I feel it's fair, dough. The reprints keep modern halfway afordable, at least if you have some disposable income. You can start budget and upgrade month by month. Investors have the reserved list cards, leave the rest to the players.
@@MrLoowiz same fam. just over night. with a tweet. smth like "we thought about it, in 6 months the reserved list is off and we reprint some stuff in small numbers." just heavily stunts the games printed popularity. Id buy more stuff if i could make some legacy and myabe even some vintage stuff. and smth like a 6 month advance is enough time to give investors time to sort out their stuff aswell
Ya I feel like even modern will be worth alot in 20 years. Think about it. Players going use the cards. Have nostalgia for those cards. Like I think old rudy knows when he wanna cash out and knows he wont make as much with modern but I think modern still collectable.i have no old cards in mtg but am working on a strixhaven full set.cuz I love the art.
uhhh, you have no idea what youre talking about! You can buy older boxes, open the packs and the foils wont be curled AT ALL.... They foiling on the FTV is weak, they literally do it for a reason. So no, all foils do not curl over time, the older ones were made better and are way harder to curl. The newer cards curl easily.
Untrue, ive literally had hundreds of curl free older foils. I actually have FTV Lore and the sealed Jitte pack is completely straight(i kid you not and could prove it). So no, not ALL foils curl.
yeah dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. its only their low quality sets that are prone to curly foils. you are commenting on an alphainvestment video as well, where Rudy always makes a point on older foils to mention oh not curled they are... From the vault sucks. They look bad, they feel bad. I wouldnt even say the foils weaker, i think they have too much on the FTV products. The cards are thicker than regular foils. Chill.
It's crazy to invest so much money when the supply of the product is entirely controlled by one company. That's like buying Amazon shares and the company says we'll issue new shares all the time.
I wouldn't trade an Alpha Lotus in Mint condition for this collection. Even if the value is more. 1. More work to sell small cards. 2. Reprints will kill the value. 3. An alpha lotus will continue to exponentially go up, while these cards will exponentially tank. 4. Chinese fakes are so good, the fakes are getting out of control. 5. I hate sorting cards.
Vintage MTG i am a first hand witness to the newest of the Chinese counterfeits from "Ron Ou". Being a Magic player since 94, I can tell IMMEDIATELY from the fakes to the reals. The gloss, the feel, the printing...is all not 100% accurate. I can see how it could fool a non experienced player, though.
I looked up Alpha Lotuses, was shocked that the asking price for graded 9+ isn’t higher already. I’m definitely not a millionaire, but I have some money invested. Tell me I’m crazy for thinking that I should invest in an Alpha Lotus. Or else I’m going to do it...
Reprints are good bro. Makes the game accessible to new players. And the game NEEDS new players. It's like you said, it's a trading card game. Not a collect and make a living off it game for everyone.
What's up buddy. Your boi Spin here. Hit me up. Sorry married life has made it hard to chill but luckily we are finally settled in so I can chill bad news is now she wants kids lulz
As an avid modern player, there is a market for every thing shown. It's unfortunate that people speculate on non-reserve list stuff and get burned. I have sets of non-reserved stuff but I'm not an investor, I play all of the cards I own at different times depending on what my flavor of the week is. Btw this is an awesome collection. Would love you have a card library like this.
I pretty much just made the same observation on my own channel. Yup, you are correct Rudy. I think much of the player base is giving up on new cards holding value.
to be frank if the cards don't hold value this game is ridiculously expensive. a large reason people are willing to put so much money into the game is the belief that they can get most of that money back out.
That poor guy owns 12 of every reprinted card. Awkward on the 3 identical but 1 different playsets for reselling, too. I bet Rudy goes for the volcanic islands and a handful of other cards but passes on the rest
To all the people saying "cards need to have value otherwise people won't buy packs" Wizards literally sees 0% income on a game store selling a card. If a LGS sells a misty rain forest for $100 (they were $100 at one time) Wizards sees none, the game store probably bought it for $25-50 and made a huge profit. If Wizards puts a misty rainforest into a pack and sells that pack they make money. It's smarter for them to sell reprints. The LGS make more money this way too. Small margin/large volume is a more consistent business model than large margin/small volume. If that Misty sits on the shelf for a year, the business has lost money because nobody can afford to pay the cost. Most people don't think twice about buying a few packs to crack so the business will make their sale quickly. Packs will still get cracked because standard is still the premier format and rotation ensures that pack cracking will always happen, not to mention drafts. If a business fails because the cost of singles tanked it means they didn't have a diversified business model. It is not Wizards job, nor should it even be their concern, if bad business owners fail. Your business should be able to sustain itself from sealed products like packs, board games, accessories, and snacks. Singles should be your extra income. The "Good if I get it but I can till pay to keep the doors open if I don't" objects. You should never bet 100% on something so volatile. If a deck falls out of favor and the price tanks it has the same effect. Actually, banning cards has a worse effect on a cards price since if its legal and reprinted at least you can still play it. When people take the position, "Well, it's just a hobby. Hobbies are expensive and magic isn't even as expensive as some other hobbies like building custom pcs" (yes people make this argument to tell me how it's my fault I can't afford the game) my response is "Well, it' just a hobby. Hobbies are money sinks and magic isn't even the worst one like going to a shooting range. You can't resell spent ammo." I mean, ya, it's great that you get to resell your cards that you've had since you were a kid, but I shouldn't have to pay a tax because I was born in 1990 and was 3 when magic came out. I couldn't start playing until Kamigawa so everything before it I pay a tax on because I'm too young to have had it new. I understand that that gives me a head start over a lot of other people. I played through ravnica (both), zendikar, Innistrad, and everything else since nearly 8th edition. When they announced modern I already had a playset of fetches, shocks, snapcastres, lilis...That made me vastly advantaged over someone who didn't have that. I don't, however, feel entitled to that advantage. If I go into a game playing all of those expensive cards I paid $15 for (the average cost for a LotV when she rotated pre-modern era) it's no better than the one some poor kid had to pay $100 for just to play at the same power level as I am playing. It makes the game lopsided where income is as big a determiner of success as ability. It's like playing chess but I have all queens and you have all pawns but you're allowed to pay $50 each to upgrade to a queen. It's a blatantly unfair aspect of the game. Yes, some people will be priced out at any price point, the objective should not be to make it affordable to everyone, but to at least as many people as is reasonable exactable.
Wizards don't make money on that $100 misty rain forest sale, but that sale does make them money in the long run. The more valuable that card becomes, the more people there will be collecting and buying newer packs in hopes of a return. If Wizards keeps reprinting and killing the value of all cards, then no one will collect anymore and the only people who will buy new packs are actual players. I guess it comes down to who buys more packs? Collectors or players? If it's players, then reprinting makes sense. If it's collectors, then reprinting will kill Wizards' income.
It all comes down to one thing: What is Magic: the Gathering? Is it a collectable first? If so, then WOTC needs to avoid reprints. Old cards NEED to become more expensive. Values should always trend up over time. Is it a game first? If so, the WOTC needs to make sure prices don't spiral out of control and lock actual players out of the game. Obviously this isn't a black and white issue. It needs to be BOTH things if the game is going to survive in it's current state. Without collectors, value is lost - killing interest. Without players, interest is lost - killing value. Maybe reserved list cards will be collectable items first, and non-reserved list will be game pieces first. Maybe the reserved list will go away, and WOTC will try to gently balance accessibility and value. IDK
it doesn't matter if you define it as a Trading card Game or a Collectible Card Game, the important part of both definitions is GAME, and a game needs pieces to play and if some of those pieces aren't available then your game can't be played as intended
I feel like they should have really nice cards that won't break play (meaning people who have them won't just decimate others) in every set that they never reprint. They need to have a few rare cards.Even if it is just one thing in each set. Plus it will make people feel like they are buying a lottery ticket pretty much! I dunno why they don't do that though?
This. Fucking THIS. It's OK that they don't reprint RL, after all those are not legal in Modern, the most popular format, so it doesn't affect the vast majority of players. Also those are very rare and unique cards, value is there. Wizards MUST reprint the most played cards in Modern in order to keep the game healthy, and speculators can all go fuck themselves as the parasytes they are. WoTC should also print super rare cards (alternate art, special foil, etc) of few cards, just as they did with Kaladesh and their Masterpieces. Those cards will hold value, and should never be reprinted again, since they are unique, and don't affect the competitive scene. Balance is possible, and I Hope WOTC will see it already.
If mm17 was designed to drop the prices for the zendikar fetchlands. Then why is my LGS charging $85 for a scalding tarn. Mind you that is Canadian, but that is absurd.
I just rolled played with my wife that i was creepy rudy and she came into my card shop and i had my way with her on the card table... I think you're famous when things like this happen.
Absolutely, u can't touch unglued/unhinged lands, they are insanely beautiful (demand is there especially for commander players) + wizards will definitely not reprint both land cycles.
Totally agree, thanks to all the formats of MTG and the human condition. Those unhinged/unglued lands (and old lands) are safe bets for future value. Look at the hype around the foil unstable lands. It was crazy.
All I gotta say is thank the Wizards for reprints. I'd rather a card be priced upon it's power or aesthetics rather than it's rarity. I know this is an investment channel... but I'm just trying to get one copy of a card for a personal collection of mine that I can play and never sell. I'm not into Magic to make money but I know that's what this channel deals with.
Look at the prices for Alpha cards, especially graded ones: Shivan Dragon, a dollar rare, is currently... $1300 near mint. Reprints do not hurt the collectible value of the original printings: they hurt the speculative value of "investors" and help people who don't care about what printing a card is, they just want the cards to play the game.
Lakanna That's not even remotely true. Alpha/Beta is a slightly unique circumstance because of its own scarcity, but everything else doesn't follow this even a little. Reprints have decimated the values of original printings for pretty much everything else, unless it was a very very special circumstance like 7th Edition foils or... nope, that's the only example I can think of that isn't ABU.
just wanted to say that "most" people didnt start at 5th to 7th edition. a large influx of players did start around those two releases, particularly 7th. then there was a lull. it picked back up around ravnica. then there was another lull, and we saw another large wave of players come back in at Return to Rav and an even bigger one with Theros - That is where the majority of players discovered or rediscovered this game. Wizards was printing a ton of cards around RtR, too many. folks who attach financial value to their collections have to realize that the concept of rarity is directly connected with the number of people playing and collecting. As larger waves of players come in and start picking through singles and buying old product for whatever formats theyre playing in, the supply will thin out, then you will feel like cards from certain sets are rare. Rudy expresses that certain cards are never going to go up in value because he sees that there are too many printed compared to the number of people beginning to play, with consideration to the attrition of some players leaving the game. from his short term concerns of buying and selling, he isnt really wrong. that doesnt mean wizards wont do it right again and gain interest of another large wave of players in the near future and restart that trend though.
Then who is going to sell you cards? If the secondary market is worthless than stores aren't going to want to buy product from players, because to keep a stock of cards that constantly depreciate in value doesn't make financial sense. Follow that sequence of events stores don't want to buy player's cards(due to the basically guaranteed loss of holding stock for players), leads to them not buying card's from players. Leaving no stock for trades at a store, makes it so you have to buy from other player's(online or otherwise[risk of fakes etc.]). This creates access issues for creating the deck you want, people would get fed up about the inaccessibility of it. Not to mention that this model would punish those who play for extended periods of time. All in all decreasing the player base.
Then who the fuck is going to play if simple cards are a $100 a pop. It's a playing card game that has demand and it's a piece of cardboard. Just because you can't get a card and rape money from your fellow players you got to shit all over everyone that doesn't want to spend a fortune on every card. The stores already do shitty because the standard format is expensive as fuck and once it's out of play the prices drop on everything because standard. GTFO with you trying to fuck over other players by hoarding like a fucking loser.
Since we're on the subject of reprints, do you think Liliana of the Veil will see one? Should I buy her now at her current $75'ish mark? I've been waiting for her to drop in value, and she's never budging.
@@ReactiveTraction Yea, she budged, but only barely lol. She's still ~$50 at cheapest across every one of her reprints despite Modern being quiet and despite WotC reprinting her every year.
@@ReMeDy_TV Thanks for the update! Interesting. Good to hear that the price stabilize over time but no appreciation due to reprints is kind of sad. Also, fun to see all the reserved list haters in these old comments. 😂
Hey Rudy, I've never touched a Chinese fake so I couldn't give an accurate opinion, but I wanted to ask about the early event decks that came out. Core 2012 set had a deck called Vampire Onslaught. It was mono black but contained one Verdant Catacombs. When I was selling these sets in my comic shop, I distinctly remember that these sets were extra glossy. Can you still tell the difference between these, the originals, and the fakes? 2 Bloodghasts, 4 Dismembers, 2 Go for the Throats, was probably one of the better decks back in the day. Hope to hear your opinion!
I am trying to sell my collection too.. but got the same problem, every new reprint collection, the value goes down down.. and it seems, to me at least, that this is out of control. We got a two year reprint set - what was reasonable.. but now.. i dont know.. it feels that is one each semester lol
All you guys commenting saying Magic wasn’t meant to be collectible or tradable or investable or valuable and Wizards never meant for this to happen are about as blind as a bat. Wizards wants and needs their cards to have value so that people want to buy and continue to buy packs and cards. Don’t be dumb.
I know this comment is three years old however who is "Magic" Richard Garfield DID NOT intended the game to be this expensive,his intentions were to have a game that everyone would enjoy and play,why are people still Playing so much Yu-gi-oh,because the most op cards dont cost 300 dollars and booster boxes are literally 60 bucks...so don't tell me Magic was not meant to be cheap it was indeed made to be cheap and fun ,the corporation and Hasbro made it what it is inow
Ever since the first modern masters set, I didn't buy any modern or non reserve list card if it wasn't reprinted if I didn't need it to play a deck. In the lulls between sets I bought reserve list cards like dual lands and legacy stuff and I haven't been disappointed. I have 2 modern decks, waiting for reprints to build Affinity, have 1 legacy deck, and am just about to fill out a full playset of duals.
So I've got an odd question about mtg prices. long story short a card store F**ked me for 163 aud. and its struggling with the idea of compensation. so far he has offered me a 2016 magic origins booster box, i'm finding prices that are all over the place? is that worth the 163 or would shall i ask for a refund?
The cards I saw seemed more like $6,000. But those boxes by color were probably also worth about $5,000. Interesting how he left out the best card on the last page.
I recently sold out of magic entirely, and while I wasn't holding onto 20k worth of Modern cards, I did have a pretty penny. For me, it was less that I was investing, and more I just slowly got a lot of cards and the reprint sets just continued hitting the value over and over and over again. There's a point when you have to decide, is it worth hanging onto this when you know all the money is just going to milk away.
I am an mtg player, and currently I pretty much only play limited because that is all I can afford to play. I would love to play Modern, and I am about half-way through building a deck, but one of the main cards I still need (Mox Opal) hasn't seen a reprint in a while and is still pretty expensive. From my personal point of view, I don't see how the interests of speculators and investors are not diametrically opposed to the interests of players like myself. I live in the UK, and haven't seen a LGS here selling singles in years, so I don't really see what supporting retailers has to do with anything. I get that it is preferable for cards to hold some value over time, but is it really necessary to have individual cards to be valued so highly? Could someone explain why they think this is the case? Particularly looking at the competition from games like Hearthstone, which are far cheaper to play, it seems to me like the opposite is more likely to be true.
Yep. Legacy/Vintage can be expensive because these are collectors formats. Modern should be affordable and definitely not more than 500$/deck. Standard not more than 200. Would just like to have all reserve list cards banned from EDH as these push up competetive commander deck prices to T1 modern decks/legacy decks
hy, i find an advert for 848 cards rare included, what do you think? if i buy it i can make some money? please i want to know if is worthing. I will send a picture
I sold up last year, no where near as big a collection (about £2000). I lost quite a bit of money but thats due to me getting into modern around inistrad and out recently as the reprints tank all prices. Prob took a 30% - 50% hit across the board but i justifyed it as i played magic for 4 years for not too much money. I feel for this guy because as you said at the start, people have this money memory and dont want to face the reality of what the mtg price trend is which (outside reserved) is down down down.
I was a long time player but missed out on the legacy lands at 25-40$. I owned a few fetches when they first came out but never invested the final bit of money to finish decks since i wasnt going to tournaments I figured I could just use proxies with friends and save the money.. huge mistake looking back on it. Then I sold out of legacy deciding prices were to high to finish my deck and got into modern in the early months. Ive lost all of my value in modern almost and a good amount of the legacy cards I sold have gone up a decent amount since then(6 cradles sold at 25$ each). I kept wastelands and karakas thinking I'd save some value in hopes of increase in price later and a single set tanked their value. The market has not been kind to me, it seems I'm always a day late or i buy early and price falls. I'm still playing but am now on the path of waiting for reprints before I buy because losing value constantly makes the game just as unplayable as trying to finish a deck that needs crazy priced cards due to supply.
I have a large collection of modern to current cards but i buy the occasional small collection and trade for cards for my own. I spend maybe 2k a year on sealed product but i almost never pre order singles because they drop like a rock when they roll out of standard so I'll trade for lands and planeswalkers from older sets as a small investment since i don't really put that much into the newer cards.
While I don't like the reserved list as a player, as it puts a high barrier of entry to playing older formats, I also don't like how much they reprint newer cards. A simple policy in between, where they basically won't reprint cards within a specific period of time since it's last release, would be a good compromise. And definitely not a short enough time a card gets released multiple times in a year. I'd say a 2 year gap would be good enough for commons, and more time for higher rarities.
Why I've transitioned all my recent collection acquisitions to Reserved List and Sealed Product... Sucks but oh well I still build Master Sets for Fun!
If wizards ever drops or phases out the reserved list, expect Rudy and the guy from vintage magic to jump out a window. More so the guy from vintage magic as he doesn't have a million revenue streams.
grabbity value will drop for sure, but wotc can't go back in time and print more boxes. Vintage cards will always be valuable just for the fact that they are just that vintage. Reprinting reserve list will only get more players involved in playing the older formats, and coulld help drive the price up as these new players to thhe format will want original vintage cards.
Definitely agree. It's essentially a promise made back when it was needed, and it's purpose has been served. The game is stable, and the masters sets have proven the values would be fine and it would get more players in to more formats. It's win win. Anyone who is pro reserved list is only in favor of it for entirely selfish reasons. There aren't any reasons they could claim that weren't all about making or keeping money. Dbags.
Card value is based on playability and demand, once legacy/vintage becomes a dead format due to less people playing them in paper all those reserved list cards will drop like a rock. If you need evidence look at the ce/IE cards that are actually rarer than ABU but worth shit because they are not tournament legal. In another decade wizards will push all those high end formats out with magic arena/mtg. Kind of like how they killed the reserved "loopholes" just before they released the masters set online that provided all the necessary cards to play vintage/legacy online.
Instead of reprinting en mass cards, WotC should start reprint then put more cards on the Reserve List. For example now with 3 printing, snapcaster mage should go to the reserve list. It will stabilize the price and keep the collector happy to invest in them. You can do the same with every card too powerful for standard (shocks, path to exile, bolts, etc...) even crap cards that see minor play Nissa, Vastwood seer, Kaya, ghost assassin, even the new crap Tezzeret, the schemer. With the amount of printing nowadays you could easily buy those cards and be sure they retain value. If they do it properly, you might see it this way: 1. after a the set rotates out of Standards we will announce 3M, 3R, 3U, 3C we will put on the RL from this set. 2. after the set is released the 3M, 3R, 3U, 3C we will put on the RL from this set. 3. after the second/ third reprint these cards will go to the RL. etc, etc.... You can do a lot of stuff if you hire competent people and do it correctly. Then collectors are happy, players wants to play to open more boxes, shops sells more stuff. I dont mind buying a card for 100$ if it will retain value. But i will never buy a card for 30$ if it will drop next month to 5$.
Sounds good to me. Speculators and investors can have all the cards few players play or want, and players get the cards that investors and speculators don't want to get in on. Everybody wins.
Guys like him are going the way of the dinosaur for sure. There's no point in buying any modern/standard cards at all unless you intend to put them in a deck. Old school and reserved list is where it's at .
Reprints of cards meant for frequent /casual or competitive play is good for the game. But reprinting old cards or the reserve list is definitely bad. It's a tricky subject.
You know what I don't get about people who say it's a players game and not a collector's / investors? a) "C"cg b) Por que no los dos? i.e. someone can't be both? c) relating to b) I couldn't conscience spending money to draft/play standard unless I could convert some of that into long term value. So I haven't been. Thinking this isn't the result Wizards wants.
My son just started collecting which got me back into it as well. Ive never owned a piece of power nine and I really want to add one to our collection. Obviously unlimited versions are cheapest but my question is which of the power nine is the cheapest card to get me and my sons collection started? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a ton and keep up the awesome work on the videos.
There needs to be a balance between card value and availability. You kill with value with too many reprints and collectors feel burned and are less likely to invest money in buying cards in the future.
He went too hard on singles. I almost feel bad for him. I'd like to think me liquidating standard cards into reserve list cards is better. That and into my nostalgia cards. Usually original Ravnica, Mirrodin and Kamegawa
Since I buy TCG`s to PLAY and not collcet, I can`t give less of a fuck about this, in fact, that just means I don`t need to sell my house and a kidney to get the card I need to play either format. So yeah, keep rerpinting.
So the TLDW version is "You speculated heavily on this?" "Yeah" "And then the re-printed?" "Yeah and it tanked" "They're not worth a lot" "Absolutely" - Nice guy but I feel really bad for people like this. People who think holding onto MTG cards or amassing them to flip them like stocks have to realize it's not a limited source. If it's not on the reserved list and it's heavily played and/or prohibitively priced WOTC *WILL* and I would argue should re-print them. It's a game and a lot of cards have the value they do because of their playability compared to their supply.
This guy would make so much $ if he sold his collection individually himself. For that kind of cash it's worth putting the work in and getting top dollar for the whole thing.
Jace the mind sculptor will be reprinted in the next set at common rarity. That's basically what konami does with yu-gi-oh on a monthly basis. I can understand why he shifted away from that game.
This is for the perfetct investigator of counterfeit cards that Creepy Rudy thinks he will find. How can I FIND or even have a chance to find counterfeit cards in Sweden? I have played the game and sold all my cards in january 1996 and the rest shortly after including 40 duals and all the moxes if it makeas a difference? The market here in Sweden is so damn small that only two competitors sell the stuff on the reserve list. And most of the time they do not have anyting for sale. How can it be possible to check if a card is ok if you have nothing to compare with? I have waited for a year for a Savannah (a revised one!) but I have never even seen one for sale so far in Sweden! Legacy is going to... Vintage is going to... Unless FAKE CARDS got an extra printing! After I stopped playing in january 1996 I have actually started playing again and when I sold my cards it was 100 SEK per dual land and now I have bought back 4 of 40. The price has been closer too 5000 SEK. How it is possible for anyone in Sweden when one card is sold once and then to see if it is legit or not? The two major shops in Sweden is: Svenska Magic and Dragonslair. Are we safe here in Sweden just becuse the market is so small? Getting a set of the moxes and 4 Juzam Jinns was tricky in 1995 for me but are we still so far away from the rest of the world here in Sweden? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Larsson is now known and we have two other sedes in the Hall of Fame. I repeat my question: How can we possibly se a fake card here in Sweden when I have been looking for a Savannah over a year now? My name is Åke
With there reprints i have stoped buying singles and playing and format. I'm not a investor! But when i spend $100s on a play set and two months later they are only worth $30. This makes trading to play diff decks and formats near impossible because you never know what will be reprinted next!
Wizards should reprint absolute everything, the old cards prize would not suffer a lot... they keep being from "original sets" and people could play again Magic without making the typical poor and boring decks full of creatures, as the childish game it became.
I feel it's fair, dough. The reprints keep modern halfway afordable, at least if you have some disposable income. You can start budget and upgrade month by month. Investors have the reserved list cards, leave the rest to the players.
The reserved list is still bullshit and I hope WotC ends it.
@@MrLoowiz Agreed. The old versions of cards would sill hold significant value.
There is no need for the Reserved List today.
@@berndb3141 Shivan Dragon agrees with what you said.
@@MrLoowiz same fam. just over night. with a tweet. smth like "we thought about it, in 6 months the reserved list is off and we reprint some stuff in small numbers."
just heavily stunts the games printed popularity.
Id buy more stuff if i could make some legacy and myabe even some vintage stuff.
and smth like a 6 month advance is enough time to give investors time to sort out their stuff aswell
Ya I feel like even modern will be worth alot in 20 years. Think about it. Players going use the cards. Have nostalgia for those cards. Like I think old rudy knows when he wanna cash out and knows he wont make as much with modern but I think modern still collectable.i have no old cards in mtg but am working on a strixhaven full set.cuz I love the art.
Its hilarious how the FtVs still packaged are curling. Great job Wizards.
uhhh, you have no idea what youre talking about! You can buy older boxes, open the packs and the foils wont be curled AT ALL.... They foiling on the FTV is weak, they literally do it for a reason. So no, all foils do not curl over time, the older ones were made better and are way harder to curl. The newer cards curl easily.
Untrue, ive literally had hundreds of curl free older foils. I actually have FTV Lore and the sealed Jitte pack is completely straight(i kid you not and could prove it). So no, not ALL foils curl.
yeah dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. its only their low quality sets that are prone to curly foils. you are commenting on an alphainvestment video as well, where Rudy always makes a point on older foils to mention oh not curled they are...
From the vault sucks. They look bad, they feel bad. I wouldnt even say the foils weaker, i think they have too much on the FTV products. The cards are thicker than regular foils.
Chill.
you just needed o comment to get your count in for the day, huh?
they cut so many costs now its ridiculous...thats why i only collect older cards pre 2000
It's crazy to invest so much money when the supply of the product is entirely controlled by one company. That's like buying Amazon shares and the company says we'll issue new shares all the time.
the entire video...... "did you think they were gonna go up in value?" "yeah"
Flexzone a scam.
I wouldn't trade an Alpha Lotus in Mint condition for this collection. Even if the value is more. 1. More work to sell small cards. 2. Reprints will kill the value. 3. An alpha lotus will continue to exponentially go up, while these cards will exponentially tank. 4. Chinese fakes are so good, the fakes are getting out of control. 5. I hate sorting cards.
Vintage MTG i am a first hand witness to the newest of the Chinese counterfeits from "Ron Ou".
Being a Magic player since 94, I can tell IMMEDIATELY from the fakes to the reals. The gloss, the feel, the printing...is all not 100% accurate. I can see how it could fool a non experienced player, though.
Nick Mionie I can almost guarantee there are cards in your personal collection that are fake and you don't even know it
You are a fool.
I looked up Alpha Lotuses, was shocked that the asking price for graded 9+ isn’t higher already. I’m definitely not a millionaire, but I have some money invested. Tell me I’m crazy for thinking that I should invest in an Alpha Lotus. Or else I’m going to do it...
@@chrisp2757 Better invest into something real and not into fuckin cardboard
Reprints are good bro. Makes the game accessible to new players. And the game NEEDS new players.
It's like you said, it's a trading card game. Not a collect and make a living off it game for everyone.
Nice, Creepy Rudy getting rich enough to hire actors.
:^)
Rudy did a good job of not getting this guy's hopes up
What's up buddy. Your boi Spin here. Hit me up. Sorry married life has made it hard to chill but luckily we are finally settled in so I can chill bad news is now she wants kids lulz
And thank god for reprints. I want my set of Aether Vial for cheap already.
As an avid modern player, there is a market for every thing shown. It's unfortunate that people speculate on non-reserve list stuff and get burned. I have sets of non-reserved stuff but I'm not an investor, I play all of the cards I own at different times depending on what my flavor of the week is. Btw this is an awesome collection. Would love you have a card library like this.
Speculators being shafted, Cheaper modern and standard?. Yes GIVE ME MOARRRRRRR!!!!!
Props. Always nice to see a real collector with a sick collection (not just cards). Not many can do it.
I don't even care what set or era it is, I never ever get tired of seeing binders full of cards.
Change the title to "Timmy's 20000$ modern collection"
436w664 I stared going full timmy I have to slow down on buying boxes.
I pretty much just made the same observation on my own channel. Yup, you are correct Rudy. I think much of the player base is giving up on new cards holding value.
You mean you just gave up on buying anything in 2009? Or do you mean you sold all new stuff and just bought reserve list?
And this is a good thing. You shouldn't be buying cards to "invest".
Does anyone just want to play the game? Like fuck card value just go play cube or commander and be fine :D
to be frank if the cards don't hold value this game is ridiculously expensive. a large reason people are willing to put so much money into the game is the belief that they can get most of that money back out.
Vincent Novotny if you just want to play then print proxies and buy nothing. That's fine by me.
That poor guy owns 12 of every reprinted card. Awkward on the 3 identical but 1 different playsets for reselling, too. I bet Rudy goes for the volcanic islands and a handful of other cards but passes on the rest
Thomas Meland 6
To all the people saying "cards need to have value otherwise people won't buy packs" Wizards literally sees 0% income on a game store selling a card. If a LGS sells a misty rain forest for $100 (they were $100 at one time) Wizards sees none, the game store probably bought it for $25-50 and made a huge profit. If Wizards puts a misty rainforest into a pack and sells that pack they make money. It's smarter for them to sell reprints. The LGS make more money this way too. Small margin/large volume is a more consistent business model than large margin/small volume. If that Misty sits on the shelf for a year, the business has lost money because nobody can afford to pay the cost. Most people don't think twice about buying a few packs to crack so the business will make their sale quickly. Packs will still get cracked because standard is still the premier format and rotation ensures that pack cracking will always happen, not to mention drafts. If a business fails because the cost of singles tanked it means they didn't have a diversified business model. It is not Wizards job, nor should it even be their concern, if bad business owners fail. Your business should be able to sustain itself from sealed products like packs, board games, accessories, and snacks. Singles should be your extra income. The "Good if I get it but I can till pay to keep the doors open if I don't" objects. You should never bet 100% on something so volatile. If a deck falls out of favor and the price tanks it has the same effect. Actually, banning cards has a worse effect on a cards price since if its legal and reprinted at least you can still play it. When people take the position, "Well, it's just a hobby. Hobbies are expensive and magic isn't even as expensive as some other hobbies like building custom pcs" (yes people make this argument to tell me how it's my fault I can't afford the game) my response is "Well, it' just a hobby. Hobbies are money sinks and magic isn't even the worst one like going to a shooting range. You can't resell spent ammo." I mean, ya, it's great that you get to resell your cards that you've had since you were a kid, but I shouldn't have to pay a tax because I was born in 1990 and was 3 when magic came out. I couldn't start playing until Kamigawa so everything before it I pay a tax on because I'm too young to have had it new. I understand that that gives me a head start over a lot of other people. I played through ravnica (both), zendikar, Innistrad, and everything else since nearly 8th edition. When they announced modern I already had a playset of fetches, shocks, snapcastres, lilis...That made me vastly advantaged over someone who didn't have that. I don't, however, feel entitled to that advantage. If I go into a game playing all of those expensive cards I paid $15 for (the average cost for a LotV when she rotated pre-modern era) it's no better than the one some poor kid had to pay $100 for just to play at the same power level as I am playing. It makes the game lopsided where income is as big a determiner of success as ability. It's like playing chess but I have all queens and you have all pawns but you're allowed to pay $50 each to upgrade to a queen. It's a blatantly unfair aspect of the game. Yes, some people will be priced out at any price point, the objective should not be to make it affordable to everyone, but to at least as many people as is reasonable exactable.
Wizards don't make money on that $100 misty rain forest sale, but that sale does make them money in the long run. The more valuable that card becomes, the more people there will be collecting and buying newer packs in hopes of a return. If Wizards keeps reprinting and killing the value of all cards, then no one will collect anymore and the only people who will buy new packs are actual players.
I guess it comes down to who buys more packs? Collectors or players? If it's players, then reprinting makes sense. If it's collectors, then reprinting will kill Wizards' income.
Where do ppl find these crazy good counterfeits.. it blows my mind ive seen some shitty ones but never good ones.
It all comes down to one thing: What is Magic: the Gathering?
Is it a collectable first? If so, then WOTC needs to avoid reprints. Old cards NEED to become more expensive. Values should always trend up over time.
Is it a game first? If so, the WOTC needs to make sure prices don't spiral out of control and lock actual players out of the game.
Obviously this isn't a black and white issue. It needs to be BOTH things if the game is going to survive in it's current state.
Without collectors, value is lost - killing interest.
Without players, interest is lost - killing value.
Maybe reserved list cards will be collectable items first, and non-reserved list will be game pieces first. Maybe the reserved list will go away, and WOTC will try to gently balance accessibility and value. IDK
it doesn't matter if you define it as a Trading card Game or a Collectible Card Game, the important part of both definitions is GAME, and a game needs pieces to play and if some of those pieces aren't available then your game can't be played as intended
I feel like you didn't really read my comment. I only used the term Collectible Card Game. That term speaks to both sides, and so did I.
We're way past the point where M:tG could be reasonably called a "fad". The game has been going for 24 years.
I feel like they should have really nice cards that won't break play (meaning people who have them won't just decimate others) in every set that they never reprint. They need to have a few rare cards.Even if it is just one thing in each set. Plus it will make people feel like they are buying a lottery ticket pretty much! I dunno why they don't do that though?
This. Fucking THIS.
It's OK that they don't reprint RL, after all those are not legal in Modern, the most popular format, so it doesn't affect the vast majority of players. Also those are very rare and unique cards, value is there.
Wizards MUST reprint the most played cards in Modern in order to keep the game healthy, and speculators can all go fuck themselves as the parasytes they are.
WoTC should also print super rare cards (alternate art, special foil, etc) of few cards, just as they did with Kaladesh and their Masterpieces. Those cards will hold value, and should never be reprinted again, since they are unique, and don't affect the competitive scene.
Balance is possible, and I Hope WOTC will see it already.
If mm17 was designed to drop the prices for the zendikar fetchlands. Then why is my LGS charging $85 for a scalding tarn. Mind you that is Canadian, but that is absurd.
FadingShad0ws compared to 100 us before reprint? Lol. It's only 50 us here, 40 in trades. Don't buy from store owners..
What ?
Those are like 40-45€ here.
I dont know where you are in the world im assuming The US. but 50 for you is around $63 for us. so if my LGS is charging $20 more that is stupid.
I just rolled played with my wife that i was creepy rudy and she came into my card shop and i had my way with her on the card table... I think you're famous when things like this happen.
I picture creepy hairy Rudy as more of a Furry.
Lands will absolutely NOT "tank" because of Unstable. Jeez. Sell me your lands, then!
Absolutely, u can't touch unglued/unhinged lands, they are insanely beautiful (demand is there especially for commander players) + wizards will definitely not reprint both land cycles.
Totally agree, thanks to all the formats of MTG and the human condition. Those unhinged/unglued lands (and old lands) are safe bets for future value. Look at the hype around the foil unstable lands. It was crazy.
@@zzafrica87 Hahah, right.
I'm here from 2 years in the future where foiled unhinged islands have fallen 40%
All I gotta say is thank the Wizards for reprints. I'd rather a card be priced upon it's power or aesthetics rather than it's rarity. I know this is an investment channel... but I'm just trying to get one copy of a card for a personal collection of mine that I can play and never sell.
I'm not into Magic to make money but I know that's what this channel deals with.
Look at the prices for Alpha cards, especially graded ones: Shivan Dragon, a dollar rare, is currently... $1300 near mint. Reprints do not hurt the collectible value of the original printings: they hurt the speculative value of "investors" and help people who don't care about what printing a card is, they just want the cards to play the game.
Lakanna That's not even remotely true. Alpha/Beta is a slightly unique circumstance because of its own scarcity, but everything else doesn't follow this even a little. Reprints have decimated the values of original printings for pretty much everything else, unless it was a very very special circumstance like 7th Edition foils or... nope, that's the only example I can think of that isn't ABU.
just wanted to say that "most" people didnt start at 5th to 7th edition. a large influx of players did start around those two releases, particularly 7th. then there was a lull. it picked back up around ravnica. then there was another lull, and we saw another large wave of players come back in at Return to Rav and an even bigger one with Theros - That is where the majority of players discovered or rediscovered this game. Wizards was printing a ton of cards around RtR, too many.
folks who attach financial value to their collections have to realize that the concept of rarity is directly connected with the number of people playing and collecting. As larger waves of players come in and start picking through singles and buying old product for whatever formats theyre playing in, the supply will thin out, then you will feel like cards from certain sets are rare. Rudy expresses that certain cards are never going to go up in value because he sees that there are too many printed compared to the number of people beginning to play, with consideration to the attrition of some players leaving the game. from his short term concerns of buying and selling, he isnt really wrong. that doesnt mean wizards wont do it right again and gain interest of another large wave of players in the near future and restart that trend though.
Then who is going to sell you cards? If the secondary market is worthless than stores aren't going to want to buy product from players, because to keep a stock of cards that constantly depreciate in value doesn't make financial sense. Follow that sequence of events stores don't want to buy player's cards(due to the basically guaranteed loss of holding stock for players), leads to them not buying card's from players. Leaving no stock for trades at a store, makes it so you have to buy from other player's(online or otherwise[risk of fakes etc.]). This creates access issues for creating the deck you want, people would get fed up about the inaccessibility of it. Not to mention that this model would punish those who play for extended periods of time. All in all decreasing the player base.
Then who the fuck is going to play if simple cards are a $100 a pop. It's a playing card game that has demand and it's a piece of cardboard. Just because you can't get a card and rape money from your fellow players you got to shit all over everyone that doesn't want to spend a fortune on every card.
The stores already do shitty because the standard format is expensive as fuck and once it's out of play the prices drop on everything because standard.
GTFO with you trying to fuck over other players by hoarding like a fucking loser.
I was actually wondering when there would be another collection video. Thanks for the upload
I like all the insight I get in watching these videos. It helps me understand the market and what I'm getting myself into when I buy magic cards.
"Don't buy any cards. Ever. Wait for the reprints. Got it."
I love how Rudy confusing viewers with scripted trades. And also now he have a room size greenscreen.
darthmikda And a weird CGI human he was obviously doing the mo-cap for. The silent, floating camera isn't fooling anyone!
His booster box mannequin is being put to good use in this video.
Clearly just pulled up in front of home depo n picked this dude up n slapped him with a script
Since we're on the subject of reprints, do you think Liliana of the Veil will see one? Should I buy her now at her current $75'ish mark? I've been waiting for her to drop in value, and she's never budging.
3 years later, did she budge?
@@ReactiveTraction Yea, she budged, but only barely lol. She's still ~$50 at cheapest across every one of her reprints despite Modern being quiet and despite WotC reprinting her every year.
@@ReMeDy_TV Thanks for the update!
Interesting. Good to hear that the price stabilize over time but no appreciation due to reprints is kind of sad.
Also, fun to see all the reserved list haters in these old comments. 😂
Hey Rudy, I've never touched a Chinese fake so I couldn't give an accurate opinion, but I wanted to ask about the early event decks that came out. Core 2012 set had a deck called Vampire Onslaught. It was mono black but contained one Verdant Catacombs. When I was selling these sets in my comic shop, I distinctly remember that these sets were extra glossy. Can you still tell the difference between these, the originals, and the fakes? 2 Bloodghasts, 4 Dismembers, 2 Go for the Throats, was probably one of the better decks back in the day. Hope to hear your opinion!
I am trying to sell my collection too.. but got the same problem, every new reprint collection, the value goes down down.. and it seems, to me at least, that this is out of control. We got a two year reprint set - what was reasonable.. but now.. i dont know.. it feels that is one each semester lol
All you guys commenting saying Magic wasn’t meant to be collectible or tradable or investable or valuable and Wizards never meant for this to happen are about as blind as a bat. Wizards wants and needs their cards to have value so that people want to buy and continue to buy packs and cards. Don’t be dumb.
I know this comment is three years old however who is "Magic" Richard Garfield DID NOT intended the game to be this expensive,his intentions were to have a game that everyone would enjoy and play,why are people still Playing so much Yu-gi-oh,because the most op cards dont cost 300 dollars and booster boxes are literally 60 bucks...so don't tell me Magic was not meant to be cheap it was indeed made to be cheap and fun ,the corporation and Hasbro made it what it is inow
It’s 2020. Cards have been reprinted heavier than ever before in history. And I bet this binder collection has increased in value.
I am curious about what this collection is worth now as well.
i love how you got the perspective of the seller. good video.
Ever since the first modern masters set, I didn't buy any modern or non reserve list card if it wasn't reprinted if I didn't need it to play a deck. In the lulls between sets I bought reserve list cards like dual lands and legacy stuff and I haven't been disappointed. I have 2 modern decks, waiting for reprints to build Affinity, have 1 legacy deck, and am just about to fill out a full playset of duals.
I can't believe Rudy is using a body double with a greenskin to edit himself in.
14:10 The differences in tones at certain spots are very clear. At the center-bottom of the card for example
Hey Rudy, what do you think of the APAC and Guru lands as an investment? Do you think they will ever be reprinted?
People investing in magic shouldn't feel safe. People shouldn't be investing in magic, period.
Unless you know what you're doing.
Because like it or not, investors are the life blood of the game.
Where can I get that FORCE OF WILL poster? as digital wallpaper? Can someone give me a LINK? thanks
the one with the blond girl
shoot me a pm my dude. I got one from when I played.
At my lgs. Its been said. The owner owns 1,000 polluted deltas. Who knows?
So I've got an odd question about mtg prices. long story short a card store F**ked me for 163 aud. and its struggling with the idea of compensation. so far he has offered me a 2016 magic origins booster box, i'm finding prices that are all over the place? is that worth the 163 or would shall i ask for a refund?
Box is not worth.
thankyou, ended up with a refund and a coupon .-.
If he had those thoughtseize today he woulda made money
"Because its polluted delta" Haha that was amazing. Sexy collection and awsome video. Great job rudy keep em coming.
The cards I saw seemed more like $6,000. But those boxes by color were probably also worth about $5,000. Interesting how he left out the best card on the last page.
I recently sold out of magic entirely, and while I wasn't holding onto 20k worth of Modern cards, I did have a pretty penny. For me, it was less that I was investing, and more I just slowly got a lot of cards and the reprint sets just continued hitting the value over and over and over again. There's a point when you have to decide, is it worth hanging onto this when you know all the money is just going to milk away.
I came about 15 times to this video, and that was just to Rudy.
Your taco must be very red.
late but FTV20 was my very first special product at the time, JTMS was 300# reg, 800 foil, ftv brought those numbers down to 100$ reg and 300$ foil
"I got a shit ton of magics cards, $20,000! Interested" Awesome, yeah...what did you play? "Standard." _Awesome................,yeah...._
MAN its been a while since i watched a roodie video but i dont play magic lol. I still watched your channel for like 6 months straight.
SHOW US WHAT YOU GOTT!
I am an mtg player, and currently I pretty much only play limited because that is all I can afford to play. I would love to play Modern, and I am about half-way through building a deck, but one of the main cards I still need (Mox Opal) hasn't seen a reprint in a while and is still pretty expensive. From my personal point of view, I don't see how the interests of speculators and investors are not diametrically opposed to the interests of players like myself. I live in the UK, and haven't seen a LGS here selling singles in years, so I don't really see what supporting retailers has to do with anything. I get that it is preferable for cards to hold some value over time, but is it really necessary to have individual cards to be valued so highly? Could someone explain why they think this is the case? Particularly looking at the competition from games like Hearthstone, which are far cheaper to play, it seems to me like the opposite is more likely to be true.
IDK jack about magic but this Rudy guy makes this all look interesting haha
I think if modern got cheaper that’d be good as a whole. Like, if most tier 1 decks were around 500, barrier to entry goes down and player base grows.
Yep. Legacy/Vintage can be expensive because these are collectors formats. Modern should be affordable and definitely not more than 500$/deck. Standard not more than 200. Would just like to have all reserve list cards banned from EDH as these push up competetive commander deck prices to T1 modern decks/legacy decks
hy, i find an advert for 848 cards rare included, what do you think? if i buy it i can make some money?
please i want to know if is worthing. I will send a picture
I sold up last year, no where near as big a collection (about £2000). I lost quite a bit of money but thats due to me getting into modern around inistrad and out recently as the reprints tank all prices. Prob took a 30% - 50% hit across the board but i justifyed it as i played magic for 4 years for not too much money.
I feel for this guy because as you said at the start, people have this money memory and dont want to face the reality of what the mtg price trend is which (outside reserved) is down down down.
I was a long time player but missed out on the legacy lands at 25-40$. I owned a few fetches when they first came out but never invested the final bit of money to finish decks since i wasnt going to tournaments I figured I could just use proxies with friends and save the money.. huge mistake looking back on it. Then I sold out of legacy deciding prices were to high to finish my deck and got into modern in the early months. Ive lost all of my value in modern almost and a good amount of the legacy cards I sold have gone up a decent amount since then(6 cradles sold at 25$ each). I kept wastelands and karakas thinking I'd save some value in hopes of increase in price later and a single set tanked their value. The market has not been kind to me, it seems I'm always a day late or i buy early and price falls. I'm still playing but am now on the path of waiting for reprints before I buy because losing value constantly makes the game just as unplayable as trying to finish a deck that needs crazy priced cards due to supply.
Collection is a hobby a few people can afford nowadays, and it won't get any better.
So where is the rest of the $20,000?? Impressive collection, but there has to be more to it in order to even get close to $20K???
With Rudys box prises? 20k is nothing :P
I have a large collection of modern to current cards but i buy the occasional small collection and trade for cards for my own. I spend maybe 2k a year on sealed product but i almost never pre order singles because they drop like a rock when they roll out of standard so I'll trade for lands and planeswalkers from older sets as a small investment since i don't really put that much into the newer cards.
While I don't like the reserved list as a player, as it puts a high barrier of entry to playing older formats, I also don't like how much they reprint newer cards.
A simple policy in between, where they basically won't reprint cards within a specific period of time since it's last release, would be a good compromise. And definitely not a short enough time a card gets released multiple times in a year. I'd say a 2 year gap would be good enough for commons, and more time for higher rarities.
I am saving up for a starter deck. Even with cards being pumped into the system it does not seem to make the price for cards more affordable.
well, did you purchase it?
Why I've transitioned all my recent collection acquisitions to Reserved List and Sealed Product... Sucks but oh well I still build Master Sets for Fun!
This is why I keep one modern and one standard deck that are top tier and sell everything else to avoid dropping tons of cash into it
Thank you Rudy...These videos are really fucking interesting bro....this is a great series..
Also, Rudy. I love the longer videos. Thanks.
Have you ever bought a heavily damaged P9 card? What is their cash value?
More like 200k, nice collection friend
Well I'm here in 2020 to tell you that collection has lost around half of its value, NOT A SMART IDEA TO INVEST IN NON-RESERVE LIST CARDS
And I'm here in 2021 to tell you it's gone up lol
And I'm here in 2022, to says it's gone through the roof :D
Those expeditions tho 😂
ill buy those deltas for 1 sloppy taco each
Any update on this?
If wizards ever drops or phases out the reserved list, expect Rudy and the guy from vintage magic to jump out a window. More so the guy from vintage magic as he doesn't have a million revenue streams.
grabbity value will drop for sure, but wotc can't go back in time and print more boxes. Vintage cards will always be valuable just for the fact that they are just that vintage. Reprinting reserve list will only get more players involved in playing the older formats, and coulld help drive the price up as these new players to thhe format will want original vintage cards.
God I wish they'd drop the RL
Definitely agree. It's essentially a promise made back when it was needed, and it's purpose has been served. The game is stable, and the masters sets have proven the values would be fine and it would get more players in to more formats. It's win win. Anyone who is pro reserved list is only in favor of it for entirely selfish reasons. There aren't any reasons they could claim that weren't all about making or keeping money. Dbags.
Such are the woes of a completely unregulated free market
Card value is based on playability and demand, once legacy/vintage becomes a dead format due to less people playing them in paper all those reserved list cards will drop like a rock. If you need evidence look at the ce/IE cards that are actually rarer than ABU but worth shit because they are not tournament legal. In another decade wizards will push all those high end formats out with magic arena/mtg. Kind of like how they killed the reserved "loopholes" just before they released the masters set online that provided all the necessary cards to play vintage/legacy online.
Not your keys not yourcoins
Not your printer not your cards
I think the glare is way different from seeing on the camera. If it was just a photo of it there is no way you could tell real from fake.
I like people who treat cards like pieces of art.
I love Jeweled Lotus the OG art. Back in CMR 2020, I bought 30 JLs. Now 2024 and it's been banned in Commander, I still love my JLs.
Instead of reprinting en mass cards, WotC should start reprint then put more cards on the Reserve List. For example now with 3 printing, snapcaster mage should go to the reserve list. It will stabilize the price and keep the collector happy to invest in them. You can do the same with every card too powerful for standard (shocks, path to exile, bolts, etc...) even crap cards that see minor play Nissa, Vastwood seer, Kaya, ghost assassin, even the new crap Tezzeret, the schemer. With the amount of printing nowadays you could easily buy those cards and be sure they retain value. If they do it properly, you might see it this way:
1. after a the set rotates out of Standards we will announce 3M, 3R, 3U, 3C we will put on the RL from this set.
2. after the set is released the 3M, 3R, 3U, 3C we will put on the RL from this set.
3. after the second/ third reprint these cards will go to the RL. etc, etc....
You can do a lot of stuff if you hire competent people and do it correctly. Then collectors are happy, players wants to play to open more boxes, shops sells more stuff. I dont mind buying a card for 100$ if it will retain value. But i will never buy a card for 30$ if it will drop next month to 5$.
Sounds good to me. Speculators and investors can have all the cards few players play or want, and players get the cards that investors and speculators don't want to get in on. Everybody wins.
Agreed. Modern is becoming the best format for players, not investors.
Guys like him are going the way of the dinosaur for sure. There's no point in buying any modern/standard cards at all unless you intend to put them in a deck. Old school and reserved list is where it's at .
am I like the only one who likes autographed cards? maybe not for a perfect graded 10, but say 7, 8, 9s....
I hate them. You can keep all of my autographed/altered art cards for all I care.
Reprints of cards meant for frequent /casual or competitive play is good for the game. But reprinting old cards or the reserve list is definitely bad. It's a tricky subject.
You know what I don't get about people who say it's a players game and not a collector's / investors?
a) "C"cg
b) Por que no los dos? i.e. someone can't be both?
c) relating to b) I couldn't conscience spending money to draft/play standard unless I could convert some of that into long term value. So I haven't been. Thinking this isn't the result Wizards wants.
My son just started collecting which got me back into it as well. Ive never owned a piece of power nine and I really want to add one to our collection. Obviously unlimited versions are cheapest but my question is which of the power nine is the cheapest card to get me and my sons collection started? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a ton and keep up the awesome work on the videos.
The cheapest power 9 would be the timetwister but I think for a starter gift it would be cooler to get him a mox of his favorite color
Timetwister is playable in EDH, too... the only P9 that is. Plus the art is awesome and it's just a fun card to play.
My only piece of power is an unlimited twister. Used it for edh and eventually got it signed and altered.
Thinking about buying like 50-100 memory jars, think ita a good investment
Hey rudy question. Do u buy old dragon ball z cards.
There needs to be a balance between card value and availability.
You kill with value with too many reprints and collectors feel burned and are less likely to invest money in buying cards in the future.
what's the video in which Rudy explains why investors are necessary?
He went too hard on singles. I almost feel bad for him.
I'd like to think me liquidating standard cards into reserve list cards is better.
That and into my nostalgia cards. Usually original Ravnica, Mirrodin and Kamegawa
What was the outcome?
Since I buy TCG`s to PLAY and not collcet, I can`t give less of a fuck about this, in fact, that just means I don`t need to sell my house and a kidney to get the card I need to play either format. So yeah, keep rerpinting.
So the TLDW version is "You speculated heavily on this?" "Yeah" "And then the re-printed?" "Yeah and it tanked" "They're not worth a lot" "Absolutely" - Nice guy but I feel really bad for people like this. People who think holding onto MTG cards or amassing them to flip them like stocks have to realize it's not a limited source. If it's not on the reserved list and it's heavily played and/or prohibitively priced WOTC *WILL* and I would argue should re-print them. It's a game and a lot of cards have the value they do because of their playability compared to their supply.
This guy would make so much $ if he sold his collection individually himself. For that kind of cash it's worth putting the work in and getting top dollar for the whole thing.
Jace the mind sculptor will be reprinted in the next set at common rarity.
That's basically what konami does with yu-gi-oh on a monthly basis. I can understand why he shifted away from that game.
This is for the perfetct investigator of counterfeit cards that Creepy Rudy thinks he will find.
How can I FIND or even have a chance to find counterfeit cards in Sweden?
I have played the game and sold all my cards in january 1996 and the rest shortly after including 40 duals and all the moxes if it makeas a difference?
The market here in Sweden is so damn small that only two competitors sell the stuff on the reserve list. And most of the time they do not have anyting for sale. How can it be possible to check if a card is ok if you have nothing to compare with?
I have waited for a year for a Savannah (a revised one!) but I have never even seen one for sale so far in Sweden!
Legacy is going to...
Vintage is going to...
Unless FAKE CARDS got an extra printing!
After I stopped playing in january 1996 I have actually started playing again and when I sold my cards it was 100 SEK per dual land and now I have bought back 4 of 40. The price has been closer too 5000 SEK.
How it is possible for anyone in Sweden when one card is sold once and then to see if it is legit or not?
The two major shops in Sweden is: Svenska Magic and Dragonslair.
Are we safe here in Sweden just becuse the market is so small?
Getting a set of the moxes and 4 Juzam Jinns was tricky in 1995 for me but are we still so far away from the rest of the world here in Sweden?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Larsson is now known and we have two other sedes in the Hall of Fame.
I repeat my question: How can we possibly se a fake card here in Sweden when I have been looking for a Savannah over a year now?
My name is Åke
With there reprints i have stoped buying singles and playing and format. I'm not a investor! But when i spend $100s on a play set and two months later they are only worth $30. This makes trading to play diff decks and formats near impossible because you never know what will be reprinted next!
Q_Q "buaaah, new kids can have the toys I have!"
Remember when people thought there we too many reprints 3 years ago.
Great video as always. Love your content.
i wish theyd reprint these tacos and drive the price down.
Looking at the basic lands of real places now going 2-3 dollars 💸
Wizards should reprint absolute everything, the old cards prize would not suffer a lot... they keep being from "original sets" and people could play again Magic without making the typical poor and boring decks full of creatures, as the childish game it became.