If its sharp enough you usually do better by hard braking to initiate rotation, but if its not sharp enough to need to brake then you usually dont need to drift. You're probably right but its very rare that drifting is faster than not.
This depends on the corner, but is true a lot of the time. Sometimes you want to carry as much speed as possible on a turn because other will slow down there andlose time but you reach the corner first
A tactic i think is good is focus on the longer straight. Brake onto a higher speed section early but late for a slower speed section. This might not work but overtakes are easier at a higher speed section. Also try to brake early when on the outside incase they go for a dive bomb or out brake themself.
I'm trying to learn the concept of steering with the rear wheels. I find it really difficult. I either go straight or sliding like the guy in this clip
Technically it all depends on just how tight and long the corner is, if it’s a 180° that’s really short, hard braking to initiate a “drift” is way faster than going slow around the same corner. And then on the contrary a long 180° corner (like in the video) requires you to be smooth and precise in your turning to conserve speed, whereas drifting in that situation would lose you a lot of time. it’s really just about finding the right way to corner dependant on the type of corner, only using 1 cornering method will not work for every corner, especially not in karting where maintaining speed is of the utmost importance. On an important note i’m not saying drifting is good, it loses you time, i’m saying hard braking to initiate rotation, similar to a drift but not actually, initiating rotation just means getting the kart spun quicker than just slowly turning, can gain you time on really short corners.
unless u nees to plan for the next 2~3 thight corner My local track last 2 corners are crucial, like a shape of square off small letter b withreally tight hair pin Get as much speed from the straight, flick it into a drift , try to get as far left from before taking the hair pin try to get the parabolic cornering at maxspeed , 80% of driver didn't know how to link up these 2 turns and ended up going wide when exiting the hairpin If they could link up everything, they can link the hairpin with the 1st and 2nd turn without edjusting the steering on perfect line No brakes link multiple turns into 1 massive smooth corner
The thing about karts, specially the low power ones, is that the fastest way always is by maintaining the most momentum possible, this can be obtained by rotating the kart before a corner and accelerating before the apex, it needs a lot of technique to be done properly and when someone is starting and tries it out, they usually go wide and start to drift because of the countersteer. In karting, oversteering is fast, but it needs to be controlled. Rotating and drifting is different.
What? Drifting makes cornering speed worse, but sometimes in extremely tight turns can help to slide little bit on the entry for faster acceleration. Only on the entry tho, there are no tracks where drifting is faster on the exit
except for 2 stroke. 9 year old me setting personal fl while mastering countersteering on 60cc lke engine tonykart. i slided along some corners and helped me forcing the kart into my trajectories.
yeah sliding in the entry gives you more rotation and speed to carry, while sliding after the apex makes you lose traction in the exit and makes you go really slower
Slip angle is the best (Depends) But it is good to get the kart to slide not to much though. And if you don’t get a slip angle then you might understere -------(Againdepending)
doesn’t really apply to karting but when driving on low-friction surfaces like wet asphalt or dirt, drifting can be the fastest way around a corner. Drifting actually arrived from rally driving. This guy’s right tho about any normal go kart track
I am fat so the only way to beat the track record was driving without brake not to loose speed. There are also two ways of drifting. #1 for Show, that's what most people do with lack of expirience. #2 to carrying as much speed as possible into & out of a corner. Slow in, fast out is only for beginners or track owners because he hate to buy expensive tyres.
In pro karting u want to flick it in to a corner and keep the wheel straight going round. The flick will get u pointed in the right direction to go round and the u only have to do a few very small corrections. I know this cus I watched super gt. Watch him too😊😊😊
What you want to tell is that you pass the corners slowly. Karts have weak engines and acceleration would be very slow out. During the drift you use the momentum you've gained to sustain the drift and then gain it.
I’m sorry but this is not initial D. Drifting is very slow in rental karting as you lose all momentum and revs in the kart, it is much quicker to drive smoothly through the corner with minimal sliding.
If you can balance the drift without spinning out, i believe its faster to cornering. Weight transfer concept. Exit speed can be improved if drifting is done right without oversteering
But i remember an interview from i dont remember who, but they definitely f1 driver. Maybe George or even Alex. They basically said in karting, when turnz you just slightly drift so you dont need to break and you have sharper angle to turn
I just resort to the setup. Nail it down so that it feels loose but is actually pretty hard to spin out. The center of the corner usually sucks for me but it hooks up on entry and exit 😂
What do I do if the straight aways are not very long. So I hope to the RPM in the Destiny USA mall and I see that these straight aways are very long, but uf you look at the track map, it's hard to get that lap time back if you immediately have to go into another corner. There are oy a few corners this video apllys to i have come to find out. How would I gain lap time if I can't have enough time to gain that lap time back? Thanks
I feel more if you get 2 to 5 hops it scrubs enough and still has a bit more speed through. Track I go to if u went bye this your get maybe 22.5 only way I've been able to get 22.1 when milking it tomuch hops and it's bad .
Went to an indoor place which allegedly has the worlds largest indoor track(s) the one had this banked open oval leading into a downhill spiral. Finally managed to get clear air and used the boost, had so much fkn speed I went down in continuous drift. I heard the steward say something after, I thought he was complimenting my swag until I enter the next hairpin and I see the dude behind me slam backwards into the wall. Fkn shit show that place was every driver was either Helen Keller or a NASCAR driver who isn’t fast just closes every window.
Some truth to this but I lock my breaks up to rotate the kart and it turns the kart so much faster than “not drifting”, u can drift, you just have to know how
I’d probably still step it out on that corner just to get the car turned more quickly, carry more speed than you’re comfortable with (would blow the corner if you didn’t slide) and just commit like hell, stay hard in the throttle
Drifting is a different sport to KARTING
Yeah but I went to 1st place when drifting
@@Bodycamenjoyer because the people you were up against were bad.
@@Bodycamenjoyerjust cuz ur opponents sucked dont mean ur good
okay god damn it’s been 2 months bro I was tired as hell
@@tasha6934bro what if the people the guy in the video was going against we’re just bad at drifting
I happened to go on a track, where drifting was the best way to get the best lap time out of final corner.
(It's an interior track)
If its sharp enough you usually do better by hard braking to initiate rotation, but if its not sharp enough to need to brake then you usually dont need to drift. You're probably right but its very rare that drifting is faster than not.
@@Xaiborg If the timing line is close enough then drifting can be faster (lap time wise”
@@Xaiborg that's because full on sideways drifting is meant to take us around the corner slower than ideal 😂.
Rotation and drifting are different
I have been to somewhere like that, it was called slideways gold coast. 3 levels and a small outdoor section. Tons of fun
Physics in karting does not let u win while deja vu-ing in races
Remember, drifting will be only faster if you have eurobeat in background🗣🗣🗣
i wont sugarcoat it
star + shell + boomerang (i love ice toad)
You tellin' me I played all of that Mario Kart for nothing?
yup
@@ryfyyt171 well darn :(
😂 that was funny
Yeah. Now start playing Gran Turismo
@@trmbneBetter yet: rFactor 2005
Drifting allows you to gain mini turbos so its actually better!! (Bikes are better than karts since you can wheelie!!)
fr drifting is op bro just has a skill issue
Just simply NO! to your bike BS. Cornering i am on your side but NO to your bikes ;D
This also depends on the surface used, wood or smooth cement floors actually benefit from you throwing the back out to get round a corner
Thats a rotation not a drift
thats power slide not drift
You throwing what?
This is called slip angle. You're not throwing out the back, but you're letting it slide freely.
Blew my mind a bit when I first heard someone with a lot more experience than me say “use your brake, braking is faster than drifting.”
Also most electric indoor carts immediatly throttle down the power when you start to drift so you lose even more time!
Tell that to RC drifters.
Most gas karts bog down too much too so you lose a lot of speed
@HaloHamstur especially the single speed ones, but a little bit of slide angle isn't too bad
This depends on the corner, but is true a lot of the time. Sometimes you want to carry as much speed as possible on a turn because other will slow down there andlose time but you reach the corner first
This is very helpful and all for races but you can’t get rid of the satisfaction of drifting
A tactic i think is good is focus on the longer straight.
Brake onto a higher speed section early but late for a slower speed section.
This might not work but overtakes are easier at a higher speed section. Also try to brake early when on the outside incase they go for a dive bomb or out brake themself.
Did 5 awesome drifts in go cart 10 minutes ago and I feel happy
Same same.
Ive played too many kart racers, i already know you get a turbo booster after a drift.
if you drift ,drift entering and exit at half of the angle so you get your car lined up enough to not loose speed
I'm trying to learn the concept of steering with the rear wheels. I find it really difficult. I either go straight or sliding like the guy in this clip
How about slow down a bit
@@spritgmezer301 I'll give it a try when i can kart again
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Technically it all depends on just how tight and long the corner is, if it’s a 180° that’s really short, hard braking to initiate a “drift” is way faster than going slow around the same corner. And then on the contrary a long 180° corner (like in the video) requires you to be smooth and precise in your turning to conserve speed, whereas drifting in that situation would lose you a lot of time.
it’s really just about finding the right way to corner dependant on the type of corner, only using 1 cornering method will not work for every corner, especially not in karting where maintaining speed is of the utmost importance.
On an important note i’m not saying drifting is good, it loses you time, i’m saying hard braking to initiate rotation, similar to a drift but not actually, initiating rotation just means getting the kart spun quicker than just slowly turning, can gain you time on really short corners.
I searched up how to drift well in mariokart and this came up
unless u nees to plan for the next 2~3 thight corner
My local track last 2 corners are crucial, like a shape of square off small letter b withreally tight hair pin
Get as much speed from the straight, flick it into a drift , try to get as far left from before taking the hair pin try to get the parabolic cornering at maxspeed , 80% of driver didn't know how to link up these 2 turns and ended up going wide when exiting the hairpin
If they could link up everything, they can link the hairpin with the 1st and 2nd turn without edjusting the steering on perfect line
No brakes link multiple turns into 1 massive smooth corner
The thing about karts, specially the low power ones, is that the fastest way always is by maintaining the most momentum possible, this can be obtained by rotating the kart before a corner and accelerating before the apex, it needs a lot of technique to be done properly and when someone is starting and tries it out, they usually go wide and start to drift because of the countersteer. In karting, oversteering is fast, but it needs to be controlled. Rotating and drifting is different.
On some turn drift does help to maintain Apex speed, since it's a go kart you don't lose too much momentum
Ur right but i think it depends on the corner how hard ur drifting too
What? Drifting makes cornering speed worse, but sometimes in extremely tight turns can help to slide little bit on the entry for faster acceleration. Only on the entry tho, there are no tracks where drifting is faster on the exit
KTips, awesome content you deserve more views
except for 2 stroke. 9 year old me setting personal fl while mastering countersteering on 60cc lke engine tonykart. i slided along some corners and helped me forcing the kart into my trajectories.
Only if I slide on the entry, any sliding past the apex / at the apex is bad
yeah sliding in the entry gives you more rotation and speed to carry, while sliding after the apex makes you lose traction in the exit and makes you go really slower
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No one drifts for speed, they drift for fun.
Slow in and fast out works better with a low-angle four wheel slip, remember this folks.
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That is dependant on the length of the straight after the corner. In the case of a long straight, then your tip makes sense
Slip angle is the best (Depends) But it is good to get the kart to slide not to much though. And if you don’t get a slip angle then you might understere -------(Againdepending)
doesn’t really apply to karting but when driving on low-friction surfaces like wet asphalt or dirt, drifting can be the fastest way around a corner. Drifting actually arrived from rally driving. This guy’s right tho about any normal go kart track
I am fat so the only way to beat the track record was driving without brake not to loose speed. There are also two ways of drifting. #1 for Show, that's what most people do with lack of expirience. #2 to carrying as much speed as possible into & out of a corner. Slow in, fast out is only for beginners or track owners because he hate to buy expensive tyres.
Ya, I am master of “slow in, fast out” too. 😏
I’ll see if this helps when I go karting tomorrow
So smooooth 😎👍🏾🏎️💨
Is it actually easier to know irl whether you can take that corner without oversteer compared to sim racing?
In pro karting u want to flick it in to a corner and keep the wheel straight going round. The flick will get u pointed in the right direction to go round and the u only have to do a few very small corrections. I know this cus I watched super gt. Watch him too😊😊😊
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He is on another level of drifting.
@@samyakchhajedis it one that defies the laws of physics
He literally gave the middle finger to physics 💀
now everyone knows that you can make up the lost time by drifting with the mini turbo that charged up..
Wow something that millions of people already knew. When it comes to racing. Regardless of the vehicle / animal
That’s not what Keiichi teaches us
What you want to tell is that you pass the corners slowly. Karts have weak engines and acceleration would be very slow out. During the drift you use the momentum you've gained to sustain the drift and then gain it.
I’m sorry but this is not initial D. Drifting is very slow in rental karting as you lose all momentum and revs in the kart, it is much quicker to drive smoothly through the corner with minimal sliding.
Youre telling me friction cause loss of speed? Man i wish i knew this years ago.
I use this trick everytime in Indy,art racway when you go into the turn closer to the inside you have less track to cover
Nah, Mario Kart teaches that if you drift you get a miniturbo
Good advice
If you can balance the drift without spinning out, i believe its faster to cornering. Weight transfer concept.
Exit speed can be improved if drifting is done right without oversteering
Weight Transfer is negligible with a kart, they're so light and the suspension if it even has one would have very little travel distance.
essentially you need to get the apex, as closer as possible to the corner of the turn
Good advice bro!
I would forget everything in so many storage bins
But i remember an interview from i dont remember who, but they definitely f1 driver. Maybe George or even Alex. They basically said in karting, when turnz you just slightly drift so you dont need to break and you have sharper angle to turn
So I can't do it like Mario Kart or Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing?
Ehh, it figures.
Slow in and after turning the steering apply full speed and control your go kart
Drifting is only fast when you know what drifting is(Most people call power sliding drifting) and how to initiate one without losing momentum
I just resort to the setup. Nail it down so that it feels loose but is actually pretty hard to spin out. The center of the corner usually sucks for me but it hooks up on entry and exit 😂
If someone has tips lmk
In rental karts maybe😑, but in race karts going in sideways is the best, atleast for hairpins.
To add to this, you SHOULD be able to DRIFT a LITTLE using your THROTTLE to MAXIMIZE the speed you take into the corner.
Woah, I never thought of that
Yea when ı was racing at the 3rd time ı forgot to brake at the corner my back left tyre slipt then ı crashed at the tree.
"How ever if you drift to much" like bro that is called throttle control.
You should master that or don't drift
Suddenly I understand why my dad told me to “finish all your breaking before the turn” before I began my first race
In lower hp classes and rentals thats true. In higher power karts with you can trail the brake almost to the apex
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Oversteer is faster.
Pointing the nose is faster is wide corners. Oversteer is faster in sharp ones
I just drift when I am driving for fun, but when Its seriously, than I make like you said.
i use this technique in Gran Turismo 5, it works
In the end it don't matter if the karts don't even go fast enough to drift.
What do I do if the straight aways are not very long. So I hope to the RPM in the Destiny USA mall and I see that these straight aways are very long, but uf you look at the track map, it's hard to get that lap time back if you immediately have to go into another corner. There are oy a few corners this video apllys to i have come to find out. How would I gain lap time if I can't have enough time to gain that lap time back? Thanks
Most tracks, actually almost all tracks in my country are very thin, so doing something like this is impossible :D but in a real track yeah of course
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I like fast in and fast out
its fun to do at a high speed corner with spectators in front just send it and try to stay in first 😂
you need to loose a bit of rear to have a better cornering angle sometimes
atleast i can get more style points
Thanks!
drifting can work but not in lower power karts. the problem is that there just isn't enough power to make the really sticky tires slip
I feel more if you get 2 to 5 hops it scrubs enough and still has a bit more speed through. Track I go to if u went bye this your get maybe 22.5 only way I've been able to get 22.1 when milking it tomuch hops and it's bad .
Last in first out always
I just drift because its fun 😂
Nah imma drift deja vu!!!!!
Went to an indoor place which allegedly has the worlds largest indoor track(s) the one had this banked open oval leading into a downhill spiral. Finally managed to get clear air and used the boost, had so much fkn speed I went down in continuous drift. I heard the steward say something after, I thought he was complimenting my swag until I enter the next hairpin and I see the dude behind me slam backwards into the wall. Fkn shit show that place was every driver was either Helen Keller or a NASCAR driver who isn’t fast just closes every window.
Is it wrong that I drift into really sharp hairpins but when ever it’s like a normal corner I just use grip driving?
if done right it can be faster, i do it all the time and my lap times are way faster than when i just grip
@kartingtips I wanted to know when do you brake and how much brake pressure
What if you combine both ways? 🤔
Some truth to this but I lock my breaks up to rotate the kart and it turns the kart so much faster than “not drifting”, u can drift, you just have to know how
for me i drift when i feel like it cuz i’m feeling it
But drifting in a Kart is so amusing so i'll still do it
What about four wheel drifting? (zero counter steer)
Using this in racing games lol
Here in Pakistan, I don’t do go karting for racing, I just drift there like a fkin Tokyo drift geek
Is it possible to get u to make an “optimal” racing line for this villagio track?
Check out the Villagio Karting Track guide where I explained the best racing line!
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@@kartingtips thank you 🙏
or what i call use your rear wheels to turn
many pro uses their rear wheels in karting to turn its fucking awesome
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Can you show us slip angle in karting?
I’d probably still step it out on that corner just to get the car turned more quickly, carry more speed than you’re comfortable with (would blow the corner if you didn’t slide) and just commit like hell, stay hard in the throttle
How else will you get a purple mini turbo
idk why but this video taught me how to drift in roblox💀
Bro today i was drifting so much today and it was fun asf i wasnt doing it for the race i was doing it for fun
I WANT TO GO KARTING SO BAD😭
Penalty, you're off the track