49cc Ruckus Scooter breaks 50MPH! Unboxing and Installing the Polini Variator
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Look what arrived today. Polini Overdrive Variator for the Honda Ruckus 50cc. Made in Italy and in my opinion, the best aftermarket variator available on the market for the bike. Only took 5 minutes to install from start to finish. Instantly got more top speed, better acceleration (with the lighter roller weights), and lower RPMs at VMAX right out of the box. In fact, with this mod (and a few others), my Ruckus/Zoomer officially joins the 50mph club on flats today at a vmax of 51.4mph. With the taller gearing, however, lighter weights are needed to move the RPMs up for even better acceleration.
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This comment made my day. Hope you enjoyed it.
i installed it on my CPI GTR....granted i have a 70cc swap but it definitely made a difference.
Yes in most cases, the polini variator will outperform a stock one giving you both a "Lower" gear for better acceleration and a "higher" gear for additional top speed!
Very cool..
Just got my coil, my CDI, and my Polini variator...
Good stuff, let me know how it goes. Certain CDI's might fry the kill switch button. I wired mine differently in a way that it hasn't so far, knock on wood. Make sure you google that.
Wow! That looked so easy.
It really is!
so reading your comments, you think if I change just the variator weights I can see improved performance? I'm 135lbs, I want a little more acceleration while still hitting my top speed of 40-43mph. Right now I can hit 43mph with a stock ruckus at my weight.
A man of few words...ruckus mime.
Good video, I recently bought 05 metro2. I can usually get up to 30mph on flats but im trying to get more top speed. Should I go heavier or lighter roller weights?
Thank you
You're welcome
What the clutch support tool called when tightening the variator bolt ?
should i use light rollers or heavier rollers? i weigh 100 pounds heh. Thanks!
dumb question, but you did not have to get a big bore kit....that's pretty damn good. I am looking at an older Ruckus, listed on cl for 1000 bucks.
I haven't invested in a big bore yet! Depending on where you live the 49cc will do very well if tuned right. And if you go one step above and order the slide pc20 carb you are making nearly 2-stroke territory horsepower without even going to the big bore yet.
What were you getting before it? I only get 25mph, I have a fuel injected U.K Zoomer, it has a smaller spark plug than U.S Ruckus, and I gather Carbed U.S models go about 10mph quicker than ours with no mods, do you think I'd at least get 32mph with JUST this mod?
+CrustyBiker From my knowledge, the F.I Zoomers are speed restricted in their original form. In otherwords, your zoomer should exceed 30mph in stock form with the speed restrictions removed. That is why the polini variator was made in the first place for the EU marketed Honda Zoomers. Changing the variator alone and modifications to the transmission should definitely give you significantly more top speed even before you consider doing modifications to increase engine power.
+CrustyBiker To answer your other question, I was getting about 38mph stock on my 2005 Honda Ruckus. Installing the 2006 ECU allowed a higher rev limit bringing me to about 42mph. Installing the NCY CDI, lighter slider weights, K&N intake, and increasing jet size gave me the necessary power to exceed the stock variator's capacity (48mph at 10k RPM). After that, installing the polini variator took me to 50mph at a much safer RPM. The polini variator alone SHOULD get you more speed with the correct roller weights, granted you are not banging into the rev limiter (weights too light) or being bogged down (weights too heavy). The polini variator AND the polini CDI should guarantee you would hit 32mph or more for sure.
Sorry for the spam I'm getting about 42ish with a pipe and no other mods other then the bars and lowed seats and any recommendations?
+Kyle Gottschalk No need to apologize! Replied to your other comments below.
Which roller weight do I need to use if I’m 5.5 and weight 200 I’m trying to it make it go faster
Hey there I’m new to the ruckus scene. Can you help me out. Currently the ruckus does about 40. It has a intake that comes out of the carb instead of the stock box. Other than that it’s stock besides the lowered seat. What should I do to it next to hit about 47-48. I’m from wisconsin so it’s pretty flat up here in elevation. I weigh about 144.
For me, without modifying anything else - lighter roller weights and a rev limit de-restriction took me to 46mph. The rest of the top speed got there with alot of money. If you need 50mph all day, it is a lot more economical to install a gy6. When you're done with it, put the stock engine back in and you could sell the ruckus for a much better price for less miles on the oem engine.
Where did you order your items from? And about how much? Also with just a variator boosts it up to about 50ish?
+Kyle Gottschalk I ordered my variator from SCOOTERSWAPSHOP. They had a coupon going on and it worked out to be the cheapest price I could find for the variator. For the best top speed, the polini variator wins hands down. However, it depends on whether your engine's got enough power to push those top speed. I have many other mods to reach 50mph on flat roads (and rather quickly for a ruck too!)
+Kyle Gottschalk For starters, try 5.3G sliders weights (8$ on ebay) in your stock variator and NCY CDI. That alone will give you more top speed
No this upgrade will not get you anywhere near 50. You’ll reach 42 if you’re light and a flight better acceleration
@@FIFTYmilplease explain do you use stock belt ? Or polini belt , and which slider weights are you using ? Thanks for your vids bro
Nice! Hi, I would like to know what kind if single headlight you're sporting, and is it a diy bracket as well? Thank you
Yes it is a custom cafe racer headlight on a carbon fiber bracket. More information can be found here totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=1438&start=210
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hold that drill properly man my friend snapped his wrist like that just saying be careful mate. Also I'd like a video how to remove the air box and install cone air filter thanks subcribed :)
+kevin franko That is a good tip Kevin that I should probably add in the description. As I was only using a 7.2V drill (in the drill setting) it is ok. However, if you're using a more powerful drill you would definitely want to do this with both hands and on the torque limited setting (ie. not drill setting)
The ruck shop has a good UA-cam channel on all that
50 mph flats? Impressive, what weights and other mods you running?
+uploadmeful I have quite a few mods although some are meant for making the bike more responsive and funner to ride. The primary mods that I made for the necessary power and gearing were: K&N Intake, Short Intake snorkel, 78MJ, 2006 Carb Needle and Shim, Shortened Carb spring, Lightened flywheel, Lightened Clutch, JCR camshaft, 4.9G slider weights, and Polini variator w/ stock boss. Check out my other videos for a more detailed analysis of each modification.
@@FIFTYmil How much difference will a polini variator make on a stock ruckus?
@@TiemeHv yeah wondering same thing????
@Al Gonzales cdi removes rev limit
Nice video! Wondering if getting a CDI is required (in your opinion). I’m only trying to get to 45 max (ish), cruising at 40. Just bought a brand new Ruckus last weekend and don’t entirely want to mess with electrical stuff. Thinking of just getting a performance variator, clutch and weights, new exhaust and intake. I weigh 165 lbs. Thanks in advanced!
Trevor, I am assuming your ruckus is US model. In that case, a roller weight change alone (e.g 4.5-4.8g weights) to maintain the engine at approximately 8200-8500RPM should be sufficient achieving 42-44mph at/near sea level. A CDI would give you approximately 45-46mph over 9300-9500RPM. A polini variator would bring those speeds back down to a safer engine rpm approximately 8900-9200rpm provided that your engine is making enough power.
If you live at higher altitudes, you would probably want the engine to produce more power to achieve the same results. The polini variator itself didn't offer as much improvement in terms of cost-benefit ratio.
In my opinion, the ruckus was most responsive and saw significant the most improvement from roller weight change, intake & jetting, and CDI.
FIFTYmil thank you so much for the quick reply! And yes, USA. I live in Los Angeles in a somewhat hilly area. I really don’t want to mess with the rev limiter on this bike as I’m not trying to hit 50 mph (I say this now...). I think I’ll pull the trigger on dr.pulley weights and see what that gets me over the stock setup. Just so I’m reading this right though, you are saying the Polini variator decreases speed? Or it maintains the same speed at a different RPM?
@@chevahh87 Due to difference in design compared to OEM, particularly in the roller weight ramps, the polini appears to gear the transmission taller than the OEM 2005 and 2006 variators. That is, it lowers the overall rpm range for the same speed (ie. at 50mph while a stock variator may operate the engine at 11,000RPM, the polini variator would operate the engine at 10,500RPM, for example.) However, I do not have sufficient evidence or research to back up that claim as it could be due to other factors. You can see the difference between stock and polini variator in my other video.
FIFTYmil so, update. I purchased a trail vapor TTO tachometer and took it out to my testing grounds. I was able to hit 40-41ish mphs at ~8700 RPM. I live ~850ft above sea level and this speed was achieved on flat road. If I lighten the weights slightly bringing that RPM to its limit, would I really get any increase in mph? We are talking 200rpm. Also, when you installed the Polini variator, did you get an increase in acceleration and top speed with the same weights? Thanks
@@chevahh87 You're correct, in your case a change in roller weight would do little to give you extra top speed. You may consider changing tires as I am running Pirelli SL26 130 size both front and rear which gave me a slightly taller gearing.
However, in your case with the supplied information, I would install the polini variator first (which should lower your 41mph RPM,). At this point your engine may or may not have enough power to reach higher top speeds, and therefore I would decrease the roller weight. Dyno graphs have shown that more power can be made beyond 9000RPM, but it is entirely up to you whether you want to install a CDI. That combination should get you comfortably to 45mph. If not, you will have to consider tuning your engine for more power. I found that intake modification greatly enhanced power output for this particular engine.
I put this kit on a stock Ruckus and did not get any gains in speed on the flats. I lost power going up hill and reved out going down hill at 42mph. But with other mods to a bike it might help out more...
You see, if you fit a 6th gear to your current car with 5 gears I wouldn't expect any improvements also. The same applies here.
Follow my other documentaries on installing a tachometer and tuning your roller weight to maximize the amount of power your engine puts down into transmission and thereby into the rear wheels to make the best out of your polini variator.
FIFTYmil when you change gearing in any vehicle it should change the performance characteristics of the vehicle. Lower gear more torque less speed. Higher gear less torque more speed. The whole point of gearing is to be able to change performance characteristics of an engine to suit individual needs.
Correct if we were changing the entire ratio of a manual transmission or specifically just one gear in that manual transmission.
However, applying your assumption on the CVT transmission is incorrect. Simply changing from an oem to a polini variator isn't equivalent to "change gearing" at all. If you compare the stock variator to the polini, they are nearly identical, even their overall diameter. The only difference is 1) slightly more aggressive roller ramps (which, in your case, actually makes the engine perform worse because it appears you have the wrong roller weight setup), 2) A closer ramp cutout to crank (ie a lower gear but any benefit is offset by point 1), and 3) a higher cutout at the outer diameter of the roller ramps (ie. longer total ramp) which you can't make use of. Thus, based on those three differences, you did not see any gains at all as expected.
In contrast, your analogy would apply more to changing roller weights. As my other video shows, you might reap more out of a $6 roller weight change and get more of the desired improvements than changing the entire variator ($60+). ua-cam.com/video/d6oFSVqiles/v-deo.html
The kit I got from them came with the different rollers and springs I have tried many combinations on the stock Ruckus but in the end I see not improvement over the stock set up.(thanks for point 1,2,3) I think for this unit to work you need to Mod your Ruckus then use this to help out. My main point is just one. If you have a stock Ruckus this will not benefit you so spend you money on engine mods. But if you know of what setting with weights and springs works best on a stock Ruckus I would love to see that video and would try it out and give my feed back on it.
The polini variator was never intended for the US market in fact. It was designed for the Europe/UK fuel injected zoomer which came from Honda with a limited variator that only achieves 35km/h. I have been trying to educate the public to not dive straight into changing everything as scooter shops often tell you to. In most cases, as seen here, changing a $60 variator wouldn't achieve much improvement. Instead, a $6 change of roller weights would offer a much more significant improvement. I try to break down what each mod does - their benefits and disadvantage.
Depending on how much you weigh, if you're the same weight and living at the same level above sea level, I have found great success using 4.5-4.8g weight with CDI/rev limiter de-restriction. Dyno graphs have shown that more power can be made @ 10,000RPM beyond the rev limiter. Obviously there will be accelerated engine wear. After that, if you want more power I would suggest getting a slide carburetor and removing the airbox - but that will make the ruckus significantly less reliable/more difficult to start/poor low throttle useability.
Any mods after that I would seriously consider engine swap or a different scooter as it gets exponentially more expensive with diminished return.
Great video. What is the torque specifications for the variator nut?
I think it's 24 ft. lbs. from the workshop manual
cool vid! I got a stock Zoomer with aftermarket rollers I THINK, I bought it 2nd hand from somebody so I don't know precise what rollers they are.
Stock its only allowed to go 45kph, but I can reach about 50-55kph.
I wanna know how I can make my zoomer accelerate faster, I am not interested in a higher top speed...What to do?
Upgrading to sliders?
Use sliders or rollers?
If using ligher sliders or rollers, I might get better acceleration, but also an inevitable higher top speed?
Thx a lot man
To make your zoomer accelerate faster, you can 1) increase horsepower 2) tune your transmission so while it accelerates at the RPM where most horsepower is made 3) less significantly, stiffer clutch engagment springs will give you a more aggressive launch from standstill. Every engine is different in hp output so it's hard to tell but I tend to find that most of them make peak horsepower around 9800RPM-10,000RPM. It is a very good idea to invest in a $6 tachometer here (affiliate link: goo.gl/LC0oA3 ) and start tuning!
loose weight
I want to see it go !!!
Yes sir, I am almost done with setting up my helmet for video recording! Then I'll have a video posted up on the bikes
Okay. Lets do it !
+Sean Finkel I'll try my best Sean. Super super busy lately to ride the bikes
I meant for people taking shortcuts we have people with 110 cc bikes and 49cc tags. is this bike worth the money
Derek Boseley I am not in the position to judge or comment on what people do with their bikes but I just want to extract every last bit of power out of this engine. Quite an addicting hobby!
I need help my honda ruckus goes about 30 to 31 sometimes 33 stock i need to know what should i buy to get top speed my speedometer says it should hit 40 mph but it only hits 32 i need help
Get a $7 tachometer and tell me what RPM you see while accelerating and at top speed.
What are the torque specs for that bolt holding the variator and drive face?
+kohlllll
24 ft. lbs. Variator
29 ft lbs clutch
I’ve heard
36 for variator
40 for clutch
Not sure what manual says.
Can anyone confirm? Couple different specs in these comments?
I’m also installing on a ‘05 met 2. But don’t think it should make a difference.
Installing tomorrow and need to confirm.
Thanks
Where did you order this kit from? Thanks
I bought mine from affiliated link goo.gl/CSHnjx
FIFTYmil
affiliate link to where I bought the variator goo.gl/CSHnjx
So adding the Polini Variator helps breaks 50 mph with no other mods?
No, I have added quite a few mods.
it is and I understand I love scooters to man no problem be careful OK. is the rules a good bike for the money
Derek Boseley absolutely. I think it is one of the best looking scooters around with a great engine and technology. However it does lack a bit of power making it less practical than your typical choice of scooters
Hi,
Could you help me with something. I had to change my ruckus belt and I put everything back in place and now when I turn it on, standing on the "stand" the ruckus turns on but the back wheel is always turning and if I put the wheel to the floor, the ruckus turns off. Its like something is stuck and grabbing the wheel.
This makes it impossible to ride because as soon as I put the back wheel on the floor, it turns off.
What do you think could be the problem?. I opened it again and took off the parts and put it back again but ended with the same results.
Thanks.
Sounds to me like your clutch is permanently engaging.
I would take it apart again and inspect the clutch for anything jammed in place. Perhaps you installed the belt incorrectly on the clutch side. The belt should sit inside the clutch pulley (looks exactly like the variator) between the two faces. If you installed it anywhere else, the belt may come into contact with the clutch bell side which is connected to the rear wheel causing it to engage and spin at idle. Feel free to email me with pictures if you need further help!
Thanks. I will take it apart and see if I can detect anything wrong.
Pedro Gordinho Good luck Pedro and let me know if you find out what the problem was!
Is this the same as the metropolitan set up.
whats that tool called? the one you used to hold the variator still.
Variator holder tool or flywheel holder tool - this one in particular is the more pricey one from Japanese company Kitaco until I realized they are available for dirt cheap on eBay! Best of luck!
Just use an impact pops right off
Thank you so much for your video. My Polini Variator install was a breeze even for a novice. I did immediately notice my Ruckus acceleration is faster and I can go up hills faster than before. The only thing is my top speed on flat ground is still exactly what it was before stuck at 35MPH. I installed the NCY CDI a month ago and I installed the Variator yesterday. Other than that it is stock.
I used the 5.6 roller weight that came in the box. I'm 180 lbs. I'm thinking maybe the rev-limiter is still on and not letting me go past 35MPH. Is there a way to test that the CDI is working? Or do I have to disconnect the battery or reset something so the CDI knows about the variator upgrade? Thank You for any help in advance.
According to the workshop manual, if you have taken apart the carburetor position sensor, you must reset it by disconnecting the battery. However, that should have no relationship with the CDI.
To ensure that your CDI is installed properly, I would strongly suggest investing in a $6 tachometer (goo.gl/v4Vnie). You will need it in the future anyways for more tuning. Alternatively, if the engine is fully warmed up, I would put the ruckus on the center stand and rev it at full throttle. If you have an aftermarket exhaust, the rev limiter's sound is very noticeable. However, if your cdi was installed correctly, you run the risk of exceeding the safe RPM limits of the engine and risk catastrophic engine failure.
Ok. I just ordered the tach. Its a 2017 with only 500 miles. I installed CDI a month ago then the Pollini Varitor yesterday. With those 2 upgrades the top speed should be higher than 35mph when it was stock.
Just wondering what to do next to get higher top speed? Should I try the other 6.8 gram weights that came with it? Once I get the tach I will run at top speed and let you know the RPM.
When i weighed 180lbs, I only threw in 5.0g weights in a stock variator and my ruckus was hitting 44mph stock on the rev limiter. With the CDI, 4.8g weights and a polini variator (polini variator actually decreased accelearation), I was around 46mph. Removing the airbox and rejetting the carb I was around 48mph but much better acceleration. Notice how the top speed doesn't increase by much, but the 0-30mph improved dramatically.
I received the tach you recommended. So affordable and so easy to install. Do you know what the correct setting is for a 2017 Honda Ruckus. 02(once per revolution) or 03 every other revolution?
4 stroke engines are every other revolution if I remember correctly. With that being said, if you see 6000RPM at idling, then it is quite obvious I gave you the wrong setting!
I own a 2011 Ruckus and I'm srltuck at 40mph. I have roller weights, maybe heavy ones for torque(I got ahold of the scooter whith those changed already. I'm also running a 40 jet and 85 main jet. I also have a NCY rev limiter. I am not runny an exhaust since it broke off. What can i do? I will however change the belt for a polini one. Hopefully i will get a torque string.
Couple questions:
1) Why are you running a 40 and 85 jet?
2) What RPM do you see at 40mph?
3) What RPM do you see WOT moving from a standstill to 35mph?
FIFTYmil
I forgot to mention that I removed the stock air box and had to rejet them. As for the RPMs, i do not know since I have no equipment to check.
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Buy a $6 tach and all you have to do is wrap a wire around your spark plug coil on the outside. It will help you down the road. When you get the RPMs I asked about, get back to me!
i would legitalmently never let this dude work on anything of mine!
+Cole That's a valid point. I never trust anyone to work on my vehicles and frankly I am not a certified honda ruckus mechanic myself. Thanks for watching and please rate/subscribe. Cheers
Man my scooter chokes out at 43 you sure you hit fity? 😎 Im about to get that.
Keep me posted!
@@FIFTYmil i hit 41mph , i got a rollingwrench beastmode tuner im choking out 30 to 40 sluggish, i can bump up my fuel percentage at that point with the tuner. 😎
@@mrantone916 I would have thought that for an average 100-140lb rider a 08+ ruckus should be able to achieve 45mph stock?
Mine 41 grasp for air...lol
Any chance you could help me troubleshoot? I installed the ncy cdi first with no problems. A week later, i installed the polini variator with the 5.6 size weights. I made sure the rollers were facing the correct way. After installation, the bike tops at 15mph and sort of pulses and very sluggish, and wont accelerate further than 15. Any ideas?
2013 stock ruck with ncy cdi and polini upgrades. 130lbs rider in denver.
Pre polini top speed-42mph downhill.
jessie eggert seems to me something wasn't installed correctly with the variator?
I opened the throttle while observing the belt and variator. The belt seemed to ride all the way up the variator and you can hear it running well, but when i get on and ride it, its the 15mph.
Everything fit in place snug and slid on smoothly.
Cant figure it out.
jessie eggert and you are sure everything is tightened properly? I would install the stock variator back with the 5.7g weights and see if the problem persists. That would eliminate one of the three variables that you did to the bike
Pretty sure everything is tightened, it seemed like a pretty simple install.
I did put the stock parts back on, and the problem persists. Sorry to bother, Just dont want to take to mechanic, and the forums dont seem to respond.
Aggravating because everything seemed to install correctly. It shouldnt need any breaking in to this degree, i would think.
jessie eggert no worries Jessie I'm curious about your problem too. It sounds to me you bike can't upshift and that is related roller weights. Or perhaps you didn't install everything back correctly? Can you tell me if your kickstarter works?
Can this part be installed on a 49c TaoTao?
depends if it fits the crankshaft !
Can this be used on the 50cc engine and if so has it increased the performance and if so in what ways?
This polini variator is designed for the honda ruckus and other engines that have the same crankshaft spline (zoomer, metropolitan, jazz, scoopy, etc.) It increase performance as a whole kit in several ways 1) lighter roller weights and 2) a longer roller ramp which allows the belt to sit both lower at the lowest ratio and higher at the highest ratio offering both improved low speed acceleration and top speed maximum speed - provided your engine has enough power capable of handling those extra gearing ratios.
FIFTYmil thanks 🙏
FIFTYmil would it work on the 2018 Honda ruckus?
I believe so - from my knowledge the engine is not changed for the us/canadian models
@@FIFTYmil HI! great video! What do you mean by "provided your engine has enough power capable of handling those extra gearing ratios."? THX in advance!
I just bought a new 2017 Ruckus, If i want to make it go 50mph (80kmh or cruising speed around 70-75kmh) what is the most effective way to mod it in terms of price and labour?
For a 180lb rider and limited by 700m elevation I "cruise" (which is really WOT) at 70 kmh with just a $10 roller weight change, $15 jet and drilled airbox mod. Throw in a unlimited CDI to use extra power above the rev limiter and you're looking at 78-82km/h.
Thank you so much for the reply. I weigh 155lbs and live pretty much sea level. :)
Oh man in that case you can easily have an awesome performing ruck!
I am very new to a scooter world.. I tried to find some items that you mentioned.. If not much of a trouble, could you list or recommend me the items that you mentioned for Ruckus?
You can visit the affiliate links here:
5.5g weights (goo.gl/jU5jCl)
Tachometer (goo.gl/q7EQU0)
Polini variator (goo.gl/pZziSZ)
The above mods should tune your tranmission to operate at peak horsepower and give you the best acceleration and highest top speed, as limited by the power your engine makes and the rider's weight.
When you find that is not enough, then you might consider tuning the engine to extract more horsepower. For the ease of rideability I would recommend sticking with the stock carb. Even with the stock carb you can tune for moderately more power from the engine by providing more air and tuning the fueling with the correct jets.
Jet kit (goo.gl/IeH4Cl)
CDI (goo.gl/HZk0JR)
If you prefer to extract the MOST horsepower you might want to start looking into a slide carburetor to replace the original one and other more expensive engine modifications. At that point, the bang for buck you might just do an engine swap all together. The ruckus is, comparably, much slower than similarly priced 2-stroke scooters and that is an unfortunate a fact despite its cool looks.
what other mods do you have to help you get to 50mph?
+Mantis Reynolds
I find that modifying the intake / jetting the carb and changing the roller weights along with the polini variator to be the most effective mod to date in gaining top speed and acceleration. You will also need a CDI to de-restrict the engine RPM. Other mods I have include H.O Camshaft, Lightened Clutch bell, Lightened Flywheel, Lightened variator drive face, Shortened Variator drive boss, Polini Variator belt, and a few other mods - All of which really improved the engine response but didn't change the top speed that much relatively speaking in comparison.
+FIFTYmil thanks for replying, this is really helpful info.
Mantis Reynolds Let me know if you have any other questions!
losing weight is good
aw man... can you turn closed caption on? please ? thanks!
Hi Mitch. There weren’t any words. That’s why there wasn’t CC.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
What is the fastest possible engine I can put on my Ruckus? Thanks and epic video man!
A member of the forum installed a 600 GSX-R engine, and another installed a 600cc Silverwing engine. The easiest engine swap currently would be the gy6 150cc (after which you can overbore to 230+cc). You can check out the links in the description for more parts for the Ruckus
sweet< thanks and epic vids man.
Sulayman Khan thanks! Hope you will like the video and subscribe
yep i did
whats your weights size 5.6? and how u weigh?
weight is 160lb, roller weights are the standard honda ruckus size i believe 16mm? Currently using sliders in there.
thnx for that quick reply any way it made me lòok and see most of your up loads videos and most of them will give minimal gains in spèèd most will even make your bike slower if you want your bike to get faster make sure that clutch engage at the right time to coinside w the power band of your engine and if i made you feel bad its just as you said your title its misleading and i did watch this and your other vid lets just say watch it too and read the title again and tell me if this is not misleading sorry buts thats how i see this
I wouldn't exactly call 30mph top speed to nearly 60mph top speed minimal gains or making my bike slower. While it is a good idea to engage the clutch at a higher RPM near peak power, it is not practical for my application of daily riding to and from work as a commuter bike. In fact, in stop & go traffic as I have found repeated high RPM clutch engagement will lead to overheating and clutch fade.
Well if you are reaching that speed 60 mph then good for you any way my comment are not made to put you down or anything like that just hope that you tone down on catchy titles well i even want you to keep twicking your bike youll get there eventually keep wrenhing dude good luck
In my opinion it really boils down to personal opinion whether a title is catchy or not. Some finds it misleading while others doesn't. So if I make you happy and change my title, someone else would complain about the exact same thing. It is not my job to please the audience because if you don't like the video, don't visit my channel and don't watch my videos.
What's important is that none of my videos are misleading nor sponsored to sell parts. This channel reviews scooter parts with my honest opinionand provides instantaneous before/after feedback. I pay for my own parts and I document the change in hopes it might help someone who wants a slightly faster scooter without diving into a whole bunch of unnecessary mods that scooter mechanics often recommend - hoping to make a quick buck
Need to get rid of that ancient black and decker and get a dewalt impact !
Which model dewalt impact?
How do you know which weights to use I'm 150
You would know by getting a tachometer $6 to purchase, 2-5 minutes to install.
What is the torque in nm you put
Heni 643 20 foot lb for the variator nut if my memory is riht
What tool is that that you use to hold the variator when tightening? Where can I get one?
It is a kitaco branded variator tool but you can buy cheaper no-brand models here: goo.gl/QLTJYW
In my opinion branded and non-branded ones work almost identical if you are not affected by luxuries like rubber grip, better threads etc. For a variator tool, the difference in quality of the tool doesn't justify the extra cost as the purpose it serves is rather pedestrian.
should have sprung for an sr50, my brothers hit's 56mph (downhill).
Check out my other videos my 2-stroke hit 57mph on flats. Cheers!
Just got a 2014 ruckus that goes 38mph and doesn't have a polini variator. I owned 2 other 2014 ruckus' before with this mod and they went 48 mph.
Hi... did you ONLY upgrade the variator? THX in advance!
I find it odd that there are notches in the drive belt, but neither pulley in the transmission has notches...
+Chris Lawson The grooves allow the belt to conform to the continuously changing pulley ratios found in a CVT system. Hope that helps!
Is this the only mod that gave you the 50mph?
def not
No, the ruckus has gone through quite a lot of modification. However, the best ones that made the most improvement in terms of value would be lighter weight and cdi coupled with this polini variator.
Lighter weight? Meaning taking weight off the bike?
@@sidneyabernathy854 Sorry typo, I meant to say lighter roller weights.
2mm shims.....
Looks like you had some parts left over.
+jtjjbannie
That's correct. The variator comes with roller weights. As I was already using lighter slider weights in my OEM variator, I wanted to test the effects of JUST the variator by keeping the weights the same. Therefore I left the polini roller weights untouched (and still is.) In fact, if you want them let me know ;)
Sean Turpin Sorry Sean somebody else read the comments and took them already :/
Ok! So what else did you change to hit the 50 mph?
For the Honda Ruckus, it has the 2008 ECU, NCY CDI, High output camshaft, 4 Octane fuel, polini variator, Dr. Pulley 4.8g weights, Polini Drive belt, Custom lightened and sand blasted clutch bell, Custom Lightened Flywheel, Carburetor re-tuned, K&N Cone air filter, lightened/lowered seat frame, lowered handlebars, Headlight cage removal, Pirelli Performance SL26 tires (with larger profile), Custom ventilated drive cover. In summary, weight reduction, drag reduction, increase engine power, retuned gearing.
amazing work but be abit more patient with the bolts you might cross em
Thank you for the tip!
And how could you change the rev limiter on a 09 ruck?
+Kyle Gottschalk NCY CDI work. Got mine super cheap on the used forum. All the how-to's tell you that you will lose your kill switch function but I looked at the schematic and wired it differently so everything works just as good as stock
I can’t wait till my poly variator comes from TheRUCK SHOP!! I got a variator kit from rolling wrench 🔧 But it was fucked up in the boss got hammered inside the variator itself. For technical support they expect you to pay $100 an hour prepaid over the phone tech support. I will never buy from rollingwrench again!! What a bunch of fuckers. Just saying. Have a great day everybody. Happy Scootering!!!
How much pound torque
For what?
how much do you weigh?
+Bmo Dex I weigh about 190lbs without including gear and all.
+FIFTYmil OK cool that's about where I'm at I'm currently installing a variator and exhaust and CDI
Bmo Dex What's your top speed like before the modifications and what weights are you using?
FIFTYmil Okay on Flats(perfect weather) id get 35-38 at 220lbs...down hill about 43mph. and thats with stock rollers...I'll be going to use maybe 4.5g weight total (3x 4 gram weights and 3x 5 gram weights) Not sure if i should mix the weights up like that but i bought a kit of weight rollers so i guess i can mix and match as needed.
Bmo Dex Is this speed on GPS or on your stock speedo? On my speedo it says I'm well over 54mph but it's inaccurate. What year is your bike? The roller weights AND rev limit changed for the newer model years as well. But 220lb is almost the max weight capacity of the bike so it may be a bit harder to achieve 50mph in you case. Fire as much questions at me as you like that though I'll help you out and try to add more speed to the bike. The little GET motor has a lot of potential
What torque specs?
I think it was something low like 18ft lb but check google.
I actually found the service manual online. Really helpful if anyone else needs it for their ruck, it has every last nut and bolt torque spec. Just as it came from factory. Thanks for your reply. Have a good one
cmartinez89 where’d you get the service manual? Looking for the specs on 05 metro 2? I’m hearing 25 and 30 torque for the met 2. Thanks
swap out the ruckus for a PCX150 at you will def hit 50mph.
Definitely on my wish list. Currently I have a gy6 180cc. The PCX is too much money and time investment for a sub $1500 scooter
The only way a ruckus is going 50 is with an engine swap , that lil 50cc is slow
of course you can get a motorcycle license and do 50 legally nice vid
Derek Boseley I have a motorcycle license
Mine is stock engine reach 55kph
55kph=34mph. That sounds like a pre-2008 ruckus performance figure. Or a heavier rider. Or a poorly performing 08+ ruckus.
Everybody is claiming a different CVT will get the Ruckus doing 50 mph but nobody is proving it. Install a kit but no speed test is forthcoming. It's all bunk. The ruckus is speed limited by the fuel injector set up. My brand spanking new 2015 never got more than 39 mph, even down hill. I was just hitting 40 and you could feel the motor bogging down so it's the fuel delivery system that limits how fast it will go.
First, please clearly indicate where I claimed that a "different cvt will get your ruckus to 50mph." If you have read the description the modifications to the ruckus is listed.
"the ruckus is speed limited by the fuel injector set up" - This statement is false. Ruckus are carbureted.
"My brand spanking new 2015 never got more than 39 mph, even down hill" - This statement is partially true, because you're limited by the rev limiter from Honda. However, since 2006 the Ruckus are capable of 45mph top speed stock with the higher rev limit update.
"I was just hitting 40 and you could feel the motor bogging down so it's the fuel delivery system that limits how fast it will go." - This statement is false and purely just a speculation of why you're stuck at 40mph.
FIFTYmil ruckus’s are fuel injected tho, maybe you don’t live in the US but here they are very much fuel injected 😂
FIFTYmil nvm apparently they are carbureted I thought they were fuel injected cuz it said liquid cooled so I Got confused and thought it was fuel injected my bad. Honestly I was planing on getting one of these and I didn’t like that it was fuel injected but I’m glad I was wrong 😂 I like good old fashioned carbs even tho I’m 15 I still appreciate that simple mechanical carb.
49cc Ruckus Scooter breaks 50MPH! Unboxing and Installing the Polini Variator. See the 50MPH? That is were you claimed the Polini variator got you to 50. Yes I was wrong about the Ruckus being fuel injected but it is still limited to 39mph. Maybe the CDI is programmable and it's set by local regulation. 35 mph is the legal speed limit for 50cc scooters in Indiana so 39 mph max speed. I just want to see a Ruckus have the CVT changed and a speed test done to prove the concept. I don't want to make an investment only to find it was all bunk from the get go.
I'm sorry but please read it again? 49cc Ruckus scooter break 50mph! Unboxing and installing the polini variator. Those are two sentence absolutely unrelated to each other. That's equivalent to saying: Alan D1 commented on my video! Today we will discuss about homosexuality.
Does that make you a homosexual? I didn't think so.
No where on this video does it say "Installing the polini variator will get your Ruckus to 50mph." And again you're wrong the CDI is not "programmable" nor "set by local regulation."
with the magic of Video, you could have done all this in under a minute
Close enough
Damnn u dont talk or what?
+kevin ortiz Sorry Kevin. Will definitely talk more in future videos but let me know if you have any questions
Will NOT make it go 50mph with just variator alone.
Please indicate where it says that "adding a polini variator will make your honda ruckus go 50mph"?
@@FIFTYmil the fucking title lol
@@swagnuscarlson Read it again, out loud. Tell me where it said "a variator alone will let you break 50mph."
@@FIFTYmil cmon, your title is a little misleading.
@@swagnuscarlson Yes blame the world for all your failures.
pffffffffffffff
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If you don't talk, the video is useless
Sorry, I do talk in the following episodes.
i think this one is asale pitch it will nèver give you that much jump in speed just by changing your variator who ever or what ever brand you buy or even if you change your cdi its all bullcrap im a mechanic for long time and me and my guys have been winning a lot of race and still are beating many well i font know if you are being sponsored or wanting to be sposored by that product man stop lying to the people might be tempted to buy that shit and find themselves very dissapointed of your empty promise that they will reach 8o km or exceed 50miles cuz i know it will take so much more than that sick variator or cdi and fyi its not a good start to give misinformation pls dont do that and sorry if i hurt your feelings racing and making motorcycle to go faster or your scooter go fast is not one or 2 step it takes a lot more
They all start off saying "They have been a mechanic for years" and then "how they know better." Typical approach for a scooter mechanic who often jumps straight to conclusion -just based on title.
Please show me where in this video have I ever mentioned that installing a polini variator will instantly increase your top speed to 50mph.
Of all the scooter channels on youtube, this one is by far the least biased because every mod is purchased with my own money and I document the improvement immediately after each modification. Other channels will tell you that you need this and that- big bore, cdi, variator, jets from their shops - without telling you why you even need it.