If you want a more in-depth and honestly better explanation on the “decline” of Argentina this guy made really good video. - ua-cam.com/video/EeCu8pMHma0/v-deo.html
I have a question for you. first of. great work. i really enjoyed the video. Is there a chance you will do more of these vids about how geography could have made a country a super or great power? I would love for these kinds of vids to be about lesser done countries than the big ones ( russa,China,Brazil, South Africa) like the countries with huge potential like India ( or the subcontinent) Indonesia, DR Congo, Tanzania, Sudan before the south split. Ethiopia if it had a coastline, or Central African republic. Keep up the great work!
@@RK-cj4oc thank you! Unfortunately probably not though. At least for the time being. Geopolitics can get well…political and it takes away some of my enjoyment. Mistakes hold more weight on these as well, which is inevitable. It can come across as biased when that wasn’t the intention.
"there are four kinds of countries: developed countries, underdeveloped countries, Japan - nobody knows why it grows - and Argentina - nobody knows why it doesn't" Simon Kuznets
Japan and Argentina are the world's economic development wild cards. Japan could easily have modernized only at China's pace, and Argentina could have fulfilled its economic superpower potential as this video indicates.
@@yodorob Actually, Japan had been industrializing since the Meiji restoration in 1868. By World War II it was already industrialized. This set the foundation for its fast modernization afterward.
Wow that's really nice actually thank you for it. If may i ask why? What make some koreans to be so lovely to us argentinians? We like Korea also but i can't say it would be a whole nation Phenomena, more like a general feeling of good intent towards asían and koreans
I went to Patagonia in 2018 and was blown away. By far my favorite place on Earth. Buenos Aires is also, undoubtedly an amazing city. Spent 4 days there and could not get enough. Highly recommend. Great video as always!
I met some Argentinians in Olympic National Park a couple days ago and they were super cool and friendly people - I’ll be rooting for Argentina in this World Cup!
The few times I've been to Argentina I had the time of my life. What a beautiful country and people. It amazed me how big it is and all that it has to offer. But what stood out the most in my opinion was and will always be its people. They are such funny and friendly folks, believe me. Most of the times you engage a conversation with an argentinian you will probably end up laughing your a** out 😂. This also demonstrates how resilient they are as people. Despite all the ups and downs in the economy, socially and in politics I think every other country facing what they face on a daily basis would result in massive suicides or violent turmoils, but they laugh and joke their way out of it. They wake up every morning to go to work and add their two cents in the quest of making Argentina great again. Even if they often say they are doomed or not worth being a superpower, or even arrogant, their way of living life is unique and I think we all should learn from them. Man, I love Argentina ❤ Greetings from Argentina
An additional cause to argentinas failure i would add, is the constant changes in political and economical planification. Each time a new goverment arrives, it makes sure everything that was made by the previous one gets torn apart and start growing in a different direction. There are no long term plans in argentina, and while that persists, argentina wont see any major grow in any aspect. Greetings from Argentina, love your content
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS LETS MAKE ARGENTINA GREAT AGAIN! NO MORE CORRUPT KIRCHNERISM/PERONISM ITS THE MACHINE OF POPULISM WITH FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES! VOTE LOS LIBERTARIOS WITH JAVIER MILEI! THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR A NEW PROSPEROUS ARGENTINA! VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
@@J7Handle This is the same issue we see in the US, Canada, Europe, and elsewhere when governments spend without the intention of ever paying off their debt.
Argentina could have been a developed country long ago, and in fact, as the video showed it was in the rigth trace many years ago. I am chilean, and my first international travel was to visit my family (uncles and cousins) with my parents when I was 15, in 1978. To me, Argentina looked like the future. These were difficult times, and harsh time due to dictatorships on both countries. Neverrheless, after we got back to democracy, Chile, with less natural resources, has surpassed our neighbourgs. I hope they return to the right trace, for such a great country and people.
Es dificil para el resto del mundo entender lo que fueron las dictaduras en Latinoamérica, y que todavía seguimos en proceso de Descolonización(que de paso, esto llevó a muchos nacionalismos extremos que empeoraron la situación) Me alegro que te haya gustado Argentina hermano, siempre serán bienvenidos 😁 Latinoamérica unida, al igual que África, son los únicos actores que pueden cambiar el futuro horrible del que nos vienen advirtiendo todos los días xD Te manso un abrazo che 😁
Pinochet also liberalized Chile's economy because he listened to Milton Friedman's students. If Argentina had the same level of economic freedom as Chile they would have the same GDP per capita as Canada or the US.
The main difference between these two countries where the level of corruption in their sociaty, that's the reason Australia is s great power in all aspects and Argentina is not.
Agrgnrtina and the Ud were basically both similar when it came to gdp per Capita but both countries went completely different path the US went f down a much greater path becoming a superpower Argentina not so much.
@@ΣτέργιοςΚοσμίδης-ψ3τ there is about the same corruption proportionally, it's worse now, but australia wasnt more or less corrupt, australia was the scion of the greatest empire in the planet, that got rich of robbing blind half the world adn just kept being that way with their common wealth, argentina had no such niceties.
@@cseijifja Argentina had exactly the shame niceties, was part of a great empire the Spanish one, the culture is only difrend. The only difference is the way of thinking between these to civilizations. Argentina inherited the spanish and Italian way of thinking, corruption and how to become rich quick and Australia inherited the British way of thinking how to prevail in the long run.
Argentina's geographical location isn't that strategical to the trade route as it's located nearly in the "end of the world", so i guess they need to maximize their potential in agricultural exports and hi-tech sector
But, as briefly mentioned in the video, before the Panama Canal was built, if anybody wanted to go from anywhere in or around the Atlantic, to anywhere in or around the Pacific, only had two choices. Go around Africa, or go around S.America. The latter of which meant you probably had to stop at some point in Argentina to re-stock with supplies. That was definitely a geographical advantage both strategically and economically.
@@HugsmadeDrugs you seem to forget we have often be (poorly) ruled by military men, rich oligarchs, bankers, judges, and mafia. Some of them directly, some indirectly. They are NOT politicians and popular will never reach or touch them.
@@HugsmadeDrugs Not really. Most South American countries have huge wage gaps between the rich and the poor but Argentina's used to be much smaller has a huge middle class so the income inequality is far smaller. Like the video says Argentinians tend to live better than most South Americans ana they should be better but their politicians professinal kleptocrats.
Hand in hand are the politics of those that put these people in power. This gets to the real reasons Argentina is in the doldrums. Mismanagement and political mental illnesses.
Thinking of the Argentine decline problem I had always considered that the Panama Canal had to have a very important role by killing the influence of its ports. I don't think I've seen or read more than one or two people who ever brought it up. You'd be the second or third and that depth of thought is probably what makes your content great.
@@sc1338 I don’t know that that’s relevant tbh though . At the time Aus and NZ industrialised their markets were mostly European and North American. At the time Melbourne was the richest city in the world it nearly tied with Buenos Aires. Then Argentina had hyperinflation and Australia didn’t.
IT's not that it's "declined", it's that the "growth" in the US for the past several decades is based on fraud, deception and money printing. Yes, kinda hard to compete with that. And that goes for everywhere
Isn't there some joke/saying that goes something like this: "There are four types of countries in the world, poor countries with poor geography, rich countries with rich geography, Argentina, and Japan." Meaning that Argentina is poor with rich geography and Japan is the opposite.
I remember back in the 1980's. People who traveled to Argentina had to worry about having to pay a heavy duty on bringing Personal Computers into the country. I can't imagine that policies like that make it easy to develop a good technology industry.
It's much worse than that now with the oligarchy firmly in power, they will hold electronics for 6 months and still charge the VAT! It's impossible to do things there because of the government, thus, huge black market.
@@FreedomLovin We dont produce dollars, we only obtain this comodity selling grains, (that the big producers doesnt bring to the market cause they are waiting for the Peso to devaluate). We import more than 10k million dollars in energy every year + key supplies for the industries day to day , now 5% of the national badget is destined to pay the FMI debt, our Central Bank is running out of Usa currency and you are upset cause you cant buy hardware to mine crypto or play LOL?
@@emilianosilva8266 This is bewilderingly facetious. The same general import tax applies to hardware for most industries, including supplies for the few heavy industries that still remain. Argentina could have THE single largest automobile production market, complete with an EV battery branch, if the government wanted to. They need the tax from the materials needed to make that work, though, so instead of developing the most advanced vehicular production market in the world they'll piddle around taxing netbooks 10x times the price so their assembly lines in Tierra del Fuego can keep assembling cheap chinese shit that nobody will buy since it can't measure up to even a midrange brand computer, and is either gonna rot in storage on big box stores until it becomes ewaste or get donated as school supplies in yet another government plan.
Large companies take all their profits abroad and never invest it back in the country. Even leaving currency control out of the equation there's no way we can summon all dollars needed for industrial development. Argentina's agricultural elite is still much in in power and they're not interested a bit in the country's development. They just want their dollars out of the country and would do anything (specially meddling with politics and funding corrupt political parties) to have it their way
to my argenteans brothers I understand the struggle of corruption it runs in a latin america. I wish latin america would overcome this. we could literally become top economies. I hope for a prompt and soon economical recovery. Mexico🤝 Argentina will always be brothers! thanks for giving us great football and amazing music and super friendly ppl!
The political instability, economy mismanagement and constant military juntas should’ve been mentioned, not the only causes of course, but have had a very important role in the economic stagnation of the Country.
@@lorenzodell289 The military juntas are true guiltys for the underdevelopment in South America. Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Uruguay really suffered socially and economically with the dictatorships.
Its parasites like you that effect the growth of Argentina the only good thing Peronism contributed was the numerous advanced hospitals and schools and work protection for the middle class however they closed the doors to mass global trade and over protectionsit policies that eventually lead to Argentina's decline , and the ex vice President Cristina kirchner is the most corrupt pathetic witch that exists in Argentina I suggest that you dont have children since decent Argentine's dont want to go backwards with corrupt Kirchnerism your a disease that needs to be wiped out 🐀🧹💩! A new prosperous Argentina will commence with the Libertarians! VAMOS LIBERTARIOS VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁 @@LordMagnuss
If Argentina worked on it's economic policies and stopping reaching on the verge of bankruptcy every few years, many immigrants would want to move there (and skilled people as well) and would bring lots of capital with them and help generate lots of it too.
La bancarrota del pais se producen "gracias" a los gobiernos de Derecha o "promercados"...q endeudan irresponsable y demencialmente al Pais como fue el caso del iltimo q hubo entre 2015 y 2019 ( Macri) q pidio mas de U$ 100000 millones en 4 años incluido el ptestamo mas grandede la HISTORIA del FMI x U$57000 millones q dejaron al pais en bancarrota y q ahora sinicamente critican deberias saber estas cosas antes de criticar sin conocer...
A 3 second google search would have told you argentina has A LOT of immigration. We're a country made of immigrants, the reason we're on the verge of bankruptcy every few years is bc the USA can't stop getting their dirty fingers involved in places nobody wants them and ruining economies to stay at the top and continue to steal our resources.
location is also a huge factor. trade with Asia has to go through either the Drake Passage which has some of the worst seas on earth, or the strait of magellan which is notoriously difficult to navigate. its also in a pretty isolated part of the world without many regionally strong economies to trade with
@@dant5447 waters are ridiculously dangerous and unforgiving most of the year, navigating them is a death wish even with today's tehcnology, but yeah you can still make it if you try, it's just not worth it
No it isn't a huge factor. Argentina can use Chile for West coast transport and they could use the Panama Canal. The problem with Argentina is that it was always centrally managed economy that focused on agriculture and never diversified. Argentinians are "tomorrow we work people" and expect government services to fill their needs. For example, instead of investing in more oil production and refining to lower prices, the government subsidizes gas prices. It is a lazy country with no belief in work ethic. They always pursued the policies for autarky, therefore hostile to foreigner investment. Even today, being part of Mercosur, the flimsy economic agreement does not want foreigners to come in. Despite being supposedly literate, they are illiterate in many other subjects.
The whole southern cone should’ve been a regional superpower alongside Brazil as well. As well as Mexico. Maybe Mexico would have it better if a North American union were to happen. But that wouldn’t happen. Like an all Mexico movement could’ve made Mexico more North American than just a nationality.
As an American, I don't see Mexico as a friend. They almost stabbed us in the back during WWII and Mexico is stuck being a Socialist nation with all kinds of resources but the Socialist governments are paranoid that someone would want to take over that mess there. It is a shame Argentina has not ever matured into a great nation but the entire population is one big basket case.
Regional superpower is an oxymoron. Superpower is by its nature a global thing. If you are regional you are not a superpower. What's next, a household superpower?
@@Poctyk It's a thing, but they normally reserve it to the actual international superpower with they talk about it. Like they'll say China's the regional superpower because it's a super power in the world & that region but not really because it has challengers on the same level in its region
Dumb. The U.S. has absolutely nothing to do with Argentina’s decline. You heard it in this video. Perón, nationalized industries, corruption, social programs, printing money, hyper-inflation, protectionism. That’s all on Argentina. The U.S. had nothing to do with it unless you think the U.S. got Perón elected in the first place, somehow.
Exactly! Always blame someone else for your problems. It makes you feel better. Most things the video mentioned happened to most countries of the world, but consider Uruguay. Similar history, but different results. With fewer resources, Uruguay has nearly double the per capita GDP. Chile is another example of a country that doing pretty well, though they admittedly have better resources than Uruguay. If I'm not mistaken, they were also subject to the Monroe Doctrine, so I'm really confused by that statement. The idea that you have to challenge the US is for power just false. It's not a zero sum game; just run your country responsibly and develop your own economy. The mythical "they" have nothing against other powers in their region (Canada, for example). In fact, I'm sure the US feels that it would be useful to have more stable trading partners in the region. But a culture of corruption, irresponsible spending, and dependency on the government (or any other group) always, always leads to downfall. Honestly, Mexico and Brazil should also be powers, but they have all had similar issues.
@@onehorsetoomany8006don't you see any pattern there? Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia... all four are the largest, richest, potentially challengers to USA continental domination. So PART of the argument is true: USA meddles too much to hamper all them. But still that's NOT the only obstacle. Cuba kicked USA out and it took them long time to starting to level up their economy. And even if they can blame it on the sanctions, nobody fools himself the sanctions are not the only reason that held them back.
I think that it's a bit of a stretch to say that Argentina could be a superpower, or even a major power. I would say that Argentina does have the potential, with good government, to be a prosperous middle power on par with Canada and Australia.
They'd have to get rid of a lot of non government corruption as well. As it is most of the heavy lifting is forcefully managed by both a Worker's union and a Trucker's union that keep a stranglehold on industrial production and it's neighbouring logistics. And even if these weren't around, the main agrarian cabal can singlehandedly freeze the only reliable income the country gets on a monthly basis. Point being, anyone who wants to attain and retain power with any level of governability is forced, by virtue of the balance of power within the country, to get and stay in bed with a number of bad actors that don't have the country's future prosperity in mind. There are alternatives to all of this. Argentina has an enormous potential as a provider of digitally exported services as goods, and the few sustainable industries that have sprouted outside the more traditional markets all come from this sector.
Good video. One point tough, while it is true the agricultural elite dragged down industrialization, that part is incomplete. The big ranching estancias were for cattle raising while most of the agricultural lands were colonized by the mass immigration waves by the late XIX century with the state giving land or selling it for cents to families and communities with the condition to settle. Most of the current center population is descendant of that. In my province there was nothing, being the 2/3rd rich one currently. Santa Fe was just 2 cities and a few travel posts, rets just millions of hectares of wild grasslands. The first agricultural colony was Colonia Esperanza settled by swiss farmers being the first to produce large scale wheat. Before that Argentina did not have agriculture, it was just millions of cows and horses free roaming ranched by gauchos. My town was one built in 4 years by a Italian who bought land ,brought 150 families settled and people started farming in small plots meanwhile the founder donated lands for the railroad line and station. This history is repeated all over the pampean plain. Also by the end of the 19th century those immigrants started to create local industries, mainly for agriculture with Industrias Schneider being the first foundry in the 1870s making tilling machines and other things in my province. Like that it was around. Rapid industrialization happened where it were demand by private initiative and then heavy industries and military production with state programs and private contractors. WWI and the crack of the 29 hit hard on technology acquisition and profits. Then came political instability and state intervention with nationalization waves that broke havoc and destroyed all the progress there could be. Extra note is that the north of the county with higher temps now produce a lot of crops too, in lands taken to natural forests which isn't that good in the long run.
@@Yutub20 mirá las multinacionales son empresas y juegan con la la reglas que los políticos le ponen. Vos SOS una empresa, traés guita para ganar mas guita. Está perfecto, el problema es la cometa abajo de la mesa. Estamos hablando de empresas que traen plata que no hay y después le dicen no podés llevárte las ganancias, es un robo. Podemos concordar que habría que mejorar las leyes, pero son a propósito hechas por los políticos para currar. Fíjate que los peronistas les subsisdian el transporte y sueldos a las mineras y no les cobran impuestos... Arreglado por klistina. Tranquilamente les decís exporten material procesado o industrializado y no les cobró impuestos por X tiempo, exportan en crudo, 35 de arancel.
You have to understand Agentvs, you society is not egalitarian enough. When "Globalization" hit German and South Korea rise but you country needs structural reform and it need use it water ways to for trade, then you will be unstoppable.
@@Argentvs 2015 empiezan a fugar la guita xq ven el futuro incierto y quieren asegurarsela=Super restricciones a la compra de dolar =2018 =2020 =2022 Trabajo en el Estado y me da rabia ver como no puedo defender kas instituciones públicas como tal, muchas tienen su "Autonomía" que en la práctica no se aplica en absoluto...
@@gotija eso de fuga no existe. Cada uno hace con si guita lo que quiere. Si vos vas y llevás plata a Uruguay y la querés sacar mientras el gobierno te dice que esa guita ahora es de ellos no te gustaría mucho. Basta de ésta pavada, por eso estamos como estamos. La plata va a dónde cada propietario quiere, nadie es nadie para decirle a nadie que hacer con lo suyo. Todos son pijas con el culo ajeno.
@Comrade Gaming When did I say Marxist or communist? I said socialist. Socialism has many forms. Be at the right side of Lenin isn't to be a capitalist.
Argentina is very rich in sources and economical potential country, sadly due to the political and moral mistakes of their policy and leaders in past made economy of Argentina inefficient and cause serious difficulties, at my opinion. Greetings from Spain!
Thanks for the possitive view at the end, argentinians are hopeful people but we are also divided against ourselves into 2 types of political parties that haven´t done any good for our people. One of them likes to perpetuate poverty and the other one wants to forget about the poor. The middle class is always in the verge of going down and the rich as in every country stay rich. So we are like a mobious tape going to the beginning when we think we are progressing. Anyway, somebody said in darkness any light is a strong light so we´ll see how things go in the next presidency.
Argentina is a beautiful country. I met many good people during my stay. I explored Buenos Aires without any concern for my safety (unlike my visits to California and New York). I consider Buenos Aires to be a European city with indigenous flair. It would be wonderful if Argentinians could chart a course for market-driven prosperity without the burden of indebtedness.
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
@@javiermartinmehdi1914 Buéno, este gobierno de izquierda y progresista nos endeudo mas que el de derecha de Macri. Y el endeudamiento no se produce solo con el FMI o el Banco Mundial, queridos kirchneristas.
@@paulfri1569 Singapore is obviously a rich country, due to its geographical position (a world trade port) a economic position that hasn't been made by their own population but by being a British colony in the past.
I wonder how large an impact the creation of the Panama Canal had on Argentina. Sailing around South America was the only way to get to the western United States from many different places (Basically everything west of India). Sailing around South America inevitably took you along the Argentine Coast.
Im sure it hit them hard, but the actual country which was devastated by this was Chile, since it's them the ones who own the Magellan Straight and control Drake's Passage, the moment that Canal was opened it was like dropping a nuke on Austral Chile's cities and every major port city at the time all across the country which also made everyone struggle in the port logistics sector and beyond, this may be one of the various reasons of why South America is so economically close to Eastern Asia for a long time now, China specifically
I remember in high school writing an essay saying that Argentina was poor because it lacked industries and services compared to developed nations, and the professor gave me a 7 saying I was mostly wrong... Years later I realized she was somewhat right. Because in reality, it was the people's mindset that made the country poor, especially when it embraces bad ideas such as communism. I mean, look at the difference between North and South Korea; it's like night and day. And now living here in the US, I see more and more Americans slowly destroying the nation turning it into another Argentina... while politicians love it because they dream of becoming powerful with complacent voters just like in Latin America.
@@asdf3568 Nope. Sweden is not a Communist country. It is that simple. Look at Cuba, Venezuela that embraced "real" Communism. China embraced a soft approach and grew but now with the CCP and the hard ruling everything is falling apart.
I've just saw your video and i can say as an Argentinian, the problems are that politicians like to print money when instead of adjusting the treasury of the state, that's one, we have like 13 types of dollars here, and you tell me "what do you mean you have 13 types if it only exists one" well, the thing is that we have different dollars because it has different uses (and they have different values of course), as an example you have Dollar Qatar which was used for when Argentina was playing the soccer world cup (Argentinians were travelling to Qatar and they paid with dollars), and then you have more for varied uses, and second we have a lot of taxes that if you see how much they collect in reality it obstructs the economy. It has a lot of reasons but these are the main ones i think. I believe in Milei 2023, and we're going to make a long-term plan to make the country rise again.
In a parallel universe with either the same quantum state but different location in the multiverse, or the same location as us but a different quantum state, it's not "shoulda coulda woulda but didn't" but rather "something that did happen, just not in our universe".
The video points out the evidence that things aren't so good in Argentina and that this has been a long time in coming. However, while it points out that the initial strong start of the country had significant weaknesses, it refrains from pointing out why they failed as history moved forward, instead remarking how global and US downturns affected them and that printing money to cover debts was necessary (was it? did it ever solve anything?). That last part is the real problem. For some reason creditors never value what comes out of a printer. They want the value agreed upon. As soon as that fundamental principle is realized, then priorities for resources can be made. Otherwise, the government will think they have needs that are really wants. When an individual does this they become poor. When a government does this a nation becomes poor. That is why Argentina has failed. That is what the video doesn't point out.
As an Indian, I don't understand why everyone wants to be a superpower. Like for what do you need so much power? Now that our economy is becoming highly independent and very strong everyone's all like "oh what happens when India's a superpower" and we're just like.. "huh? Well.. nothing. We're chillen bro." It's like,.. just, because people can't bully us anymore, ...doesn't mean we're going to bully others. I remember reading how the American's minds were blown when we twice turned down a seat at the UN security council. Like: "oh Sh*t a culture of people that don't value power in and of itself?! Well, damn we don't know what to do with them." And we're just like.. "you don't really have to do anything,.."
Being a superpower does not mean having to intervene in other countries' affairs, it simply means you are recognized as one of the world's greatest nations at something (agriculture, tech, military, industry, et cetera)
Shut up rejected a UN security council seat was the worst mistake India did. We are still suffering because of the pacifist “you can beat me but i will do nothing “ idealogy of Nehru till this day
I worked 4 months just to buy a crappy refrigerator, you REALLY dont want to live there, people would kill you to steal your shoes, is not a joke, that place is literally hell
I am from argentina and sudy geography. I relly like the video. My opinion is that we have never a chance of be a superpower. We dont have the Technology in the 1880-1914 period and if true that our fisical geography is very rich we dont forget that lack of iron and coal doom the industry plus we are relly far away of europe, this cause the price of transport skyrocket. Sorry my bad english.
We did could. The 1940s ruined it. Argentina had a rapid industrialization driven by private initiative with many heavy industries and military projects involving private business. It was the constant state intervention that stopped economic growth.
Did you know Argentina is one of the global leaders of Nuclear technology and bio technology and that it was the first country in the world to develop the artificial heart including fingerprint technology the first ball point pen Including the bus for transport ,Holophonics the first cartoon animations . You see your the young generation and you have forgotten about Argentina glorious past because of the economic hardships the country is going through and Peronism and corrupt Kirchnerism with that corrupt pathetic witch Cristina Kirchner is to blame for what is happening in Argentina today they want to control the pueblo and keep them struggling for their own power they dont care about the people of Argentina they don't care about you! Argentina is a rich country converted to a poor country due to this pathetic corrupt Kirchnerist party! The libertarians with Javier Milei are the only ones that are capable of bringing Argentina back to its former glory! Vote for Milei in next years elections! VAMOS LIBERTARIOS VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
Im a australian who moved to Argentina over 20 years ago and can say that this is the country with the most potential of the planet but has never reached that potential . The scenery here imho is the wolds most diverse and most striking from the Iguazu Falls . Salta Jujuy Mendoza the cordillera of Patagonia El Calafate and its wondrous cities of Buenos Aires , Rosario , Mendoza, and more . Argentinans have been so badly treated by successive governments who have destroyed all their hopes with hyperinflation and devaluations . I feel in my heart there will be a huge change as we have all the possibilities to be the most developed and prosperous country of the planet . I am positive
It was not because the way the spanish empire took It, they in fact work with Many tribes, letting even their already nobles keep their titles in the spanish Crown, its true that existes an uper class that controled most of the lands, but just like in any other country, but when England promote the independence of the spanish colonys, he used the burguesy that ruled in the colonys to stand against the spanish empire being supported by England, and so whith their independence the burguesy got even more power and the made the rules so they cool keep It, because remember, Spain created one of the first Human rights constitution in the world, i think its called "The laws of Burgos" in whichi they declared the so called indians as citicens of their empire havimg the same rights as spanish citicens, and yes there were slaves as well, but yeah the point is that burguesy was able to stay on power because of the way that England promoted this independence and since then, England and the US have made sure that all the spanish speaking countries, stay week so they are not a threat for the anglo-saxon sphire of influence
As an argentine, the problem was not the agricultural exportation based economy. Look at australia, best and richest country in the world and they just export high value/technology services and an agricultural and mining based economy. The real problem are the cultural differences and the level of economic freedom. While Australia is one of the most free economies of the world Argentina is nearly comunist That in combination with high inequality, systematic extreme corruption and low levels of educations destroy a society.
Imagine a world where south america wasn't developed to be extraction colonies allowing them to develop good institutions so they could eventually become the great nations the deserve to be One day, argentinian brothers, one day we shall be great, hopefully together, signed: Brazilian man
Another factor was that immigration was a major economic growth factor in Argentina’s history. Germans as well as Southern Europeans (primarily Italians) but also Spaniards/Portuguese stopped migrating in significant numbers to Argentina as birth rates began to fall in those countries.
As an argentinean, it pains me to say it wont, the argentinean government is an actual mafia, we keep causing inflation and endebting ourselves, and we still vite for these right-wing politicians because we compare ourselves to higher standards. Which just isnt true. Argentina wont be a power unless we wake up.
Chile is certainly more economically prosperous at the moment, but they suffer from internal instability all the same. After long decades of rebuilding under a mostly right wing regime post-dictatorship they elected a communist, which has not been good for public trust in the government
@@belthesheep3550 He's not communist tho, he's just left wing, and the right has become extremly popular after this unstable government, so in the next elections things will return to normal
Another good reason is just how Argentina's former President and current VP (CFK) became a multi millionaire (estimated 120 million USD) while as a career politician (most during her tenure as President) as many of her people starved.
Could? It took the USA 122 years after it's independence to become a minor super power and then another 15 years to become a Super Power. So could've should be WILL BE a superpower.
I feel like you missed possible the largest reason, the Roca-Runciman Treaty. Argentina signed a big trade with the Brits that gave them a monopoly on selling Argentina coal, preferred trade status, and pretty much gave the British control of their largest export Beef. Then it was renewed as the Eden-Malbrán Treaty of 1936, which gave EVEN MORE concessions to the Brits. Let this be a lesson, when you have a corrupt government, it gets taken advantage of, because the Argentine leaders didn't care because these deals made them filthy rich.
To me, Argentina is like Venezuela. They started nationalizing different things in the country and became more socialist. They saw growth at first, then as corruption and greed crept in, the leaky faucet kept losing more and more water thus pulling down the people.
Like most countries in South America, the geography isn't what killed it. The people living there did. The USA elites worked for the prevailing of the USA as a country, all through out it's history. And they fought for stability. The South American elites only acted as a substitute for the previous colonial powers. Meaning they had no interest in growing the economy, as it would compete with their established power. They had no interest in funding culture, as they consumed European culture anyways. And they had no interest in long term plans, because they already had full control over politics. Over time Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil, Colombia, Equator etc all failed to meet the basics needs for a working country, and political and economical turmoils ravished their lands to the point the society trusts nothing but themselves, and yet are enslaved to the political elites that live there. Chile was the only country that dodged this bullet(so far), because of it's small size and tough geographical conditions. It was, until 2019 basically, in a route to become a developed nation. Now, again due to political instability, we will see if that holds true or not.
i mean, in a way it is because of the elites, but there are other factors around the constants crisis in argentina, for example the interventions in the economy and in the political systems mainly funded and organized by the USA (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor) if you start to investigate deep most of the sources will link much of the crisis from south america to the US government. here in argentina there are multiples essays and papers that talk about the consequences in the economy and the political system due to interventions in it.
@@fed8296 The elites of the country are the ones who control most of the economical and political power. If they were influenced by the USA in any sort of way, it's their own moral choice. Again, the USA elites, despite consuming european culture early on, followed their own road to development. Buenos Aires was once called the "Paris of the south" and that goes to show that the Argentinian elites never really cared to produce a straight Argentinian culture, they only cared about copying european styles.
Argentina could have been a Superpower? What about Turkey and Austria that were actually superpowers and no longer are? When it comes to the economy of countries, the territory of speculation is full of pipe dreams. If Argentina was to be a superpower, it would have been a superpower. A superpower requires elites with a project of a country, and a CLEAR vision of the future. Something Argentina never really had.
Argentina WAS a superpower: It was the #1 country in the 1910s but then they went into isolationism after WWI and they fell behind the rest of the world
Interesting but you Forget To mention that Argentina had no coal To power the industrialisation and more importantly was very dependent on the british market prior To WWII.
Add the incompetence of local politicians to the fact that first the British Empire and later the US of A would never allow Argentina to develop its full potential nor act independently.
NOT SO SURE OF THAT ARGENTINA DEFEATED TWO MAJOR SUPERPOWERS BRITTAN IN 1806 AND 1807 AND SPAIN 1810 TO 1806 THEY HAVE EVERY RESOURCE UNDER THE SUN TO BE A SUPERPOWER EXCEPT THAT THEY HAVE AN INEPT INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENT! VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
If you want a more in-depth and honestly better explanation on the “decline” of Argentina this guy made really good video. - ua-cam.com/video/EeCu8pMHma0/v-deo.html
I have a question for you. first of. great work. i really enjoyed the video.
Is there a chance you will do more of these vids about how geography could have made a country a super or great power?
I would love for these kinds of vids to be about lesser done countries than the big ones ( russa,China,Brazil, South Africa) like the countries with huge potential like India ( or the subcontinent) Indonesia, DR Congo, Tanzania, Sudan before the south split. Ethiopia if it had a coastline, or Central African republic.
Keep up the great work!
@@RK-cj4oc thank you! Unfortunately probably not though. At least for the time being. Geopolitics can get well…political and it takes away some of my enjoyment. Mistakes hold more weight on these as well, which is inevitable. It can come across as biased when that wasn’t the intention.
Hello. Can you south africa be a superpower?
Absolutely !!! Argentina 🇦🇷should be the Super power .
Thanks for the link! It was good...
"there are four kinds of countries: developed countries, underdeveloped countries, Japan - nobody knows why it grows - and Argentina - nobody knows why it doesn't"
Simon Kuznets
Japan and Argentina are the world's economic development wild cards. Japan could easily have modernized only at China's pace, and Argentina could have fulfilled its economic superpower potential as this video indicates.
@@yodorob Actually, Japan had been industrializing since the Meiji restoration in 1868. By World War II it was already industrialized. This set the foundation for its fast modernization afterward.
@@valerievankerckhove9325 I should be saying that Japan could easily have Westernized or industrialized between 1868 and 1945 only at China's pace.
@@yodorob "westernized" means cultural. That, they will never fully do. "Modernized" you mean.
@@ETS186 I accept that. When saying "Westernizing", I meant as in copying Western institutions such as legal systems, not changing the culture per se.
Many Koreans enjoy Tango and admire Argentinean culture. We wish Argentina endless prosperity. From Korea with Love❤❤❤
thank you brother
Thanks a lot. Korea is an amazing country. It's amazing to know many people admire our country despite our economic struggles.
thank u bro. im from argentina and i want travel to korea someday :(
Wow that's really nice actually thank you for it. If may i ask why? What make some koreans to be so lovely to us argentinians? We like Korea also but i can't say it would be a whole nation Phenomena, more like a general feeling of good intent towards asían and koreans
We Argentinians despise Asians. Stay away.
I went to Patagonia in 2018 and was blown away. By far my favorite place on Earth. Buenos Aires is also, undoubtedly an amazing city. Spent 4 days there and could not get enough. Highly recommend. Great video as always!
Can you go into more details about what you liked about Patagonia?
It’s on my list! I appreciate it!
I spent a few months living in BsAs and it's really interesting. Visited Las Pampas region as well but haven't made it to Patagonia yet.
I'm an Argentinian that live in the Patagonia and I'm so glad that my region is very liked by the foreign :D
You ll always welcome on Argentina 😁
I met some Argentinians in Olympic National Park a couple days ago and they were super cool and friendly people - I’ll be rooting for Argentina in this World Cup!
Nice I met some people from Chile there, I was hiking mount Storm King.
@@blumucus I was at Crescent Lake!
They won
Only thing good at is their football ! Best in football!
@@tommyguntommy9816
CHILE ARGENTINA HOCKEY HIELO
CHILE ARGENTINA AURORA AUSTRAL
The few times I've been to Argentina I had the time of my life. What a beautiful country and people. It amazed me how big it is and all that it has to offer. But what stood out the most in my opinion was and will always be its people. They are such funny and friendly folks, believe me. Most of the times you engage a conversation with an argentinian you will probably end up laughing your a** out 😂. This also demonstrates how resilient they are as people. Despite all the ups and downs in the economy, socially and in politics I think every other country facing what they face on a daily basis would result in massive suicides or violent turmoils, but they laugh and joke their way out of it. They wake up every morning to go to work and add their two cents in the quest of making Argentina great again. Even if they often say they are doomed or not worth being a superpower, or even arrogant, their way of living life is unique and I think we all should learn from them. Man, I love Argentina ❤ Greetings from Argentina
Cualquiera se esperaba el final jaja muy halagador era
Why is it that I hear the exact same thing for every country 🤨
@@Ana61234
LA ARGENTINA NEVADA
LA ARGENTINA EUROPEA
@@evaklum8974 cuál es el sentido de copiar y pegar esto en todos los videos?
An additional cause to argentinas failure i would add, is the constant changes in political and economical planification. Each time a new goverment arrives, it makes sure everything that was made by the previous one gets torn apart and start growing in a different direction. There are no long term plans in argentina, and while that persists, argentina wont see any major grow in any aspect.
Greetings from Argentina, love your content
you described the same about spain, no long-term projects
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VOTE LOS LIBERTARIOS WITH JAVIER MILEI!
THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR A NEW PROSPEROUS ARGENTINA!
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The issue is that most of the population is on welfare. A welfare state cannot ever become wealthy.
Socialism no longer works when you run out of other people’s money.
@@J7Handle This is the same issue we see in the US, Canada, Europe, and elsewhere when governments spend without the intention of ever paying off their debt.
Argentina could have been a developed country long ago, and in fact, as the video showed it was in the rigth trace many years ago. I am chilean, and my first international travel was to visit my family (uncles and cousins) with my parents when I was 15, in 1978. To me, Argentina looked like the future. These were difficult times, and harsh time due to dictatorships on both countries. Neverrheless, after we got back to democracy, Chile, with less natural resources, has surpassed our neighbourgs. I hope they return to the right trace, for such a great country and people.
Es dificil para el resto del mundo entender lo que fueron las dictaduras en Latinoamérica, y que todavía seguimos en proceso de Descolonización(que de paso, esto llevó a muchos nacionalismos extremos que empeoraron la situación)
Me alegro que te haya gustado Argentina hermano, siempre serán bienvenidos 😁
Latinoamérica unida, al igual que África, son los únicos actores que pueden cambiar el futuro horrible del que nos vienen advirtiendo todos los días xD
Te manso un abrazo che 😁
It was a developed country. Then it undeveloped.
Pinochet also liberalized Chile's economy because he listened to Milton Friedman's students. If Argentina had the same level of economic freedom as Chile they would have the same GDP per capita as Canada or the US.
Praying for the Southern Cone 🙏
Dictatorships installed by the Yankees because they can't stand competition and know they will lose therefore need to coup your country. Oh that. Lol
Australia and Argentina were almost the same level of development in the 19th century. Export focused economies aren't destined for this.
@@radioverycanaldeanimacion9325 what is happening with population become poblation? wkwkwk
The main difference between these two countries where the level of corruption in their sociaty, that's the reason Australia is s great power in all aspects and Argentina is not.
Agrgnrtina and the Ud were basically both similar when it came to gdp per Capita but both countries went completely different path the US went f down a much greater path becoming a superpower Argentina not so much.
@@ΣτέργιοςΚοσμίδης-ψ3τ there is about the same corruption proportionally, it's worse now, but australia wasnt more or less corrupt, australia was the scion of the greatest empire in the planet, that got rich of robbing blind half the world adn just kept being that way with their common wealth, argentina had no such niceties.
@@cseijifja Argentina had exactly the shame niceties, was part of a great empire the Spanish one, the culture is only difrend. The only difference is the way of thinking between these to civilizations. Argentina inherited the spanish and Italian way of thinking, corruption and how to become rich quick and Australia inherited the British way of thinking how to prevail in the long run.
Argentina coulda had class. Coulda been a contender. Coulda been somebody.
but fell flat on its ass.
The “marlon Brando” of nations.
We definitly still can be somebody. Just like a Fénix.
They HAD class. They WERE a contender. They just couldn't make it work.
@@jhgeorg yeah,between 1890 and 1930, Argentina was a superpower
Argentina's geographical location isn't that strategical to the trade route as it's located nearly in the "end of the world", so i guess they need to maximize their potential in agricultural exports and hi-tech sector
But, as briefly mentioned in the video, before the Panama Canal was built, if anybody wanted to go from anywhere in or around the Atlantic, to anywhere in or around the Pacific, only had two choices. Go around Africa, or go around S.America. The latter of which meant you probably had to stop at some point in Argentina to re-stock with supplies. That was definitely a geographical advantage both strategically and economically.
So is Australia and New Zealand
It's not a very relevant issue in the modern world. Transport costs are cheap enough even for remote locations.
@@chendaforest but they are closer to major powers like Japan China Indonesia and India there.
@@riderchallenge4250 The distance between San Fran and Japan is a lot shorter than the distance between Buenos Aires to Japan.
The Argentine problem are Argentine politicians, this problem dates back to Buenos Aires Centralistas all the way back in the 19th century.
There is not only one problem.
Like any other latinamerican country, our main problem are our governorns and politicians.
@@HugsmadeDrugs you seem to forget we have often be (poorly) ruled by military men, rich oligarchs, bankers, judges, and mafia. Some of them directly, some indirectly. They are NOT politicians and popular will never reach or touch them.
@@HugsmadeDrugs Not really. Most South American countries have huge wage gaps between the rich and the poor but Argentina's used to be much smaller has a huge middle class so the income inequality is far smaller. Like the video says Argentinians tend to live better than most South Americans ana they should be better but their politicians professinal kleptocrats.
Hand in hand are the politics of those that put these people in power. This gets to the real reasons Argentina is in the doldrums. Mismanagement and political mental illnesses.
I was just learning about argentina's history when the notification arrived.
Congratulations for the 100.000 subscribers.
I appreciate it!
Thinking of the Argentine decline problem I had always considered that the Panama Canal had to have a very important role by killing the influence of its ports. I don't think I've seen or read more than one or two people who ever brought it up. You'd be the second or third and that depth of thought is probably what makes your content great.
Yeah, there's no reason to sail around South America, so the only way for Argentina to compete is manufacture and export stuff
Ironic, as argentinian, i went to Panamá Canal when i was 10
Correct it’s too far away from the markets. the whole Southern Hemisphere is poor in comparison except aus and NZ.
@@sc1338 I don’t know that that’s relevant tbh though . At the time Aus and NZ industrialised their markets were mostly European and North American. At the time Melbourne was the richest city in the world it nearly tied with Buenos Aires. Then Argentina had hyperinflation and Australia didn’t.
IT's not that it's "declined", it's that the "growth" in the US for the past several decades is based on fraud, deception and money printing. Yes, kinda hard to compete with that. And that goes for everywhere
Isn't there some joke/saying that goes something like this: "There are four types of countries in the world, poor countries with poor geography, rich countries with rich geography, Argentina, and Japan." Meaning that Argentina is poor with rich geography and Japan is the opposite.
I remember back in the 1980's. People who traveled to Argentina had to worry about having to pay a heavy duty on bringing Personal Computers into the country. I can't imagine that policies like that make it easy to develop a good technology industry.
It's much worse than that now with the oligarchy firmly in power, they will hold electronics for 6 months and still charge the VAT! It's impossible to do things there because of the government, thus, huge black market.
@@FreedomLovin We dont produce dollars, we only obtain this comodity selling grains, (that the big producers doesnt bring to the market cause they are waiting for the Peso to devaluate). We import more than 10k million dollars in energy every year + key supplies for the industries day to day , now 5% of the national badget is destined to pay the FMI debt, our Central Bank is running out of Usa currency and you are upset cause you cant buy hardware to mine crypto or play LOL?
Getting its arse kicked by great Britain probably didn't do its international standing much good ether
@@emilianosilva8266 This is bewilderingly facetious. The same general import tax applies to hardware for most industries, including supplies for the few heavy industries that still remain. Argentina could have THE single largest automobile production market, complete with an EV battery branch, if the government wanted to. They need the tax from the materials needed to make that work, though, so instead of developing the most advanced vehicular production market in the world they'll piddle around taxing netbooks 10x times the price so their assembly lines in Tierra del Fuego can keep assembling cheap chinese shit that nobody will buy since it can't measure up to even a midrange brand computer, and is either gonna rot in storage on big box stores until it becomes ewaste or get donated as school supplies in yet another government plan.
Large companies take all their profits abroad and never invest it back in the country. Even leaving currency control out of the equation there's no way we can summon all dollars needed for industrial development. Argentina's agricultural elite is still much in in power and they're not interested a bit in the country's development. They just want their dollars out of the country and would do anything (specially meddling with politics and funding corrupt political parties) to have it their way
to my argenteans brothers I understand the struggle of corruption it runs in a latin america. I wish latin america would overcome this. we could literally become top economies. I hope for a prompt and soon economical recovery. Mexico🤝 Argentina will always be brothers! thanks for giving us great football and amazing music and super friendly ppl!
The political instability, economy mismanagement and constant military juntas should’ve been mentioned, not the only causes of course, but have had a very important role in the economic stagnation of the Country.
The military juntas were good for the economy.
@@lorenzodell289 Have you read Imagining Argentina? I think @donlepardo77 has made a good point.
Political instability repels foreign investment.
@@lorenzodell289 The military juntas are true guiltys for the underdevelopment in South America. Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Uruguay really suffered socially and economically with the dictatorships.
Yeah, I was surprised he didn't even mention the Falklands War.
You can say this about dozens of countries. Corruption takes the life away from any nation that is rich in natural resources.
I spent a couple weeks there in 2010. Wonderful country. Friendly people. Best steak you'll ever eat.
A lot of people don’t understand how much the culture of a nation can make or break its success.
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@@sizzaulwtf?
I, an Argentinian, literally just subscribed yesterday
And now you surprise me with this LOL
I’m happy you found the channel! I have a second video relating to Argentina coming out in the next couple of weeks, maybe sooner.
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS
VAMOS MILEI LETS MAKE ARGENTINA GREAT AGAIN!🦁
@@carlomazzi4345 cringe
Viva Cristina y viva Peron CARAJO ✌️
Its parasites like you that effect the growth of Argentina the only good thing Peronism contributed was the numerous advanced hospitals and schools and work protection for the middle class however they closed the doors to mass global trade and over protectionsit policies that eventually lead to Argentina's decline , and the ex vice President Cristina kirchner is the most corrupt pathetic witch that exists in Argentina I suggest that you dont have children since decent Argentine's dont want to go backwards with corrupt Kirchnerism your a disease that needs to be wiped out 🐀🧹💩!
A new prosperous Argentina will commence with the Libertarians!
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS
VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
@@LordMagnuss
@@LordMagnuss me pregunto cual es tu opinion en este video... Basicamente te dice que el peronismo llevo para atras nuestra economia
If Argentina worked on it's economic policies and stopping reaching on the verge of bankruptcy every few years, many immigrants would want to move there (and skilled people as well) and would bring lots of capital with them and help generate lots of it too.
I always think about this and bang my head against the wall because of it. We were in such a great place in 1930.
Bad news: The same can be said of Haiti and any other underdeveloped country.
La bancarrota del pais se producen "gracias" a los gobiernos de Derecha o "promercados"...q endeudan irresponsable y demencialmente al Pais como fue el caso del iltimo q hubo entre 2015 y 2019 ( Macri) q pidio mas de U$ 100000 millones en 4 años incluido el ptestamo mas grandede la HISTORIA del FMI x U$57000 millones q dejaron al pais en bancarrota y q ahora sinicamente critican deberias saber estas cosas antes de criticar sin conocer...
A 3 second google search would have told you argentina has A LOT of immigration. We're a country made of immigrants, the reason we're on the verge of bankruptcy every few years is bc the USA can't stop getting their dirty fingers involved in places nobody wants them and ruining economies to stay at the top and continue to steal our resources.
Vienen muchos inmigrantes pero a gastar sus dólares, Argentina está regalada para ellos.
location is also a huge factor. trade with Asia has to go through either the Drake Passage which has some of the worst seas on earth, or the strait of magellan which is notoriously difficult to navigate. its also in a pretty isolated part of the world without many regionally strong economies to trade with
Why is it difficult to navigate? I did look at the map
@@dant5447 waters are ridiculously dangerous and unforgiving most of the year, navigating them is a death wish even with today's tehcnology, but yeah you can still make it if you try, it's just not worth it
In that sense Australia is extremely lucky because Asia is on its doorstep
@@olekatoska1901 Man. Not to mention you can get prevailing winds that can go around the world without nothing stopping it.
No it isn't a huge factor. Argentina can use Chile for West coast transport and they could use the Panama Canal. The problem with Argentina is that it was always centrally managed economy that focused on agriculture and never diversified. Argentinians are "tomorrow we work people" and expect government services to fill their needs. For example, instead of investing in more oil production and refining to lower prices, the government subsidizes gas prices. It is a lazy country with no belief in work ethic. They always pursued the policies for autarky, therefore hostile to foreigner investment. Even today, being part of Mercosur, the flimsy economic agreement does not want foreigners to come in. Despite being supposedly literate, they are illiterate in many other subjects.
The whole southern cone should’ve been a regional superpower alongside Brazil as well. As well as Mexico. Maybe Mexico would have it better if a North American union were to happen. But that wouldn’t happen. Like an all Mexico movement could’ve made Mexico more North American than just a nationality.
Probably not either. Brazil wouldn't tolerate a great power right under its belly.
@@leonardoleo5740 tolerate what?
As an American, I don't see Mexico as a friend. They almost stabbed us in the back during WWII and Mexico is stuck being a Socialist nation with all kinds of resources but the Socialist governments are paranoid that someone would want to take over that mess there. It is a shame Argentina has not ever matured into a great nation but the entire population is one big basket case.
Regional superpower is an oxymoron. Superpower is by its nature a global thing. If you are regional you are not a superpower.
What's next, a household superpower?
@@Poctyk It's a thing, but they normally reserve it to the actual international superpower with they talk about it. Like they'll say China's the regional superpower because it's a super power in the world & that region but not really because it has challengers on the same level in its region
With Monroe doctrine it's hard to have a second superpower that can challenge the first. They won't let it happen.
Partially truth. One cannot blame it all on USA domination.
Dumb. The U.S. has absolutely nothing to do with Argentina’s decline. You heard it in this video. Perón, nationalized industries, corruption, social programs, printing money, hyper-inflation, protectionism. That’s all on Argentina. The U.S. had nothing to do with it unless you think the U.S. got Perón elected in the first place, somehow.
@@J7Handle unless you blame it all on Perón, which is utterly idiocy too.
Exactly! Always blame someone else for your problems. It makes you feel better.
Most things the video mentioned happened to most countries of the world, but consider Uruguay. Similar history, but different results. With fewer resources, Uruguay has nearly double the per capita GDP. Chile is another example of a country that doing pretty well, though they admittedly have better resources than Uruguay. If I'm not mistaken, they were also subject to the Monroe Doctrine, so I'm really confused by that statement.
The idea that you have to challenge the US is for power just false. It's not a zero sum game; just run your country responsibly and develop your own economy. The mythical "they" have nothing against other powers in their region (Canada, for example). In fact, I'm sure the US feels that it would be useful to have more stable trading partners in the region. But a culture of corruption, irresponsible spending, and dependency on the government (or any other group) always, always leads to downfall. Honestly, Mexico and Brazil should also be powers, but they have all had similar issues.
@@onehorsetoomany8006don't you see any pattern there? Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia... all four are the largest, richest, potentially challengers to USA continental domination. So PART of the argument is true: USA meddles too much to hamper all them. But still that's NOT the only obstacle. Cuba kicked USA out and it took them long time to starting to level up their economy. And even if they can blame it on the sanctions, nobody fools himself the sanctions are not the only reason that held them back.
as an european i see argentina as a country with a lot of potential, it’s just the mentality that’s holding them back
No, it's the government that's holding them back
Which European country are you from?
I think that it's a bit of a stretch to say that Argentina could be a superpower, or even a major power. I would say that Argentina does have the potential, with good government, to be a prosperous middle power on par with Canada and Australia.
Russia's not even a Superpower anymore.
They'd have to get rid of a lot of non government corruption as well. As it is most of the heavy lifting is forcefully managed by both a Worker's union and a Trucker's union that keep a stranglehold on industrial production and it's neighbouring logistics. And even if these weren't around, the main agrarian cabal can singlehandedly freeze the only reliable income the country gets on a monthly basis. Point being, anyone who wants to attain and retain power with any level of governability is forced, by virtue of the balance of power within the country, to get and stay in bed with a number of bad actors that don't have the country's future prosperity in mind.
There are alternatives to all of this. Argentina has an enormous potential as a provider of digitally exported services as goods, and the few sustainable industries that have sprouted outside the more traditional markets all come from this sector.
A good topic for video !
They have v smart flag called "Albi Celeste" !
Canada and Australia are falling down
Congratulations on 100K
I appreciate it!
Good video. One point tough, while it is true the agricultural elite dragged down industrialization, that part is incomplete.
The big ranching estancias were for cattle raising while most of the agricultural lands were colonized by the mass immigration waves by the late XIX century with the state giving land or selling it for cents to families and communities with the condition to settle. Most of the current center population is descendant of that. In my province there was nothing, being the 2/3rd rich one currently. Santa Fe was just 2 cities and a few travel posts, rets just millions of hectares of wild grasslands. The first agricultural colony was Colonia Esperanza settled by swiss farmers being the first to produce large scale wheat.
Before that Argentina did not have agriculture, it was just millions of cows and horses free roaming ranched by gauchos.
My town was one built in 4 years by a Italian who bought land ,brought 150 families settled and people started farming in small plots meanwhile the founder donated lands for the railroad line and station. This history is repeated all over the pampean plain.
Also by the end of the 19th century those immigrants started to create local industries, mainly for agriculture with Industrias Schneider being the first foundry in the 1870s making tilling machines and other things in my province. Like that it was around. Rapid industrialization happened where it were demand by private initiative and then heavy industries and military production with state programs and private contractors. WWI and the crack of the 29 hit hard on technology acquisition and profits. Then came political instability and state intervention with nationalization waves that broke havoc and destroyed all the progress there could be.
Extra note is that the north of the county with higher temps now produce a lot of crops too, in lands taken to natural forests which isn't that good in the long run.
My ancestors are from colonia esperanza :)
@@Yutub20 mirá las multinacionales son empresas y juegan con la la reglas que los políticos le ponen. Vos SOS una empresa, traés guita para ganar mas guita. Está perfecto, el problema es la cometa abajo de la mesa. Estamos hablando de empresas que traen plata que no hay y después le dicen no podés llevárte las ganancias, es un robo. Podemos concordar que habría que mejorar las leyes, pero son a propósito hechas por los políticos para currar. Fíjate que los peronistas les subsisdian el transporte y sueldos a las mineras y no les cobran impuestos... Arreglado por klistina.
Tranquilamente les decís exporten material procesado o industrializado y no les cobró impuestos por X tiempo, exportan en crudo, 35 de arancel.
You have to understand Agentvs, you society is not egalitarian enough. When "Globalization" hit German and South Korea rise but you country needs structural reform and it need use it water ways to for trade, then you will be unstoppable.
@@Argentvs 2015 empiezan a fugar la guita xq ven el futuro incierto y quieren asegurarsela=Super restricciones a la compra de dolar
=2018
=2020
=2022
Trabajo en el Estado y me da rabia ver como no puedo defender kas instituciones públicas como tal, muchas tienen su "Autonomía" que en la práctica no se aplica en absoluto...
@@gotija eso de fuga no existe. Cada uno hace con si guita lo que quiere. Si vos vas y llevás plata a Uruguay y la querés sacar mientras el gobierno te dice que esa guita ahora es de ellos no te gustaría mucho.
Basta de ésta pavada, por eso estamos como estamos. La plata va a dónde cada propietario quiere, nadie es nadie para decirle a nadie que hacer con lo suyo. Todos son pijas con el culo ajeno.
In trying to be like Europe they ended up as Eastern Europe.
eastern europe is far superior to western europe, the west is a failed society.
I know several people who backpacked through Argentina. So much to see, such diversity. Goals
Love from America to argentina. We hope you prosper indefinitely ❤❤❤❤
I love the fact that this is the only channel in youtube that i enjoy watching the smoothest transition to a sponsor ever! haha 🥰
It’s the reason I left a dislike
The word "socialism" is surprisingly absent from this video's script.
@Comrade Gaming Since 1946...always
@Comrade Gaming When did I say Marxist or communist? I said socialist. Socialism has many forms. Be at the right side of Lenin isn't to be a capitalist.
@Comrade Gaming Fascism is socialist. National socialism. Perón himself says it, it's not an invention or occurrence of mine.
Argentina is very rich in sources and economical potential country, sadly due to the political and moral mistakes of their policy and leaders in past made economy of Argentina inefficient and cause serious difficulties, at my opinion. Greetings from Spain!
The bottom line of Argentina’s decline is the Peronism movement and its overwhelming policies that continue to these days to stop Argentina’s growth
I absolutely loved Argentina and have thought about moving there.
Nice video! Also super happy you’re using metric 🙏
With this type of reasoning a lot of countries could have been superpowers: Brazil, Iran, Pakistan, India etc
Yes this idea geography is destiny is total bs
The vast amounts of corruption is by far Argentinas biggest downfall
"That ship has probably sailed"
You said it, buddy. As an Argentinian, I feel sad, but it's the truth...
Thanks for the possitive view at the end, argentinians are hopeful people but we are also divided against ourselves into 2 types of political parties that haven´t done any good for our people. One of them likes to perpetuate poverty and the other one wants to forget about the poor. The middle class is always in the verge of going down and the rich as in every country stay rich. So we are like a mobious tape going to the beginning when we think we are progressing. Anyway, somebody said in darkness any light is a strong light so we´ll see how things go in the next presidency.
Argentina is a beautiful country. I met many good people during my stay. I explored Buenos Aires without any concern for my safety (unlike my visits to California and New York). I consider Buenos Aires to be a European city with indigenous flair.
It would be wonderful if Argentinians could chart a course for market-driven prosperity without the burden of indebtedness.
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
@@javiermartinmehdi1914 Buéno, este gobierno de izquierda y progresista nos endeudo mas que el de derecha de Macri. Y el endeudamiento no se produce solo con el FMI o el Banco Mundial, queridos kirchneristas.
No offense. Had Brazil been settled by the English you'd have a New Australia or New Canada without the corruption and cronyism..
Any rich country with hot climate?
@@lanceseeley3929 Australia and Singapore?
@@paulfri1569 australia's population is mainly(almost entirely) in the southeast of the nation, where there's a temperate climate.
@@lanceseeley3929 Singapore?
@@paulfri1569 Singapore is obviously a rich country, due to its geographical position (a world trade port) a economic position that hasn't been made by their own population but by being a British colony in the past.
I want to see Argentina get better! Quiero ver Argentina mejora!
Buenas Minas, baratas
I wonder how large an impact the creation of the Panama Canal had on Argentina. Sailing around South America was the only way to get to the western United States from many different places (Basically everything west of India). Sailing around South America inevitably took you along the Argentine Coast.
That’s a good point
Im sure it hit them hard, but the actual country which was devastated by this was Chile, since it's them the ones who own the Magellan Straight and control Drake's Passage, the moment that Canal was opened it was like dropping a nuke on Austral Chile's cities and every major port city at the time all across the country which also made everyone struggle in the port logistics sector and beyond, this may be one of the various reasons of why South America is so economically close to Eastern Asia for a long time now, China specifically
2:20 "Many of the solutions (to inflation) rely on government action"
Government action is what gave us all inflation.
I remember in high school writing an essay saying that Argentina was poor because it lacked industries and services compared to developed nations, and the professor gave me a 7 saying I was mostly wrong... Years later I realized she was somewhat right. Because in reality, it was the people's mindset that made the country poor, especially when it embraces bad ideas such as communism. I mean, look at the difference between North and South Korea; it's like night and day.
And now living here in the US, I see more and more Americans slowly destroying the nation turning it into another Argentina... while politicians love it because they dream of becoming powerful with complacent voters just like in Latin America.
Look at countries like China and Sweden. It's not that simple
@@asdf3568 Nope. Sweden is not a Communist country. It is that simple. Look at Cuba, Venezuela that embraced "real" Communism. China embraced a soft approach and grew but now with the CCP and the hard ruling everything is falling apart.
@@claudioklaus2642 And neither is Argentina. My point is, that left policies are not necessarily wrong. But in Argentina they clearly were
@@asdf3568 He never said "the left".
@@larmondoflairallen4705 He didn't have to. It's in the context.
I think Argentina is a great place to visit , i will travel to Argentina soon for vacation hopefully this year
I've just saw your video and i can say as an Argentinian, the problems are that politicians like to print money when instead of adjusting the treasury of the state, that's one, we have like 13 types of dollars here, and you tell me "what do you mean you have 13 types if it only exists one" well, the thing is that we have different dollars because it has different uses (and they have different values of course), as an example you have Dollar Qatar which was used for when Argentina was playing the soccer world cup (Argentinians were travelling to Qatar and they paid with dollars), and then you have more for varied uses, and second we have a lot of taxes that if you see how much they collect in reality it obstructs the economy.
It has a lot of reasons but these are the main ones i think. I believe in Milei 2023, and we're going to make a long-term plan to make the country rise again.
Shoulda coulda woulda
But didn’t.
It has a lot to do with a Countries leadership.
In a parallel universe with either the same quantum state but different location in the multiverse, or the same location as us but a different quantum state, it's not "shoulda coulda woulda but didn't" but rather "something that did happen, just not in our universe".
The video points out the evidence that things aren't so good in Argentina and that this has been a long time in coming. However, while it points out that the initial strong start of the country had significant weaknesses, it refrains from pointing out why they failed as history moved forward, instead remarking how global and US downturns affected them and that printing money to cover debts was necessary (was it? did it ever solve anything?). That last part is the real problem. For some reason creditors never value what comes out of a printer. They want the value agreed upon. As soon as that fundamental principle is realized, then priorities for resources can be made. Otherwise, the government will think they have needs that are really wants. When an individual does this they become poor. When a government does this a nation becomes poor. That is why Argentina has failed. That is what the video doesn't point out.
Argentina was never close to being a Super Power they are just too isolated
We actually were.
Laughs in freedom
Curious if the American confederate states would have followed a similar pattern if they remained separate from the rest of the union.
A lot of them are relatively worse off. Mostly due to lack of industries. Texas being an exception of course.
the us south is very poor
@@dunkey7739 Relative to the rest of the United States anyway.
the South is basically a third world.
As an Indian, I don't understand why everyone wants to be a superpower. Like for what do you need so much power? Now that our economy is becoming highly independent and very strong everyone's all like "oh what happens when India's a superpower" and we're just like.. "huh? Well.. nothing. We're chillen bro."
It's like,.. just, because people can't bully us anymore, ...doesn't mean we're going to bully others. I remember reading how the American's minds were blown when we twice turned down a seat at the UN security council. Like: "oh Sh*t a culture of people that don't value power in and of itself?! Well, damn we don't know what to do with them."
And we're just like.. "you don't really have to do anything,.."
Being a superpower does not mean having to intervene in other countries' affairs, it simply means you are recognized as one of the world's greatest nations at something (agriculture, tech, military, industry, et cetera)
Shut up rejected a UN security council seat was the worst mistake India did. We are still suffering because of the pacifist “you can beat me but i will do nothing “ idealogy of Nehru till this day
Argentina:I could have been a contender.😔
Still could be. Btw at least is World Cup contender
Im planning my trip to Argentina 🇦🇷 its just a beautiful a Country!
🎵Don’t cry for me Argentina🎵
I'm ready to move there.
DONT
I worked 4 months just to buy a crappy refrigerator, you REALLY dont want to live there, people would kill you to steal your shoes, is not a joke, that place is literally hell
Why? Do you want big Schlong?
Why do you want to move to the third world?
I am from argentina and sudy geography. I relly like the video. My opinion is that we have never a chance of be a superpower. We dont have the Technology in the 1880-1914 period and if true that our fisical geography is very rich we dont forget that lack of iron and coal doom the industry plus we are relly far away of europe, this cause the price of transport skyrocket. Sorry my bad english.
We did could. The 1940s ruined it. Argentina had a rapid industrialization driven by private initiative with many heavy industries and military projects involving private business. It was the constant state intervention that stopped economic growth.
China and Russia didn't have industry as well
@@akhilkt China has not industry ? what are you talking about?
@@gral10 I mean in 1800s and 1914
Did you know Argentina is one of the global leaders of Nuclear technology and bio technology and that it
was the first country in the world to develop the artificial heart including fingerprint technology the first ball point pen Including
the bus for transport ,Holophonics the first cartoon animations . You see your the young generation and you have forgotten
about Argentina glorious past because of the economic hardships the country is going through and Peronism and
corrupt Kirchnerism with that corrupt pathetic witch Cristina Kirchner is to blame for what is happening in Argentina today they want to control the pueblo and keep them
struggling for their own power they dont care about the people of Argentina they don't care about you!
Argentina is a rich country converted to a poor country due to this pathetic corrupt Kirchnerist party!
The libertarians with Javier Milei are the only ones that are capable of bringing Argentina back to its former glory!
Vote for Milei in next years elections!
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS
VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
Im a australian who moved to Argentina over 20 years ago and can say that this is the country with the most potential of the planet but has never reached that potential . The scenery here imho is the wolds most diverse and most striking from the Iguazu Falls . Salta Jujuy Mendoza the cordillera of Patagonia El Calafate and its wondrous cities of Buenos Aires , Rosario , Mendoza, and more . Argentinans have been so badly treated by successive governments who have destroyed all their hopes with hyperinflation and devaluations . I feel in my heart there will be a huge change as we have all the possibilities to be the most developed and prosperous country of the planet . I am positive
¿En qué parte vivís amigo?
Argentinas are the reason Argentina is not a super power , not even a local power
It was not because the way the spanish empire took It, they in fact work with Many tribes, letting even their already nobles keep their titles in the spanish Crown, its true that existes an uper class that controled most of the lands, but just like in any other country, but when England promote the independence of the spanish colonys, he used the burguesy that ruled in the colonys to stand against the spanish empire being supported by England, and so whith their independence the burguesy got even more power and the made the rules so they cool keep It, because remember, Spain created one of the first Human rights constitution in the world, i think its called "The laws of Burgos" in whichi they declared the so called indians as citicens of their empire havimg the same rights as spanish citicens, and yes there were slaves as well, but yeah the point is that burguesy was able to stay on power because of the way that England promoted this independence and since then, England and the US have made sure that all the spanish speaking countries, stay week so they are not a threat for the anglo-saxon sphire of influence
As an argentine, the problem was not the agricultural exportation based economy. Look at australia, best and richest country in the world and they just export high value/technology services and an agricultural and mining based economy.
The real problem are the cultural differences and the level of economic freedom. While Australia is one of the most free economies of the world Argentina is nearly comunist That in combination with high inequality, systematic extreme corruption and low levels of educations destroy a society.
excelentemente dicho Eze
Which is puzzling since Argentina seem to be the most European of the Latin American countries, even the climate is temperate like Europe.
Spanish colonial
Imagine a world where south america wasn't developed to be extraction colonies allowing them to develop good institutions so they could eventually become the great nations the deserve to be
One day, argentinian brothers, one day we shall be great, hopefully together, signed: Brazilian man
Of course it could have! If it was not constantly robbed blind by outside forces.
Another factor was that immigration was a major economic growth factor in Argentina’s history. Germans as well as Southern Europeans (primarily Italians) but also Spaniards/Portuguese stopped migrating in significant numbers to Argentina as birth rates began to fall in those countries.
Here we have a saying: Argentina's problem is argentines.
Hey! Without argentines, football would not be the same.
Argentina was a super power a long time ago...
we reached a power we never deserved!!!!
I haven't watched the video yet, but I bet that it's good.
Yeah, I was right
It is a good watch
I appreciate it!
It still could be in the future if it makes the right moves.
As an argentinean, it pains me to say it wont, the argentinean government is an actual mafia, we keep causing inflation and endebting ourselves, and we still vite for these right-wing politicians because we compare ourselves to higher standards. Which just isnt true. Argentina wont be a power unless we wake up.
The fact Argentina had an incredible potential, yet even his neighbour Chile is arguibly more of a regional power than Argentina today
Chile is certainly more economically prosperous at the moment, but they suffer from internal instability all the same. After long decades of rebuilding under a mostly right wing regime post-dictatorship they elected a communist, which has not been good for public trust in the government
@@belthesheep3550 He's not communist tho, he's just left wing, and the right has become extremly popular after this unstable government, so in the next elections things will return to normal
Another good reason is just how Argentina's former President and current VP (CFK) became a multi millionaire (estimated 120 million USD) while as a career politician (most during her tenure as President) as many of her people starved.
In most cases, the main reason a country fails or doesn't do as well as it should is because of corruption.
Could? It took the USA 122 years after it's independence to become a minor super power and then another 15 years to become a Super Power. So could've should be WILL BE a superpower.
true, USA became a minor superpower after winning Spanish American War in 1898 and a Super Power 15 years later at the start of WW1
The legend says that things will only get back on track when Perón's stolen hands get returned to his dead body
I used to think that the tallest mountain lies in Ecuador, the Mt. Chimborazo.
Not Superpower but a Power at least like Italy
I cry for you, Argentina.
Superpower is a stretch considering their population size
I feel like you missed possible the largest reason, the Roca-Runciman Treaty. Argentina signed a big trade with the Brits that gave them a monopoly on selling Argentina coal, preferred trade status, and pretty much gave the British control of their largest export Beef. Then it was renewed as the Eden-Malbrán Treaty of 1936, which gave EVEN MORE concessions to the Brits. Let this be a lesson, when you have a corrupt government, it gets taken advantage of, because the Argentine leaders didn't care because these deals made them filthy rich.
taxation, regulations, corrupcy and socialism in every single government since 1920 made us a poor country
Argentina is the best football superpower !
To me, Argentina is like Venezuela. They started nationalizing different things in the country and became more socialist. They saw growth at first, then as corruption and greed crept in, the leaky faucet kept losing more and more water thus pulling down the people.
God bless Argentina 🇦🇷💪🏻💪🏻
Argentina started to stagnate around the same time it moved towards socialism, and then dictatorship. What a coincidence.
In other words, when money printer go burrrr, things don't turn out so well.
Man, Argentina can't catch a break.
I’m from Argentina originally. It will never come close to a super power. It’s corrupted from the top down, and pretty much always has been.
Like most countries in South America, the geography isn't what killed it. The people living there did.
The USA elites worked for the prevailing of the USA as a country, all through out it's history. And they fought for stability. The South American elites only acted as a substitute for the previous colonial powers. Meaning they had no interest in growing the economy, as it would compete with their established power. They had no interest in funding culture, as they consumed European culture anyways. And they had no interest in long term plans, because they already had full control over politics. Over time Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil, Colombia, Equator etc all failed to meet the basics needs for a working country, and political and economical turmoils ravished their lands to the point the society trusts nothing but themselves, and yet are enslaved to the political elites that live there. Chile was the only country that dodged this bullet(so far), because of it's small size and tough geographical conditions. It was, until 2019 basically, in a route to become a developed nation. Now, again due to political instability, we will see if that holds true or not.
i mean, in a way it is because of the elites, but there are other factors around the constants crisis in argentina, for example the interventions in the economy and in the political systems mainly funded and organized by the USA (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor) if you start to investigate deep most of the sources will link much of the crisis from south america to the US government. here in argentina there are multiples essays and papers that talk about the consequences in the economy and the political system due to interventions in it.
@@fed8296 The elites of the country are the ones who control most of the economical and political power. If they were influenced by the USA in any sort of way, it's their own moral choice. Again, the USA elites, despite consuming european culture early on, followed their own road to development. Buenos Aires was once called the "Paris of the south" and that goes to show that the Argentinian elites never really cared to produce a straight Argentinian culture, they only cared about copying european styles.
Argentina could have been a Superpower? What about Turkey and Austria that were actually superpowers and no longer are?
When it comes to the economy of countries, the territory of speculation is full of pipe dreams. If Argentina was to be a superpower, it would have been a superpower. A superpower requires elites with a project of a country, and a CLEAR vision of the future. Something Argentina never really had.
Argentina WAS a superpower: It was the #1 country in the 1910s but then they went into isolationism after WWI and they fell behind the rest of the world
The "Argentina superpower" is actually an early Argentinean meme "Argentina potencia".
Interesting but you Forget To mention that Argentina had no coal To power the industrialisation and more importantly was very dependent on the british market prior To WWII.
Ty for using the metric system
Add the incompetence of local politicians to the fact that first the British Empire and later the US of A would never allow Argentina to develop its full potential nor act independently.
So many of these videos throw around the term superpower. Argentina was never going to become a superpower according to the modern definition.
NOT SO SURE OF THAT ARGENTINA DEFEATED TWO MAJOR SUPERPOWERS
BRITTAN IN 1806 AND 1807 AND SPAIN 1810 TO 1806 THEY HAVE EVERY RESOURCE UNDER THE
SUN TO BE A SUPERPOWER EXCEPT THAT THEY HAVE AN INEPT INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENT!
VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
the problem with argentina is that people there love simpsons too much, and make their policitical decisions based on homero way of life