Was delighted to hear that Hms Trooper had at last been found. Our Aunt Sarah b, 1925 born in Rothesay, Isle of Bute, Scotland, got married to Samuel Fleming in 26 Oct 1942 in Rothesay . Samuel Fleming was born 1921 in Broxburn, West Lothian. He was an Able Seaman on Hms Trooper when the submarine went missing,. His death is recorded on the UK Naval Memorial, in Chatham, Kent . Age 22. Hms Trooper sunk and posted missing off the Island of Leros in the Mediteranean on the 17 th Oct 1943.. A year after he married.. The book Hms Trooper I have in my possesion.. Gone but not forgotten,, fair winds and calm seas.. RIP.. Peter Connor . ex RN.. Sep 1966--to Nov 1973..
My Great Uncle Denis Seddon was a stocker first class on Trooper and died on her aged 23. It's good that the family now know his final resting place. RIP Denis and all your crewmates
The T Class were very large ocean going submarines pressed into service in the Mediterranean for which they were unsuitable according to expert naval historians.
I just saw a brief documentary on this vessel, at the end of which Trooper had not been found. It was long enough ago that I had forgotten the name-but when the crew was shown here, I said, “I know that flag!” May their souls rest easy. I am gratified that their resting place is finally known. 💖 ⚓️ 🏴
Ten Kiosk bardzo podobny do O.R.P Orzeł 85A - To samo mogło spotkać polska łódź na morzu północnym. Cześć i chwała Brytyjskim i Polskim bohaterom drugiej wojny światowej... 🏴 🇵🇱
...and we all here in Poland are waiting for a good news, that the resting place of our Orzeł (Eagle) has been found. The famous boat disappeared without trace after 8th day of June 1940. ♍🇵🇱🇬🇧👍
The actual mines themselves are attached to a concrete sinker / anchor by a chain that allows the mine to float at the depth you want. The Italian navy was really proficient in this type of warfare.
I am so glad HM Trooper has finally been found leading stoker Harold Graham Horton who was on board that fateful journey was my mums first cousin my mother was named after Harold mother Ida she passed in 1991 and Harold name has been added to her headstone he was her only child
if it was an explosion most likely not, water would have flooded in too quickly if you weren't already gone from the first impact and then you're drowning trying to find a way out in pitch black darkness once the power is gone.
I very much doubt it with a 350kg magnetic mine being set off and I reckon it could have also set off the torpedoes as well which explains how the bow got blown off
Can anyone who put this video together confirm if the closing photo is of the crew of Trooper. If it is then it will have my Great Uncle on it and we don't have that photo or any of him in service. The sub number in the background doesn't look like N91 which was HMS Trooper's number.
The British submarine HMS TROOPER the traces of which disappeared in October 1943 has been discovered at a depth of 253 meters in the Aegean Sea, after a 26 year search! It is the eighth sunken submarine discovered by Kostas Thoctarides' research team! HMS TROOPER, commanded by Lieutenant John S. Wraith, sailed from Beirut on her eighth offensive patrol on 26 September 1943 and was ordered to sail to the Aegean. On 5 October 1943, the British had information about a new German operation with Leros as a possible target. So the submarine TROOPER was ordered to patrol between Donousa and Ikaria. From there onwards the traces of TROOPER disappeared and when on 17th October, that she was due to return to Beirut, she did not turn up she was considered lost. Initially the research was focused on the minefields of Leros and then Kalymnos and Kos. Ten sea minefields were searched without finding Trooper. On October 14, 1943, an event took place which was the cause of the disorientation of all research in relation to the sinking of the TROOPER. The caique LS8, belonging to the Levant Schooner Flotilla (LSF), had an encounter with a British "T" class submarine that surfaced alongside it in Alinda Bay in Leros. The Captain of the caique Commander Adrian Seligman, described in his book "War in the islands" his encounter with the submarine, which he believed to be HMS TROOPER, as he said he recognised the loud voice of Lieutenant Wraith. This information was adopted as it coincided with the order the British Admiralty had sent to TROOPER, and post-war this version was further strengthened when the minefields in the area became known. Researchers S. Vougidis and K. Thoctarides while studying the logs and reports of British submarines found that the report of the captain of HMS TORBAY contained the incident in Leros - exactly as Seligman described it! It was not the TROOPER but TORBAY submarine that Seligman had seen! So the research was moved to the area where Trooper was patrolling between 6 and 9 October 1943, in the Aegean Sea. The wreck of HMS TROOPER was located in international territorial waters north of Donoussa, at a depth of 253 metres, on one of the five German minefields that the mine-laying ship DRACHE had laid on 26 September 1943. The 84-metre-long TROOPER is cut into three distinct sections, bow, middle section and stern, which confirms a very violent sinking after a mine explosion.The sinking of the submarine was caused by a German EMF mine containing 350 kg of hexane. The result of the explosion was the immediate sinking of the submarine... with the submarine breaking into three pieces.First the bow sank, then the stern and lastly the middle section, which remained on the surface for a few minutes. The bow and stern lie on the seabed in close proximity, while the submarine's conning tower has been detached and lies much further away. Throughout the entire exploration, no intervention or disturbance of any kind was made to the wreck, as it is a wet grave of the 64 men of the crew of HMS TROOPER.
Wont touch anything on this wreck but will gladly loot other wrecks that contain valuables. People had no problem looting the HMS Ediburgh so don't give me that crap about it being a war grave.
Was delighted to hear that Hms Trooper had at last been found. Our Aunt Sarah b, 1925 born in Rothesay, Isle of Bute, Scotland, got married to Samuel Fleming in 26 Oct 1942 in Rothesay . Samuel Fleming was born 1921 in Broxburn, West Lothian. He was an Able Seaman on Hms Trooper when the submarine went missing,. His death is recorded on the UK Naval Memorial, in Chatham, Kent . Age 22. Hms Trooper sunk and posted missing off the Island of Leros in the Mediteranean on the 17 th Oct 1943.. A year after he married.. The book Hms Trooper I have in my possesion.. Gone but not forgotten,, fair winds and calm seas.. RIP.. Peter Connor . ex RN.. Sep 1966--to Nov 1973..
HMS/M Trooper, still on patrol, fair winds and following seas, shipmates forever, rest in peace. 🇬🇧⚓️
Rest in Peace 🙏🏻🙏🏻
RIP TO ALL, excellent video🙏🏽🙏🏽
My Great Uncle Denis Seddon was a stocker first class on Trooper and died on her aged 23. It's good that the family now know his final resting place. RIP Denis and all your crewmates
He probably knew my grandads uncle he was a stoaker on board too he was 21 😢
salute to the crewmen and salute to all those who have given closure by this film to brave men who gave their live for freedom
R.I.P. crewmen of the HMS Trooper.
Εξαιρετικό, συγκινητικό, μοναδικό! Όπως κάθε σου έρευνα Κώστα! Σ΄ευχαριστούμε!
Tragic and Sad...
The T Class were very large ocean going submarines pressed into service in the Mediterranean for which they were unsuitable according to expert naval historians.
You could see them from above.. so yes.. somewhat unsuitable.
The families have finally closure as a direct result of this gentleman’s determination. Many thanks, and may they rest in peace.
The skipper just entered a minefield. The sub failed to detect the mines, lack of equipment those days.
RIP to all my Brothers who have "crossed the bar" 🏴☠️🥃
Συγχαρητήρια για την επιμονή και την έρευνα!
I just saw a brief documentary on this vessel, at the end of which Trooper had not been found. It was long enough ago that I had forgotten the name-but when the crew was shown here, I said, “I know that flag!”
May their souls rest easy. I am gratified that their resting place is finally known.
💖 ⚓️ 🏴
Ten Kiosk bardzo podobny do O.R.P Orzeł 85A - To samo mogło spotkać polska łódź na morzu północnym. Cześć i chwała Brytyjskim i Polskim bohaterom drugiej wojny światowej... 🏴 🇵🇱
Submariners balls of steel .Rip.
Respect
why are door and hatches open? Was it on the surface when sunk?
Yes on the surface
Most likely on the surface running diesels to recharge batteries, replenish air supply and look for Axis targets. RIP.
RIP all those on HMS Trooper, on eternal patrol. Fair winds and calm seas
...and we all here in Poland are waiting for a good news, that the resting place of our Orzeł (Eagle) has been found. The famous boat disappeared without trace after 8th day of June 1940. ♍🇵🇱🇬🇧👍
Somewhere off Cape Bon Sicily, the HMS Tetrarch was lost in late '41. I hope she is found, my uncle was serving on her
How do you lay mines in 230 metres depth water? How were these deep minefields de-activated after the war?
They mostly rot out after a few years.. though some were able fo detonate a couple of decades later ..
The actual mines themselves are attached to a concrete sinker / anchor by a chain that allows the mine to float at the depth you want. The Italian navy was really proficient in this type of warfare.
Many mines broke their chains and floated away appearing in many places.
I am so glad HM Trooper has finally been found leading stoker Harold Graham Horton who was on board that fateful journey was my mums first cousin my mother was named after Harold mother Ida she passed in 1991 and Harold name has been added to her headstone he was her only child
Amazing
Bravo to the unrelenting crew who found her, & to those lost souls, home at last, waiting no more. Peace to their survivors now together
Fair winds and kind seas lads hopefully your patrol has ended in a better place RIP
Aquilo aos 2:20 no canto superior direito não parece ser a caveira de um dos tripulantes?
is the nozzle of the voice pipe.
Damn Nazis! RIP lads!
Did any of the crew survive the war? Open doors ?
it is a wet grave of the 64 men of the crew of HMS TROOPER
if it was an explosion most likely not, water would have flooded in too quickly if you weren't already gone from the first impact and then you're drowning trying to find a way out in pitch black darkness once the power is gone.
I very much doubt it with a 350kg magnetic mine being set off and I reckon it could have also set off the torpedoes as well which explains how the bow got blown off
@@fizzinsoda Reading your comment made me feel terrible. The idea of working in a submarine always gave me almost a panic attack.
🇬🇧♥️⚘️🙏Lest We Forget 🙏⚘️♥️🇬🇧
So this is the world's best undetectable submarine👌
Can anyone who put this video together confirm if the closing photo is of the crew of Trooper. If it is then it will have my Great Uncle on it and we don't have that photo or any of him in service. The sub number in the background doesn't look like N91 which was HMS Trooper's number.
RIP MeBoyos
Repouse em Paz .
Where,when,how?
Icarian sea, 1943, hit a mine
The British submarine HMS TROOPER the traces of which disappeared in October 1943 has been discovered at a depth of 253 meters in the Aegean Sea, after a 26 year search! It is the eighth sunken submarine discovered by Kostas Thoctarides' research team! HMS TROOPER, commanded by Lieutenant John S. Wraith, sailed from Beirut on her eighth offensive patrol on 26 September 1943 and was ordered to sail to the Aegean.
On 5 October 1943, the British had information about a new German operation with Leros as a possible target. So the submarine TROOPER was ordered to patrol between Donousa and Ikaria. From there onwards the traces of TROOPER disappeared and when on 17th October, that she was due to return to Beirut, she did not turn up she was considered lost. Initially the research was focused on the minefields of Leros and then Kalymnos and Kos. Ten sea minefields were searched without finding Trooper. On October 14, 1943, an event took place which was the cause of the disorientation of all research in relation to the sinking of the TROOPER. The caique LS8, belonging to the Levant Schooner Flotilla (LSF), had an encounter with a British "T" class submarine that surfaced alongside it in Alinda Bay in Leros. The Captain of the caique Commander Adrian Seligman, described in his book "War in the islands" his encounter with the submarine, which he believed to be HMS TROOPER, as he said he recognised the loud voice of Lieutenant Wraith. This information was adopted as it coincided with the order the British Admiralty had sent to TROOPER, and post-war this version was further strengthened when the minefields in the area became known. Researchers S. Vougidis and K. Thoctarides while studying the logs and reports of British submarines found that the report of the captain of HMS TORBAY contained the incident in Leros - exactly as Seligman described it! It was not the TROOPER but TORBAY submarine that Seligman had seen! So the research was moved to the area where Trooper was patrolling between 6 and 9 October 1943, in the Aegean Sea. The wreck of HMS TROOPER was located in international territorial waters north of Donoussa, at a depth of 253 metres, on one of the five German minefields that the mine-laying ship DRACHE had laid on 26 September 1943. The 84-metre-long TROOPER is cut into three distinct sections, bow, middle section and stern, which confirms a very violent sinking after a mine explosion.The sinking of the submarine was caused by a German EMF mine containing 350 kg of hexane. The result of the explosion was the immediate sinking of the submarine... with the submarine breaking into three pieces.First the bow sank, then the stern and lastly the middle section, which remained on the surface for a few minutes.
The bow and stern lie on the seabed in close proximity, while the submarine's conning tower has been detached and lies much further away.
Throughout the entire exploration, no intervention or disturbance of any kind was made to the wreck, as it is a wet grave of the 64 men of the crew of HMS TROOPER.
WHERE IS ORP "ORZEŁ"?! ...
Here is the second T Class submarine found in Greece a year before. The HMS TRIUMPH at a depth of 203 m. ua-cam.com/video/JPCNHno0Qu4/v-deo.html
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Se ô submarino afundou vários navios antes de afundar foi feito justiça com quem ferro fere com ele e ferido.
China:
Free metal for our navy...
Wont touch anything on this wreck but will gladly loot other wrecks that contain valuables. People had no problem looting the HMS Ediburgh so don't give me that crap about it being a war grave.
If this is your first thought.......!!
Weird how doors and hatches open ???
They reckon it hit a mine, maybe blown open by the blast and implosion
@@SaltimusMaximus crew stood no chance...how bloody sad.
Likely running on the surface recharging batteries and getting fresh air at night, not knowing they were in a newly laid mine field.