What an absolute unit. I'm currently working on one of our ancient Matsuura 3-axis mills and I just got done with roughing a 1100 lb block down to the point where the largest of our 5-axis machines can actually lift it 😅
Not to forget I believe you have a rotating table somewhere in the shop, I believe instead of flipping that job you can fit a rotating table to your Grinding table and then, yes, rotate it while grinding that will even give you a great surface finish!! Challenge Jessy!
@@MrPRECLIK if the setup isnt perfect, yes, but rotary grinding with a spinning magnetic chuck can give much better results on large workpieces because you stop worrying about twist in a long machine axis, and instead worry about tilt on a much shorter rotary axis, which is relatively easy to adjust for (grind the magnet on the machine, if nothing else). It's one of the reasons double-disc grinding is so effective. Rotary grinding would also have been probably about half the time, even considering the extra setup, because the mag chuck and that now-magnetic material don't need to be meticulously cleaned several times. I do it at work on parts that need to be flat and parallel within .0002 and can be sub-tenth with relative ease, less than .00005 with some extra care taken in setup. We had one job with a stack of discs on a rotating arbor that runout across the whole assembly (28 large discs, with 27 smaller in between as spacers) was .0002 tir. Takes a lot of time to set up, or a lot of practice setting it up quickly, then it's relatively straightforward. Defeating the magnetic distortion from the chuck and stresses from heat treatment was the worst bit.
Good point re fixturing in general.. in my days as a NC PROGRAMMER it was something that planners and cost analysers overlooked especially on castings and similar prismatic components. Trying to explain that design and Toolroom manufacture would be required sometimes boiled my brain. Other than that, great times.
nicely done, Schunk is awesome stuff and i can hardly wait to see that piece of round stock vertically mounted in that Schunk chuck unless you've got a special trick up your sleeve Barry 😉,it will be very interesting to see
It looks like your shop could benefit from some magnetic lifting devices. I personally like the brand Magswitch but there are a lot of manufactures out there for switchable magnetics and they have products that will safely lift several tons.
You can’t those magnets will scratch the shit out of your fixtures from any chips they pick up, lifting bolts is a much better option. I used to use them at my last job they worked great to move ( yes It sounds bad) long shafts into my lathe.
I'm not so sure. We use magnets occasionally but the big problem with magnets is magnetizing fixtures and every fine piece of material is drawn to the fixtures. However, sometimes you just have to do what you gotta do...
Oh god, what a nightmare of a setup if you don't get the table super clean or accidentally drag a chip onto the table when loading the fixture/chuck. I love the challenge but setups like this are why I'm grumpy. My back doesn't like all the leaning into the machine anymore. It will usually take a couple of days for me to recoup. That chuck is beast tho.
Mr trevor We are waiting to see those jaws man Do your best Mr Barry We want to break a new record for the largest chips in the world BOOM 💥 Do your best titans 👏 💪 👌 Every day love this profession more and more ♥
When Schunk designed this Chuck, what was the application intention and what kind of mounting did they envision? That is way way way madly with Barry in the wheels and Jessy staring!
Boa tarde doido Brazil e adoro assistir o conteúdo vocês são ótimos com essas máquinas já trabalhei com cnc trabalhava com uma KITAMURA se não me falha a memória era um modelo HX630I ou HX 6300I fazendo usinagem do bloco do motor Scania
Ciao una curiosità: perché non avete creato un sistema con unità a punto zero per sostituire velocemente il mandrino della shunk ? Intendo quelle con la sicurezza anti-sganciamento così da non rischiare nulla durante la fase di tornitura?
Oof, that is one amazing chuck, I would love to have this at my Current job, how much does one of these cost?😂 so I can convince my supervisors to get us one . Looking forward to seeing the next video. I ask because they don’t offer a price only a quote and if it’s astronomical my boss will say no Lol😂
Hey! I'm wondering if you know how to paint/fill text and symbols that are cnc engraved onto metal such as aluminium? I have previously ordered cnc engraved panels from some various companies, and they always fill the engraved text with paint - either white or some other color. Is this paint, powder coating, what is it - and how do you do it?
Warum verwendet ihr keinen Krahn? Das wäre doch viel einfach als das Bauteil mit den Stapler in die Maschine zu heben. An jede Maschine gehört ein kleiner Krahn mit 250kg bis 3 Tonnen, jeweils an die Maschienengröße angepasst. Falls ihr in USA keinen hersteller habt könnt ihr euch zu Abus wenden, da wird man euch weiterhelfen. Grüße aus Deutschland
You guys seriously need to get yourselves some jib hoists mounted next to the machines and do away with using the forklift to load them. Turn a 2 man job into a 1 man job.
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Ciao, una curiosità: Perché non avete eseguito la lavorazione per inserire 4 unità a punto zero ( quelle con sicurezza anti-sganciamento nella fase di fornitura ) nella piastra d’interfaccia così da avere un cambio rapido del mandrino shunk con qualsiasi altra attrezzatura? ( invece di fissarla con viti filettate, che fa perdere molto più tempo nel togliere il mandrino ? Nella lavorazione della piastra avete fatto una cosa che no va MAI fatta! Cioè mettere il refrigerante interno anche se la punta in m.d. montata nel mandrino non ha i fori, ( oppure la punta ha i fori mentre la pinza ER dov’è montata la punta non è a tenuta stagna e quindi il refrigerante esce dai tagli della pinza ) in questo modo fuoriesce dagli intagli delle pinze ER ed essendo piccola la punta necessita di elevati giri ed il refrigerante che esce genera un effetto “ombrello” cioè va all’estero di dove avviene la lavorazione di foratura! È la punta rischia di lavorare quasi a secco! Se lo si fa con punte di diametro più grande che necessitano di meno giri l’effetto “ombrello” diminuisce o scompare ma non va bene lo stesso, perché il refrigerante che arriva con pressione dei tagli della pinza ER e va in direzione della punta e del foro che sta eseguendo tende si a raffreddare la punta ma ne ostacola la fuoriuscita dei trucioli che la punta stessa genera ! È molto meglio utilizzare il getto “leggero” del classico refrigerante esterno tramite i tubi esterni. ( intendo la prima punta in m.d. Che esegue il foro dopo la fresa in m.d. allarga la tasca circolare lavorando a secco ) .😊 Ciao
That chuck was the most bad ass piece I've seen!!! It looks like art by an artist.
What an absolute unit.
I'm currently working on one of our ancient Matsuura 3-axis mills and I just got done with roughing a 1100 lb block down to the point where the largest of our 5-axis machines can actually lift it 😅
you guys dont use EDM and save all the stock that comes off? or do they not make big enough cost effective EDM machines?
Nice adapter plate! Also: Liebe the versatility to the Schunk chuck -Deutsche Hersteller sind von hoher Qualität ♥️
Not to forget I believe you have a rotating table somewhere in the shop, I believe instead of flipping that job you can fit a rotating table to your Grinding table and then, yes, rotate it while grinding that will even give you a great surface finish!! Challenge Jessy!
It would introduce some minor imperfection
@@MrPRECLIK really!!
@@MrPRECLIK I can imagine the error in the table swing being half or ever better than that!
@@MrPRECLIK if the setup isnt perfect, yes, but rotary grinding with a spinning magnetic chuck can give much better results on large workpieces because you stop worrying about twist in a long machine axis, and instead worry about tilt on a much shorter rotary axis, which is relatively easy to adjust for (grind the magnet on the machine, if nothing else). It's one of the reasons double-disc grinding is so effective. Rotary grinding would also have been probably about half the time, even considering the extra setup, because the mag chuck and that now-magnetic material don't need to be meticulously cleaned several times. I do it at work on parts that need to be flat and parallel within .0002 and can be sub-tenth with relative ease, less than .00005 with some extra care taken in setup. We had one job with a stack of discs on a rotating arbor that runout across the whole assembly (28 large discs, with 27 smaller in between as spacers) was .0002 tir. Takes a lot of time to set up, or a lot of practice setting it up quickly, then it's relatively straightforward. Defeating the magnetic distortion from the chuck and stresses from heat treatment was the worst bit.
Awesome Job Barry! Love seeing the whole team working!
Oh my god this is insane, can not wait to see the chuck in action!
Yes me either! It’s insanely nice!!!
Yeah I got one of these for my Tormach. It’s been great.
Hahahaha
Good point re fixturing in general.. in my days as a NC PROGRAMMER it was something that planners and cost analysers overlooked especially on castings and similar prismatic components. Trying to explain that design and Toolroom manufacture would be required sometimes boiled my brain. Other than that, great times.
Nothing but the best for the beast!
@2:46 bravo 👏
I bet that little trick you showed us some time ago came really handy when making those close tolerance holes😜
nicely done, Schunk is awesome stuff and i can hardly wait to see that piece of round stock vertically mounted in that Schunk chuck unless you've got a special trick up your sleeve Barry 😉,it will be very interesting to see
Oh we have a special trick!
This is crazy stuff. Nothing like the student machine shop I used decades ago.
Holly Macro! That is the mother of all Monsters! :)
One step closer to making some massive chips! Nice work Barry, I’ll have your jaws soon 😆
Love your videos! It just blows my mind the things your capable to do!!!
It looks like your shop could benefit from some magnetic lifting devices. I personally like the brand Magswitch but there are a lot of manufactures out there for switchable magnetics and they have products that will safely lift several tons.
You can’t those magnets will scratch the shit out of your fixtures from any chips they pick up, lifting bolts is a much better option. I used to use them at my last job they worked great to move ( yes It sounds bad) long shafts into my lathe.
I'm not so sure. We use magnets occasionally but the big problem with magnets is magnetizing fixtures and every fine piece of material is drawn to the fixtures. However, sometimes you just have to do what you gotta do...
I was keen to watch a Heller video.
Чем то напомнил мне станок dmg 200, тоже интересная работа была на нем :)
I would love to spend a week in your shop to see all the behind the scenes what your whole team get up to
Hahahahaha you would LAUGH
Honestly getting close to 20% subs is really good. I only have like 1-2% haha.
Oh god, what a nightmare of a setup if you don't get the table super clean or accidentally drag a chip onto the table when loading the fixture/chuck. I love the challenge but setups like this are why I'm grumpy. My back doesn't like all the leaning into the machine anymore. It will usually take a couple of days for me to recoup.
That chuck is beast tho.
Mr trevor We are waiting to see those jaws man
Do your best Mr Barry We want to break a new record for the largest chips in the world BOOM 💥
Do your best titans 👏 💪 👌
Every day love this profession more and more ♥
BRING ON THE CHIPS...... SPARTAN ROAR 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤🇬🇧
That's awesome
You guys should make your own fractal vise it would be a great way of holding irregular shaped pieces
0:37 made me wince.
Looking forward to the next video
Oh 😳 this is nice it's were nice 👍🏼
Nice schunk showroom
My mind is blown
When Schunk designed this Chuck, what was the application intention and what kind of mounting did they envision? That is way way way madly with Barry in the wheels and Jessy staring!
Boa tarde doido Brazil e adoro assistir o conteúdo vocês são ótimos com essas máquinas já trabalhei com cnc trabalhava com uma KITAMURA se não me falha a memória era um modelo HX630I ou HX 6300I fazendo usinagem do bloco do motor Scania
is the makino that was used to make the titanium tutorial still in the shop
No… but that was a good machine. This Heller is a Monster.
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Ciao una curiosità: perché non avete creato un sistema con unità a punto zero per sostituire velocemente il mandrino della shunk ? Intendo quelle con la sicurezza anti-sganciamento così da non rischiare nulla durante la fase di tornitura?
Barry and Titans, do you have a vertical lathe? Can you teach a little about it? Thank you.
This is a mill turn, but we will also be using it as a VTL
Last time I tried to grind a36 stainless steel it wouldn’t stick to my magnet. How did you guys get a magnetic grade?
Brooooo, star pattern on the torque lol com' on mangg
Ееее... вот это мощь!
drink every time he says chuck
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Oof, that is one amazing chuck, I would love to have this at my
Current job, how much does one of these cost?😂 so I can convince my supervisors to get us one . Looking forward to seeing the next video. I ask because they don’t offer a price only a quote and if it’s astronomical my boss will say no Lol😂
Depends on the size... starting around 7k
Will that fit my 9x19 Grizzly lathe?
Very nice, but the real question is: The bolts that are holding down the chuck to the machine, Metric or Inch? 🧐
HAHAHA metric 😢
@@barrysetzer 😂
You got me puzzled Barry,are you going to machine that billet on that machine like a vertical lathe?
Yes 😊
A36 Stainless Steel???? lol
Proabably billet too lmao
Hey! I'm wondering if you know how to paint/fill text and symbols that are cnc engraved onto metal such as aluminium? I have previously ordered cnc engraved panels from some various companies, and they always fill the engraved text with paint - either white or some other color. Is this paint, powder coating, what is it - and how do you do it?
I thought A36 was a carbon steel?
Hey guys never heard of A36 Stainless steel 😂
Ummmm.. A36 is carbon steel not stainless Mr. Video Editor sir 😉
... when can u make my dream car - Lamborghini - in ONE CNC CUT - yes we KeNN.
These boys been spending more time eating q than making chips since the Texas move
I was from the 72% 🤭.. sorry.. but not any more
Am I the only one who is wondering how stainless steel can be fixtured by a magnet in the grinding machine? 🤔
Ferritic stainless steels are magnetic because they contain ferrite which is a compound of iron.
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Warum verwendet ihr keinen Krahn? Das wäre doch viel einfach als das Bauteil mit den Stapler in die Maschine zu heben.
An jede Maschine gehört ein kleiner Krahn mit 250kg bis 3 Tonnen, jeweils an die Maschienengröße angepasst.
Falls ihr in USA keinen hersteller habt könnt ihr euch zu Abus wenden, da wird man euch weiterhelfen.
Grüße aus Deutschland
You guys seriously need to get yourselves some jib hoists mounted next to the machines and do away with using the forklift to load them. Turn a 2 man job into a 1 man job.
Hi
A36 isn't stainless...hello....
Yeah, removing those few dozen grams of material with this pocket will definitely increase machine capacity by a lot 😂
Nice chuck. I prefer lifting with slings, these don't scratch or dent the workpiece and don' t slide that easy of the forks when using a forklift.
this is truly frightening ...
Give it to me ...
26 INCHES FLAT TO .0001 DONT THINK SO
but cpm n money are in views 50k can make money with adds and watch it all
If you need it and you can’t buy it you make it!!! 👍👍🤙
Good job, going to report me again?
Aggressively asking for a sub is why I haven't
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@@TITANSofCNC I didn't complain, just explained
terrible level of lifting equipment : o(
I just unsubscribed after barrys commercial, do better titan
I did… I hired Barry😂😂😂
Why don't you just start a school already lol.
We have 160,000 students on Academy.titansofcnc.com and just came out with CNCEXPERT.com
@@TITANSofCNC oh I know I just meant like a big shop type school. It could be the new college.
Get a crane, this handling of Heavy is making me sick…
Why you guys use husky’s brand on ratchet? You feels pure quality! Use snap on instead! ‘:D’
Im very suprised you shop doesnt have a ceiling crane because you coild have a ceiling crane service that entire space😂
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Ciao, una curiosità:
Perché non avete eseguito la lavorazione per inserire 4 unità a punto zero ( quelle con sicurezza anti-sganciamento nella fase di fornitura ) nella piastra d’interfaccia così da avere un cambio rapido del mandrino shunk con qualsiasi altra attrezzatura? ( invece di fissarla con viti filettate, che fa perdere molto più tempo nel togliere il mandrino ?
Nella lavorazione della piastra avete fatto una cosa che no va MAI fatta! Cioè mettere il refrigerante interno anche se la punta in m.d. montata nel mandrino non ha i fori, ( oppure la punta ha i fori mentre la pinza ER dov’è montata la punta non è a tenuta stagna e quindi il refrigerante esce dai tagli della pinza ) in questo modo fuoriesce dagli intagli delle pinze ER ed essendo piccola la punta necessita di elevati giri ed il refrigerante che esce genera un effetto “ombrello” cioè va all’estero di dove avviene la lavorazione di foratura! È la punta rischia di lavorare quasi a secco!
Se lo si fa con punte di diametro più grande che necessitano di meno giri l’effetto “ombrello” diminuisce o scompare ma non va bene lo stesso, perché il refrigerante che arriva con pressione dei tagli della pinza ER e va in direzione della punta e del foro che sta eseguendo tende si a raffreddare la punta ma ne ostacola la fuoriuscita dei trucioli che la punta stessa genera ! È molto meglio utilizzare il getto “leggero” del classico refrigerante esterno tramite i tubi esterni.
( intendo la prima punta in m.d. Che esegue il foro dopo la fresa in m.d. allarga la tasca circolare lavorando a secco ) .😊
Ciao