@@TropicalCentralValley going to start youtube videos just so I can show you how I am doing the same plants you are. My Guamuchil has yet to fruit, but looking forward to it after your video. Seems to be taking the cold ok at about 10 ft tall.
I have 2 sweet tamarinds. 1 is grafted and in container. The other seedling , i planted outside on the sidewalk for experiment to see if it will survive our "harsh"😂 winter in zone 10b LA. To my surprise, it did not lose a single leaf. I took cuttings from my grafted one and grafted the one in ground last week. Hopefully the graft takes. Next up on my 2 buy list is guamucil and inga. Tried my neighbors guamucil once and it was bland. I'll give it a try and if it sucks, down it goes. Lol
That’s awesome. The gumuchil can be an acquired taste. Depending on the level of ripeness, the unripe pods are a bit tasteless, however, the ripe ones are quite juicy and sweet, similar to an Inga.
I didn't know the name of guamuchil, but I could understand what it was when I saw the fruit. It is popular here in Thailand. It is rather cold in your hometown. Thank you for your interesting report.
Thank you. Although native to Mexico, they are grown all over the world, particularly in warmer climate. In Thailand, I believe it’s call a “มะขามเทศ”, or Foreign Tamarind. Fortunately, due to the La Niña weather pattern, this year is actually warmer than our typical winter.
My first guamuchil was purchased from Mimosa Nursery in Los Angeles. The guamuchil I now have was actually a volunteer that was grown from seed from the fruits I ate. Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals, including cuttings, however, I do give away (free of cost) seedlings, cuttings and seeds to local viewers. Please feel free to message me on Instagram at TropicalCentralValley.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you, I'll have to take a look when I go to LA. We can't bring seeds from Mexico or else I would had brought some long time ago. :) I really enjoy watching your videos/garden.
Thank you. I try to avoid trees where I have to process its fruits. I prefer to pick the fruit and eat it from the branches. Grazie. Cerco di evitare gli alberi dove devo elaborarne i frutti. Preferisco raccogliere il frutto e mangiarlo dai rami.
Love your garden. Great videos thanks for sharing. We live in a somewhat similar climate to you in Adelaide, South Australia so your information is very interesting.
Definitely gets colder than here in Melbourne Australia but im guessing your winter days currently get to 16/17c and wben you come out of winter a bit sooner and not as cold/wet for a couple month? Your Winters are drier? Not tasted that Mexican fruit Guamuchil but hopefully one day?you don't have a Lucuma?
Our daytime temperature in late January can get to 17°C, however, the norm between December and January is about 10°C. Our weather generally warms up in March, with many of my trees sprouting new foliage in May. We essentially have between May - November for the trees to grow and produce fruits. I do not have a Lucuma, but will probably get one should I find it in a nursery.
@@TropicalCentralValley Some people in California Rare Fruit Group would have advanced plants for sure as a member has YTs of his fruiting and making icecream YUM - most cold tolerant Pouteria
@@TropicalCentralValley i had to import seed from Peru via eBay - is flowering now after 6y - flowers are very similar to Sapodilla - ive got both moist like a good ripe Canistel & dry for smoothies - one is from a New Zealand tree moist variety called Montalban - wasnt he a Peruvian King?
Nice video; do you top dress or fertilize the ingas? I’m growing some in large containers in Michigan! I’m still trying to figure out what they like because there’s not a lot of growing info online for them
I do. I use organic fertilizer high in phosphorus and potassium, as the Inga is nitrogen fixing. I’m not sure how they do with your cold, but mine seem to be fine now with USDA Zone 9b freezes. Not sure if you’ve seen my other Inga video, but here it is: ua-cam.com/video/qGM4KA3HNjU/v-deo.html
@@TropicalCentralValley thanks for the reply. I’m growing mine indoors with grow lights and a grow tent. It will live outside for just 3-4 months during summer and fall here in zone 6. I got seeds from someone in Hawaii. Mine are about 2 feet tall currently
@@TropicalCentralValley I definitely need to put them in something even larger soon. They are in big fabric grow pots while they’re smaller but I learned from your video the root systems are massive 😅😅
Thanks for the video. I live in Long Beach CA. I just planted a 5 ft. Inga tree about 10 feet from my house and about 2 feet from the sidewalk, and about 5 ft from my water main. Should that be ok? Can I just keep the tree small with heavy pruning? I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you!
It should be fine. Unlike their native claimants, in your region, the tree is kept somewhat small due to the unfavorable environmental conditions. I’ve since made an updated video covering the growing of Inga: Growing Inga (Ice Cream Bean) Trees in 25°F - 115°F Climate ua-cam.com/video/TbUnGRZL2LY/v-deo.html
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals, including seeds. If you’re nearing the Los Angeles area, there are a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the region.
Hey friend, question if the ice cream bean has such invasive roots why do you have a few by your side walk? Are you worried about the sidewalk or your utilities ?
The inspiration actually came from the City of Visalia. In my city, there is an ordnance that protects our massive and very old oak trees. The ordnance strictly prohibits anyone and any entities from causing harm to the oak trees. People have actually been fined for harassing oak trees. Due to this, there’s a number of oak trees stuck in road dividers that are no larger than where I planted the two Inga trees. The two Inga trees will likely never reach a quarter the size of their Amazon counterparts, due to our winter and dry summer heat. The Inga tree trunk in the Amazon rainforest can get to 2 feet in diameter and grow up to 100 feet in height. I will be lucky to get a 25 feet Inga tree. Being on the smaller side, this keeps their root system maintained.
Yes and no. My strategy is to train the trees to reach into my front yard for nutrients as it is most abundant there. Our winter frosts keeps the trees smaller than their Amazon counterparts.
Do you think the ice cream banana, or other fruiting bananas will do ok in low 30's temperatures? We have 28 to 30 degrees weeks in Northern California. I also noticed dense orchard/forest you have. Did you have issues with temperatures when your orchard was not so dense? I'm thinking you have created a micro climate that protects some of these cold sensitive plants. I hope in wrong, I really want to replicate something similar to what you have done. Thank you
All of my banana plants are doing fine. My Ice Cream and Nam Wah banana plants are holding onto their banana fruits. I typically let the fruits ripen through winter and pick them in spring. In the very beginning, many of my tropicals were knocked down severely as my microclimate was being established, however, they seem to be okay now that there are nearby trees protecting them. More importantly than microclimate are the mycorrhizal network which all of my inground trees are connected to.
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you’re near or are taking a trip to the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries there.
Guamuchil is originally from Mexico, Central America, and northern South America. I had a chance to plant one but decided not to because I think there are better fruit trees to plant. I have a Inga tree someone gave me in a small five gallon pot and the tree is about 10 feet tall, I am going to plant it in a 45 gallon pot. hopefully it will fruit in a pot that big. The person who gave it to me was not impressed with the taste of the fruit. I am hoping to taste it myself to see if I like the fruit. My main concern is how evasive the Inga is and even if I like the fruit I may not keep it. I have a regular Tamarind that is maybe 13 feet high and never has fruited do you or one of your followers know anything about how to make a Tamarind flower and fruit?
As the tamarind is a long lived tree, from the description of your tree, if grown from seed, it’ll take a while before it will bear fruits, likely 8 years.
My go to places are Mimosa, Champa and Emily nurseries in the Los Angeles area. Our local “nurseries”, including Belmont Nursery for some reason dare not sell tropicals. I’ve seen Lowe’s and Home Depot carry more selections of tropical fruit trees than our local nurseries. The sad truth is, our local nurseries count hibiscus and jade plants as being “tropical“. On rare occasions, they may carry a pineapple guava.
I remember going to a local nursery in Visalia and asking if they had any papaya trees. Their response was that our winter will kill them. To be fair, they aren’t entirely wrong. Our winter remains the biggest enemy when it comes to the growing of tropicals. The core message of my videos is to show the good and the bad, hence my “Growing XXXX in Cold Climate” series of videos showing the worst case scenario for tropicals that I have growing through numerous winters.
Those Grandma Chills yo
The tree does this every year. Always seems to bounce back though, but fingers crossed.
@@TropicalCentralValley going to start youtube videos just so I can show you how I am doing the same plants you are.
My Guamuchil has yet to fruit, but looking forward to it after your video.
Seems to be taking the cold ok at about 10 ft tall.
I have 2 sweet tamarinds. 1 is grafted and in container. The other seedling , i planted outside on the sidewalk for experiment to see if it will survive our "harsh"😂 winter in zone 10b LA. To my surprise, it did not lose a single leaf. I took cuttings from my grafted one and grafted the one in ground last week. Hopefully the graft takes. Next up on my 2 buy list is guamucil and inga. Tried my neighbors guamucil once and it was bland. I'll give it a try and if it sucks, down it goes. Lol
That’s awesome. The gumuchil can be an acquired taste. Depending on the level of ripeness, the unripe pods are a bit tasteless, however, the ripe ones are quite juicy and sweet, similar to an Inga.
Great video
Thank you.
Just found your site. I live in Madera and looking to add a food forest to my new property. Thanks for the information.
I didn't know the name of guamuchil, but I could understand what it was when I saw the fruit. It is popular here in Thailand.
It is rather cold in your hometown. Thank you for your interesting report.
Thank you. Although native to Mexico, they are grown all over the world, particularly in warmer climate. In Thailand, I believe it’s call a “มะขามเทศ”, or Foreign Tamarind.
Fortunately, due to the La Niña weather pattern, this year is actually warmer than our typical winter.
Guamuchil is good I've taste the fruit when visiting Mexico, or when mom brings back dried fruit.
Where do you get your trees or cuttings? I've been trying to get a tamarind, guamuchil and jocote cuttings. Do you sell cuttings?
My first guamuchil was purchased from Mimosa Nursery in Los Angeles. The guamuchil I now have was actually a volunteer that was grown from seed from the fruits I ate.
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals, including cuttings, however, I do give away (free of cost) seedlings, cuttings and seeds to local viewers. Please feel free to message me on Instagram at TropicalCentralValley.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you, I'll have to take a look when I go to LA. We can't bring seeds from Mexico or else I would had brought some long time ago. :) I really enjoy watching your videos/garden.
Thank you. Specific to guamuchil fruits, every once in a while, your local Vallarta Supermarket carries them, though they are quite rare to find.
@@TropicalCentralValley thanks for the info I'll keep an eye. Have not seen them. If you ever find jocote tree I would love to know wwhere. :)
Ciao bel vidéo.....perche non provi con cacao Caffè? Il vivo nel sud Italia li coltivo hanno sopravissuto à 0°
Thank you. I try to avoid trees where I have to process its fruits.
I prefer to pick the fruit and eat it from the branches.
Grazie. Cerco di evitare gli alberi dove devo elaborarne i frutti.
Preferisco raccogliere il frutto e mangiarlo dai rami.
Love your garden. Great videos thanks for sharing. We live in a somewhat similar climate to you in Adelaide, South Australia so your information is very interesting.
Thank you.
Definitely gets colder than here in Melbourne Australia but im guessing your winter days currently get to 16/17c and wben you come out of winter a bit sooner and not as cold/wet for a couple month? Your Winters are drier? Not tasted that Mexican fruit Guamuchil but hopefully one day?you don't have a Lucuma?
Our daytime temperature in late January can get to 17°C, however, the norm between December and January is about 10°C. Our weather generally warms up in March, with many of my trees sprouting new foliage in May.
We essentially have between May - November for the trees to grow and produce fruits.
I do not have a Lucuma, but will probably get one should I find it in a nursery.
@@TropicalCentralValley Some people in California Rare Fruit Group would have advanced plants for sure as a member has YTs of his fruiting and making icecream YUM - most cold tolerant Pouteria
I had seen Lucuma and other tropicals at various tropical nurseries, however I now regretted not getting them. I continue to keep an eye out for them.
@@TropicalCentralValley i had to import seed from Peru via eBay - is flowering now after 6y - flowers are very similar to Sapodilla - ive got both moist like a good ripe Canistel & dry for smoothies - one is from a New Zealand tree moist variety called Montalban - wasnt he a Peruvian King?
You should grow some Kratom trees there. Very nice trees.
Good video Bro
Kratom is actually illegal in parts of California, specifically the San Diego region.
@@TropicalCentralValley really? Thought it was not banned there....
It is protected by state legislation here.
Not sure why the ban. Then again, I’m not sure why the mangosteen was banned in the US until 2007.
Nice video; do you top dress or fertilize the ingas? I’m growing some in large containers in Michigan! I’m still trying to figure out what they like because there’s not a lot of growing info online for them
I do. I use organic fertilizer high in phosphorus and potassium, as the Inga is nitrogen fixing.
I’m not sure how they do with your cold, but mine seem to be fine now with USDA Zone 9b freezes.
Not sure if you’ve seen my other Inga video, but here it is: ua-cam.com/video/qGM4KA3HNjU/v-deo.html
@@TropicalCentralValley thanks for the reply. I’m growing mine indoors with grow lights and a grow tent. It will live outside for just 3-4 months during summer and fall here in zone 6. I got seeds from someone in Hawaii. Mine are about 2 feet tall currently
That’s awesome. Although they’re not meant for container growing, if given the proper sized container, they should be okay.
@@TropicalCentralValley I definitely need to put them in something even larger soon. They are in big fabric grow pots while they’re smaller but I learned from your video the root systems are massive 😅😅
Thanks for the video. I live in Long Beach CA. I just planted a 5 ft. Inga tree about 10 feet from my house and about 2 feet from the sidewalk, and about 5 ft from my water main. Should that be ok? Can I just keep the tree small with heavy pruning? I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you!
It should be fine. Unlike their native claimants, in your region, the tree is kept somewhat small due to the unfavorable environmental conditions.
I’ve since made an updated video covering the growing of Inga:
Growing Inga (Ice Cream Bean) Trees in 25°F - 115°F Climate
ua-cam.com/video/TbUnGRZL2LY/v-deo.html
@@TropicalCentralValley Thank you.
You’re very welcome.
You have any inga seedlings for sale … or ripe pods with seeds than can be germinated i would like to get 1
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals, including seeds.
If you’re nearing the Los Angeles area, there are a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the region.
Hey friend, question if the ice cream bean has such invasive roots why do you have a few by your side walk? Are you worried about the sidewalk or your utilities ?
The inspiration actually came from the City of Visalia. In my city, there is an ordnance that protects our massive and very old oak trees.
The ordnance strictly prohibits anyone and any entities from causing harm to the oak trees. People have actually been fined for harassing oak trees. Due to this, there’s a number of oak trees stuck in road dividers that are no larger than where I planted the two Inga trees.
The two Inga trees will likely never reach a quarter the size of their Amazon counterparts, due to our winter and dry summer heat. The Inga tree trunk in the Amazon rainforest can get to 2 feet in diameter and grow up to 100 feet in height.
I will be lucky to get a 25 feet Inga tree. Being on the smaller side, this keeps their root system maintained.
Good video, but aren't you worried the those inga edulis root system is going to lift your concrete sidewalk. There root system are massive.
Yes and no. My strategy is to train the trees to reach into my front yard for nutrients as it is most abundant there. Our winter frosts keeps the trees smaller than their Amazon counterparts.
Do you think the ice cream banana, or other fruiting bananas will do ok in low 30's temperatures? We have 28 to 30 degrees weeks in Northern California.
I also noticed dense orchard/forest you have. Did you have issues with temperatures when your orchard was not so dense? I'm thinking you have created a micro climate that protects some of these cold sensitive plants. I hope in wrong, I really want to replicate something similar to what you have done. Thank you
All of my banana plants are doing fine. My Ice Cream and Nam Wah banana plants are holding onto their banana fruits. I typically let the fruits ripen through winter and pick them in spring.
In the very beginning, many of my tropicals were knocked down severely as my microclimate was being established, however, they seem to be okay now that there are nearby trees protecting them.
More importantly than microclimate are the mycorrhizal network which all of my inground trees are connected to.
Do ever share or sell seeds.
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you’re near or are taking a trip to the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries there.
Guamuchil is originally from Mexico, Central America, and northern South America. I had a chance to plant one but decided not to because I think there are better fruit trees to plant. I have a Inga tree someone gave me in a small five gallon pot and the tree is about 10 feet tall, I am going to plant it in a 45 gallon pot. hopefully it will fruit in a pot that big. The person who gave it to me was not impressed with the taste of the fruit. I am hoping to taste it myself to see if I like the fruit. My main concern is how evasive the Inga is and even if I like the fruit I may not keep it. I have a regular Tamarind that is maybe 13 feet high and never has fruited do you or one of your followers know anything about how to make a Tamarind flower and fruit?
As the tamarind is a long lived tree, from the description of your tree, if grown from seed, it’ll take a while before it will bear fruits, likely 8 years.
Do you sell any Paw Paw or Mango trees? I live in Fresno.
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. There’s actually a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the Los Angeles region.
@@TropicalCentralValley Do you recommend any? I heard Belmont may order some for sale this year.
My go to places are Mimosa, Champa and Emily nurseries in the Los Angeles area.
Our local “nurseries”, including Belmont Nursery for some reason dare not sell tropicals. I’ve seen Lowe’s and Home Depot carry more selections of tropical fruit trees than our local nurseries.
The sad truth is, our local nurseries count hibiscus and jade plants as being “tropical“. On rare occasions, they may carry a pineapple guava.
@@TropicalCentralValley You are right. The local nurseries are only interested in selling things like azaleas. Boring.....
I remember going to a local nursery in Visalia and asking if they had any papaya trees. Their response was that our winter will kill them.
To be fair, they aren’t entirely wrong. Our winter remains the biggest enemy when it comes to the growing of tropicals.
The core message of my videos is to show the good and the bad, hence my “Growing XXXX in Cold Climate” series of videos showing the worst case scenario for tropicals that I have growing through numerous winters.
We see between 22 and 19 on Saturday....
YUCK
22°C and 19°C (72°F / 66°F), that's our summer time lows. Four more months to go for us until we reach those night time temperature.
@@TropicalCentralValley 22°F
@@thedomestead3546 🥶💀
Ouch. Though you were referring to Celsius.
@@Toomuchbullshitt bananas are back to the ground for sure