The chorale melody played in the pedal in the first movement is "Aus tiefer not schrei ich zu dir": (i.e., "From out of the depths I have cried unto Thee"), based on Psalm 130. The second movement is one of Mendelssohn's "Songs without words," written specifically for this sonata, forming a deeply satisying and contrasting finish to this especially interesting sonata.
I think this is one of the culminating moments in romantic organ music. Worthy successor to Bach. By the way, not only was he one of the best romantic organ composers of all time, but also responsible for saving many of Bach's works by mere chance. Two facts for which we are indebted to him forever.
Jaime Sanroman Gracias e igualmente a todo mundo allá por "Manceralandia" Si ves a la mtra. Rossina Vrionides me la saludas y le das un abrazo tamaño cuadra por favor :P . P. D. : he buscado la versión con Clay Christiansen de la sonata no. 3 al gran órgano Æolian-Skinner del tabernáculo mormón de Salt Lake City pero no doy con ella. ¿Sabes dónde pueda encontrarla, de casualidad? Gracias de nuevo y saludos.
Jaime Sanroman Je-je, pequeño detalle ¿verdad inge? Ojalá Rossina decida proponer y/o participar en proyectos de restauración de muchos instrumentos históricos en aquella parte de la república. Si tienes forma de informarle del gran instrumento de la Parroquia de nuestra Señora de los dolores (en Dolores Hidalgo, Guanajuato), pues estaría soberbio. Te incluyo el enlace al sitio donde pueden verse diferentes aspectos de la parroquia, igual que su gran órgano restaurado en 1937 por el mtro. Alfred Wolburg. El mtro. Alejandro Rubio de Guanajuato está involucrado en un proyecto de restauración del instrumento igualmente, ojalá puedan entrar en contacto Rossina y él, ya ves que "2 cabezas piensan mejor que 1" :) . Aquí puedes ver algunas panorámicas del templo, por si decides informarle a Rossina y vea en todo su esplendor el instrumento: (w)(w)(w).(t)r(a)v(e)l(b)ymexico.com/dolores/atractivos/?nom=1282849610 . También estaría súper que organizaran la instalación de un gran órgano en la preciosa parroquia de Sn. Francisco allá en Qro. Hay 1 magnífico instrumento en la Cd. de Schwäbisch-Gmünd de Alemania (en la provincia de Baden-Württemberg), cuyo estilo barroco/neoclásico me parece idóneo para ese templo, guardadas las proporciones. Fue construido por Johann-Michael Maucher originalmente. Te facilito el enlace para que puedas ver y escuchar ese soberbio instrumento (arreglo coral con órgano de "“Wohl mir, dass ich Jesum habe” o "Añoro que Jesús se adueñe de mì alma y mi ser" en la catedral del monasterio de la Santa Cruz (Heiliger Kreuz Münster): (w)(w)(w).(y)o(u)t(u)be.(c)o(m)/watch?v=lUsTXEVVQbk . Un saludo a todos por) allá y siempre un gusto escribirte, inge. Hasta pronto.
Por cierto, ¿tendrás de casualidad su domicilio electrónico? La otra tarde le mandé 2 correos y ni supe si los recibió. Eso me hace sospechar ya no es el mismo. Si de pura chiripa lo localizes, te pido me lo envies, inge. Un abrazo tamaño grizzly para toda la familia y te cuidas. Tu amigo, Mario.
While the organ used isn't ideal for romantic works, Peter's expression through registration and phrasing here is excellent. I've been looking for a good recording on UA-cam, and while this is available on better organs, it sounds as if the organists are "going through the motions," and there isn't much information being conveyed by the registration and phrasing. Peter's recording here is an excellent interpretation; I'd also love to hear him perform this work on a 19th century instrument.
C'est formidable !! mon mari a déjà joué cette pièce. Il est organiste du grand Orgue de l'INJA aussi professeur d'orgue. Co-titulaire de Versailles. Un grand merci à vous. C'est magnifique la musique Mendelssohn. J'en ai fait d'orgue également et j'aime la musique de romantique & baroque. C'est joli son de votre orgue. On aimera connaître davantage. Nous sommes musiciens...
This is Peter Hurford, at Ratzeburg Cathedral, 1986. Organ is a Rieger instrument from 1978. Typical "reformed" organ sound. I'd much rather hear anything by Mendelssohn on a Cavaille-Coll instrument. The first real Romantic, on a really Romantic instrument. Ahh, some day!
Yes, 1986, because he recorded this also in 1983, on the same instrument. It is interesting to compare the two recordings. Two different days, two different points of view.
These designations refer to different manuals on the organ, usually, though not always, the Great and Swell, or Great and Choir divisions. Mendelssohn himself, in his introductory notes about the Sonatas, explained that he did not feel he could be any more specific than this in providing directions as to registration (i.e., the choice of stops to be used at any given point in an organ composition) due to the wide variety of specifications and sizes of organs in various locations throughout England, and, for that matter, throughout the world.
Why for God‘s sake play Mendelssohn like Bach, strictly on metronom, registrations pseudo baroque, with a lot too much sharp mixtures most lines with detached notes and so on. In my view Mendelssohn is closer to romantism than to classicism not to speak about baroque. I think he is closer to Guilmant. Why not dare to play like one can feel this kind of music
I really can't understand the appeal of organ music whatsoever. it sounds so messy, blurry, you can't hear the individual notes and lines clearly like on a piano... why would anyone want to slave over writing a super complex organ piece when it just sounds like a wash of sound....
Valid point, because we all must hear slightly (or radically) different things when we hear music. There is aural mess, at times, and blur; yet I'm guessing some people have an awareness and fondness of sounds hidden beyond and within this 'mess' that excite a different level of complexity and beauty of sound, namely through reinforced naturally-occurring (tonal) partials, plus extreme high and low frequencies that create a enhanced fullness and clarity of sound.. But it's also the skill, musicianship, and the beauty that organ composers and performers share, that appeal to organ enthusiasts, as well as the varied acoustic spaces worldwide, and vast repertoire that spans centuries in both secular and sacred roles.
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This is the reason why I prefer performing such music on smaller organs in smaller and less reverbant rooms. Cathedrals kill the art of music.
Schön gespielt und registriert Many thanks for that wonderfull playing music!
The chorale melody played in the pedal in the first movement is "Aus tiefer not schrei ich zu dir": (i.e., "From out of the depths I have cried unto Thee"), based on Psalm 130. The second movement is one of Mendelssohn's "Songs without words," written specifically for this sonata, forming a deeply satisying and contrasting finish to this especially interesting sonata.
It's impossible to be sad when hearing Mendelssohn; his melodies have a knack for lifting one's soul.
Mendelssohn is lightfull
I think this is one of the culminating moments in romantic organ music. Worthy successor to Bach. By the way, not only was he one of the best romantic organ composers of all time, but also responsible for saving many of Bach's works by mere chance. Two facts for which we are indebted to him forever.
Jaime Sanroman Nos darà enorme gusto saludarles de nuevo inge. Qué bueno entras a estos tan interesantes sitios :) . Saludos a todos. No me despido.
Jaime Sanroman Gracias e igualmente a todo mundo allá por "Manceralandia" Si ves a la mtra. Rossina Vrionides me la saludas y le das un abrazo tamaño cuadra por favor :P .
P. D. : he buscado la versión con Clay Christiansen de la sonata no. 3 al gran órgano Æolian-Skinner del tabernáculo mormón de Salt Lake City pero no doy con ella. ¿Sabes dónde pueda encontrarla, de casualidad? Gracias de nuevo y saludos.
Jaime Sanroman Je-je, pequeño detalle ¿verdad inge? Ojalá Rossina decida proponer y/o participar en proyectos de restauración de muchos instrumentos históricos en aquella parte de la república. Si tienes forma de informarle del gran instrumento de la Parroquia de nuestra Señora de los dolores (en Dolores Hidalgo, Guanajuato), pues estaría soberbio. Te incluyo el enlace al sitio donde pueden verse diferentes aspectos de la parroquia, igual que su gran órgano restaurado en 1937 por el mtro. Alfred Wolburg. El mtro. Alejandro Rubio de Guanajuato está involucrado en un proyecto de restauración del instrumento igualmente, ojalá puedan entrar en contacto Rossina y él, ya ves que "2 cabezas piensan mejor que 1" :) . Aquí puedes ver algunas panorámicas del templo, por si decides informarle a Rossina y vea en todo su esplendor el instrumento:
(w)(w)(w).(t)r(a)v(e)l(b)ymexico.com/dolores/atractivos/?nom=1282849610 . También estaría súper que organizaran la instalación de un gran órgano en la preciosa parroquia de Sn. Francisco allá en Qro. Hay 1 magnífico instrumento en la Cd. de Schwäbisch-Gmünd de Alemania (en la provincia de Baden-Württemberg), cuyo estilo barroco/neoclásico me parece idóneo para ese templo, guardadas las proporciones. Fue construido por Johann-Michael Maucher originalmente. Te facilito el enlace para que puedas ver y escuchar ese soberbio instrumento (arreglo coral con órgano de "“Wohl mir, dass ich Jesum habe” o "Añoro que Jesús se adueñe de mì alma y mi ser" en la catedral del monasterio de la Santa Cruz (Heiliger Kreuz Münster):
(w)(w)(w).(y)o(u)t(u)be.(c)o(m)/watch?v=lUsTXEVVQbk .
Un saludo a todos por) allá y siempre un gusto escribirte, inge.
Hasta pronto.
Por cierto, ¿tendrás de casualidad su domicilio electrónico? La otra tarde le mandé 2 correos y ni supe si los recibió. Eso me hace sospechar ya no es el mismo. Si de pura chiripa lo localizes, te pido me lo envies, inge. Un abrazo tamaño grizzly para toda la familia y te cuidas.
Tu amigo,
Mario.
The performer is Sir Peter Hurford, playing the Rieger organ at Ratzeburg Cathedral in Germany.
thank you
An absolutly great performance!
I had no idea Mendelsohn had organ music, so for me it is a lovely surprise.
I love when they keep the same sound with the organ for a long time. It feels like the infinite!
Очень мне нравятся органные сонаты Мендельсона!
Familiar sounding organ - possibly the Rieger in Ratzeborg cathedral played by Peter Hurford. Anyway, it's an enjoyable performance.
I can totally agree with you. Someone should do all of his Sonatas on St. Ouen.
Beautiful. thank you Craig!
For goodness sake NO commercials between movements.
Better then commercials During^^ the movements
While the organ used isn't ideal for romantic works, Peter's expression through registration and phrasing here is excellent. I've been looking for a good recording on UA-cam, and while this is available on better organs, it sounds as if the organists are "going through the motions," and there isn't much information being conveyed by the registration and phrasing. Peter's recording here is an excellent interpretation; I'd also love to hear him perform this work on a 19th century instrument.
This organ is perfect and provides plenty of drama and contrast. I absolutely love the reeds - very much a Rieger trademark.
Agreed. You are right about Peter Hurford!
A new Mendelssohn obsession is mounting.
Herr Hurford Wie immer ein Grosser Lehrer.
5:50 is such an epic moment !
C'est formidable !! mon mari a déjà joué cette pièce. Il est organiste du grand Orgue de l'INJA aussi professeur d'orgue. Co-titulaire de Versailles. Un grand merci à vous. C'est magnifique la musique Mendelssohn. J'en ai fait d'orgue également et j'aime la musique de romantique & baroque. C'est joli son de votre orgue. On aimera connaître davantage. Nous sommes musiciens...
This is Peter Hurford, at Ratzeburg Cathedral, 1986. Organ is a Rieger instrument from 1978. Typical "reformed" organ sound. I'd much rather hear anything by Mendelssohn on a Cavaille-Coll instrument. The first real Romantic, on a really Romantic instrument. Ahh, some day!
Yes, 1986, because he recorded this also in 1983, on the same instrument. It is interesting to compare the two recordings. Two different days, two different points of view.
I would prefer a historic E. F. Walcker, (Annaberg-Buchholz, Schramberg or Riga, to mention a few small and great ones...)
pretty
What is "Clav. I" and "Clav. II"?
These designations refer to different manuals on the organ, usually, though not always, the Great and Swell, or Great and Choir divisions. Mendelssohn himself, in his introductory notes about the Sonatas, explained that he did not feel he could be any more specific than this in providing directions as to registration (i.e., the choice of stops to be used at any given point in an organ composition) due to the wide variety of specifications and sizes of organs in various locations throughout England, and, for that matter, throughout the world.
There is a point from where solemnity and colosal sound becomes ugly and grotesque, I wish people did honor the music and not their cheap egos.......
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Why for God‘s sake play Mendelssohn like Bach, strictly on metronom, registrations pseudo baroque, with a lot too much sharp mixtures most lines with detached notes and so on. In my view Mendelssohn is closer to romantism than to classicism not to speak about baroque. I think he is closer to Guilmant. Why not dare to play like one can feel this kind of music
Then play it in your view. It’s his style of playing dummy stop complaining
Why "strictly on metronome?" Well, for one thing, the composer specified "Con Moto." The performer is justified.
Ponderous and typically under tempo.
I really can't understand the appeal of organ music whatsoever. it sounds so messy, blurry, you can't hear the individual notes and lines clearly like on a piano... why would anyone want to slave over writing a super complex organ piece when it just sounds like a wash of sound....
Valid point, because we all must hear slightly (or radically) different things when we hear music. There is aural mess, at times, and blur; yet I'm guessing some people have an awareness and fondness of sounds hidden beyond and within this 'mess' that excite a different level of complexity and beauty of sound, namely through reinforced naturally-occurring (tonal) partials, plus extreme high and low frequencies that create a enhanced fullness and clarity of sound.. But it's also the skill, musicianship, and the beauty that organ composers and performers share, that appeal to organ enthusiasts, as well as the varied acoustic spaces worldwide, and vast repertoire that spans centuries in both secular and sacred roles.
This is the reason why I prefer performing such music on smaller organs in smaller and less reverbant rooms. Cathedrals kill the art of music.
Hearing a pipe organ in person is a massively different experience..... Keep that in mind
@@roelofvandermerwe1147 true.
I think so, but there are some organ works wich are gorgeous and clear like bach's fantasy and fugue in g minor BWV 542
Absolutely second rate music.