This is also why, despite War Thunder's game developers going to great lengths to make money from players and players constantly complaining, they still play the game. There are too few games that seriously focus on World War II, and players who don't understand military matters often equate realism with just graphics and modeling.
Just amazing how much time they spent on aircraft and ship models, graphics, then turn around and completely ignore anything close to realistic SBD Dauntless operations, formations, flight and damage models, etc.
biggest problem of today games.. sadly this is the common gamer, clueless just wants to watch a movie while pressing a few buttons thinking he is doing the moves for the planes and characters..
What pisses me off is the people hanging off the props to get it started when the Dauntless has an inertial starter which means it doesn't need people to spin the prop manually...
Why would one of the pilots say, "Punching out?" It's a term that means using the ejection seat. Planes in this era didn't have ejection seats. In fact, ejection seats weren't common until after the end of WW2 and the jet age because as aircrafts were getting faster and flying higher, you needed and ejection seat to "punch you out" of the way of the aircraft when you bailed.
It reminds me of hopping into SW Squadrons, which I played for all of 10 minutes and never bothered coming back to it. You can only score so many kills before you feel like there's not really any skill involved, let alone realism.
I like how there is a layer of cloud underneath the formation and they can't even see the ships, but the AA gunners on the ships can see through the clouds at tiny little planes and shoot down half the squadron.
it's easier to see a plane in the clouds from the ground than it is to see through the clouds from above it's the difference in reflectiveness from the sunlight on top of the clouds penetrating through creating a shadow effect on the bottom and the plane not being a cloud easily being separated from the two by sight
as a military history nerd, I have consumed countless media around this battle, and never has a segment been as immersive and real feeling as this gameplay footage. stunning piece of art.
Realistic gameplay? Who are you trying to fool? 1) Since when did the SBD Dauntless dive bomber have unlimited ammo and went on prolonged dogfights with the A6-M Zero fighter. 2) What kind of admiral would set the ships of his battle fleet so close to each other? Word of advice, ditch the "realistic" tag. There's nothing realistic in this video.
These is not a Brewster Buffalo. It’s an SBD Slow But Deadly. No way this would be getting the upper hand on a zero particularly since it had twin machine gun firing forward. And twin 30s in the rear. Zeros had twin 7.7 and 20mm cannons all firing forward but would explode or catch fire with the first tracer that hit the fuel tank.
It looks very pretty but I’m getting the pirate disaster vibe from this. A 22 year old game is still one of the best out there - IL2 Sturmovic..decades ago I couldn’t wait to see what would be available…instead everything is garbage. It’s like there’s no people able to put their dream out instead we’ve got all these b.s. things created by committees. (Movies, games, music. Hollow trash) The most important thing to them is how much money can this make not how much fun can this be?
I used to play IL-2 Sturmovic on my PC for years with a group of friends, even made and hosted a few maps. There was no better feeling than making a successful landing when you're shot up, leaking fuel badly, flaps are malfunctioning, and your engine is grinding loudly.
I loved flying the yak's. Talk about realistic, and difficult to learn! Forget to adjust anything in a fight an youre done! Greatest game ever! Coarsairs in the pacific version were amazing
If you haven't already check out DCS (Digital Combat Simulator). The flight models are gorgeous and painstakingly detailed to be realistic. Their focus is definitely modern(ish) jets, but they have lots of unbelievably good models of older planes. I enjoyed IL2, but once I found DCS it's hard to enjoy anything else.
It's because of the lack of realism in CoD games that I haven't bought or played one for years. The shooter is nearly always invincible, tanks, planes that have limitless ammo, and miraculously never suffer any major damage when hit by shells, or numerous bullets. For me the best game ever in this Franchise was CoD 2 - The Big Red One on PS2, which should have been remastered for both the PS3 and the PS4. Sad that the producers/developers don't bother about realism, because they know that real fans of the Franchise will continue to buy the games and they will still pocket big fat profits. As long as that continues the fans don't count, just the pounds and dollars they continue to shell out.
Notice that the Wildcat fighter in the hanger had the nose of a Hellcat F4F's is noticeably shorter and stubbier IRL , the cruiser seen as they take off didn't have an aft turret , even looked like a helipad there . Maybe it'll be fun anyway
This comment section made me realize that people will complain about anything. I remember the days where we played games for fun, now everyone is a faux historian and expects realism in an arcade game.
In fact, this is a typical and ordinary view of people from the gaming and film industry - war. Nothing realistic or close to reality, but everything explodes, falls, and flies beautifully. I laughed for a very long time at the air battle between the SBD aircraft and one of the best maneuverable fighters of the Second World War, the A5M Zero.
Apparently Lt. Stanley Vejtasa claimed 3 zeroes in a single CAP in his Dauntless. Not just that, but according to Navy records the SBD attained a positive kill to death ratio (meaning it killed more enemy aircraft than it was shot down)
A bit of history. When American fighter pilots that were downed was picked up by the Japanese ships, interrogated then bound up with heavy weights and thrown overboard.
Graphics look great. Gameplay looks too arcade mode. How many zeros flew in front of you and slowed down? Wildcats in a turn fight with zeros got killed.
Doesn't make sense, who started his plane ? Did the ground crew start the plane and then just fucked off with no one at the controls ? Does the plane start himself ? Why is he running on a deck with running engines and spinnig props ? There's so many questions 😂 running full power with the parking brake on ? Doesn't the aircraft have toe brakes ? What about the p factor from running on full power ? No radial engine aircraft that big uses full power for take off ? He launches off the deck like an F-18 of the catapult😂
I wish they would do a ww2 rpg game where you pick what unit you want to join between airborn, infantry, armored, and navy. Then you fight with that character until you die
They did. Warbirds. Flt Sim PC Game. MMSim. Join a WW2 Axis or Allied squad...real people with coms etc...... Practice and have a massive role play simulating some aspect of WW2 like Battle of Britain etc.... if you die your done for the night. It was called S3 or Squad Select Series. Everything was scored by the PC and based on the scores you have a winner. Your stats are also tracked and logged. Unfortunately guys got older and the game died out. It's nothing like it was......
Tu es monsieur tout le monde, qui a envie de ce faire plaisir, tu rentre dans un magasin et tu achète ta ps5 pro avec le lecteur de disque pour lire tes jeux déjà acheté auparavant, tu prends le socle car elle rentre pas sous la télé, et puis tu te prends un nouveau jeu. 1000€ monsieur. Merci, mais non merci.
They slammed into each other all the time, sometimes even on purpose. But this is not at all how this would have gone like it did in this game. There is some real footage of actual ww2 dogfights out there. Also lots of documentaries with animations that have a more accurate portrayal.
Cod flying had always felt like your driving a 20 year old Van . You know it won't roll over and it handles like shit. But it will let you trudge along. Like it's been years and each game they seem chill to throw you back in to the Same van just different graphics.
Perhaps “realistic” speaks more to the achievement in the gaming graphics; and not at all to the historical accuracy of the times. Which is, absolutely, cool with me… especially as I reflect on being hyper-excited about watching two sticks and a dot on my tv screen (Pong). 😊
A hispanic aerial gunner in 1942 when African Americans in the navy were only allowed to be cooks and native americans radio operators respectively! Realistic means don't sugarcoat America's colorful and bigoted past with revisionist history.
@@treystephens6166 It lacks historical detail, if you play the game you know what I mean, because there is no way an arisaka can be used in Europe back in ww2.
This is also why, despite War Thunder's game developers going to great lengths to make money from players and players constantly complaining, they still play the game. There are too few games that seriously focus on World War II, and players who don't understand military matters often equate realism with just graphics and modeling.
War thunder isn't that bad of a game it's just a grind type of game with frustrating moments in it
Their dlcs are expensive asf
@@MarioMarin-qy7cuWar thunder doesn't sell DLCs, just premium planes
In 40 years of playing WWII games I've felt the main thing that was always missing was a Mexican pilot.
Tequlia gives you wings Amigo
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A pregnant black woman.
Me gusta aeroplano.
@@StevenBabyar AYYY FOO
Just amazing how much time they spent on aircraft and ship models, graphics, then turn around and completely ignore anything close to realistic SBD Dauntless operations, formations, flight and damage models, etc.
biggest problem of today games.. sadly this is the common gamer, clueless just wants to watch a movie while pressing a few buttons thinking he is doing the moves for the planes and characters..
Damn ballistics are completely off too. Bullets shoot out of gun, these look like they're being thrown...
Bro check the cruiser models again. I'm pretty sure they don't have their main guns
What pisses me off is the people hanging off the props to get it started when the Dauntless has an inertial starter which means it doesn't need people to spin the prop manually...
Graphics 10, realism 0.
disse td
😂😂 exactly
Are you suggesting the Dauntless wasn’t the best dogfighter of the war?
Infinite ammo.
@@ZeAlicioБесконечная жизнь!))
Why would one of the pilots say, "Punching out?" It's a term that means using the ejection seat. Planes in this era didn't have ejection seats. In fact, ejection seats weren't common until after the end of WW2 and the jet age because as aircrafts were getting faster and flying higher, you needed and ejection seat to "punch you out" of the way of the aircraft when you bailed.
The he163 had an ejection seat still doesnt explain why he says it but just to show ejection seats were around in the end of ww2
Yeah i thought the more common term was "bailling out"
It reminds me of hopping into SW Squadrons, which I played for all of 10 minutes and never bothered coming back to it. You can only score so many kills before you feel like there's not really any skill involved, let alone realism.
As a private pilot I love the graphics but the complete lack of any kind of realism made this no fun at all to play.
U know he’s Mexican when he constantly says words in Spanish for no reason
I talk like that pretty often, grew up next to Mexico where everyone was somewhat bilingual. I’m white lol
We all know latinos were in these carriers. Right? LOL
Probably you also had Japanese pilots in these american carriers too ROFLMAO
Just another character who is supposedly a Spanish speaker but can't even say pendejo correctly
I wonder if the game will allow me to select another gunner. One that doesn’t feel the need to speak in Spanish in every other sentence
Tequlia gives you wings Amigo
I like how there is a layer of cloud underneath the formation and they can't even see the ships, but the AA gunners on the ships can see through the clouds at tiny little planes and shoot down half the squadron.
it's easier to see a plane in the clouds from the ground than it is to see through the clouds from above it's the difference in reflectiveness from the sunlight on top of the clouds penetrating through creating a shadow effect on the bottom and the plane not being a cloud easily being separated from the two by sight
its flak not aa
@@candycat-i1tAA = anti air, which its munition its flak
@@nuclear5300 wtv
U know they just fire up into the air hoping to hit something rite
I loved 1942 on the NES...such a classic
and you like the 1943 game? that's my favorite.
But have u guys heard about 1944 tho
Yes
I’m so glad they finally remade it
@@gino-cz9zu
Hopefully they will do it also
as a military history nerd, I have consumed countless media around this battle, and never has a segment been as immersive and real feeling as this gameplay footage. stunning piece of art.
Ohhhh... A pre-flight quickie 4:00.... very nice 😇
Realistic gameplay? Who are you trying to fool? 1) Since when did the SBD Dauntless dive bomber have unlimited ammo and went on prolonged dogfights with the A6-M Zero fighter. 2) What kind of admiral would set the ships of his battle fleet so close to each other? Word of advice, ditch the "realistic" tag. There's nothing realistic in this video.
They meant The Graphics
Lmaoo," realistic" here is for the graphics... Are you really a gamer ?? Lol
Wow, bet your fun at parties
Had the same exact reaction...😂
Did you completely miss the title of the video?💀
IL2 Battle of Stalingrad is a true simulator WWII !
Yes i can confirm
If you are a player of il-2, you will find that every action of the plane here is surreal.
No dcs is a real simulator
What is IL 2?
Combat pilot is looking excellent (the old ceo is making it) and they are doing the pacific first 😊
Apparently your plane is indestructible. 😂
It’s really not…all of these Brewster planes all had R2 units on the back of them according to our history.
Apparently this plane has an endless source of ammunition.
These is not a Brewster Buffalo. It’s an SBD Slow But Deadly. No way this would be getting the upper hand on a zero particularly since it had twin machine gun firing forward. And twin 30s in the rear. Zeros had twin 7.7 and 20mm cannons all firing forward but would explode or catch fire with the first tracer that hit the fuel tank.
5:14 yeah lots of reggaeton guys in WWII
😂
SBD Dauntless was no damn fighter. They say it handled like a bus, but he's shooing down zeros.
To be fair, most of his shots are missing. I think he shot down more friendly planes than zeros
The SBD Dauntless was actually credited with over 100 zero kills during WW2.
with carry a heavey payload SBD cant stand againts zero but without it can be used as support fighter
@@johnparkman5980 Most from the rear gunner, not from dogfighting.
100 aircraft kills are credited to the SBD Dauntless. Slow But deadly.
4:03 that's a weird thing to show 😂
Bro had to edge rq
Is that why it's called a joystick?
Ayoooo😂
It looks very pretty but I’m getting the pirate disaster vibe from this. A 22 year old game is still one of the best out there - IL2 Sturmovic..decades ago I couldn’t wait to see what would be available…instead everything is garbage. It’s like there’s no people able to put their dream out instead we’ve got all these b.s. things created by committees. (Movies, games, music. Hollow trash) The most important thing to them is how much money can this make not how much fun can this be?
I used to play IL-2 Sturmovic on my PC for years with a group of friends, even made and hosted a few maps.
There was no better feeling than making a successful landing when you're shot up, leaking fuel badly, flaps are malfunctioning, and your engine is grinding loudly.
Check out il2 great battles then.
I loved flying the yak's. Talk about realistic, and difficult to learn! Forget to adjust anything in a fight an youre done! Greatest game ever! Coarsairs in the pacific version were amazing
What i dont get is we are losing ww2 vets every day and the opportunity to make their storys into a game are yet to be made
If you haven't already check out DCS (Digital Combat Simulator). The flight models are gorgeous and painstakingly detailed to be realistic. Their focus is definitely modern(ish) jets, but they have lots of unbelievably good models of older planes. I enjoyed IL2, but once I found DCS it's hard to enjoy anything else.
I've never played this game but is this in easy mode with infinite ammo?
No for some reason just like All COD games when on a rail system you get infinite ammo.
It's because of the lack of realism in CoD games that I haven't bought or played one for years. The shooter is nearly always invincible, tanks, planes that have limitless ammo, and miraculously never suffer any major damage when hit by shells, or numerous bullets. For me the best game ever in this Franchise was CoD 2 - The Big Red One on PS2, which should have been remastered for both the PS3 and the PS4. Sad that the producers/developers don't bother about realism, because they know that real fans of the Franchise will continue to buy the games and they will still pocket big fat profits. As long as that continues the fans don't count, just the pounds and dollars they continue to shell out.
Notice that the Wildcat fighter in the hanger had the nose of a Hellcat F4F's is noticeably shorter and stubbier IRL , the cruiser seen as they take off didn't have an aft turret , even looked like a helipad there . Maybe it'll be fun anyway
NEEERRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDD!!! 🤓
@@coonplatoon dont be jealous because he did finish school m8
I just want a redo of Battlefield 1942…
Exactly . How fun was it . Simple goodness .
...me too, just want a redo of 1943
They did it in battlefield 5 lol. You can replay all the levels
This comment section made me realize that people will complain about anything. I remember the days where we played games for fun, now everyone is a faux historian and expects realism in an arcade game.
cuz information aint expensive these days. a bit of research wouldn't hurt much. if u make something based of real thing, at least make it accordingly
@ the year is 2345, and most people still don’t know what historical fiction means.
@@mohamedbaradji7504 bruh
How is he flying through a perpetual cloud that somehow doesn't limit his visibility? That's nuts yo
In fact, this is a typical and ordinary view of people from the gaming and film industry - war.
Nothing realistic or close to reality, but everything explodes, falls, and flies beautifully.
I laughed for a very long time at the air battle between the SBD aircraft and one of the best maneuverable fighters of the Second World War, the A5M Zero.
A6M Zero!
Apparently Lt. Stanley Vejtasa claimed 3 zeroes in a single CAP in his Dauntless. Not just that, but according to Navy records the SBD attained a positive kill to death ratio (meaning it killed more enemy aircraft than it was shot down)
I love how all the COD videos don’t have cod in the visible title so people still watch them 😂
3:58 Not quite sure what's going on there...
If they only made Battlefield 1942 with a new engine..it would be golden.
A bit of history. When American fighter pilots that were downed was picked up by the Japanese ships, interrogated then bound up with heavy weights and thrown overboard.
Is that the USS Enterprise?
All i Remember is How Good battlefield is.
Yes here we go again, same video for 100time
That's called content repurposing
Graphics look great. Gameplay looks too arcade mode. How many zeros flew in front of you and slowed down? Wildcats in a turn fight with zeros got killed.
That plane shot out the ammo of about 10 fighter planes at that time. They had very limited ammo
I'm trying find my controller and pretend I'm playing. One thing missing is a barrel roll. I can smell the 130/140 octane, fuel explosions.
Who watch in 2160p60HDR 😂
Is this on the Call of Duty disc ? or is this a game to itself ? Im 55 yrs old, so im learning. LoL
Doesn't make sense, who started his plane ? Did the ground crew start the plane and then just fucked off with no one at the controls ? Does the plane start himself ? Why is he running on a deck with running engines and spinnig props ? There's so many questions 😂 running full power with the parking brake on ? Doesn't the aircraft have toe brakes ? What about the p factor from running on full power ? No radial engine aircraft that big uses full power for take off ? He launches off the deck like an F-18 of the catapult😂
During the later part of the war the American carriers actually did use catapults for launch assist. This was not till the Essex class came in tho.
I was impressed up until 3:57
The flight controls have no weight on them. As a pilot you can't just vibrate the flight controls that fast 🤣
I wish they would do a ww2 rpg game where you pick what unit you want to join between airborn, infantry, armored, and navy. Then you fight with that character until you die
This isn’t actual colorized footage from WW2?
They did. Warbirds. Flt Sim PC Game. MMSim. Join a WW2 Axis or Allied squad...real people with coms etc...... Practice and have a massive role play simulating some aspect of WW2 like Battle of Britain etc.... if you die your done for the night. It was called S3 or Squad Select Series. Everything was scored by the PC and based on the scores you have a winner. Your stats are also tracked and logged. Unfortunately guys got older and the game died out. It's nothing like it was......
Warthunder or il2 stumorvik is the closest i believe you will get to that
Tu es monsieur tout le monde, qui a envie de ce faire plaisir, tu rentre dans un magasin et tu achète ta ps5 pro avec le lecteur de disque pour lire tes jeux déjà acheté auparavant, tu prends le socle car elle rentre pas sous la télé, et puis tu te prends un nouveau jeu.
1000€ monsieur.
Merci, mais non merci.
Is this how conflicts really happened in aerial combat? There’s so many planes around idk how you couldn’t slam into each other
They slammed into each other all the time, sometimes even on purpose. But this is not at all how this would have gone like it did in this game. There is some real footage of actual ww2 dogfights out there. Also lots of documentaries with animations that have a more accurate portrayal.
"Fine, keep your secrets" 5:45
This would be incredible in PSVR2!
Does this Dauntless Dive Bomber have a 400 mile ammo feed?!?
Those zeroes can fly faster than jets..
It is Star Wars in the Pacific. Blow the Death Star. LOL
they really cant.
Cod flying had always felt like your driving a 20 year old Van .
You know it won't roll over and it handles like shit. But it will let you trudge along.
Like it's been years and each game they seem chill to throw you back in to the Same van just different graphics.
Yeah I would love to play that battle out on all the equipment
Yeah, a Wildcat vs Zero... I'm sure this is how it happened, "realistically"
SBD Dontless vs Zero! 😉
@@Augusto__Pinochet SBD had a 3.2:1 air-to-air victory ratio. It did pretty good. It wasn't fast but it was surprisingly agile.
Graphics look great
I believe the title is claiming realistic graphics and not realism of the gameplay. Seems fun as hell though
Love how the guy has zero Spanish accent until he says a word in Spanish.
Who, that Hernandez pilot?
1:50 welding aluminum ? nice XD hahahahaha
This would be great in VR with support for the PS4/PS5 HOTAS flightstick & pedals 🤔
Is this game a part of war of thunder or its own game itself
I just saw the Midway movie with my step dad last week!
I hope it was the one from the 70’s and not the shitty later version.
@ctbadger "the shitty later version" was historically accurate.
Game?
This video game gave me a good laugh, thank you
Man I love it I have to get this
my god, the historical side of my is cringing so hard at all the inaccuracies in this
Please make an F-14 Tomcat mod on Midway to make more realistic. LOL
In real life, halfway through the mission you would no longer have ammunition.
Battlefield 3 made disciples!
Das für die PSVR2 wäre ein Träumchen.
Perhaps “realistic” speaks more to the achievement in the gaming graphics; and not at all to the historical accuracy of the times. Which is, absolutely, cool with me… especially as I reflect on being hyper-excited about watching two sticks and a dot on my tv screen (Pong). 😊
Love that the thumbnail is ai-generated. Inspires great confidence
That ain’t realistic, just has improved graphics. Try crawling into a real plane.
And if that's not possible, DCS is the next best option for realism. ;)
In the very first scene, guys are hand-starting a Dauntless by spinning the prop.
DOUBT!
They need to remake secret weapons over normandy
What's this game called and is it out yet?
Just cause you can cod don’t mean you should…. Just like the matching making 😂
*Clicks private browsing*
*5 minutes later:* @4:03
What game is this from? Vanguard?
As an IL-2 player … 😅😅😅
Players : Esse avião tem munição infinita.
DEV: Isso mesmo! Por que? Eu que inventei isso. Bom ne?! ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta tata ta tatataaaaa
What is the name of this video game ?? Thanks!!!
A hispanic aerial gunner in 1942 when African Americans in the navy were only allowed to be cooks and native americans radio operators respectively! Realistic means don't sugarcoat America's colorful and bigoted past with revisionist history.
K this game looks fkn amazing. Im gonma buy a PS5 just for this
Will it let you play as the Empire of Japan?
No, btw the game sucks
@@damonyuckywhy does it suck???
@@treystephens6166 It lacks historical detail, if you play the game you know what I mean, because there is no way an arisaka can be used in Europe back in ww2.
I didn't know that cod vanguard had so much graphic quality 😱😱😱
Been my least favorite of the CODs.
Arcade style. That's ok with me. The title is the reason this is so bombed on.
Does it work with PS VR2?
I guess this guy is an ace!
I'll stick to warthunder Sim for my console flying adventures 😂
Looks great but it's way to assisted you should be able to miss the bomb drops stuff like that
これはゲームであって現実はもっと過酷だったはずです。
I’ve been on the midway ship
Thach Weave ‘em!!!
Keep em coming Champ🔥great videos
Funny enough there wasn’t any black naval pilots.
Love the graphics BUT Dauntless shooting down Zeroes??! 😮
i like this mission but hated the historical blunders and vanguard
In school the history students must play games. This way they would probably know evrrything! 😂😂
SBD's were dive bombers not fighters. The wild cats were the protection
Nice game i love it❤❤
BF3 sieht ja besser aus und das ist ja schon alte 😂😂😂
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Yeah totally realistic...running down the flight deck while aircraft are launching
nope nope battlefield plane mechanics /controls are unmatched. Thats like a reoccurring thing, right?
ESSA TÁ QUENTEEE 🔥