this is about as peak pc performance in a laptop class as it can get....computer processing chips have hit Moore's law limit and pushing it further either will not have much of a gain or it will actually dip because the laws of thermodynamics...it's like reaching Max-Q of a space shuttle
@@kenhew4641silicium probably still can multiply performance a few times and once they finally ditch it for graphene or another material we'll still see further improvements. Sure one day we might reach a limit but it won't be this laptop...
I've spent about a week looking at all 13900hx / 4090 laptops honestly the Lenovo is the most cost effective one overall. I even found a referb that was configured with 64gb ram and 8tb HD. I snagged that up for 3k out the door. That was a killer deal compared to origin, falcon-nw, asus or msi. That configure would have been 4-5k on specd laptop like that.
Long time watcher and it's hilarious I bought THIS EXACT laptop and got ut yesterday! I can say for sure its a f***ing beast! Such a big upgrade from my last laptop in terms of build, feel, and needless to say power! This things is more powerful than my desktop 3090!
Thats impressive honestly. Especially the 60fps on Starfield. Does it bypass the battery entirely if you have it plugged in to the wall/powerbank? That would be cool
I have an older Lenovo Legion and it does, completely, I even have mine set to only charge the battery to 50-60%, so I’d assume this does, like most gaming laptops
Ive been alwaysbusing Lenovo computers I have over 8 years old Lenovo laptop and over 1 year old new Lenovo Legion pc, I am so hyped for Lenovo Legion Go handheld gaming pc and that Legion 7i pro looks powerful laptop but over 3000€ is over my budjet. That video was good. 🔥🔥
A real hoss of a laptop. I’m not huge into it, but cool that the option exists for people who have the proper use case for it. Wanna run emulation on it?
The most beautiful and cleanest looking RTX 4090 laptop, I love Lenovo! Has literally everything from high refresh screen, high resolution screen, good cooling, not loud when gaming, decent speakers (not that those matter), upgradable ram/ssd, the best keyboard you will find on a gaming laptop, decent battery life, good port selection, HD camera for business meetings and a lot of extra features.
They work well in this segment, but I had an asus rog and bad experience with warranty issues and so on, and I think next time I would go to a desktop.
I'll be getting a '24 version 7i pro 4090 soon, with the newer 14900hx processor. Part of me wants to save a little more, and get the 9i, but I'm not sold on the liquid cooling, it's experimental, and seemingly unnecessary, imo. I just don't know how that will hold up, in the long run.
I remember spending 2k on a top spec alienware 11 years ago seemed high. It still boots and plays quite a few newish games. Only 2gb vram. Built like a tank.
your videos are some of the first videos that i ever noticed that i had a possible influence in by suggesting a few things. last year i think i affected the Ukraine war in a few different ways.
tell me who is running "any" gaming laptop on battery alone? no one buys laptops to go gaming on battery alone. its just not possible for prolonged gaming sessions over an hour at the least.
This is a good laptop but what i dont think gets called out enough with it is the keyboard flex in one specific area: the wasd area. Its insane how much it flexes right there. Look it up online and a lot of people have this issue with it. Not a deal breaker as in actual use its not a huge deal but obviously id rather not have that flex, and no reviewers really mention it.
i'm torn between this and the 4080 option. I wanted a 4090 as it's a much closer equivalent to the 4080 fe in my desktop rig but not sure it's worth £650 when absolute rare best case scenario is 30% faster.
@@RockstarRomaniaYeah 90% of the time in this situation but I just purchased this in a 4090..... Just because I cannot live with a GPU 1 off the best..... lol worth it
Not enough info about exactly what kind of battery life could be expected, which makes me wonder whether on a practical level, this is little more than a slim desktop.
I find "desktop replacement" a difficult term. For me, a true desktop replacing machine is a device which stays "healthy" for years of use. A machine with parts I can replace when they break and is meant for service. I had a gaming laptop a few years ago, used it for about 2 years as my main pc. But even though I was not gaming on a bed, it was collecting dust like mad (before I get comments, we do clean our house..). I had to open it up and clean out the fans ever 3-4 months, and repasted it twice with significant perfomance gains after that. But, after two years, screws were worn out, plastic thingies broke off even though I was maximum careful. And as I mainly bought the machine for lan parties, I found that gaming for hours on a 17 inch screen is just not optimal. I had my eye (and prepurchased) on an Eblaztr for a while, but this turns out to be a scam. At least, I won't see my money back. That idea was great though.
That's what I said for a long time.. then got a MSI 2070 laptop ( not the low power efficient GPU) . And it's been a work horse since 2018 but now it's considered Old 😢. Nothing is king forever
@@MrSpaced123 other than mobility, there's something appealing about having a clean, all in one setup for a computer without the clutter of wires and separate peripherals attached like monitors speakers keyboard mouse external drives lan cables taking up the space of an entire table top.
With a Laptop we sometimes face the problem of the Intel GPU doing the monitor output. With the IGFX drivers I can not do a custom resolution, to match the HDMI output to a 4k tv (changing resolution every game bootup sucks). So the second a saw a 4k HDR monitor on a laptop, I knew it was what I was going to get. Got one second hand, with first gen RTX and is my current gen gaming machine tell next gen or even beyond with thunderbolt Gpus becoming more streamlined.
@@crestofhonor2349 Great as Nvidia has a kickass custom resolution option for monitors to match a 4k tv. Nothing worse then every startup having to change settings.
I just bought the 7I pro from Microcenter in Dallas Tx for $2699. The only upgrade I added was a 2 TB SSD for about $110 for total 3 TB. Its absolutly amazing, and while expensive, a great value on a 4090 laptop. The MSI and Asus comparable models were $3500 or more. I was concerned about the IPS display and preferred Min LED or oled, but this is the best IPS monitor I've ever seen. No light bleed, good blacks, bright at 500 nits, its been great. And the keyboard is fantastic. Not mechanical but very solid and one of the best I've used on a laptop. 100% satisfied.
I got the 4080 version of this. Not super impressed. Out of the box, opening apps is slower than my last laptop, a 9th gen i7 and rtx 2070. Just not seeing anything mind blowing really.
please reply, how can we use the live desktop wallpapers for free?! pretty awesome
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I bought this laptop specifically to play Starfield, and it's been knocking out of the park so far. I have been meaning to try undervolting it and tuning it to squeeze every bit of performance I can get. But I've been out of the loop and running stock hardware for a while now, are there any good guides to doing this with these kinds of laptops? I'm currently still looking at doing research on it and seeking recommendations.
9:20 What's the point of using "Ultra settings" and then scale the resolution down? To get some extra FPS you lost by using "Ultra settings"? This will just look like ass, even if you don't care about added processing time/latency. You might as well lower some details.. This way of "benchmarking" is super stupid, in my opinion.
What amazes me is how powerful this machine is and it can’t do 4k 60fps with Ray tracing. But the Ps5 and Xbox series x was supposed to? Lmao when are people going to sue them for lying and false advertising. The pc world has shown the console market lied to us big time!!!
Hello, I have just bought the laptop you discussed and I have a question. Do you know anything about thermal insulation? That is, is there paste or maybe liquid metal implemented on the graphics card and processor? Regards.
It's also one of the only laptops with 240hz display which I really wanted for competitive gaming all others are running 120/144hz displays. One even has mini led which is nice but the GTG response times are higher. Idk based on my hours of research for competitive gaming and bang for buck the Lenovo is definitely the best 13900hx/4090 laptop on market.
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Amazing specs, and an equally impressive $2,800 price tag.
Only 4300 USD in Europe.
If you ask me that’s steal, Alienware is asking 4K for those specs razer must be along the lines too
Bloody hell, this thing costs £3,200 (cheapest) in the UK!!
in Brazil it would cost 6k USD because of taxes
shame it's not OLED with that price
Until the next power laptop he gets
this is about as peak pc performance in a laptop class as it can get....computer processing chips have hit Moore's law limit and pushing it further either will not have much of a gain or it will actually dip because the laws of thermodynamics...it's like reaching Max-Q of a space shuttle
@@kenhew4641silicium probably still can multiply performance a few times and once they finally ditch it for graphene or another material we'll still see further improvements. Sure one day we might reach a limit but it won't be this laptop...
@@kenhew4641on point
Probably gonna be a good long while till that happens. I’m personally not a fan of this laptop, but it’s about as powerful as it gets.
No because Legions are one of the best gaming laptops
I've spent about a week looking at all 13900hx / 4090 laptops honestly the Lenovo is the most cost effective one overall. I even found a referb that was configured with 64gb ram and 8tb HD. I snagged that up for 3k out the door. That was a killer deal compared to origin, falcon-nw, asus or msi. That configure would have been 4-5k on specd laptop like that.
Did you purchase the referb on eBay?
Man.... your wallpaper game is unmatched. Where do you get your wallpapers? Especially the neon anime ones.
Lenovo cooking handheld and laptop 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Long time watcher and it's hilarious I bought THIS EXACT laptop and got ut yesterday! I can say for sure its a f***ing beast! Such a big upgrade from my last laptop in terms of build, feel, and needless to say power! This things is more powerful than my desktop 3090!
I really like Lenovo's Legion laptops. Really nice and easy to use software as well.
hell yeah microcenter is an awesome store! I'm glad they r sponsoring videos like this ! \m/
I was shaking watching it run those games like that... this thing is a *BEAST*
I'd expect an OLED screen on a laptop that retails for over three grand.
Not many gaming laptops have OLED screens, probably due to refresh rates. They seem to be used mostly on "creator" laptops.
Same no OLED is a fail at this price
@@Max_Mustermann msi had a one with OLED 240Hz last year, so it's not refresh issue.
@@Max_Mustermannits burn in, which is less of an issue now. But many people worry about it still
@@Ali-Sensei Maybe there's another reason. But there are very few gaming laptops with OLED screens.
What a beast! May be time for me to trade with my older Lenovo Legion. Thanks for the review.
Thanks a bunch for testing Starfield, upgraded from a HP Omen 3070 laptop to this just for Starfield (And Adobe Illustrator on the go).
Funny thing now that you've mentioned it i also bought this laptop few days ago for Starfield.
Congrats on 1 Million ETA PRIME! You earned them subs through all your years of grinding. Proud of you man
I have the 4080 version and I can vouch for it!
Dang boy, you rich
@@donniedarko4497 bought it mainly for AI research purposes, sadly I don't have much time for gaming nowadays.
Nah, the 4080 is a poor man's 4090@@donniedarko4497
Me too, an absolute beast!
Just bought the 4080 version as well. First laptop purchased in about 7-8 years. I wonder if I'll notice any major differences...
Thats impressive honestly. Especially the 60fps on Starfield.
Does it bypass the battery entirely if you have it plugged in to the wall/powerbank? That would be cool
I have an older Lenovo Legion and it does, completely, I even have mine set to only charge the battery to 50-60%, so I’d assume this does, like most gaming laptops
@@itsjuank very nice 👌
"60 FPS is impressive"
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
My commodore 64 can run starfield 4k with ray tracing at 240 fps....not impressed
@@191. It's more down to the game being ass, not the lack of power. Welcome to game dev in 2023...
My pc back when I was little had 64 MB of ram and no video card. and a Pentium processor... single core. this is insane.
On to the important stuff. Where do i get that train live wallpaper. XD
Impressive and a price tag to match. Love the sick wallpapers you always have on machines. Where do you get them from?
Wallpaper engine
Now there is the new Lenovo Legion 9i with an integrated Water Cooler inside the Laptop
Yes, it's very beautiful but incredibly expensive!
Ive been alwaysbusing Lenovo computers I have over 8 years old Lenovo laptop and over 1 year old new Lenovo Legion pc, I am so hyped for Lenovo Legion Go handheld gaming pc and that Legion 7i pro looks powerful laptop but over 3000€ is over my budjet. That video was good. 🔥🔥
Would be nice if they cut down the battery size for more thermal space and less noise / heat.
Thanks for showing Elden Ring! That's the only game I have of the ones you show. It's really helpful for you to show it.
Basically max out every single game at 60+ fps at ultra, if only I could afford such a overkill laptop 😭
Please dont ever change your intro, it feels like i am at home with a rainy day
*It's crazy how much power you can cram into a laptop!*
How do that youtube symbol
A real hoss of a laptop. I’m not huge into it, but cool that the option exists for people who have the proper use case for it. Wanna run emulation on it?
The most beautiful and cleanest looking RTX 4090 laptop, I love Lenovo! Has literally everything from high refresh screen, high resolution screen, good cooling, not loud when gaming, decent speakers (not that those matter), upgradable ram/ssd, the best keyboard you will find on a gaming laptop, decent battery life, good port selection, HD camera for business meetings and a lot of extra features.
Hey do a video on gigabyte 4060 low profile GPU. Make a new itx pc.😎👍 I believe it's on Amazon for 329 or so.
Adding dlss in a 4090 is nuts.
I think Lenovo legion are the very best gaming laptops you can buy. I have last years model, Still amazing.
They work well in this segment, but I had an asus rog and bad experience with warranty issues and so on, and I think next time I would go to a desktop.
I'll be getting a '24 version 7i pro 4090 soon, with the newer 14900hx processor. Part of me wants to save a little more, and get the 9i, but I'm not sold on the liquid cooling, it's experimental, and seemingly unnecessary, imo. I just don't know how that will hold up, in the long run.
I remember spending 2k on a top spec alienware 11 years ago seemed high. It still boots and plays quite a few newish games. Only 2gb vram. Built like a tank.
I love your reviews, I've always wanted to see how cpus like this would do with an Audio workstation
Just bought this used for $2k. Love it
@@demonhogo congrats on the good deal, how was it's physical condition?
I got a 2060 Legion and it's lacking. I need this 4090 job
I have MSI 2070 since 2019 and it still serves me well
@ 3200$ your viewers cant afford this!
well, what do they say, with great power comes great price
@@kenhew4641and great unafordability lol
your videos are some of the first videos that i ever noticed that i had a possible influence in by suggesting a few things. last year i think i affected the Ukraine war in a few different ways.
Good enough for Oldschool Runescape
tell me who is running "any" gaming laptop on battery alone? no one buys laptops to go gaming on battery alone. its just not possible for prolonged gaming sessions over an hour at the least.
Get a legion 7 from 2021. You can get a nice 3080 with 16gb at half the price. I have the 3060, and runs every game you can think of.
Its great but I prefer 17 inch and mini led screen like Acer Predator Triton 17 X. Maybe will buy it one day
Wallpaper thumbnail?
love your videos
Micro Center before they advertise themselves they need to allow their customers to select delivery option.
impressive for the watts used
You should include thermal and fan noise on the review.
This is a good laptop but what i dont think gets called out enough with it is the keyboard flex in one specific area: the wasd area. Its insane how much it flexes right there. Look it up online and a lot of people have this issue with it. Not a deal breaker as in actual use its not a huge deal but obviously id rather not have that flex, and no reviewers really mention it.
Which laptop you prefer over this ?
i'm torn between this and the 4080 option. I wanted a 4090 as it's a much closer equivalent to the 4080 fe in my desktop rig but not sure it's worth £650 when absolute rare best case scenario is 30% faster.
Get the 4080 honestly.
@@RockstarRomaniaYeah 90% of the time in this situation but I just purchased this in a 4090..... Just because I cannot live with a GPU 1 off the best..... lol worth it
the problem of laptop gaming is the cooling system, it only has exhaust, not cooling.
RTX 4090M is just a RTX 4070 at 150W with 16GB insterad of 12GB and 200W TDP.
It's closer to an RTX 4080 at least at the higher wattages
@@crestofhonor2349 Nvidia magic? At what wattages? 300W? It'ss based on same chip as 4070. No 4080 or 4090 chips are used as mobile device.
mobile gpus have always been like that, but the 4090m is still the most powerful mobile gpu that you can have right now
I keep thinking a Top End Gamer Laptop Has to be three inches thick, snot green and has a power supply the size and weight of a cinderblock.
Not enough info about exactly what kind of battery life could be expected, which makes me wonder whether on a practical level, this is little more than a slim desktop.
Id like to see how this performs on an external 4k display
I own this laptop for a few months. Love it. Mine is the 4080 version.
I'm looking at that version since I can get it for around $2k.
Please could you teardown?
I find "desktop replacement" a difficult term. For me, a true desktop replacing machine is a device which stays "healthy" for years of use. A machine with parts I can replace when they break and is meant for service.
I had a gaming laptop a few years ago, used it for about 2 years as my main pc. But even though I was not gaming on a bed, it was collecting dust like mad (before I get comments, we do clean our house..). I had to open it up and clean out the fans ever 3-4 months, and repasted it twice with significant perfomance gains after that.
But, after two years, screws were worn out, plastic thingies broke off even though I was maximum careful. And as I mainly bought the machine for lan parties, I found that gaming for hours on a 17 inch screen is just not optimal.
I had my eye (and prepurchased) on an Eblaztr for a while, but this turns out to be a scam. At least, I won't see my money back. That idea was great though.
I could Imagine Going To micro center in Seguin Texas Yes
i9 + rtx4090? check the temps after 2 hours on ultra settings, I'm quite curiuos
no oculink lame one of the main upgrades i am planning for my framework is a oculink adapter for the GPU spot
U got the fasted handy and fastest laptop . For 3 weeks at best ;)
Nice wallpaper at the beginning. Can you send the link for it?
Man i could trade my kidney for one of this
When i saw the price on my region, i said, "that motherf*cker very expensive."
The case design is nice. Small bezels, clean lines, no garish "gamer" elements.
I would like to see either Bazzite or ChimeraOS running on it.
One day ill get a laptop like this
That's what I said for a long time.. then got a MSI 2070 laptop ( not the low power efficient GPU) .
And it's been a work horse since 2018 but now it's considered Old 😢.
Nothing is king forever
unless you need the mobility I really wouldnt ever bother with a laptop, next to no upgrade path and dank cooling
@@MrSpaced123 other than mobility, there's something appealing about having a clean, all in one setup for a computer without the clutter of wires and separate peripherals attached like monitors speakers keyboard mouse external drives lan cables taking up the space of an entire table top.
Micro center got you cuh
You finally got a good gaming laptop!
Brought to you by MicroCenter...with zero locations in the RDU area. :D
Where, pray tell, did those animated wallpapers you use come from, kind Sir? 🙂
What about a Lenovo Legion 7i vs Asus ROG Strix Scar G16 with Nebula Display .... which one is better???
Nice temp below 78 except starfield 90c
With a Laptop we sometimes face the problem of the Intel GPU doing the monitor output. With the IGFX drivers I can not do a custom resolution, to match the HDMI output to a 4k tv (changing resolution every game bootup sucks). So the second a saw a 4k HDR monitor on a laptop, I knew it was what I was going to get. Got one second hand, with first gen RTX and is my current gen gaming machine tell next gen or even beyond with thunderbolt Gpus becoming more streamlined.
This laptop has all the video out ports connected directly to the RTX 4090 mobile
@@crestofhonor2349 Great as Nvidia has a kickass custom resolution option for monitors to match a 4k tv. Nothing worse then every startup having to change settings.
Nice Background Animation. Is this a specific App?
Probably wallpaper engine
but one day i will buy you pro 7i just you wait
I believe it is called Legion Pro 7i
Do a 1k budget laptop next
Very nice review! - What are the titles/names of the wallpaper in Wallpaper Engine are you using? I'm trying to find them but I can't. Thanks!
Infinite journeys
@eta prime was wondering about the wallpaper
I just bought the 7I pro from Microcenter in Dallas Tx for $2699. The only upgrade I added was a 2 TB SSD for about $110 for total 3 TB. Its absolutly amazing, and while expensive, a great value on a 4090 laptop. The MSI and Asus comparable models were $3500 or more. I was concerned about the IPS display and preferred Min LED or oled, but this is the best IPS monitor I've ever seen. No light bleed, good blacks, bright at 500 nits, its been great. And the keyboard is fantastic. Not mechanical but very solid and one of the best I've used on a laptop. 100% satisfied.
Fantastic.
Impressive, but I don’t like 80+ C’
Im in need for laptop with 1080p 240hz playing Apex, but ain't got no money 😢
I got the 4080 version of this. Not super impressed. Out of the box, opening apps is slower than my last laptop, a 9th gen i7 and rtx 2070. Just not seeing anything mind blowing really.
Wow nice!
If only I have 3 grands laying around.
Always curious about that train video wallpaper and where to get it
What's the wallpaper used on your demos with the train ride? Is that something you've downloaded or created yourself? Thanks
Can it run Starfield,Has it taken Cyberpunk crown as hardest popular Game to run ?
dude were did you get the wallpaper we need to know
What’s the best for gaming this version or the AMD version?
can you please test out some FPS games like - call of duty , fortnite ?
please reply, how can we use the live desktop wallpapers for free?! pretty awesome
I bought this laptop specifically to play Starfield, and it's been knocking out of the park so far.
I have been meaning to try undervolting it and tuning it to squeeze every bit of performance I can get. But I've been out of the loop and running stock hardware for a while now, are there any good guides to doing this with these kinds of laptops? I'm currently still looking at doing research on it and seeking recommendations.
9:20 What's the point of using "Ultra settings" and then scale the resolution down? To get some extra FPS you lost by using "Ultra settings"?
This will just look like ass, even if you don't care about added processing time/latency. You might as well lower some details..
This way of "benchmarking" is super stupid, in my opinion.
What amazes me is how powerful this machine is and it can’t do 4k 60fps with Ray tracing. But the Ps5 and Xbox series x was supposed to? Lmao when are people going to sue them for lying and false advertising. The pc world has shown the console market lied to us big time!!!
Hello, I have just bought the laptop you discussed and I have a question. Do you know anything about thermal insulation? That is, is there paste or maybe liquid metal implemented on the graphics card and processor? Regards.
It's also one of the only laptops with 240hz display which I really wanted for competitive gaming all others are running 120/144hz displays. One even has mini led which is nice but the GTG response times are higher. Idk based on my hours of research for competitive gaming and bang for buck the Lenovo is definitely the best 13900hx/4090 laptop on market.
Were you on custom or performance mode while benchmarking these games??