Marvel’s Final X Men Human War Begins
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2024
- Fall of the House of X (2024) Issue 3 by Gerry Duggan.
▸ THE END HAS TRULY BEGUN! The X-Men have taken all they're willing to take from Orchis… Now it's time for them to do the dishing out. Unfortunately, just when it seems like one threat is over…another rises to take its place. The final battle of the Krakoan age rages as two series that are one move toward a crash that will echo across the universe…
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Rob "i have no idea why you guys love Cyclops"
Also Rob "Cyclops punches people in the face with lasers!"
yea, thats one of the reasons lol
So he's the will Smith of marvel comics, but with lasers. They should have a comic where aliens invade and cyclops shoots one of them in the face and says, "welcome to earth".
I think the concussive vibration of atoms also generates heat
@@Vamroc Friction, yep.
The thing about Cyclops us that the more difficult the situation is, the better of a tactician and strategist he becomes. Second Coming was of his best moments
Cyclops is the most cishet whitebread character that I’m supposed to be is a minority
"It's like Marvel's attempt to make the Inhumans cool." Rob has no chill. Never change 😂
It hurts every time cause I LOVE Black Bolt, but Rob right they stay ho'ing that man.
@@voldregatheblackmage8616 Him and the lock jaw are the only ones I even know. why cant we get a "no more inhumans" where only they survive.
@@mariop8852 The portal guy too, he can stay.
Which is ironic cause inhumans are a lot cooler than that shitty Jane Foster Thor story he splooges all about
@@voldregatheblackmage8616they tried to replace the X-men with them when they were mad at fox and then killed them off when it didn’t work lol.
Rob. We need more full stories. Thank U.
I second this
Sometimes it’s hard to figure out the reading/listening order. So the fill stories help with that.
Plus I play the full stories when I drive and sleep
ABSOLUTELY
More full Larfleeze stories
I wish for them, however I'm gonna just be that guy: He needs to pay the bills, and with the MCU being as it is, that's not easy.
I can't be mad though, you do what you gotta do.
It's not about what cyclops can do. It's about his commitment to getting the job done. If it needs to doing, he is the man.
@ANIMALSEMEN-lm4jk Gambit is more of a fun guy & his abilities are awesome. I just wouldn't necessarily entrust him with a mission-critical strategy in the same way I would Cyke.
Absolutely. He’ll stare down(pun intended) anyone if he believes its what needs to be done. And more often than not, he has a plan
It’s a shame rob get consumed by the power scaling sometimes.
Amen
Did not expect that moment. What a twist.
Nimrod: "Thank you."
Dr. Gregor: "Not cool."
😂😂😂😂
YOU!!!
What I love about Cyclops is, he is on-par or atleast near Captain America's mind, in terms of strategy and calculation. That's something Cap himself has stated. The guy has, what is essentially a lower-class ability, and maximized it to it's fullest. Like how Cap can ricochet his shield off multiple surfaces to connect, Cyclops can do the same. Bro's got the sharpest mind. That and he was right.
Must be why the mutants decided that needed Cap brought back from the dead to lead them, not Scott.
because it's Cap. @@johnmeehan7884
@@johnmeehan7884 LOL- wait I was gonna insult Judgement Day but... uh...
How did Cap get the Serum back post-resurrection? Did he even?
If they just clean slated Judgement Day, that just means it was a really bad run
@@XXMatt0040XX The serum might have altered his DNA permanently so he does not really need the serum in his system when brought back from the DNA. His DNA has been altered and his body already makes it.
Ive always been a Cyclops fan. And it isnt because he shoots concussive blasts, essentially being able to destroy whatever he looks at. Its because he’s spent most of his life trying to not destroy the world around him. He’s had to figure out other ways to succeed. He has evolved quite a bit as a character, and when he stares you down(metaphorically speaking) in almost certain defeat, its because he has a plan…so watch out. Its about to get real
Cyclops gets defeated all the time. His eye beams are overcome all the time. You have some strong head canon.
Cyclop's powers are very cool, but they are NOTHING compared to his strategic mind. I'll never forget how the man devised a plan to take down the Vampire Nation. He's always 50 moves ahead.
@@stevewharton2050 V1.394 has both my favourite Wolvy and Cyclops moments. In it Cyclops has the biggest power moment over Warp.
If you’re telling me these past few years of Powers of X to the Fall of X was us watching how we got to the Dystopian future in DOFP… I’m just gonna die right now with the knowledge that Hickman is a genius!!
I thought they avoided it
Rob: Says Cyclops is the best villain.
Rob: Doesn't understand the obsession. I say that in jest, I agree completely.
i mean pheonix cyclops. regular ol scott not so much he just has a lot of good human traits. tactical leadership knowledge and skill etc.
@@Sentient.A.I.cycop
I always feel like cyclops is the X-Men's poor man's Captain America.
@@buzzonhigh4752 Because he is
Comment bait I guess
Apocalypse vs Uranos would have been one of the greatest fights in AAAAAGES. Although Uranos probably would have one tbh, I feel like Apocalypse could have given him a craaaaazy run for his money
I'm low key glad it didn't happen. They wasn't gon let him win and I wasn't tryna see Apocalypse get stretched.
@voldregatheblackmage8616 if Legion couldn't do it, Apocalypse sure as hell aint.
@@normannervis65 Legion is nuts... his power depends entirely on which personality he's currently using. Apocalypse could best Legion mentally depending on his state of mind...
@@justthevoicebackup280 Legion and Uranos fight was wilder than anything Apocalypse could pull off.
@@normannervis65wait I thought the fight with Legion was interrupted? I forgot the detail but Legion was needed somewhere else if I remember correctly
Cyclops is so much more than his eye beams.
Also, this is really stupid, but every time rob said "orchestrated the attack", I heard "Orchis-strated the attack"
HAHAHAHAHHA!!!! I didn't even think of this.. Perfect
Nah Cyclops has sucked for like 20 years now.
@@johnmeehan7884 irrelevant take
@@AifDaimonCyclops is a orgistrated attack
They've really de-pushed the significance and rarity of adamantium. It's frickin everywhere now.
Part of the Mutant Resurrection Protocol was not just growing new biological bodies for dead mutants, but also restoring necessary enhancements - like Wolverine's adamantium skeleton. I don't know how many times Logan has died in this series, but it's been more than once - which means there's a few extra skeletons out there. I assume Orchis made the harpoon out of one of these.
We need to give wolvie a upgrade then. some metal that is superior and doesn't poison him. Maybe purified adamantium.
@@kuyt3400
Adamantium isn't a natural metal - it's a mix of Vibraniun and Steel alloys - so I'm not sure if you even can purify it.
Alternative would be Adamantine, but that is even rarer and basically impossible to find.
@@TheCursedCat1927 Its fictional so if it can poison someone who is immune to all other poisons for some reason then it can be purified or that stupid trope of poisoning someone with a healing factor can be retconned because its just dumb.
It’s not the love of Cyclops. It’s the respect that he deserves. Leading the X-Men is like hearding cats & he does it the best.
And when he was a villain, he was still awesome
Just don't ask him to be a faithful husband. (No, I'm not letting that go.)
Disagree about the bad guy part. Hated those arcs. Not a fan of current him much either. When he still had morals he was good. His morals made him actually interesting.
He’s as boring as captain America and Superman. Just not a fun read mostly
Herding*
@@Onimass If you think good is "boring" while trying to maintain good principles. You really don't understand good.
And there's certainly been a lot of writers who like you didn't understand the first thing about principles or even virtues, and so they wrote them rather thoughtlessly.
The final x men - human war until the next one.
Except this one essentially ties in an almost 40yrs story run and one of the greatest X-men stories of all time. Days of Future Past
A manga artist reviewing xmen said out of all western heroes, he found cyclops the most interesting.
A man that would kill anything he sees is a cool concept.
Regular cyclops is a dead beat cop to me and a leadership hogger who lost to storm. Phoenix cyclops must be who people is talking about
Cyclops is the complete opposite of a COP lol. He was a petty thief before he was burdened with leading a whole ass race, and he's been leading them for all his life since. Wolverine is the cop, the one who defects to Avengers multiple times over. @@johnlawful2272
"A man that would kill anything he sees is a cool concept." That is a cool concept, too bad Cyclops' optic blast is consistently 99% of the force required, no matter who the target is.
@@johnlawful2272
And a leadership hogger who lost to storm while telepathically nerfed by his wife.
Fixed for you.
@@johnlawful2272cyclops is the true embodiment of Malcom X
Cyclops only shoots a concussive blast is as much as cap only throws a shield.
If the MCU does it to their strengths, Cyclops will be portrayed as the captain of a rugby team and not just the captain of of Varsity college team.
Rob: “i have no idea why you guys love Cyclops”
Me thinking about that one time during pre-Hellfire Gala Massacre when Cyclops was still lead the X-men & ricochet his optic blast off of every traffic light on the street to hit a certain target
Gambit was my favorite as a kid. As an adult I appreciate the nuance of Cyclops' character more.
I love that the Tony x Emma marriage for cover is slowly becoming legit.
Right? It’s like the match up I never thought I needed. Who would have e thought their personalities would mesh so well together?
It makes me kinda sad. Emma is better in house with the X-men. She drifts evil whenever she spends time anywhere else. Tony as a character might benefit, but that feels like they will build it up and then Mephisto the whole deal because we need drunk playboy Tony back
Love it too
😊
Love Emma Frost so much.
I bet Rob would change his opinion of The Inhumans if Jonathan Hickman wrote them.
True, Rob still brings up Hickman's runs on FF and Avengers/New Avengers almost every time those teams are a focus point of a story.
Would be a waste of Hickman's talents
Completely agree, but it’s because Hickman would’ve made the characters likeable
I need to read the X-Men comics because the conflicts and struggles that Mutants deal with are both Brutal and Epic.
I have to read all X-Men Arcs: Days of Future Past, Phoenix Saga/Dark Phoenix Saga, Mutant Massacre, Fall of the Mutants, Extinction Agenda, Operation Zero Tolerance, Deadly Genesis, Messiah Complex, Necrosha, Second Coming, Messiah War, Curse of the Mutants, Emperor Vulcan, Dark Reign: Utopia, and Schism.
Man, I love the X-Men comics.
✖️-Men for life!!!
"If it needs doing, it will be done." Aught to be Illyana's catch phrase.
That was a quote by Cyclops back when they first attacked Orchis. When Wolverine and Nightcrawler died crashing a station in the sun
Rob, read what Cyclops does and you'll begin to see that he's a certified bad ass. You'll see.
Dude, the reason we like cyclops is because all he does is shoot concussive blasts…
Not OP as hell like wolverine coming back from getting chopped in half or some BS.
And he also like is handicapped in a small way cause of the eyes. So people who don’t see themselves as colossus, wolverine, or people like that, they can relate more to a calculating more down to earth level superhero
I wouldn’t say Cyclops is OP compared to people like Jean or Legion, but he absolutely curbstomps Wolverine.
@@Aureilius2112 well according to Age of Apocalypse timeline. They tied. Wolverine cut out one of his eyes and Cyclops took one of his hands and it never healed back so the adamantium was melted into a metallic smooth stump instead. There’s that.
Cyclops is probably the most relatable and probably the most realistic depiction of a powered individual in Marvel. For me, at least the most interesting male character. He's got the weight of a whole race on his shoulders, and it shows. All the mental scars. He's not the perfect guy like Cap or Superman. He's just a guy doing his best. Probably adults can relate with him more tbf. The position he's in as the leader he can never be on everyones good side, but he has to make those tough calls for the greater good.
His power is also a disability, he can't control it. For me, that's good representation. He's also probably on the spectrum with how obsessive he is with planning everything out so he never hurts anyone, so he's prepared for any threats that his family faces. The man never takes a moment to breathe.
There's still so much more to speak about him. He's truly been the most fleshed out character in Marvel. He's THE X-Man.
Lol wolverine is not OP, he loses fights all the time. Keep up, goofy.
@@pranjalchaudhary9124this is probably the most accurate description of Scott I've seen. All these weirdos make up head canon about him.
Cyclops is underrated
Put respect on Cyclops' name.
Rob hates the inhumans so much I love it!
I think of his optic blast like water (hear me out) if someone turns a firehouse on you, its going to knock you back.if you get hit with a constrained small stream like a pressure washer, its going to do damage too
Rob: "I never understood why people love Cyclops so much"
Also Rob, 2 days ago: *Uploads a video dedicated to why Cyclops was Marvel's best villain"
Age is catching up to our boy
7D universe
I think he may have read the comments of that video. "Cyclops was right". He was no villain, Marvel just wanted to make him one. But Cyclops defeated his makers. He doesn't need to be an Omega level to be THE X-Man.
Yessir, we love us some Ororo. And some Cyclops. I mean, let’s be honest, Scott is one of the only ones who has looked cool in every X-Men uniform. I’ve never liked that they expanded on his blasts as being from the concussive dimension or whatever. That brings him too close to a magic user IMO.
Cyclops is so cool because he’s the real Malcom X of the franchise and was the only one who adopted the ideologies of both Charles and magneto in a practical sense. On top of that, cyclops shines brightest during moments like this. Scott’s been carrying this franchise on his back since day one weather you like it or not and will do so gladly every time. The fact that concussive beams is his only power in a team full of men and women of mythic proportions and he keeps THEM in line? That’s why we love cyclops. Fans know it, marvel knows it, the X-men knows it, and their opps know it
Cyclops would be Malcolm X if he only fights for mutants, but Cyclops fights for everyone, humans included.
Awesome comparison 🎉
This was perfected written! 👏 👏 👏
So who’s the better leader between cyclops and Cap
Both are different kinds of leaders really. Cap is an inspirational idealist; Cyclops is a do-whatever-it-takes-to-get-the-job-done pragmatist.@@hustleenterprise1297
uranos is thanos grand father, bro!
Great video
I love when Rob says "He helps them understand their place in the bigger picture" lol!. Rob makes these videos really entertaining and cool.
“Helps them finish with all their living” always gets me
Emma put dr stasis in an inf death loop 😂😂😂
This is how you write a quality X-Men story over years with an incredible payoff!! Johnathan Hickman and the teams who worked on the X-men have done amazing work. I am so excited to see the finale.
I don't think anyone has liked a character just for their power set. Its how they use it, or the character is interesting. Cyclops does both.
Punch force is used a lot to describe his powers lol
Rob is the best at these breakdowns💯
*rubs hands like birdman* its about to go down!
Dude how can you not love cyclops? He is both restricted and uninhibited. He is the better version of the aspect of superman who is afraid to let loose his power. Dude can just fly away but cyclops has to live with it.
You've never read all star superman and kingdom come
His power is also a disability that he'll always have to live with. Man's got the weight of the world on his shoulder, never takes a breather, makes those tough calls, loses friends, family but keeps going. That's an interesting character. A superhero with actual flaws.
I was just rewatching your latest vid on cyclops and saw you just dropped some more X-Men heat thanks rob!!
I actually agree. I think "being punched in the face with lazers" IS the best description of Cyclops optic blast
The X-Men are fighting like 3 things, Ochis, Moira McTagard, and the Dominion Enigma. Maybe the Robot Sentinals like Nimrod and Omega Sentinal.
We use to describe his eyes as a gateway portal to the punch dimension.
How dare you say that about cyclops!! OK all wolverine does is scratch people technically. 3:11 but as someone with glasses, cyclops has always been my favorite.
That's really cool.
Juggernaut's helmet is dope! By the way Cyclops is just a G. He's an anytime any place type leader and he's banging the Phoenix!
Cyclops has banged some of the hottest women of marvel
His list includes
Jean
Maddie
Emma
Coleen wing
Psylocke
Dazzler
My alreadt existing love for cyclops was cemented during the Fear Itself story, where X-men face off against amped up Juggernaut. The line "We have more plans than letters" was too cold. Tactical genius
I'm diggin' the hallway/auditorium sound. Fantastic!!!
Cyclops is awesome. He stands against the tide and fights for whats right!
You mean when he took the Phoenix power from his allies and killed Charles? Then was a bad guy for years? Typical goofy.
I want to create a mutant whose ability is to have a arm pop up behind their head that can only give the bird. Then I want Jonathan Hickman to write this character.
Absolutely love what you do for comic book fans. Keep going. You’re doing great.
Love the work you do rob shout out from Maine keep up the hard work
People think it's weird that Cyclops is my favorite from the X men lol. The scene in the animated series when he lost his glasses and had to get back home sold him for me. Dude got attacked by and blasted wolves. That was dope af
"Why are people obsessed with Cyclops? He can just shoot concussive blasts!"
Much like Big Blue in DC, it is not about the powers but about the character themself.
And the ending of this is amazing (rob in every single intro) 😂❤
Comics explained narration and deep dive is cool.
Apocalypse never fighting Uranos, let alone crossing paths with Thanos, remains one of Marvel's most significant crimes and a glaring missed opportunity.
Couldn't agree more I don't care if he losses he should give Uranos hell if all his abilities are utilized properly.
They had to do that for story purposes because Everytime we've seen Wolverine try to pierce Juggernaut with his ADAMANTIUM claws it never works but your telling me a ADAMANTIUM harpoon pierces him?
He's wrong! trust me.
When that head twisted, I was like
OH MY GOD!!!!
geez !!! NEED to find me some Time in order to Sit and READ ALL of these issues !!!
Cyclops is my favourite the coolest x man by far
dude the x-men krakoa arc has been wrapping up and having “finales” for years now
Roll with it bro.
It could actually wrap up though they do that to fall in line with the mcu
Just here waiting for Rob to change the title of the video 3 times
Juggernaut commentary is top tier! “And then he helps them finish with all their living” took me out 😂
Rob the reason people love cyclops ( myself included my favorite X-men ) is because with a power so basic he’s one of if not the best tactical mind in marvel, he’s a great leader, probably the best, great hand to hand fighter and has god tier rizz. He’s a great hero and anti hero and isn’t over powered or overhyped. But you believe in him and he’s the middle road between professor X and magneto.
And he was right.
I feel like enigma is going to show up in the next issue and be like nope. And just wipe away nimrod and sentinal city with a wave of his hand.
Wouldn't Enigma work with Nimrod since it's AI as well
@@strifenineteen No. Because enigma is a human turned into a god. He destroyed an alternate universe version of nimrod in the last xmen immortal issue because dr. Staces was trying to achieve godhood with a machine god.
Imagine thinking Cyclops just shoots “concussive blast” 😅
ya feel me
Rogue, powered up again during the events of M day and Phoenix force. she went back to only being able to store one mutability at a time since the start of House of X and power of X.
Cyclops "the powers" aren't what's awesome (although his powers are awesome).
It's Cyclops "the man". Respect the throne.
Exactly this. I probably don't even need to talk about his powers to tell anyone he is THE X-Man.
Seeing Cyclops in Xmen Schism step up as a leader in a more militant way like Magneto and blast Wolverine's smug face off gave me a whole lot more respect for him as a character.
Have you seen 97 early Rob?
Ah, ye olde Death Laser in space.
A timeless classic.
Tieining this in with Days of Future Past is really good. After Hickman left I was noticeably unphased by the rest. . . Let's hope this end the way it should.
Cyclops has been perfect this entire krokoa era.
Rob will fit in a “inhumans suck”
anyway he can 😂😂😂
i thought cyclops’ eye laser was like superman’s lol (16:22 he cuts off a head!)
Can cyclops perform surgery with it like superman?
or zig zag it like darkseid? in season 1 of xmen t.a.s. he makes a tunnel through a mountain with them, that's more than a laser punch rob! he also gets his power from the sun so must be some heat involved! lol @@johnlawful2272
@@johnlawful2272 No. His beams are uncontrollable *portals* to a dimension *packed* with the energy.
Cyclops is akin to a hammer, while Supes' closer to a scalpel.
@@XXMatt0040XX superman is far far stronger than cyclops he even used heat vision to weld a tear in the universe even beat multiverse threats also marvel keeps switching from punch dimension to he gets his power from radiation
@@johnlawful2272 There's one thing though, Cyclops' eyes *do not fire off heat vision.*
Rob, watching you from the start up to now has been akin to listening to Redman for the 1st time and his growth in style change with every album(ultra compliment)
You're finally back!
I am shocked that Alia Gregor died!
Reminds me of when robot killed Cecil
Cyclops only has concussive blasts? He has been the leader since day one. No one spent more time in the danger room, probably the xmens best tactician
Storm was the leader for a while
Boo
Marvel's best tactician really. Dude literally worries and plans about threats that don't exist yet in his spare time.
Peter Patrelli... now that's a name i haven't heard in a long time... long time
Wow, so the main X-Men timeline has caught up two days of future past. I know it’s probably not gonna be cold this but that ball looks like a sentinel satellite .
Did he say harpoon made from wolverines skeleton??
yes there was one story many months ago where Wolverine kept dying and being reborn over and over back to back in an assault to try and kill Nimrod, in that event Orchis got its hands on about 15 Wolverine Skeletons
Dude. Cyclops doesn’t “just” shoot concussive blasts. That’s like saying Captain America just punches things. His eyes hit as hard as the Hulk, his accuracy is better than Hawkeye, and he is arguably the best tactician and leader in ALL comics. Put respect on his name.
In all comics? Bro I love the character but chill lol even storm gets to be leader sometimes in the xmen
@@Melancholic.0 Storm is also a great leader. Cyclops being great doesn’t mean she isn’t also awesome. She definitely brings a different style of leadership that’s more emotionally supportive. Tactically though Cyclops takes it.
@@Melancholic.0 lol, a random Storm stan appears. No one said anything about her.
@@Alex-qy8nj I'm referencing the statement, the best leader in all comics and it's like he is not always the best leader in the xmen
How come Cyclops with his concussive blasts could incinerate Magento's head off in Marvel Ultimatum?
Ever since Nimrod was introduced Marvel has written stories "THIS IS IT! THIS IS HOW WE GOT NIMROD!"
This issue was soooooo dope!!! Literally the best issue yet of the fall
I agree I’m liking fall better than rise ATM rise is a little convoluted for me but it’s picking up fall is action packed and so much going on feels like dire situations from page to page
Glad to hear Rob will never be Team Boy Scout. 🎉🎉
2:20: This is why I've not been an X-Men for *years.* I just feel like they're milking the war stuff. It's boring at this point imo.
And the writing just so dishonest. Everything the X-men do is just good, doesn't matter if it is almost as bad as Orcys sometimes...
@@tiborcsendes5269 The fact that people like Kitty Pride as a... psychopath... is all I need to say.
Rob, is your mic getting more echo or are you using a different sound setup? Thanks for a great video, as always!
ive been follow comics explained since in fb.. accurate explanation and he has a vast knowledge in comics.. when it comes of story telling his the 1 that worth searching for.. like he knows how it begins and how it ends.. legit of legit..
The interchange between place in the bigger picture and finish with all their living had me bust out laughing.
Good work!
In some comics, Cyclops' vision seems to be written as heat, but mostly concussive force. Maybe it was from having the phoenix force, but I remember him using his vision to fuse the tectonic plates together to prevent earthquakes
scott's power was not always concussive in nature until a specific fanmail forced the editor to justify it that way (HE FELT he had to justify it that way, somehow, but i remember reading it and being disappointed. it sounded like the editor simply wanted to show superior knowledge to the fan). but even after that retcon, when a dramatic moment becomes necessary and mostly to underscore scott's power, we see a felled enemy / structure smoking and in a some occasions, glowing & smoking. god only knows why that fan mail was answered that way, it makes no sense as up to not too long ago, scott was like superman, sun-powered, which is why dark phoenix loved being hit with his eye blasts. in one of jean's constant resuscitations, beast built a capsure meant IIRC to either contain her power or stabilize it, remember that issue? they went into the capsule and scott kept feeding dark phoenix with eye blasts... "MORE". more what? more purely kinetic hits to the body? more heat-free explosions? that's not what dark phoenix feeds on. was she possessed by sebastian shaw? ANYWHOO... that 1 retcon destroys thousands of comic issues. effing marvel comics.
Thx Rob! ✊🏾
im still mad that you didn't cover the "fight" between legion and uranos
A duel between Ultron prime and Nimrod the greater would be godly🔥🔥🔥
11:02 Nice!! I love heroes
Thank you Rob!!!! I’m Finaly glad to know someone else who doesn’t thing cyclops is cool!
Rob, you need to do a quick xmen recap or playlist to get people ready for 97' some of us were lucky growing up knowing what happened and for new ones, or just us old heads to recap becus we are excited.... that be awesome
Can we get some DC content. Ideally, the previously promised DC top 20 most powerful characters hierarchy please. The Marvel top 20 is still my favorite video of yours. Although, it probably needs to be redone soon.
My Boi Comics explained knows what the fans want !