Amazing how you grew from trying to upgrade your nissan leaf in a small garage into a viable battery upgrading company, one of the best in the EU. You motivated others and cap off to you guys. Determined and focused.
That battery pack is glorious! Glad to hear everyone is healthy in your shop and congratulations on the ever increasing number of conversions. Always look forward to your updates!
hi Claire, if you would like to have a campervan electrically powered, please let me know. Together with Muxsan Kazoo Campers intends to convert a couple of those e-NV200's into camper vans. Right after that the e-Sprinter might become an option. Hope to hear from you, best regards, Erwin
my 2014 ENV is only 24kw , but I regularly use her to do 400 miles in one trip.....a bit of charger planning , some patience and plenty of coffee , no worries at all ...love it....
Hi. I would like to know if possible where do you get that baterie modules and what the specs from one module. Thanks. I have been seen your videos and progress, i must say you doing well. Very good work.
Vector VCCU ftw. We're using them as well at work, only our batteries are slightly bigger (+350kWh :) ). Still sad we sold our leaf just before the conversion became available :(
Regarding your upgraded Leaf being okay-ish, how about the infotainment unit (center console unit). If I recall correctly, you once talked about planning to replace it. Is that still the plan?
Yes, but it's a lower priority project now - mainly because I ran into issues changing CAD programs. It's a lot of very finicky modeling to get a nicely fitting center console cover that also mounts correctly. Also after the mechanical bits, I still need to figure out cabling and some interface stuff for the A/C and rear view camera.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Oké cool to see that it's at least still in the works. For work I do CAD design on a daily basis (work with Autodesk Inventor), I can probably help if you want. Also I designed a 3D printed phone holder bracket which I mounted to the center console by removing the airbag warning light in the center console. I can share it if you're interested, some viewers might like it. Don't want to push anything. :) Keep up the good work
Awesome stuff!!! I am thinking about building an electric MC. So I'm guessing I can fit around 10kWh or some more before it gets to heavy. What sized CCS onboard charger is there to buy with small form factor? And what rate of charge could it be (how long is the rope, I know). Keep at it!!
You're not talking about CCS I think, I think you mean an AC (type 2) charger. Take a look at TC charger, we use them for three phase charging. With a small battery like that, you shouldn't charge at a fast charger, you're limited to approx. 15-20kW
I've been meaning to ask this last night.. I've been offered a full 80kw battery pack from a tesla. How compatible are the battery packs with the Nissan env?
The Nissan Leave 1 is a nice car with a battery problem. If you can replace the battery by yourself it's perfect. But if you will let replace from Nissan you have lost!
hey just wondering if you could install and connect custom solar roof panels to further extend the range?would that make sense for a big car like env200 instead of expensive batteries like an alternative option.
Amazing job, boys. Finally it has a CCS charging and probably better handling in corners. However, this weighs a lot and consumption goes a bit higher. I can't still believe the 500 km range. Maybe in 50 km/h.
Check his previous videos, he did a test at motorway speeds with this battery. Not sure that do you mean better handling in corners? It's a van, not a car. I have 3rd party alloys on mine and it's like sticked to tarmac. Consumption isn't much changed at cruise speeds on motorways. 133k mile, from new, e-NV200 owner here. Just to add, mine has SoH of 77%, and at 50km/h I still can get 120-130km of range, so do you maths over your negativity please, before commenting nonsense
We've now tried out the range on 2 weekend drives. First weekend we drove it 330km and had about 100 left. Second we started at ~80%, drove almost 300km, charged 6kWh and arrived with 25%. I'd say a realistic mixed-use range is 450km now. Just highways or high speed, it can get as low as 300km.
@@vladzis The Zoe I use with a 41kwh battery does about 22kwh/100km on the highway, I don't think it's overly negative to extrapolate that the overall consumption for the env would be a little higher. Small edit: a Peugeot partner electric I tried was higher, around 24kwh/100km on highway I guess flatter ground in the Netherlands with better weather and lower speed limits help compared to here, I'm glad to see that Powerelecyronics gets decent range and with ccs it'll be a crazy van.
We would too! But that's not allowed, plexiglass is mighty flammable and reacts with battery solvents. We're going to put a sticker on or something like that.
does the chademo charging still work? and does it charge at the same power? or can you make it charge more range per hour because of the upgraded battery?
Happy to hear you Guys are doing good in this Coronavirus time!!! For what we know you are the best in Nissan Extended Range Worldwide. Please let us know when you are opening an office or some kind of partnership in the United States, Central Florida. There's a group of us looking for a solution. Best regards
Man I wish I could get one of these vans. With a large usable battery pack. And add a CC's charger for fast charging. And for long trips and the extra room for 8 passengers.
There is a big queue of us waiting. For me the env200 is a little bit too small. The e-VITO size is about right, or a master, but then you need a lot of battery and a fuck-off charger to fill it up in s sensible period of time, which all costs money. And SFAIK no-one is doing the reverse-enginering for those platforms that Muxsan has done for the Nissan stuff. I could, given enough time, and it might come to that one day, but I have a house to fix first so I'm waiting to see if anyone actually makes something commercial. Rivian platform, buzz, transporter/vito battery upgrades.
I’m still interested in upgrading our C-Zero batteries -> will result in swapping the battery pack with a larger battery capacity due to the lack of trunk space.
Probably something we'll be trying out this year still. The Outlander, Partner, i-Miev, C-Zero, iOn, e-Berlingo, they all share a bunch of drivetrain components. I don't think we will have an actual product to sell, but definitely one or two prototypes driving around
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Would be interested to see if you can offer an alternative for the LEV50's which are currently installed in the i-Miev. If you need the car for a day research please let me know.
Yep, working on that very soon (tm), the only reason they don't exist yet is because of our big milling machine being busy and currently broken down. I have models for rear skirts already.
Nope, as far as they're concerned it's just cargo. We've had confirmation from two dozen customers so far that nobody even saw the modifications on the APK.
@@Simon-dm8zv First off, I should note that there ARE rules to be followed (quite stringent ones as well, e.g. UN/ECE 100 and IEC 6469-1), which all our products are designed for. And yes, we're going to install our first under-vehicle battery (on an e-NV200 EVALIA) on July 9th, so around then we'll be evaluating whether we're going to make that a standard product and of course making a video about it.
PowerElectronicsBlog An under-vehicle extension battery for the e-NV200 sounds like a perfect product. Looking forward to your progress on this. Great work 👍🏻
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Want to see this! what size extension you are planning under-vehicle? i have 40kw evalia and something about 20-24kw extra would make this car almost perfect!
Why not put the battery pack to the driver divider wall and build a wall-like brick model on top and sides of each other? That would sound more like space saving for me and might not cause too much weight imbalance.
If you do this for Toyota Priuses and Chevy Volts as if you did with Nissan Leafs, I am sure Toyota, Nissan and GM love to have them for their future electric cars.
Would a JDM Env200 not be better for you as it already has fast charging? Also why aren't van manufacturers coming out with bigger battery pack? I mean 80km on a brand new E-veto..... please
It's got fast charging, it's just that it's 50kW chademo (so in practice: 38-44kW). That's very slow if your battery is around 80kWh, so it needs faster charging. Chademo isn't getting upgraded much in the near future, so we're adding 175kW CCS.
Water cooling isn't the problem, it's the physical size of Tesla batteries. Also... Tesla batteries aren't actually that good.... (I'm sure I'll get into the technicals of that someday)
This might interest you! Tesla Hacker Highlights Major Issue (This guy is modding a large van with an entire Tesla Model 3 Guts!) ua-cam.com/video/o-7b1waoj9Q/v-deo.html Also Norway might have some cheap salvage Tesla parts maybe?
Two hours to charge ,that's if the charging station is free,5 mins to fill my car ,to allow for some of my journeys add at least 2 hours to my journey time.
Ray Chambers it’s not for everyone. But if you charge at home or work, for commutes there is no “fill up” time so those more frequent fuel stops at 5 minutes a piece start to add up.
@@ALMX5DP you are right it's not for everyone but filling up petrol or diesel really doesn't take that much time in total. Once a week at 5mins a pop is still only 4.3hours in a year. A 30mins fast charge once a month is already 6 hours...
@@TsLeng absolutely, but just shows that as a commuter vehicle with occasional fast charging trips, it can still be somewhat competitive in terms of total time spent per year in "filling up."
Amazing how you grew from trying to upgrade your nissan leaf in a small garage into a viable battery upgrading company, one of the best in the EU. You motivated others and cap off to you guys. Determined and focused.
That battery pack is glorious! Glad to hear everyone is healthy in your shop and congratulations on the ever increasing number of conversions. Always look forward to your updates!
Wow, convert a Sprinter or Crater to electric with this and I may finally have compelling Camper Van basis. Keep up the great work
hi Claire, if you would like to have a campervan electrically powered, please let me know. Together with Muxsan Kazoo Campers intends to convert a couple of those e-NV200's into camper vans. Right after that the e-Sprinter might become an option. Hope to hear from you, best regards, Erwin
@@erwinvandoeselaar7352 Interrested!
Opel Vivaro-e announced a few days ago has a 75 kWh battery. So finally a decent range in a van
Pluspunten voor de Alleweder!
Wow. You’re literally one of the coolest companies on the planet.
my 2014 ENV is only 24kw , but I regularly use her to do 400 miles in one trip.....a bit of charger planning , some patience and plenty of coffee , no worries at all ...love it....
Wtf
You have a lot of patience
Do you have any cooling problems with the added batteries?
Would you consider the 35kwh e-golf as an extender project?
And amazing car only let down by us average miles
Hi. I would like to know if possible where do you get that baterie modules and what the specs from one module. Thanks. I have been seen your videos and progress, i must say you doing well. Very good work.
What is the weight of the battery pack you added? As they have a load capacity of 658kg and that’s including the driver / passenger
Put in an extra layer of batteries, we want 1000KM range :)
That is nice to have a 175kw charger to that Nissan. That is cool.
I would love to have that Nissan Leaf. I hope you guys continue to continue to do good. I love the corona the Sun.
Great work.
Awesome man 👍
great job on the van ,... i really like it.
where do you get your batteries from, and how much do they cost?
We are waiting for Muxsan US branch
could you tell me where you bought the side bars on the nv200 and how much they cost please?
Vector VCCU ftw. We're using them as well at work, only our batteries are slightly bigger (+350kWh :) ). Still sad we sold our leaf just before the conversion became available :(
Regarding your upgraded Leaf being okay-ish, how about the infotainment unit (center console unit). If I recall correctly, you once talked about planning to replace it. Is that still the plan?
Yes, but it's a lower priority project now - mainly because I ran into issues changing CAD programs. It's a lot of very finicky modeling to get a nicely fitting center console cover that also mounts correctly. Also after the mechanical bits, I still need to figure out cabling and some interface stuff for the A/C and rear view camera.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Oké cool to see that it's at least still in the works. For work I do CAD design on a daily basis (work with Autodesk Inventor), I can probably help if you want. Also I designed a 3D printed phone holder bracket which I mounted to the center console by removing the airbag warning light in the center console. I can share it if you're interested, some viewers might like it. Don't want to push anything. :) Keep up the good work
That van is going to go through tyres like crazy
I upgraded the tyres on my heavy campervan (3500kg) and they will do over 30,000 miles !
Often wonder about house battery’s or two in a van ?? Stand then up ??
Awesome stuff!!! I am thinking about building an electric MC. So I'm guessing I can fit around 10kWh or some more before it gets to heavy. What sized CCS onboard charger is there to buy with small form factor? And what rate of charge could it be (how long is the rope, I know). Keep at it!!
You're not talking about CCS I think, I think you mean an AC (type 2) charger. Take a look at TC charger, we use them for three phase charging. With a small battery like that, you shouldn't charge at a fast charger, you're limited to approx. 15-20kW
I've been meaning to ask this last night.. I've been offered a full 80kw battery pack from a tesla. How compatible are the battery packs with the Nissan env?
What do you do with the Outlanders?
175kW CCS??...I'll be remortgaging my house by the time I see you guys in July 😂
Is that an Alleweder on the workbench?
The Nissan Leave 1 is a nice car with a battery problem. If you can replace the battery by yourself it's perfect. But if you will let replace from Nissan you have lost!
Great idea!
hi, is it possible to extend the range for Toyota Prius?
Muxsan should bring some cooling-parts for the Leaf 2. I think there is a huge market for it.
Is the a Alleweder-Velomobile?
hey just wondering if you could install and connect custom solar roof panels to further extend the range?would that make sense for a big car like env200 instead of expensive batteries like an alternative option.
for example when parked in a sunny spot during camping you would charge a good bit off grid.
But how much cargo weight can you have now? Seems like the batteries would eat it all up
beastly van! I kinda want one :D
Is this safe? How much is to convert?
What is the weight of that monster battery?
Amazing job, boys. Finally it has a CCS charging and probably better handling in corners.
However, this weighs a lot and consumption goes a bit higher.
I can't still believe the 500 km range. Maybe in 50 km/h.
75kwh won't bring more than 300km highway, but that's already quite excellent
Check his previous videos, he did a test at motorway speeds with this battery.
Not sure that do you mean better handling in corners? It's a van, not a car. I have 3rd party alloys on mine and it's like sticked to tarmac.
Consumption isn't much changed at cruise speeds on motorways.
133k mile, from new, e-NV200 owner here.
Just to add, mine has SoH of 77%, and at 50km/h I still can get 120-130km of range, so do you maths over your negativity please, before commenting nonsense
We've now tried out the range on 2 weekend drives. First weekend we drove it 330km and had about 100 left. Second we started at ~80%, drove almost 300km, charged 6kWh and arrived with 25%.
I'd say a realistic mixed-use range is 450km now. Just highways or high speed, it can get as low as 300km.
@@vladzis The Zoe I use with a 41kwh battery does about 22kwh/100km on the highway, I don't think it's overly negative to extrapolate that the overall consumption for the env would be a little higher. Small edit: a Peugeot partner electric I tried was higher, around 24kwh/100km on highway
I guess flatter ground in the Netherlands with better weather and lower speed limits help compared to here, I'm glad to see that Powerelecyronics gets decent range and with ccs it'll be a crazy van.
Does is 40 kw direct swap on 24 kw ? Env200
Adding my 2c to the 2016 e-Golf upgrade requests!
Great payload
Awesome!
It'd be cool to replace that wooden cover/floor with a thick transparent Plexiglass panel.
We would too! But that's not allowed, plexiglass is mighty flammable and reacts with battery solvents. We're going to put a sticker on or something like that.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Ahh that's a shame. Sticker it is I suppose :p
does the chademo charging still work? and does it charge at the same power? or can you make it charge more range per hour because of the upgraded battery?
oh okay you talked about it on the video :)
Happy to hear you Guys are doing good in this Coronavirus time!!!
For what we know you are the best in Nissan Extended Range Worldwide.
Please let us know when you are opening an office or some kind of partnership in the United States, Central Florida.
There's a group of us looking for a solution.
Best regards
I thought e-NV200 is not being sold in USA?
@@vladzis it's available in/from canada (bit rare though)
Man I wish I could get one of these vans. With a large usable battery pack. And add a CC's charger for fast charging. And for long trips and the extra room for 8 passengers.
There is a big queue of us waiting. For me the env200 is a little bit too small. The e-VITO size is about right, or a master, but then you need a lot of battery and a fuck-off charger to fill it up in s sensible period of time, which all costs money. And SFAIK no-one is doing the reverse-enginering for those platforms that Muxsan has done for the Nissan stuff. I could, given enough time, and it might come to that one day, but I have a house to fix first so I'm waiting to see if anyone actually makes something commercial. Rivian platform, buzz, transporter/vito battery upgrades.
I’m still interested in upgrading our C-Zero batteries -> will result in swapping the battery pack with a larger battery capacity due to the lack of trunk space.
Probably something we'll be trying out this year still. The Outlander, Partner, i-Miev, C-Zero, iOn, e-Berlingo, they all share a bunch of drivetrain components. I don't think we will have an actual product to sell, but definitely one or two prototypes driving around
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Would be interested to see if you can offer an alternative for the LEV50's which are currently installed in the i-Miev. If you need the car for a day research please let me know.
@@Arjanvde I can relate to your struggle. Poor little mitsu
@@PowerElectronicsBlog some Australians are hypothesising that the Samsung 94 Ah cells will fit
How about some aero modding to extend the range?
Full moon rims, smallar rear view mirrors, slightly lower car, flat under belly etc
Yep, working on that very soon (tm), the only reason they don't exist yet is because of our big milling machine being busy and currently broken down. I have models for rear skirts already.
Where did you get the 40KWh battery and what year is it? I’m thinking about buying a 2011 for $3000 add new battery and DC quick charger
Charlie, 40KWh will cost you around 5-7k$
... except in Australia where it will be 80% of whatever a new Leaf sells for. I'm not being sarcastic, its actually what happened
Do you have that NV-200 for sale? I’m interested in buying 5 of them from you.
Same here in the US
I need 2 of them passenger version used and imported here in the states
Ughly cough there at the beginning Emile!
Please take care.
Very interested in getting my LifeSpyPro to show the correct kWh number too!
Subscribe to Leaf Spy Pro beta play.google.com/apps/testing/com.Turbo3.Leaf_Spy_Pro
you need version 0.45.131
dream van!
Does the RDW care about adding aftermarket batteries in the cargo space or even underneath the vehicle? I wonder what they say at the annual APK.
Nope, as far as they're concerned it's just cargo. We've had confirmation from two dozen customers so far that nobody even saw the modifications on the APK.
PowerElectronicsBlog Thanks for your reply. That’s great news. Do you think adding additional batteries underneath a vehicle would be allowed as well?
@@Simon-dm8zv First off, I should note that there ARE rules to be followed (quite stringent ones as well, e.g. UN/ECE 100 and IEC 6469-1), which all our products are designed for. And yes, we're going to install our first under-vehicle battery (on an e-NV200 EVALIA) on July 9th, so around then we'll be evaluating whether we're going to make that a standard product and of course making a video about it.
PowerElectronicsBlog An under-vehicle extension battery for the e-NV200 sounds like a perfect product. Looking forward to your progress on this. Great work 👍🏻
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Want to see this! what size extension you are planning under-vehicle? i have 40kw evalia and something about 20-24kw extra would make this car almost perfect!
Awesome
Illegal tow bar? Why what's the law in the Netherlands for tow bars. Absolutely brilliant van.
How much is that CCS controler?
And what is controller part number?
EXACTLY. So many words on it, but the informational content got lost. Great can though.
Really cool velomobiel, an Alleweder?
Original (Flevobike) Alleweder, yes!
Why not put the battery pack to the driver divider wall and build a wall-like brick model on top and sides of each other? That would sound more like space saving for me and might not cause too much weight imbalance.
If you do this for Toyota Priuses and Chevy Volts as if you did with Nissan Leafs, I am sure Toyota, Nissan and GM love to have them for their future electric cars.
just a question, is it possible to use leaf spy on other electric cars ? Lets say a twizzy
Frank Bonheure no, but you can use OVMS for that.
Wat kost dat beetje extra voor de e-NV200?
muxsan.com
You didn't mention the price of the CCS controller...🤔
This controller... it's more than a large extender battery. We'll be developing our own sub-€1000 solution.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog That is a rediculous price as you menioned in the video.
I'll be looking forward to your solution. 🖒🖒🖒
How did you integrate the bigger battery capacity into the factory display for range? Did you hack the Mitsubishi??
@@TestTest-eb8jr Developing and testing a reliable CCS Controler is quite an undertaking. There is a reason the Vector one is so pricy
Hey I am on AMERICA and I want to do something like that to a LEAF is there a way to do it ??
Ditto
we're working on kits. For real this time.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog cool 😊
Bruh I need a a new battery upgrade for my 2016 Volkswagen egolf
Cover it in solar panels!
Would a JDM Env200 not be better for you as it already has fast charging?
Also why aren't van manufacturers coming out with bigger battery pack? I mean 80km on a brand new E-veto..... please
It's got fast charging, it's just that it's 50kW chademo (so in practice: 38-44kW). That's very slow if your battery is around 80kWh, so it needs faster charging. Chademo isn't getting upgraded much in the near future, so we're adding 175kW CCS.
does anyone do this in europe, preferably scandinavia? It is my dream
I'll take 7! Shit, im in the us.. .Why cant I get a damn electric van. That thing with a back row would be perfect for road trips
6:26 what you have one of those :O where can you buy those :O ???
now i just need to learn how to install those :D
Huh? How come is the tow bar illegal?
The tow bar itself isn't, but the Leaf isn't allowed to tow a load (it's just for bike racks).
You guys should build a camper!!!
Thanks small one subject matter youtube is more easy to digest
Imagine a triple stacked baterry at 200 kwh
3 phase charging video when
Around May 5th (I'm filming a 3-phase install then)
Need bigger tires, reduce rolling resistance
Can you be positive about the great work you are doing, not sound negative
Have you ever thought about equipping a Nissan Leaf with Tesla batteries?
you need to water cool that, Nissan battery's are air cooled
I doubt a Tesla battery would need ANY kind of cooling in a Leaf.
@@Damicske Tesla batteries aren't water cooled
@@vladzis they do.
Water cooling isn't the problem, it's the physical size of Tesla batteries. Also... Tesla batteries aren't actually that good.... (I'm sure I'll get into the technicals of that someday)
This might interest you! Tesla Hacker Highlights Major Issue (This guy is modding a large van with an entire Tesla Model 3 Guts!) ua-cam.com/video/o-7b1waoj9Q/v-deo.html Also Norway might have some cheap salvage Tesla parts maybe?
Change the software.
The worst part of the e-nv200. You can't get it in the states.
Two hours to charge ,that's if the charging station is free,5 mins to fill my car ,to allow for some of my journeys add at least 2 hours to my journey time.
Ray Chambers it’s not for everyone. But if you charge at home or work, for commutes there is no “fill up” time so those more frequent fuel stops at 5 minutes a piece start to add up.
@@ALMX5DP you are right it's not for everyone but filling up petrol or diesel really doesn't take that much time in total. Once a week at 5mins a pop is still only 4.3hours in a year. A 30mins fast charge once a month is already 6 hours...
@@TsLeng absolutely, but just shows that as a commuter vehicle with occasional fast charging trips, it can still be somewhat competitive in terms of total time spent per year in "filling up."