The false starts, the glitches of the machines, and all..I love it. It made come back with resolve, and even here there are moments of brilliance. I will always love this period of them.
Joy Division & New Order you changed my life to better. 35 years has gone but the feeling is the same. I wish every teenager had the lucky to be introduced to this... a blindness that touches perfection but hurts just like anything else...
I was there as part of the crew. I remember Gillian reading the manual for the synthesizer. Obviously the one supplied was not a model she was used to. I probably supplied some of the sound gear.
01. Your Silent Face 00:00 02. Temptation 08:08 03. Dreams Never End 15:35 04. The Him 18:55 05. Leave Me Alone 23:50 06. In A Lonely Place 29:30 07. Hurt 35:05 08. Denial 42:35 09. Age Of Consent 47:25 10. Blue Monday 53:30 11. 5-8-6 1:03:10 (the recording is missing the first two verses)
Omfg!! Leave Me Alone live, absolutely divine, Dreams Never End great, but makes the point why Barney became singer, and then at the end complete Blue Monday-5-8-6! There's absolutely no doubt about the fact that New Order in 1982/1983 were the best band in the world!
hi you could be right there................but check out a live version new order barcelona 1984 blue mondays its a bout the fourth song along the sound is insane...............brilliant
@@whatdoidonow1996 And destroy it? @ My 2nd. gig Gillian apologised, saying 'The tape machines have broke' swiftly followed by an extra blast of dry ice. That's not Rock n Roll, it's art!: just ask Barney and he will tell you the same
Those are some great songs. Love this version of "Your Silent Face". "Blue Monday" and "586". Early incarnations of both. "Blue Monday" wasn't even released yet. This was the only way you could hear it.
I'm a little late to the party but this concert audio is exciting to hear i can only imagine this being played at a gay club in S F around this time ! as a straight man that had a theater major girlfriend these clubs were our choice for date night as the music was always cutting edge and this DEFINITELY fits the bill especially the last song that could go all night and still be too short thank you for the upload 😊
Amazing stuff! Somewhere along Blue Monday Barney seems to sing "We all need our heroes / to show us where to go". Sad that they eventually ended up leaving that part out of the recorded version of the song.
I've played this a few times over the years,but yesterday it was announced NO were releasing another live album (Boring,leave that to Hooky and The Light - they are the masters of live performance),so decided to listen to this gig again. I was at The Mainstreet gig in Auckland a few days before this Wellington set,and there certainly was a different set list than this,and much shorter,and typical NO. But this has to be one of their best live gigs of the 80s. Excellent sound,and can't really fault any track here,apart from that slight glitch at the beginning of "Your Silent Face". But "Temptation","Age Of Consent" and especially "Blue Monday" have to be amongst the best versions the band has ever done. Now,if NO were to release this gig instead of the 2018 gig they're releasing (A big cash in as far as I'm concerned,no new tracks),then I'd definitely buy the album. This is awesome,for the fact alone of a pre-yelping/whistling Barney,which has ruined NO gigs for a very long time now.
Barney seems to have cut back on the whoops and yells thank goodness! Still prefer 3/4 of NO than 1/4, but Hook at Christ Church was a great gig (especially when Rowetta was doing the vocals rather than Hooky!)
@@rl3799 That Christ Church performance was awesome,loved Rowettas vocals there,and yeah Hookys vocals can be dodgy at times,only on the NO tracks - he should let Pottsy handle those as his vocals are a similar timbre to Bernards.I still prefer Hooky and The Light over NO live,they really give value for your money (I'll be seeing them again November),but yeah,Bernards whoops and yelps irritated me,and his vocals have really suffered now. They really need to do another studio album,as I think that's where they're at their best - live not so much. Hooky needs to get into the studio and start doing some new material too. They previewed a new Monaco song early last year,it was brilliant, but haven't heard anything since.
Forty years ago today (6 December, 1982) I was at New Order's first Wellington gig at Victoria University. They played the whole of "Movement" plus one song I did not recognise.🙂
@@shanemcdowall So they had already played Wellington prior to this gig? Where was that? I have a memory of "Movement" concert poll posters around Brooklyn when I was in my last year of primary school (1981), but I wasn't sure ...
Yes I was there, or it may have been the earlier Vic Uni gig on the 6th (?) - traveled down with 7th form mates from Palmy North. Still have photos somewhere, and I remember having the audience bootleg which was a lot nosier, The Stones from Dunedin were great in support, and John Cooper Clarke a real introduction to punk poetry.
Well, they actually produced Blue Monday and Power, Corruption and Lies all by themselves. There was no producer. That's what makes that stuff even more unbelievable.
I was there friends in wellington DEc 83' iin the N.O at the tender age of 19; they were hopelessly late' after John Cooper Clarke blew the set away/ with his rustic Manc' assent' and famously slurry double play on poetry. Fuck I laughed until I stopped!! Though to be honest N.O played al shit load of song from Power Corruption and Lies at which had never been released, Not even Blue Monday kids. And here I am in2022 listening to this like it was the first time. OH how time passes and NOT the last time!!
OMG sounds like there's about twenty people there! They sound Fantastic! Can always tell Gilbert leading and Them following.. and that's not in a Bad way either!
Really fascinating. They play from Movement and the not-yet-released PC+L. And a bit of JD thrown in there too. I wonder how much of PC+L they had recorded before this gig (album wasn't out in Ireland until 5 months later). Dunno if it's just because it is live, but Hooky's bass on the recorded version of Leave me Alone seems more layered and interesting than what is played here. Or maybe I am just imagining it :-). Nice post mate.
Thanks. I really love their 1982-83 gigs. As you said, some PC+L were tested live at an early stage (see the June 1982 Peel Session as well) and sometimes it feels as if they were fighting against their own machines.
In fact they fighted with their machines...there's a vídeo about the construction of Blue Monday which Bernard explain their fight to make a interface functional between the sequeencers and drums...or something like that.
Brotherhood had a few...the last one i own. i saw them in 87 and it was 90% electro-dance...if only id seen them do leave me alone, lonesome tonight...and i really wish Low Life had more of a love vigilantes feel. if you crave cool new bands, check out the band LowLife. lp Dogging is a must and the two since then are even better.
Saw both nights at Victoria University Student Union, Wellington. Second night I got in free after trying to kill myself by attempting to climb up down pipe to the toilets. As there was hardly anyone inside that night the security just ended up letting anyone outside in.
According to Hooky’s book, he’s got the band in Wellington on Dec 6. Dec 8 was Christchurch. We can’t know for sure whether the date is wrong on this vid.
age of concent is a bit of a mess unfortunatly but blue monday and 586 is probably the best versions ever ( even though the latter is missing a part of the begining )
Agreed, JCC stole the evening. Including the combined Velvets cover as an encore. Selinas was a lot better. Manly Vale was a very dark set. Not doing an encore didn't enamour them with the locals :)
+Grey Mouser I saw them at Selinas on the subsequent tour they did in 86 . I remember it was the 18th May and there was the expectation there would be some sort of Curtis tribute - they dedicated a song to Elvis Presley . They were pretty sloppy that night as well.
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The false starts, the glitches of the machines, and all..I love it. It made come back with resolve, and even here there are moments of brilliance. I will always love this period of them.
Went to this gig, aged 17. Had a piss in the toilet, who was there, but John Cooper Clark. Good times. Got into the soundcheck as well.
Joy Division & New Order you changed my life to better. 35 years has gone but the feeling is the same. I wish every teenager had the lucky to be introduced to this... a blindness that touches perfection but hurts just like anything else...
I was there as part of the crew. I remember Gillian reading the manual for the synthesizer. Obviously the one supplied was not a model she was used to. I probably supplied some of the sound gear.
01. Your Silent Face 00:00
02. Temptation 08:08
03. Dreams Never End 15:35
04. The Him 18:55
05. Leave Me Alone 23:50
06. In A Lonely Place 29:30
07. Hurt 35:05
08. Denial 42:35
09. Age Of Consent 47:25
10. Blue Monday 53:30
11. 5-8-6 1:03:10 (the recording is missing the first two verses)
Thank you so much
I'm listening to this New Order concert THIRTY FIVE YEAERS to the night it happened.....Dec.8 2017...I was 18 then...53 now !!! LOVE NEW ORDER....
16 years i have, love new order
how did they sound it live? any good? cheers
Omfg!! Leave Me Alone live, absolutely divine, Dreams Never End great, but makes the point why Barney became singer, and then at the end complete Blue Monday-5-8-6! There's absolutely no doubt about the fact that New Order in 1982/1983 were the best band in the world!
No doubt about that indeed ! :-)
Power Corruption and Lies was their best album. Period.
This may be my single favorite rendition of Blue Monday ever recorded.
mrdisco
Agree 100%..insane rendition..before release.
it's a fucking stormer....is it not???
Couldn't agree more
well said... it wasn't a single at that stage ... little did we know what we were witnessing!
hi you could be right there................but check out a live version new order barcelona 1984 blue mondays its a bout the fourth song along the sound is insane...............brilliant
love they played these songs that they never play anymore like-the him, leave me alone, in a lonely place because they're so underated
I was at this concert. I was 15, not quite the Age of Consent!
Thanks for posting! Great memory :)
Probably the best new order live performance I have ever heard.
I love to hear them live in between their first two albums.
Movement and the EPs still sound fresh and the unreleased songs are always uncut diamonds
thanks for your post. I do also love their 1982-83 concerts. Sometimes, it seems that machines do take control of the music ! :-)
@@whatdoidonow1996 And destroy it? @ My 2nd. gig Gillian apologised, saying 'The tape machines have broke' swiftly followed by an extra blast of dry ice. That's not Rock n Roll, it's art!: just ask Barney and he will tell you the same
love early New Order....
Those are some great songs. Love this version of "Your Silent Face". "Blue Monday" and "586". Early incarnations of both. "Blue Monday" wasn't even released yet. This was the only way you could hear it.
"we all need our heroes, to show us where to go"
That version of Temptation is probably the best I've ever heard. And great to hear Leave Me Alone live as well. Thanks for sharing.
+Tim Russell Wow, you're not kidding. They are ON FIRE. Hooky's trademark bum notes never sounded so RIGHT!
The BEST concert if new order uploaded on UA-cam
Well, the Belgium one is quite fanstastic, too: ua-cam.com/video/CLZ53BmgD5A/v-deo.html
Omg Blue Monday, 40 years old and still sounds like it was transmitted by aliens from the future.
I'm a little late to the party but this concert audio is exciting to hear i can only imagine this being played at a gay club in S F around this time ! as a straight man that had a theater major girlfriend these clubs were our choice for date night as the music was always cutting edge and this DEFINITELY fits the bill especially the last song that could go all night and still be too short thank you for the upload 😊
Amazing stuff! Somewhere along Blue Monday Barney seems to sing "We all need our heroes / to show us where to go". Sad that they eventually ended up leaving that part out of the recorded version of the song.
Agreed. I loved to hear this early version. The verse was great!
often in the producers hands
@@DaveAnchovies As in their own hands then 😉
I've played this a few times over the years,but yesterday it was announced NO were releasing another live album (Boring,leave that to Hooky and The Light - they are the masters of live performance),so decided to listen to this gig again. I was at The Mainstreet gig in Auckland a few days before this Wellington set,and there certainly was a different set list than this,and much shorter,and typical NO. But this has to be one of their best live gigs of the 80s. Excellent sound,and can't really fault any track here,apart from that slight glitch at the beginning of "Your Silent Face". But "Temptation","Age Of Consent" and especially "Blue Monday" have to be amongst the best versions the band has ever done. Now,if NO were to release this gig instead of the 2018 gig they're releasing (A big cash in as far as I'm concerned,no new tracks),then I'd definitely buy the album. This is awesome,for the fact alone of a pre-yelping/whistling Barney,which has ruined NO gigs for a very long time now.
Barney seems to have cut back on the whoops and yells thank goodness! Still prefer 3/4 of NO than 1/4, but Hook at Christ Church was a great gig (especially when Rowetta was doing the vocals rather than Hooky!)
@@rl3799 That Christ Church performance was awesome,loved Rowettas vocals there,and yeah Hookys vocals can be dodgy at times,only on the NO tracks - he should let Pottsy handle those as his vocals are a similar timbre to Bernards.I still prefer Hooky and The Light over NO live,they really give value for your money (I'll be seeing them again November),but yeah,Bernards whoops and yelps irritated me,and his vocals have really suffered now. They really need to do another studio album,as I think that's where they're at their best - live not so much. Hooky needs to get into the studio and start doing some new material too. They previewed a new Monaco song early last year,it was brilliant,
but haven't heard anything since.
The Him.. Beautiful song.. Great recording this 👌👌...
Wow. Top to bottom, this has to be the best I've heard from this era. Thanks for posting.
The pleasure is mine. My fave NO concerts are from the 82-83 era.
Quelle version de " In a lonely place " ! Grandiose. RIP Ian.
Damn, what a clean bootleg. Thanks!
'F**kin hear a word your saying , If you dont like it you may as well f##k off , not doin us any favours'
Classic Barney..new order at their best
Blue Mondays on this is from another place. Oh my god.
I believe the name of the bootleg was called "Radio Order" I purchased the cassette in Auckland NZ back in the day.
Forty years ago today (6 December, 1982) I was at New Order's first Wellington gig at Victoria University. They played the whole of "Movement" plus one song I did not recognise.🙂
I went to the Auckland one (Gluepot?)
@@wallisphoto I think it was Mainstreet. Peter Hook has put out two books. John Cooper Clarke was the support act.
Blue Monday restera l'un des marqueurs des années 80....à jamais ...
Marqueur fluo carrément
Thanks so much for posting! I was there as a 21 year old... legendary gig... think i was still in the thrall of JD at the time :-)
Lucky you ! It must have been awesome being at this gig !
@@whatdoidonow1996 I was at their first Wellington gig. They played the whole of "Movement" plus one song I did not recognise.
@@shanemcdowall So they had already played Wellington prior to this gig? Where was that? I have a memory of "Movement" concert poll posters around Brooklyn when I was in my last year of primary school (1981), but I wasn't sure ...
@@Brynstar Gig I was at December 6, 1982. Wednesday. They played a second gig two days later. This info is in Hooky's book.
Superb sound quality..great to have this.thank U.
Fantastic gig. Love the BM and 5 8 6, in particular.
Band meant so much to me in my youth.
A super group for sure. Every young person I tell about JD/NO says that they're awesome.
Yes I was there, or it may have been the earlier Vic Uni gig on the 6th (?) - traveled down with 7th form mates from Palmy North. Still have photos somewhere, and I remember having the audience bootleg which was a lot nosier, The Stones from Dunedin were great in support, and John Cooper Clarke a real introduction to punk poetry.
Best version of Blue Monday IMO
Stephen, damn a machine!
On my way to Madison Square Garden tonight. Pet Shop Boys and New Order!!
NO were playing live, 80%, the massive hit of the decade. The producer found no difficulty to record. Absolutely ingreditable and brilliant.
Blue Monday.
Well, they actually produced Blue Monday and Power, Corruption and Lies all by themselves. There was no producer. That's what makes that stuff even more unbelievable.
Thanks for that.I saw the posters,had to wait until the Brotherhood Concert to see them in Wellngton
This whole show sounds incredible. Barney’s voice is great here
Damm blue monday sounds amazing
Yeah it does!
Best live version I've ever heard
@@Farooq_Bhai_ couldn't agree more!
Thanks. Yes, I do also think it is one of their best.
This is absolutely perfectly...
I was there friends in wellington DEc 83' iin the N.O at the tender age of 19; they were hopelessly late' after John Cooper Clarke blew the set away/ with his rustic Manc' assent' and famously slurry double play on poetry. Fuck I laughed until I stopped!! Though to be honest N.O played al shit load of song from Power Corruption and Lies at which had never been released, Not even Blue Monday kids. And here I am in2022 listening to this like it was the first time. OH how time passes and NOT the last time!!
tears of joy - thank you for posting!
Very good New order live!
OMG sounds like there's about twenty people there! They sound Fantastic! Can always tell Gilbert leading and Them following.. and that's not in a Bad way either!
Best audio!
Love that wash out on Blue Monday!!
Great stuff, thank you!
Really fascinating. They play from Movement and the not-yet-released PC+L. And a bit of JD thrown in there too. I wonder how much of PC+L they had recorded before this gig (album wasn't out in Ireland until 5 months later). Dunno if it's just because it is live, but Hooky's bass on the recorded version of Leave me Alone seems more layered and interesting than what is played here. Or maybe I am just imagining it :-). Nice post mate.
Thanks. I really love their 1982-83 gigs. As you said, some PC+L were tested live at an early stage (see the June 1982 Peel Session as well) and sometimes it feels as if they were fighting against their own machines.
In fact they fighted with their machines...there's a vídeo about the construction of Blue Monday which Bernard explain their fight to make a interface functional between the sequeencers and drums...or something like that.
Would have been mind blowing hearing blue Monday in that crowd I bet
love early New Order best....up until Lowlife...!!!!
Brotherhood had a few...the last one i own. i saw them in 87 and it was 90% electro-dance...if only id seen them do leave me alone, lonesome tonight...and i really wish Low Life had more of a love vigilantes feel. if you crave cool new bands, check out the band LowLife. lp Dogging is a must and the two since then are even better.
Anyone wanting to check out a really ragged New Order should listen to the Canterbury Court, Perth 1985 bootleg. It's so hilariously bad it's great !
Where can I watch this, man?
@@camilouseche598 No video. DAT audio bootleg from soundboard. Some tracks are on youtube, whole gig easy to find in FLAC if you google it.
Longest 586 ive ever heard! Goes on fer yonks!
Insane tempo on Denial
Dis Order
Supremo material 😎💪💪💪
CLASSIC NEW ORDER....
Saw both nights at Victoria University Student Union, Wellington. Second night I got in free after trying to kill myself by attempting to climb up down pipe to the toilets. As there was hardly anyone inside that night the security just ended up letting anyone outside in.
The early 80s must have been a great time to be a young music fan.
That would have been do cool to see EARLY New Order in concert...
According to Hooky’s book, he’s got the band in Wellington on Dec 6. Dec 8 was Christchurch. We can’t know for sure whether the date is wrong on this vid.
I was at their first Wellington gig. They played the whole of "Movement" plus one song I did not recognise.
early new order hits different
age of concent is a bit of a mess unfortunatly
but blue monday and 586 is probably the best versions ever ( even though the latter is missing a part of the begining )
Also, what is your audio source for this? This is far cleaner than mine; did you do some remastering yourself?
Wow...Blue Monday sounds amazing...
E bom demais!!!!!
Wadzat a fogging sound?!? Oh okay, New Order again. They're forgiven!
sure beats the shite out of "village people" on the discofloor....
RESET THE VOYETRA!
seldom do they play 'leave me alone' live.
This version of BM… goodness. Someone should try to recreate it clean lol.
It's already quite clean on the 12''', so I'm fine, thanks.
No t'ing à la NO both live &IN TUNE
Wait, 1:20:00? You mean they actually played for over an hour? wow.
💘
Blue monday starts at around 54:58
The day after I was born.
😍 😍 😍
57:26 Yeet!
In their early days New Order were a bit dodgy as a live band. They got better obviously. Piss off
i saw them play in Sydney on this tour, they were a mess. John Cooper Clarke was the opening act, he was much better.
+Nathan Parsons lol
Agreed, JCC stole the evening. Including the combined Velvets cover as an encore. Selinas was a lot better. Manly Vale was a very dark set. Not doing an encore didn't enamour them with the locals :)
+Grey Mouser I saw them at Selinas on the subsequent tour they did in 86 . I remember it was the 18th May and there was the expectation there would be some sort of Curtis tribute - they dedicated a song to Elvis Presley . They were pretty sloppy that night as well.
They'd obviously hit their stride by the time they got to NZ cozy this sounds great. Excellent version of Temptation.
Seem to remember they did NZ after the Capitol and then returned Sydney. 18th of May '85 ;) Great Nights and Daze :)