1997 Pentium 200 MMX PC meets 3dfx Voodoo 4400H/4440(custom 2024 design with HDMI/8MB/ 2xTMU)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Let's check the 3dfx effect using a 1997 PC with Windows 95 and 2 custom made 3dfx Voodoo 1 cards (SST-1) Voodoo 4400H 8MB/HDMI and Voodoo 4440H with 2xTMU.
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Wow those new Voodoo cards look amazing.
Had no idea people were making custom Voodoo cards, cool!
I'm glad that 3DFX made so many spare chips, back when they did. Since they only essentially invented a single infinitely-scalable processor, their only plan was to keep increasing chip counts and miniaturizing, without updating the key architecture. That's why they immediately fell behind, on the shader updates. While competition rewrote texture routines, their chips could only go faster, but not do new things. I have a ton of Voodoo's, with 5500 being the highest. I'm cooling off on retro, since spare time is always in short supply, but I'll still watch videos of people trying things with their 3DFX chips. I hope my 5500 lasts. I can reflow chips, but I hate doing it, since there is always a chance of something going wrong, especially with IC's that big. $700+ may seem like a high price tag for a prebuilt product, but what you're buying is the guarantee that some solder bridge you didn't notice, when building your own thing, doesn't take out your GPU and your motherboard along with it. I'm a professional, and still, any time I can save a few hours and get a pre-tested build, I'll go for it, no matter the cost. I don't want risk. I want the end product.
Yep - the amount of 3dfx spare chips circling around the internet amazes me. From the original up to V5 - anyone with a certain degree can redesign, revamp and even resell these. I just wish there where models released with faster memory, perhaps binned chips.
"since spare time is always in short supply" this, and it feels like it gets worse as I get older. I have a mountain of old hardware I never get to enjoy. Those newly built Voodoos are very appealing. I still have my original Voodoo 2 from 1998 along with the 200MMX. I bought a bunch more Voodoo hardware off ebay 15 years ago before the "vintage computing" category made all the prices shoot up.
I don't think is made with spare chips, just some hot air & a bad Voodoo 1 card.
@@Vile-Flesh You could instead of wasting your time on a daily basis on UA-cam just jump into it.
Couldn’t afford one back then, looks like I still can’t!
My dream card when i was teenager. I had no money for 3dfx card.
I had one in December 1998 but I was kinda late to the 3dfx party, in 1999 Voodoo 1 was already obsolete. Only id Software games were playable.
I do own Diamond 3d Voodoo 1 when it appear on the market. That was an revelation when i saw it in action ! That was an good, old days !
I had a Pentium 233 in 1997 and an S3 Virge video card. Meanwhile, a friend of mine had a Pentium 75 + Voodoo 1 card - and he was showing me GLQuake on his PC... and I was like: "Aaaaaaaaa..." Bottom line - he was having a better gaming experience, at least in Quake because that P75 was no fun with titles like Quake 2 or Unreal...
for 1998 we overclock our pentium mmx to 291mhz (3.5 x 83), ok...or more realistic 266mhz (3.5 x 75) 😁
Why not a K6-2/2+ or P2 instead?
@@TheRetroRaven mainly continuity with the system he has here. i got the vibe he was doing a specific year retrospective.
k6-2 is interesting but they were too new to be dirt cheap in 98 and the mendocino celeron smoked it badly that summer. by 2000 the vanilla k6-2s were $30-40 from resellers so it was a great move then if you still had socket 7
@@infinity2z3r07 I have to disagree. The only Celeron that smoked anything , was the Slot 1, Celeron 300A, rest didn't smoke anything.
As for the K6-2's , in 1998 , they were cheaper than both Pentium MMX and Pentium 2.
In 2000, the K6-2's were obsolete, either you had a Pentium 3 , or an AMD Duron/Athlon (depending on your budget, where the Duron was the cheapest deal for gamers on a budget).
Celeron 300a @ 450!
@@TheRetroRaven not gonna argue. but that's why i said mendocino ($150 300a august 98) not covington (cacheless p2 at 233, 266, 300). k6-2 being any cheaper than the 166 or 200 mmx is not in my memory...the 233 maybe
That Thing L00ks Freaking Sick!
One thing I really like about the 3dfx version of NFS2 is the water splash effect which is missing in software mode.
Oh yeah...! By the way, NFS II it' a Glide only title.
It will be interesting to see where this build goes :D
Well, this build in action, part II: >> ua-cam.com/video/JsQ1UpWBXqU/v-deo.html
*grabs lotion*
Go on...
Oh yeah, make my day...
I remember pulling the trigger on a voodoo 1 back in 1998 with 6mb of vram. Unfortunately the card did not work, 3dfx GPU and ( can't remember the 2d chip on it, alliance semiconductor? ) both 2d and 3d chips were seperate and incompatible, leading to a defective line of voodoo 1 cards. Did not know this at the time of purchase and could not get a refund for whatever reason. Kept using the diamond monster 3dfx card with 4mb ram. That was a good solid card!
A Voodoo 1 in 1998 still was a enjoyable pick for 3D acceleration. Going from 320x240 software rendering (almost Minecraft style graphics...) to 640x480 with smooth textures and double FPS was a great experience...
With Voodoo 1, some games support 512x384, which gives you a bit better performance compared to 640x480 and with very little loss in "fidelity" (graphics).
I recommend trying the original retail release of Unreal (not Unreal Gold which uses the more demand and upgraded engine from Unreal Tournament).
Enjoy!
Yes, the only inconvenient with these HDMI Voodoo cards is that 512x384 is not a standard HDMI resolution so 512x384 most likely will display a blank screen over HDMI. Meanwhile, I managed to use the HDMI output with the help a cheap HDMI to USB adapter... And it looks good.
I bet that thing really opens up with a faster CPU
The Voodoo 2 architecture really does.
I really like the idea. I wish the price was a little lower but hey, it's free market. There are some Adlib/GUS sound cards the same way. They are also very pricey. Maybe at some point we will have the same for motherboards.
These are the pricey custom Voodoo cards mentioned in the video: www.zxc64.com/shamans/ For motherboards... we still can buy industrial ATX motherboards with lots of PCI slots using the latest Intel chipsets. I really need more PCI slots on my main PC so I guess I will pick some industrial motherboard for my future build.
I love This new retromod computer hardware Next a 3do m2 Fpga and indy devs Sega Sat or Sony ps1 with more ram. Today it feels like the world is running out of Smart people i hope more of this resto mod happens.
Very interesting video, like!
I love these voodoo videos! I need to use mine again
this is incredible !
Thanks a lot for this video !!
I'm honestly curious just how little power this combination would use if manufactured on a modern process
One of these days I'll get my pair of Voodoo2s back to wrk 😅
"Being a single-slot card, the 3dfx Voodoo Graphics 4 MB does not require any additional power connector, its power draw is rated at *15 W maximum*..." this the whole card - the main chips were manufactured @500nm. At 5nm the power draw should be under 1W while running at the original clock speed. (50Mhz)
You should have given a mop warning before the start of the video because now I have drool all over the floor! 🤤
My guess is that this card would retail for at least 500$ considering that 2x King Shaman Voodoo 1 are 800$ but without FPGA chip for the HDMI output, so I kinda start undrolling... :)))
Oh no! Indeed... these Voodoo cards in black finish are looking amazing. Daniel, the dude behind sdz-mods.com, said that he ordered aluminum black brackets... and everything will look even fancier...
Because you're a gay, that's obvious
@@O_mores I should get the samples next week or so. They're made from steel, and come with two different finishes, one standard nickel plated, and one powder coated, matte black.
Need to see Unreal castle flyby timedemo compared to a regular voodoo 1
Voodoo 1 really struggles with Unreal, a second TMU doesn't make much of a difference. I will post some footage in my next video, I was able to get HDMI output using a cheap HDMI to USB adapter.
128MB of RAM? Isn't it making the machine slower? Is all of it cached by motherboard's L2 cache?
I run my pentium machines with 256MB of RAM, but have 196MB ramdisk on the top part of RAM.
64 was high for the time. I upgraded my Pentium II to 192 but that was years later, circa 2003.
@@rsmith02 true, 64MB is plenty for a pentium. But at least all of it is properly cached and therefore running without hitches or slowdowns.
@@GigAHerZ64 32 MB in 1997 was like 16GB today. Standard was 16MB.
In 1997 RAM prices dropped dramatically. A 32MB SIMM went from ~500$ in 1996 to about ~$120 in 1997. Even so 128MB RAM was about 500$, so no one was in a hurry to spend like 1000$ to have 256MB in 1997.
9:33 use 512x384 for Voodoo 1 to maximum fps ;)
Thx
i have at home the pentium mmx233 mhz with some 4x 8mb rimm memory and sdram 32mb, but mobo died..
Rambus in-line memory module (RIMM) wasn't a thing for socket 7 motherboards. You must have 4 x 8 SIMM slots. Sorry for your mobo. Fortunately socket 7 motherboards are still cheap to buy.
arata bestial de frumos PV-urile!! tu, fiind inventiv...poate gasesti ceva si le vei conecta la intel 13 gen pt niste teste de distractie :)
Salut, am postat video-ul si am plecat de la calculator pentru o saptamana... :) Problema cu Voodoo 1 e ca nu merge pe procesoare foarte rapide. Adica il instalezi fara probleme - dar jocurile nu pot intializa placa cum trebuie - apar doar niste patratele pe ecran sau niste artefacte. E un bug ceva in driver care nu s-a corectat nici pina azi. Tipul care a facut placile a zis ca e safe pina la 600Mhz, dar in general merge pina la 1Ghz.
Use cpu scaling for better experience. Period correctvis waste of 3d acceleration, for example voodoo2 sli on what pentium II 450 ? Sli scales up nicely to 1ghz. How much did you spend on pimped voodoo1?
Voodoo 1... actually won't initialize if the CPU is too fast. Under 1Ghz is safe. This is not my Voodoo 1, it's from sdz-mods.com. Lucky for me... Daniel, the dude behind sdz-mods, lives relatively close (300KM) so I was able to get both Voodoos and the PCI to AGP adapter. And I should get a PCI-E to AGP adapter soon.
Can these custom made 3dfx Voodoo 1 cards run Diablo II: Lord of Destruction in 3dfx Glide mode correctly?
I should check tonight. Diablo II + LOD is about 2GB. This is quite big for my Pentium 200MMX storage setup. Anyway I will delete some games to make space....
i bet the fpga doing the hdmi is as powerful as one fbi + tmu (or two tmus)
wet dream of so many revival ... q3 on 30 fps in glide is still better than any other (sorry rtx or remaster ur simply not the ORIGINAL)
Before the dark ages...before nvidia 😅
Can it run Resident Evil 1 OG???
It should work since it's Glide compatible title. And a Voodoo 1 must be the most compatible card. (I saw that there are some problems with later 3dfx cards. There is a Voodoo 2 patch though) I'm downloading the game right now and I'll give it a try later...