, and cannot be paralleled by any relations between one creature and another". But I believe that each of the comparisons highlights specific features of the relationship between humans and God.
The comparison to a pet is somewhat offending to me but I like the other two (but I haven't read the book yet). Personally some things in Scripture reminds me of an artist (Genesis 1...) and when you read for example a definition of "art" even on Wikipedia - "Art is a diverse range of human activity, and resulting product, that involves creative or imaginative talent expressive of technical proficiency, beauty, emotional power, or conceptual ideas." Replace "human" with "divine" and it doesn't sound that far off.
And man's love to a woman - God Himself loves it to describe it so again and again. The Church is His Bride. She's so unfaithful to Him. Read Song of Songs for starters. For Jews, that's ultimately about the relationship between God and Israel and for Christians, between Christ and His Church. The history will end with a wedding feast.
Hosea too describe a bride of Israel with God.@@lumpichu
Well done. What is your native language? You have an interesting accent, but I don't think it's German. Thank you
What do you think my native language could be? I was raised with more than one native language (one is German) 😊
@@BiblicalBookworm I suspect Czech, but the mix with German makes it unique and difficult to determine.
@@SKF358 wow you're really close, my 2nd native language is Polish 😲
@@BiblicalBookworm Oh my, my subconscious whispered Polish, but I went with Czech because it's closer to Austria, Vienna, where your About Me indicates you are. Okay, thank you very much. C.S. Lewis is a favorite of mine, so I'm glad UA-cam put your channel into my feed. Sincerely, Hans (America)
Hi Miss. I would like to ask you to really considder the free will given to every human and angel from God and whit the price it comes whit for God and us, i have considdered this in many years because i have suffered a lot, and in my opinoion life on earth and true agape or charity love do not give any meaning whit out free will, to choose to do good ore evi and reep the payment that comes whi it, and we have been so doped by satans lies about God. Gods peace to you
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! God bless you!
This was a review in the strictest sense, like a sort of Cliff Notes, without delving into opinions.
I notice C.S. Lewis is a 3 part twist of traditional Christianity (non-Calvinism), Calvinism and his own musings.
I'm currently studying the book since the '70's first read.
Analogies are and should be very loose when applying them to God and Man's relationship.
One of the problems I'm seeing is that he seems to give equal definition to pain and evil, sometimes substituting one word for another.
My general thoughts:
Evil should not be defined primarily as humanly bad things but rather more of choices and actions that God himself would not/could not choose due to his holiness. Anything outside the will of God for man is evil. Evil is like darkness, it's the absence of light.
God allows the expression of evil but is not dependent on it to accomplish his purposes. Evil does serve a unique role in that it automatically separates the sheep from the goats and condemns itself and its bearer as being outside the will of God in view of future judgment.
Pain, on the other hand, can be due to evil actions, non-evil willful acts, accidents and simply acts by and part of nature. Is it evil that humans are subject to forces that can cause pain or to even the ability to experience the pain itself?
When talking about pain, we need to further examine it to understand it's source and categorization. Not all pain is evil and not all evil is painful (at least in this life). Assuming that a good God would only allow good things to happen to his creatures is exactly that....an assumption. There is free will and autonomy in choices made in a mortal world and even good choices (non-evil) will bring pain and even suffering. I do not doubt that choices that humans make bring God pain and he suffers disappointment. The Bible speaks of that. We are made in his image, not he in ours, so I understand that God has a wide range of emotions, that even include humor.
Again, just general thoughts.
I agree, pain and evil are not the same, thank you for sharing your thoughts! As far as I remember C.S. Lewis never said that pain and evil are the same but I would be grateful if you could quote any passages.
Would you prefer it if I made my videos less of a summary and more of a review? 🙃
@@BiblicalBookworm He uses the two terms interchangeably from the little I've read. As I continue to read, I'll earmark the parts where he does (did) this, type them up and present them here.
Otherwise, make your videos the way YOU like. I may have expected a review but the summary was useful (for a general idea of what I'll be reading). Thanks.
A few weeks ago as promised I left here the quotes out of C.S. Lewis book where he equates pain and evil, without distinction. I know I left verifiable pages or direct quotes, unfortunately they are no longer in this thread. I'm saddened by their disappearance as I have to re-read the chapters and collect the thoughts again. This time I will save the response before I post it. I shall return.
Thank you for this , where are you from ?? 🤔
Austria
@@BiblicalBookworm great to hear from young Catholics in Austria. God bless your work it’s very good . From Ireland 🇮🇪
Nice video
😊
I've read this book, all be it, quite some years ago and was completely baffled about what C.S.Lewis was on about, except that he was a total twat who would join the argument about about the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin. Love and peace, Terence, XXX.
I don't even remember that argument from the book 😂😅
Congratulations on your 10K subscribers. But we all know who we should be following; Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I follow Jesus Christ, Don't follow me, follow him..
Thank you
Welcome!