Massacre of German Waffen SS Soldiers by their Americans Captors - Chenogne Massacre - WW2
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- On 17 December 1944, the 1st SS Panzer Division, commanded by Joachim Peiper, was heading west from Büllingen, Belgium. This movement was part of the general German advance during the Battle of the Bulge. At the same time, a US convoy of thirty vehicles and nearly 140 men of the 285th Field Artillery Observation Battalion was heading south from Hürtgen Forest toward Ligneuville. The two forces converged just before noon at the crossroads hamlet of Baugnez, 4 kilometers south of Malmedy. SS soldiers immediately began firing upon the US troops, who panicked. Those who did not escape, including medical personnel, quickly surrendered. After being searched and relieved of their personal possessions, the US soldiers were lined up in eight rows in a field at the crossroads. Survivors of the atrocity recalled that a group of approximately 120 U.S. prisoners of war stood in the farmer's field when the SS soldiers fired machine guns at the grouped Americans.
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The 12th SS did the same to 156 Canadian soldiers in several areas of France. When word got out the Canadians took no more prisoners again.
i've read about this massacre on These Canadian soldiers ,one SS officer was reported to be laughing as they sent the Canadian body's floating down the river!
Back when Canada still had men.
Neither did the Waffen SS for that matter.
The 12th Panzer Division was the Hitler Youth Division. That makes it all the more horrific that young boys would do this type of thing.
@@jimmycapps7263 The Canadians were notorious for killing German POW, partically Waffen - SS soldiers. Reactions could be expected. Killing POWs is ALWAYS a war crime, doesn't who committed those.
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My dad was in Burma and there was a private order given out within the troops NO PRISONERS.
Well the Japanese were a different kettle of fish
Japan fought a different a very different war with no regard to any life. And no surrender!
@@jjbrbbergwell the Germans did the same ...... except for themselves
basically, these troops were "Einsatztruppen".
there is of course a difference between taking no prisoners and killing prisoners
Joachim Peiper was sentenced to death but excaped the rope with a reduced sentence. He later worked for Volkeswagen. He was assinated in France in 1976.
Joachim Peiper was a German Soldier, obeying orders from his Superiors. If he had chosen to disobey those orders, he would have been shot by his own military. Allied Troops did the exact same thing. A few were even executed for Desertion. Very sad.
@@MrShenyang1234No, he was SS. You don't just get drafted into SS, you undergo extensive training, filtering of too unfit/not tough enough people, and multiple tests to see if you'd faithfully carry out orders. You literally have to prove over and over that you're Super into being a Nazi, so they don't risk desertion.
Wehrmacht is what you're talking about, but the myth of "clean Wehrmacht" only circulated once their superiors were captured... Hmm... 😂
@@tasteofyourmedicineYes. That is the difference.
@@tasteofyourmedicine By war's end the majority of the SS wasn't even German.
@@MrShenyang1234 Sorry that's naive these people were chosen because of their willingness to commit horrible atrocities. You could believe that some in the regular army were brutalised but others were that type of people who were just plain cruel
Theres plenty of blame for everyone of humanity to go around,ultimately.We need to be reminded of this every so often as your presentation so ablely provides.Great work.
As Winston Churchill allegedly said, “History is written by the Victors.”
Are you pro-Nazi then?
I shed tears for all civilians, Holocaust victims, Allied soldiers & even the animals from WWII. I feel zero sympathy for Nazi’s. Americans weren’t perfect but tell me who involved was? As the stellar World History narrator said: “there were no tears for Nazi murderers”.
Same
@HedgeWalker What pearls of wisdom do you wish to share?
@@KohalaLovernone
@HedgeWalker Never heard back from you. Are you a troll?
@@KohalaLover100% troll
The sad part is that Americans treated German prisoners like kings while black soldiers were treated like dogs. German prisoners had full rights and were able to enter theaters, bathrooms, hospitals...... Black American soldiers who fought in WW2 were denied all rights and banished from theaters, bathrooms, hospitals..... Even German soldiers criticized such discrimination.
Because the Constitution was written by Caucasians, for Caucasians. All other races are inferior. Sounds familiar ?
That's a different discussion for another video, but agreed!
Woodrow Wilson re-segregated Federal Employees. Harry Truman de-segregated the military in 1948. It was dumb to lose all of that talent. Gotta give black Americans credit for serving their country though. Most of them did it gladly. They believed in the US in spite of the progress yet to be made.
Bingo! Just like Americans treated japs humanely then chinese. Smh
Blame the cause: Democrats.
The saddest thing is the world is slowing getting closer to another Radical Regime not further away.. despite history's lessons.
@chrisBaxter-ly8orThe one taking over college campuses with acts of violence while supporting terrorists and at the same time denying that their side raped, beheaded or kidnapped anyone
I can only imagine you are speaking of the Biden Administration with their willing fellow travelers...the RINOs.
Trump wants to be like Hitler. History will not be kind..
@@johncasamassa462sure. Neither China, nor NK, no not even Putin. None of them are bad. It's only the oh so evil US. And God forbid I start talking about ISIS or anything.
@@johncasamassa462Trump was the one who hired a secret police to roam around in unmarked car and kidnap people who were peacefully protesting (which is a constitutional right). Only they just grabbed any random people. He also made it legal for mercenaries to brutalize Native Americans who were peacefully protesting the oil pipeline going through their water supply on their lands. He also incited a riot at the white house when he lost that got people killed including an officer. There is to much more to list but if anyone is plotting to make America North Korea again…(for the 1st time). It’s him. Biden is just an incompetent, brain dead self opportunist.
My Grandfather was part of Pattons 3rd Army in the 2nd Armored Division and He told me how the Americans felt after hearing of the Melmedy Massacre and it wasn’t pretty..
I bet the 2nd Armored Division was never told that Americans were committing massacres of surrendered German soldiers first!
In the early '80's I was working in Germany and had a German girlfriend. One weekend, her father came to visit us. I casually mentioned that I was recently in Washington State to visit my sister. My girlfriend's father then stated that he too had been to Washington State. I asked, "Oh, were you on vacation?" His face immediately turned bright red, and he slammed his fist on the table while screaming - "No! I was a prisoner of war!" I looked at my girlfriend standing behind him and she signaled for me to drop the subject. I did ask what he did as a POW, and he said that he picked apples. I was very tempted to say, "Well pal, that was a whole lot better than working in a dank coal mine in Siberia as a Russian POW, wasn't it?", but I kept my mouth shut. There was no doubt in my mind that he was STILL a Nazi, and probably served in the SS. I wondered about how many Americans that he had killed, before he was captured. I thank God that he didn't become my father-in-law.
Third Utah wife ,
You should have said HITLER IS KAPUT!!!!
@@454FatJack Mormonism before 1978 where racist i wonder why.? find the truth and you will find the answer.
Imagine his relief you weren't his son in law. Ever wonder just why the Germans fought so hard for us? Take a good look around at the ongoing shit show for your answer.
Black people were treated like garbage in America long before the civil rights movements began. You should get that big fat head out of the sand.
The Mormon church allowed slavery into that Mormon territory in 1852.
So glad i am NOT American.
This is an event I never knew about. Thanks for making this video.
Thank you
A Distorted VILE History Video You Hear
My father was 30th Division which moved into a line between Stavelot and Malmedy on the day after the massacre, trapping the 1st SS armor in a pocket with the Ambleve river at their back. They soon knew about the massacre and stopped taking SS prisoners as they reduced the 1st SS, but I came across an interesting entry in the 30th Medical Department Diary a couple of weeks later. As they pushed the Germans back towards St. Vith a Sgt. Rice makes an entry in the journal that Wehrmacht prisoners are showing up in the rear with frost bitten feet because the GIs are taking their boots away before marching them to the rear. He says they are doing this to "make them sorry they are Germans." The massacre at Baugnez crossroads was repaid to German prisoners for the rest of the war. War is hell, as they say.
My dad was a combat medic with the 79th infantry division . He said every ex German soldier he met after the war in this country said that they never fought against Americans, just Russian! Of course he didn't believe them!
Steven Ambrose in his book "Citizen Soldiers" Tells a slightly different story of the boots. He said in his book that if US Paratroopers found Germans wearing paratrooper boots it was assumed they had killed a paratrooper and taken their boots. The Americans made them take the boots off and walk in knee deep snow until their feet were frozen and had to be amputated. I guess you didn't mess with the paratroopers.
the Americans murdered over 80 Wehrmacht prisoners at Chenogne - look it up
Both sides did the boot thing there
@@BillCunningham-so5bt Your dads probably an idiot then, because most Germans definitely served on the eastern front.
Atrocities were commited on all sides. War brings out the worst in some people.
Remember the Death Camps. Western Allies had none.
Good on you, mate. Whitewashing the Nazis is now exploding amongst Extreme Right wing commentators, led by people like Carlson. Interestingly they are also rabid supporters of Putin and his Third World terrorist state, which is, would you believe, deNaazifying Ukraine..
Your a fool.
My Grandpa (7th Armored Div) said they took NO SS prisoners during St. Vith (Battle of the Bulge).
so they murdered PoWs
@@offlimits4635 Did you watch the movie "Fury"? Kinda like that.
@@3idraven714 it was wrong
@@offlimits4635 It was war. Until You are there you can’t make judgements, but I do agree with you, and thanks for your service if you have. 👍
@@offlimits4635 cry about it lol
What goes around comes around...
My father is a WW2 vet. He stated that all SS had tattoos identifying them as SS on their arm. They would search every German soldier looking for the tattoo. Some SS would try to burn the tattoo from their arm, which automatically gave them away. The SS were given a special kind of treatment. Not the kind anyone would want.
The SS were tattooed with SS runes and their blood type under their arm. They had priority in getting medical attention. That backfired when they became POWs.
Just to clue you in.
The tattoo was just the individual soldiers blood type for medical purposes. Nothing else. It was nothing political.
@@Rob.S859 It showed they were SS nazis.
There was massacres of allied troops by the Germans all over France, Netherlands, Belgium and in Germany itself and vice versa. There is an account by Studs Terkel’s book “The Good War.” I was at the Malmedy field and like all of the other locations of fierce battles, today it is as innocuous as you can imagine.
the Americans murdered thousands of German prisoners all over Northern Europe
To paraphrase R.E. Lee:
“It is good that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond if it”.
If you truly want to “end all war” - you don’t- then make it as horrible as you possibly can.
Your attempts at making it conform to politeness are misguided.
All you do is to bring about its sooner return.
After watching the Army of the Potomac make repeated frontal assaults against his dug-in forces, taking horrible losses at the Battle of Fredericksburg.
He wasn't referring to the murder of POWs. Lee wouldn't even tolerate his troops stealing from Union POWs. He personally intervened in at least one incident.
In the second world war book “1944” it is written that the Canadians probably carried out the first of the post D Day massacres actually on D Day. A medic wanting some souvenirs saw a squad of Canadians taking some prisoners into the dunes behind the beach and before he could catch up to them he heard some gunfire and when he got into the dunes all he found were the prisoners dead.
I cannot defend the SS, but the Canadians also had a long history of war crimes by the time of D-Day. By the time the Canadians landed in Normandy they were already known to the Germans for having murdered surrendering Germans in Italy. Further it was known that at Dieppe in 1942 Canadians shot German POWs who they had tied up at the Casino. Further, the POWs were tied up in such a way as to constitute a war crime in itself as the POW would eventually be unable to remain in a position where he would not strangle himself. The Germans also knew that if the Canadians did not kill them, they had a bad reputation for physically abusing POWs. At the end of WWII there is film footage of a Canadian sucker punching and kicking surrendering Germans who had been fighting the Soviets.
@@LMyrski I doubt that in that particular war, as in other wars, there would be few if any countries involved who did everything according to some book of rules of engagement. Not to justify atrocity but I do not accept that civil law has a place in martial situations.
@@LMyrski This information is important.
I was in uniform for 8 years (5 years in war zones) and KNOW FOR A FACT that my side was as bad as the
"so-called"" enemies!!
We were not lilly-white and atrocities were done often..
The British...French...American troops(US/Canadian)..Japanese...Russian...Chinese ( Communist/Nationalist)..and of course German
ALL DID THERE FAIR SHARE OF ATROCITIES...and that goes for each and every conflict since WW1 or WW2...including revolutions...putsches.. insurrections...police and peace-keeping..!
NOBODY IN UNIFORM OR NOT IS IMMUNE TO BECOMING A MURDERER..
no matter race...creed...religion...ethnicity. .citizenship or sex...!
Can anyone answer what the 285th Field Artillery Observation Battalion's job was? I was in the Field Artillery back in 1971-1973 and we had Forward Observer teams that were sent out attached to Infantry and Armor units but they consisted of usually an officer, a sergeant and an enlisted man as an RTO (Radio Telephone Operator), I went out as an RTO myself a few times when they needed a replacement. That said, why did they need an entire battalion of observers? This has always puzzled me.
They were having a convention and were out for a bit of sightseeing.
They weren't all observers. The battalion would have included maintenance, medical, communications, cooks, security etc. They were designed to be as self sufficient as possible. Remember that old adage. For every one guy on the line, there are 10 behind it supporting him one way or another.
Are you kidding me? We’re talking about a people that murdered 11 million human beings. I’m suppose to feel sorry, HELL NO! 🇺🇸
27 million Russians ALONE . NOT 11 million .
Do I have sympathy for the SS soldiers, no, there were still many who weren't punished for their crimes that got to live after the war
This title of this video is like saying…. Unbelievable Terrible massacre of KKK members!!!
Pa….Lease! Who cares! The hell with them. Most of them lived long lives in German Austria and Ukraine etc living to old age talking with friends about the “ good old days”.
You're correct No one feels sorry for what the Soviet Jewish controlled Bolsheviks did. Causing the death of millions of Ukrainians and thousands of people from the Baltic countries are horrible deeds.
My Uncle was in Patton's Army he would talk about it whenever asked. He hated the SS. Even more than the regular Soldiers. He said they made every attempt to kill as many SS as possible.
Peiper and his unit carried out similar atrocities in Russia, he must have had something of a death wish, moving to France.
When your enemy has Black Flag policy, they can't very well complain when they receive no quarter in return.
Before Malmedy, the US brutality executed German and Italian soldiers! First at Biscari, Italy in 1943 when the US 45th Infantry executed 75 surrendered Italian and German soldiers! During D-Day 64 surrendered German soldiers were shot and killed! Than after D-Day the US 82nd Airborne executed 30 surrendered regular German Army prisoners at Audouville-la-Hubert, France! Prosecuting Germans for doing the same thing Americans were doing first was highly hypocritically!
@@benadam7753 Just pop your proof on here.
One war crime does not excuse another. It is not like each soldier made that decision. Try getting some morals. Also, the Germans took 23,000 Americans captive, so no, they did not have a black flag policy.
@@LMyrski So, just because 23,000 U.S. prisoners were okay. We should forget those that were massacred? Not going to happen buddy.
Agreed. They like to cry about Soviet atrocities against Germans when they did worse to Soviets. You can't play the victim when you start to lose.
Quid pro quo. No sympathy at all for the animals in the SS.
Really? Does quid pro quo make you morally right, or does revenge nothing but justify more violence and rancour until the end of time?
@@simonacinghita7719 I mean the Nazis were comprehensively beaten within a year of this incident and haven't piped up since, so..
@@simonacinghita7719 If my comrades had been murdered by the SS, I would have no qualms in seeking retribution. Despite their many well documented brutal war crimes most escaped any repercussions.
@@BigArnieNumeroUno You mean the SS, of course 🙂SAS was notoriously British!
@@simonacinghita7719 Edited accordingly - no comment re SAS
This is the closest we will ever get to a time machine these old films
War can drive even decent Men into doing things they would never do in civilian life. Least we judge them until we've walked in their shoes and seen what they have seen.
yep
That's why people should not start wars. It might awakened their inner Schutzstaffel. Patriotism is never far from War Crimes.
Young men killing young men they don’t know on behalf of old men who do know each other.
White people killing White people seem they don't like each other eventough their nationality and language were not a same.but overall they were White people instead🤣🤣🤣
You're incorrect. It's poor men dying on behalf of rich men. Why are you trying to deflect from reality?
@@johnnymatheis1018 spot on
Not the ideal response, perhaps, but understandable at that moment, and undoubtedly 99% of these Waffen SS murdered unarmed enemy soldiers, partisans & civilians on both fronts at some point. And we see how ineffective the war crimes "trials" ended up being. The nazi Peiper of all people was released after 12 years and had to be finally dealt with extra-judiciously with a very fitting and unpleasant ending because military lawyers & judges were too stupid to do it properly straight away. So, as the narrator frequently opines..."no tears shed."
The americans are no better than nazis they massacred native Americans the murdered and segregated blacks the waged war in the east for oil money then there's Vietnam
Peiper wasn't even at the Malmedy Massacre. The SS troops involved were not part of Peiper's Kampfgruppe which had already advanced 8 miles farther down the road.
Other accounts indicate otherwise. He may well not have been personally there, but his men were so he's in the soup with them. His trial indicated his guilt. Then there's the 99% rule for the SS. 99.9% for the Allgemeine SS. Nobody jumped in at the trials or well after saying, "It was me, and my SS verbande, not Joachim!"
As for the element of the 11th US Armor? A travesty they did not face accountability as well. People unjustly escape accountability for massacres temporally all the time. Ultimately, they do not. Every move, every thought, every utterance is recorded for the final review.
@frankbaine3918 His trial was a shame. The troops that shot these prisoners were from the 1st SS Reconnaissance Battalion, which were not part of his command. None of his troops were even still at the crossroads, they were 8 miles further down the road. This was known and confirmed before his trial even started. I am not saying he was a Saint, far from the truth. However, he was not responsible in any way for the Malmedy Massacre.
@@frankbaine3918 The officer in command had been killed and therefore couldn't come to Peiper's defense even if they would. A U.S. Army officer did testify that he and his troops were treated well while with Peiper's command, Major Hal McCown.
Good voice. Great description. Thank you.
Advancing troops in major battles were given orders to not slow down for rounding up prisoners. These orders were issued to US paratroopers on DDay and Peiper’s troops. Both killed POWs but only the Germans were tried for war crimes. More civilians were killed by US bombers at Stavelot and Caen than by SS troops. War is hell.
That is why people should not start wars. They might lose. Of course, the Germans know better these days. They do not have to start a war to take over Europe. Its called the EU. And many Europeans do not like it but that is another story.
I agree with the American soldiers who believed that it would not be possible to commit a “war crime” against SS or IJA soldiers.
Wrong
wrong
@@offlimits4635 correct. SS was an illegal org not covered by hague convention
Get some morals. One crime does not excuse another. Do you have any evidence that the individual Germans who were murdered by the Americans had ever committed a war crime. No. Seems to me that you'd make a fine war criminal.
That hatred still exists today in our own back yards waiting to show there true colors.
So what's your problem? Peiper got a slap on the wrist and released. After the war, he was found dead in his burned apartment, he got off easy. The SS rarely took POW's. Even the Japanese got off easy for what they did to POW's.
When I joined the 82nd Airborne Division my 1st sergeant told me “war is hell ,but battle is a mother…” he was right .
I remember seeing a documentary about Joachim Piper and stated he was liviing in France on mainstream in 1975; in died in 1976 under suspicious circumstances
What was the point,we,re being invaded every day
Yes, by right wing crap.
Oh gosh, the Allies were so mean to those poor Nazis.
So many have lost their sense of irony... 👍
Are you serious?
@@ARMYISSUE99 no
Soo what!!!?? Are we supposed to have sympathy for them? 🤬
First of all we need to know. Emotional reaction is individual.
Oh... Those people didnt Had anything to do with crimes. Those were young boys mostly.
It's about knowledge, not sympathy.
@@Disco-Mike Who do you thinK gunned down our guys at Malmedy? Who dropped the Zyklon-B at Auschwitz?
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The sheer arrogance of Joachim Peiper immigrating to France, living there and insulting the French and thinking no one will make him pay for it. I can only hope he felt nothing but sheer terror when they were attacking him.
My uncle said after the SS killed those men at malmedy, if the SS gave any resistance they were killed. He said he used a bayonet and took their medals and Lugers. He was 17th ABD Artillery and was at the Bulge.
The Allies were known to be Thieves then and nothing has changed to this day, the USA & UK are still Thieves and steel everything not screwed or welded down. Once a uncivilized criminal always a criminal. Many conflicts throughout the World by those "Gentlemen" bare testimony to this.
so he murdered prisoners ?
The Bulge or Ardennes offensive in Dec 1944 is the last major offensive of Hitler's Germany anywhere, not only on the western front.
No one talks about the Wereth 11. This was a massacre of 11 African American members of the 333rd Field Artillery Division who were tortured and killed by the SS at the beginning of the Battle of the Bulge. The 333rd had been providing covering fire for the 101st Airborne as they set up to defend Bastonge
Your one statement that our American soldiers were guilty of the same war crimes that the Japanese and SS were guilty of when they killed Waffen SS prisoners PISSES me off! You obviously don't know the emotions tied up in a war like that. Those bastard murderers in the SS committed horrible crimes against our soldiers AND civilians and the big R word against women and young girls. Any time they paid for their sins at the hands of allied soldiers - they had it coming in spades, as my father would say. He was a WWII Airborne Ranger sergeant. He told us that they didn't have anything against the regular German soldiers, "they were just doing their job like we were". But the SS, they were not human and they were not given the same respect, if you get my drift. You can call it "street justice". He and his men had captured German soldiers trying to flee after the Battle of the Bulge, including one German officer. They treated them with compassion. The German officer even asked in broken English, "I would very much like to see your automatic howitzers"! Our artillery crews on the 105 mm howitzers were so well trained in setting up and rapid firing of rounds on the 105, that he thought they were automatic!. You can see a perfect example of that in the WWII b&w movie "GI Joe" with Richard Widmark about the 35:00 min. mark. This movie used active duty combat soldiers in it (which is quite obvious in this particular scene), who went on to continue fighting the war, many of whom did not return home to see themselves in the movie. God bless our soldiers who paid in blood for our freedoms.
Various massacre against Italian civilians were also committed by American forces, even less people know of them.
please enlighten us.
@@TheRetirednavy92 The biggest was the Canicattì massacre. During the allied invasion of Sicily in the city of Canicattì, after the bombing of a local production factory locals were scavenging the ruins for soaps, food and anything useful in war time. Lt. Colonel George Herbert McCaffrey,(who was appointed Military Governor of the Palermo region) along with US troops and military police arrived and told the civilians to disperse yet none did.
McCaffrey would then order the troops to fire on the civilians to get them to leave, eight civilians were killed, the youngest was an eleven year old girl. Though the total number dead is disputed by historians believing there to be more victims.
Nobody knew such an event occurred, with McCaffrey dying from a heart attack in 1954 during a doctors visit to treat his tuberculosis escaping justice for his massacre of innocent civilians. The public then learned of this war crime due to it being published by Joseph S. Salemi after his own father who was a witness to the event would tell him about it.
@@TheRetirednavy92 I will. The Italian people backed a monster by the name of Mussolini. That is what happens when you follow a dictator thinking you are better than all others.
French Africans behaved like Lavrenti BeriA
Oh the other Axis Country!
What were those rows of ring like looking things on the front of some of the Panzers?
It always amuses me how Nazis initially committed all the atrocities but play victim when it happens to them 😂😂😂
The eternal victim = 🔯
Very similar to Israel today, I expect to get banned any second
not true, atrocities were committed by both sides from the beginning. The British murdered prisoners at Dunkirk before the killings at Le Paradeis and Wormhoudt
@@offlimits4635 very true! I said what i said. You can mix all your stuff in all u want
My uncle was an infantry soldiers who landed D Day plus six. They had no mercy on the SS since the Malmaday massacre. He made it all the way to the end. The rate of attrition was 300%.
The U.S. started murdering German P.O.W's first. On 14 July 1943, soldiers of the Oklahoma Army National Guard's 1st Battalion, 180th Infantry Regiment brutally murdered more than 70 German and Italian prisoners of war in two separate Incidences.
The Biscari massacre was one of them.
And again during D-Day and after D-Day when 30 surrenderd German Army prisoners were executed at Audouville-la-Hubert, France!
Sad, but we have a modern day SS forming right here in America on college campuses. Be vigilant and remember history.
You can't be serious...
I'm pretty sure those are Marxists not Nationalist..
Yeah. The Marxists are in colleges. The Nazis are in Congress.
Red Guards. Mass psychosis.
@@shekelberggoldstein1387
Biggest lies being taught on Amercan college campus.
That Marxism/socialism creates a society of equals devoid greed and corruption, a " workers paradise " when in fact it creates slaves.
The first casualty of war is truth ….both sides thought they were the good guys ….both sides had brave and honourable soldiers
And both sides had their villains…god bless them all
Ethnic Germans have always been easily brainwashed, with a higher degree of psychopaths than in other nations.
OMG! Buddy, you have no idea what you are talking about.
@@jeffrey7938Only your opinion , which goes in 1 ear out the other.
Oh, puhlease! The Nazis absolutely knew they were the bad guys. They even dressed like cartoon villains. All they needed to do was look at the death head prominently displayed on their clothing.
@@BeannieReyBut don't be silly, think about what we did in Vietnam!We don't even know the exact number of how many civilian and military people we killed, and for what?What had they ever done to us?
There was no such thing as the “ brutal murder of the SS by American troops.” The brutal murders you speak of took place at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Mauthausen, Sobibor and many more. The US soldiers who liberated those camps could not believe the atrocities they saw. So if the soldiers executed the SS, I could understand why. I probably would have done the same…..
yep
I had an older friend who did just that. After liberating a concentration camp, his unit “couldn’t find any Germans trying to surrender.” He was proud of it and I didn’t think he was wrong. War is hell.
... what a shame for earlier breed of humans on this planet to do such acts ...
TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE IT RIGHT....
No one is saying that. We are just saying that we don’t grieve for the SS.
My dad WW2 South Pacific came to an island where just before he arrived, the US had executed 800 Japanese Marines on the beach. I recall him saying these marines were selected for height and taller than regular Japanese army. He called it murder but like this video, they did the same.
My grand uncle was a Panzergranadier in the 1st SS division Leibstandarte.
He fought in Poland, France, Russia and finally in Austria, were he and his unit surrendered to American forces.
He told us (the family) that his SS unit never took Russian or American POW’s.
Idk if he committed any war crimes, but hey, who didnt?
War is for sure a mf.
My Uncle Claude Piersall was in the heavy artillery in France on a 203 mm (8 inch) gun crew. The anti-aircraft team downed a German fighter and they could see with their field glasses the parachutist had his hands up to surrender. Probably some nice German Lutheran man glad his War experience was over and ready to go to a POW camp for a few months. A jeep with three men drove across the wheat field and a shot rang out from an M1 Carbine and the parachuter slumped dead. The men jumped out of the Jeep and grabbed him as he came down and stripped him of his watch and flight jacket before dropping him to the earth to lay. Uncle Claude told me this 37 years or so after it happened and he wept because it was so unfair.
I read Journalist Andy Rooney's book and he said Germans who clearly wanted to surrender were not allowed to as Americans kept firing artillery at them.
The Heading of this video could not be any more miss leading IMHO
The SS weren't regular German soldiers. They were bloodthirsty killers dedicated to not taking prisoners but rather eliminating them on the spot. This article needs to be further researched to determine if these German "soldiers" were really SS troops they were committed to killing any allied troops, anywhere, anytime. Some Allied Commanders, right or wrong, believed that SS troops, not regular German soldiers should be shot on sight if they were wearing the SS insignia. The SS were actually murderous animals, not regular soldiers.
Before Malmedy, the US brutality executed German and Italian soldiers! First at Biscari, Italy in 1943 when the US 45th Infantry executed 75 surrendered Italian and German soldiers! During D-Day 64 surrendered German soldiers were shot and killed! Than after D-Day the US 82nd Airborne executed 30 surrendered regular German Army prisoners at Audouville-la-Hubert, France! Prosecuting Germans for doing the same thing Americans were doing first was highly hypocritically!
It cannot be overstated that all Allied atrocities aside the Imperial Japanese and Nazi Germans couldn't have imagined how leniently their countries would be treated overall by the Allied powers under the circumstances, even by the Soviets. The insane Tokyo and Berlin Axis regimes without question would have been far less merciful had they won World War II. Even considering the fact that by late 1945 the cold war between the Western Allied powers and the Soviets was becoming ever more likely it's really astonishing how leniently postwar Germany and Japan were treated overall.
War is hell. Is not to be taken on lightly
History is written by the victors. We know who the true monsters were.
One of my great uncle’s was working in a prisoner of war camp in Australia with Japanese prisoners and someone told them that the war was over and they were free to go
The war wasn’t over and as soon as they walked out they were shot
93 were killed
The Cowra Breakout as it is called was hastily planned. On August 4 1944, Sergeant Major Kanazawa called a meeting of 20 hut leaders, because the Aussies were going to transfer junior ranks to another camp. On August 5, at 2.00 am, about 1,000 Japanese stormed the perimeter fence. 234 Japanese died. 4 Aussie guards were killed. Many Japanese who actually got out committed suicide by jumping in front of trains or hanging themselves. There is a beautiful Japanese cemetery at Cowra maintained by both Japanese & Aussie governments. War is SO pointless, is it not?...
I believe when the Japanese prisoners was trying to warn the Australians what was going to happen but wasn't able to in time. One of the guards knowing they were going to be over ran took out the firing pin out of the machine gun and hit it so the Japanese couldn't use it.
No mentioning of the same orders for the Allied forces. 🤫
just wonder, did ANY allied soldier or commander payd for HIS crimes ??
you should have no pity for SS troops
PEIPERS HOME WAS BURNT DOWN WITH HIM IN IT
That was suicide after he was discovered in France under false name. He put the house on fire, but before being burned he shot himself with .22 in the head.
Peiper’s home was burnt down by French communists.
However while fending off the assailants who were cowardly hiding in a tree line.
He went back into the already burning house to retrieve important documents and papers when the roof collapsed and this trapped him inside.
What do you do when your commander tells you to shoot the prisoners? That's why war is hell.
This was nothing compared to what happened to German in Yugoslavia. In Slovenia at end of war… ordinary Slovenes hated the Germans and their ubermenchen attitude…. Germans were not taken prisoner .. thousands were slaughtered with farm tools near the Slovene-Austrian border border ….. we hated the nazis ‘
Blond Slovene children were kidnapped and raised at German facilities in Northern
Germany.. or killed
Isn't that a war crime?
no. only germans do war crimes
I guess the Germans overestimated the well known American "humanitarian" values.
This was after American POWs were killed… it didn’t stop there either. Germans killed other POWs (British, Canadian, Soviet etc).
The Allies simply put a mirror to the German’s face.
The Germans were doing this every day of the week to Polish soldiers throughout the war.
I remember a Belgium woman describing how Peiper's men entered her house at the start of the Ardennes campaign. She was then a girl. Her mother could speak German and told the soldiers they were all civilians but they opened fire and she was the only one to survive. Everywhere Peiper served, Russia, Italy and Belgium, he was accused of killing civilians. He was never sent back to Italy or Russia to face charges. His excuse was always that they were all "partisans". It might have taken 20 years, but real justice was finally served on one Nazi murderer.
This totally risable. He would have been identifiable from personal documents and dental records to begin with.
The end remarks of your video always humiliated germany! History should be told impartially
the soldiers murdered at Chenogne were Wehrmacht, not SS
"That men do not learn from History is the most important of all lessons that History has to teach." Aldous Huxley. It will all happen again -- different place, different time, same human nature.
There are so many hypocrites here in the comments!!! no one speaks of all the people killed in France after the Germans were thrown out. No one speaks of all the women right in Germany after their surrender. I love all the angels and Saints here pointing fingers.
His neighbours were SS also they killed his dog his son is a lawyer in the America he has all his medals you people know nothing .
Nazi soldier: I'm fighting for my homeland! American soldier: If it weren't for you, I'D BE HOME.
Murder of unarmed surrendered pow’s is still murder. Period
@@IroquoisWarrior71 what would you like me to tell them, God made an exception to murder? “Vengeance is mine” says the Lord.
summary execution during war has been going on for thousands of years
I understand why US troops did this, but 2 wrongs never make a right.
This trial is exactly why the SS should never have been taken in alive.
both sides committed heinous crimes
@@offlimits4635strawman argument
This sounds like it’s narrated by The secret millionaire.
The victors write history ... still after 80 years. Everything the Western Allied did has being excused ...
Here’s a clue for those who don’t know, war is an ugly business. Shit happens, don’t expect it to change.
The 11th Armoured Div was a British Army Div A Black Bull in a Yellow background,
This goes to show war is a vicious and sicking endeavor on both sides. Many people were killed just for being at wrong place and wrong time. To much anger and hatred on both sides. There is no sympathy for the nazi ss troops. It just crazy that neighbors can not get along because of race,religion, political views. That is the most sickest part.
SS's fate in the eastern front was far far far worse than what they are facing in the western front.
Imagine the Russians lost 27 million in 4 years, when they are winning along the way to the gate of Berlin probably nobody have any idea except the Russians themselves about how many hundreds of thousands of SS the Russians have killed.
Treating SS prisoners of war was never on their playbook.
I knew this when watching some war documentary about the eastern front when a Soviet veterans giving interview talking about captured SS commander, he said he finished that commander off using a knife to the stomach, he said it feels like thrusting a bag of oil, he said he got a little bit of surprise if a human body was so fragile like a bag of water.
He said he felt absolutely nothing when killing that SS commander because he lost almost all of his entire family member to the Einsatzgruppen at the beginning of Operation Barbarossa.
Then I wonder when the Soviets turn the tide of the war along the way from the Soviet border all the way to Berlin all those Waffen SS under the Soviet steamroller must have experienced the unimaginable treatment.
Just remember that estimated around 1.2 million German women was sexually assaulted or raped by the Soviets when Nazi lost the war, what about all those Waffen SS...?
All surrendered and captured Wehrmacht was immediately sent to Siberian gulag for 10 years and only 10% survived.
I don't think they leave any SS alive.
The Soviets were NO victims! They invaded 5 peaceful countries before Hitler invaded them!
Have no sympathy for the SS.
No sympathy for you.
Tere sympathy de need kis nu ha
Ask Native indian’s their love US Cavalry 😂
@@454FatJack I am Indian Punjabi
@@Karl-nv5okAHH a Romanian fascist no doubt
Oradour sur Glane massacre June 1944
The reality is after D-Day, Waffen SS units began to execute Allied prisoners-of-war. It's easy to chide those Americans and Canadians who later on ignored the Geneva Convention and shot some of their SS captives. The prevailing attitude was simply "to get even." I have video interviews from the early '90's of Canadian D-Day veterans who expressed that sentiment. There were some who wanted to "get even" but when the opportunity was present, " they just couldn't do it." That suggests the German SS deaths by shooting were probably far fewer than the number of Allies who were lined up and executed.
My uncle was in the Bulge and he told me he never took SS prisoners alive. He hated the Germans till the day he died.
Funny thing is no one from us UK or french end up on the war crimes court......
History is written by the winners...
So ????
And how many instituted death camp that killed millions of people , ifiot
So? We won. Tell us you approve of the camps and the ovens without telling us.
Because none of the three that you mentioned committed genocide.
OK, first, the "witness" never saw it happen. Second, Ike sent the 11th Armored CO home as soon as he heard about it since it was the CO who apparently gave the order, so, clearly, somebody did pay.
The Waffen SS was well known for their cruelty. I don't know of I would have gone along with it-wasnt there-but their reputation preceded them. Live by the sword, doe by the sword.
The treachery and deceit,
9AD Teutoburg forest.
A date of infamy…
Bummer.....
Regardless, of which side willingly shot Prisoners of War, it was wrong to do so. Although, one might think differently had they been present and witnessed the Executions of their Comrades. Hindsight is only reserved for those who manage to survive. War is Hell.