Added twist I do is make sure my inside blade of forearm is placed at the base of the kneecap. An added scooping motion to the kneecap gives an additional submission opportunity. Have gotton subs from this addition alone.
Great breakdown! I wish there was a 10th planet or just a BJJ school here in San Angelo, tx. I need to get in shape and do it in a positive environment like this
If there's no school and you have a friend who wants to learn as bad as you, pick up some instructional DVDs and practice and practice and practice with your buddy. That's how I came up before moving somewhere that had a good academy. Eddie Bravo has a whole set about the lock down, butterfly and rubber guard. I highly recommend it.
in regards to 0:35 Eddie's said before that the first thing he does to try to tap black belt's he hasn't rolled with before is the electric chair. I think he figured if he got an electric chair it would be an easy win, and you can move on from there to a twister anyways so... it works i guess.
Always , I always try to pick up 10th planet stuff plus tradition Jui Jitsu as it really is the only way to keep evolving . I have never understood the great divide between what 10th Planet are doing for the sport and what the tradition jiu jitsu is doing . At a purple belt level i am still very much putting my game together and loving using the lockdown to transition into X guard and vice versa ,Enjoy guys
The electric chair is actually not very complicated. I mean that the transition is such a natural move. I don't understand why the Gracie who spent all their lifetime on the mat, didn't find it by themselves.
You don’t have to undo the lockdown when you roll for the vaporizer You keep letting go of the figure 4 or lockdown when you roll you go for the vaporizer. It’s safer to keep it locked and roll so the opponent doesn’t slip out
I think the point or undoing the lockdown for the rolling vaporizer was so he could use that leg to guarantee the roll. You can see he pushes off with that right leg. Maybe you're right he should've rolled with lockdown intact, but he also couldve just reached back for the vaporizer. All in all i reckon it was just for a sexier transition which i approve.
Great demo. I have been watching the top stoner control to vaporizer roll but seemed my legs wouldn't adjust. Saw ur vid. Is the key to let loose or unhook one leg?
mathew marcus Years ago Sakuraba put Royler in a Kimura. If you watch, he's got that thing cinched in pretty deep, but still didn't tap even though the ref stopped the bout. The dude is a tap or snap, pass out kind of guy.
6:16 that roll to twister.. i dont think it works, maybe i dont get something here. but i tried this and the lockdown is on the wrong side and its easy for other person to turn and escape..
Yea it was kinda weird advice not to go for the electric chair when the knee is in. I play ec all the time and that’s where it’s at 99% and Eddie even does it specifically in the match this guy is referencing. Just need to tuck your head tight in so they can’t cross face, which will also prevent that little armbar
this is actually funny. I wish that Eddie would comment on this video. there is no submission to the groin unless you are grappling the most un fit human being alive. the submission that he is supposed to perform is on the knee. the opponents leg stays firm against your neck and you apply the pressure to the knee. look at EDDIES video
Jason, you are incorrect. The Electric Chair submission is a groin stretch. Please research before criticizing. Refer to this video from Eddie's Mastering the Rubber Guard DVD ua-cam.com/video/n2MkDFzOgRo/v-deo.html
What's actually funny is that Eddie specifically says " sometimes you can get the tap here if he's not flexible"... Dude you can't even watch videos correctly, which tells me you don't TRAIN. Youre a UA-cam bjj artist, the worst kind. Clearly you know NOTHING, if you've ever rolled before you'd know most males would tap to a deep electric chair. You bum. Go watch wwe or something, maybe you can tell us how to do a proper "F5". Loser.
you cannot roll for a twister like that ... off of the electric chair with your legs still in lockdown i mean. the legs are all wrong that's not the truck.
i have tried it. I've been playing tenth planet since 2008. i am an amateur mma fighter and won my first fight via rubberguard main path. i am not a stranger to this technique. i'm maintaining that you cannot reliably do a twister that way... not on anyone with any grappling ability anyway...the legs are not secure people will burst right out of that particular leg configuration.
Tim Babyok sounds like you've been doing it almost as long as me 😉. I'm sorry that you may not be able to do this technique but the fact remains that it still works. I've been doing it since 2006 🙂
Tim Babyok here's a vid of me hitting a gogoplata from rubber guard back in 2007 since we're dick measuring how long we've been doing 10th planet techniques. ua-cam.com/video/_qP5BCSBo7k/v-deo.html
Jiu Jitsu is such a beautiful science.
The science of hand to hand murder
Just had this pop up in my recommendations. I watched this as a white belt, I'm a 3 stripe brown belt now. Thanks for the knowledge
Second guys face was priceless after vaporizer, rubbing his leg like omg that was horrifying
+2222MUDDYWATERS Haha, he's like, "Nah. Fuck that. Nah."
damn eddie’s a genius!
Lol the title of this video just shows how much of a legend Eddie bravo is.
Excellent demo. Post more videos.
Added twist I do is make sure my inside blade of forearm is placed at the base of the kneecap. An added scooping motion to the kneecap gives an additional submission opportunity. Have gotton subs from this addition alone.
Great breakdown! I wish there was a 10th planet or just a BJJ school here in San Angelo, tx. I need to get in shape and do it in a positive environment like this
texas has some great schools though bro. i'm in oklahoma and i'm sad cuz every good school besides lavatos is in texas lol
If you go on the 10th Planet site there is a group of guys in San Angelo who train 10PJJ techniques.
If there's no school and you have a friend who wants to learn as bad as you, pick up some instructional DVDs and practice and practice and practice with your buddy. That's how I came up before moving somewhere that had a good academy. Eddie Bravo has a whole set about the lock down, butterfly and rubber guard. I highly recommend it.
This is fucking beautiful.
in regards to 0:35
Eddie's said before that the first thing he does to try to tap black belt's he hasn't rolled with before is the electric chair. I think he figured if he got an electric chair it would be an easy win, and you can move on from there to a twister anyways so... it works i guess.
That's one of Eddie's songs called "Dropped"
there's a crouch ripper/banana split there as you're rolling into the twister, if you're able to catch the free leg. good stuff
Crazy that this was the first sweep I learnt from half
If he's able to get that 'armbar' while you're underhooking his leg, then you aren't hugging his leg deep enough for the electric underhooks
Totally agree
i think he was just trying to say hey watch out for it.
@@jiujitsyou1584I agree with him
don't think i've seen the eletric chair into the twister like that. i'm gonna try that.
watches whole video. only tries quick little armbar
at 3:51 if you don't get the tap let him slide his leg through until you can get the ankle lock. Works like a charm.
could you elaborate that please?
Second day in class and I was shown this move, sweet.
thanks for that , Nice moves and something defiantly worth incorporating into my game
+Guy Goodwin stay defiant my friend
Always , I always try to pick up 10th planet stuff plus tradition Jui Jitsu as it really is the only way to keep evolving . I have never understood the great divide between what 10th Planet are doing for the sport and what the tradition jiu jitsu is doing . At a purple belt level i am still very much putting my game together and loving using the lockdown to transition into X guard and vice versa ,Enjoy guys
Can someone translate 5:20 to 5:50? I don't understand 😭 help!!
Help me!!!!!!
If is it Banana Split doesn't work I'm going straight into vaporizer
The vaporizer. 10th planet techniques son
The electric chair is actually not very complicated. I mean that the transition is such a natural move. I don't understand why the Gracie who spent all their lifetime on the mat, didn't find it by themselves.
This hurts like a bastard! Lol. Got caught once in this and it works well😂
Sources say that Eddie is watching this video super high in stoner control
Ty
Like this move, although Eddie needs to chill with the music haha. God that's bad
You don’t have to undo the lockdown when you roll for the vaporizer
You keep letting go of the figure 4 or lockdown when you roll you go for the vaporizer.
It’s safer to keep it locked and roll so the opponent doesn’t slip out
I think the point or undoing the lockdown for the rolling vaporizer was so he could use that leg to guarantee the roll. You can see he pushes off with that right leg. Maybe you're right he should've rolled with lockdown intact, but he also couldve just reached back for the vaporizer. All in all i reckon it was just for a sexier transition which i approve.
Amazing!
Great demo. I have been watching the top stoner control to vaporizer roll but seemed my legs wouldn't adjust. Saw ur vid. Is the key to let loose or unhook one leg?
lol "2:17" I use to think that too when I got it but...things got harder you know
you look like war machine
C rap sound guys holding you back.you need gates on the mics
Oss
#boom #Oss 🙌🏾💪🏾
how did royler not tap in that shit?
Mad flexibility. That's about all that saved him in the electric chair.
mathew marcus Years ago Sakuraba put Royler in a Kimura. If you watch, he's got that thing cinched in pretty deep, but still didn't tap even though the ref stopped the bout. The dude is a tap or snap, pass out kind of guy.
+Jake Tompkins it was the vaporizer that endangered him, the electric chair was nothing for Royer, he is way to flexible for it.
CJ Crissman and a knee that was pretty fucked up and popped in and out normally.
He was grabbing eddies gi pant. Alleviated a lot of pressure. Had he not done that, eddie would have stomped and broke his leg in half
Why doesnt this work in competition?
6:16 that roll to twister.. i dont think it works, maybe i dont get something here. but i tried this and the lockdown is on the wrong side and its easy for other person to turn and escape..
2 years later, did you get it to work? It really does, the lockdown is just not as important with the roll, hip control is key
lol "expodentially"
Lincoln White lol I'm glad you caught that
I am not an English major and I am guilty of sometimes adding my own words 😁😂
what if his leg doesnt come up for the electric underhook, you had to ask him to step it up. what is the attack then?
You can still get the EC sweep with the knee down...
Or you can do the old school
Yea it was kinda weird advice not to go for the electric chair when the knee is in. I play ec all the time and that’s where it’s at 99% and Eddie even does it specifically in the match this guy is referencing. Just need to tuck your head tight in so they can’t cross face, which will also prevent that little armbar
very nice thanks for this breakdown
"Expidentially"?
Expediently ™
exponentially
Great video!
What's the song at the intro?
It is called "Dropped" and it is by Eddie Bravo
I was looking for the song myself, good song.
this is actually funny. I wish that Eddie would comment on this video. there is no submission to the groin unless you are grappling the most un fit human being alive. the submission that he is supposed to perform is on the knee. the opponents leg stays firm against your neck and you apply the pressure to the knee. look at EDDIES video
Jason, you are incorrect. The Electric Chair submission is a groin stretch. Please research before criticizing. Refer to this video from Eddie's Mastering the Rubber Guard DVD ua-cam.com/video/n2MkDFzOgRo/v-deo.html
fail
guy learns jitz from dvd and presumes to know....wrophle
What's actually funny is that Eddie specifically says " sometimes you can get the tap here if he's not flexible"... Dude you can't even watch videos correctly, which tells me you don't TRAIN. Youre a UA-cam bjj artist, the worst kind. Clearly you know NOTHING, if you've ever rolled before you'd know most males would tap to a deep electric chair. You bum. Go watch wwe or something, maybe you can tell us how to do a proper "F5". Loser.
you'd don't have to roll you just grab the foot
@ 25:17 you can see an adult male bigfoot in the background.
you cannot roll for a twister like that ... off of the electric chair with your legs still in lockdown i mean. the legs are all wrong that's not the truck.
Tim Babyok you actually can. Try it. I've done it many times.
i have tried it. I've been playing tenth planet since 2008. i am an amateur mma fighter and won my first fight via rubberguard main path. i am not a stranger to this technique. i'm maintaining that you cannot reliably do a twister that way... not on anyone with any grappling ability anyway...the legs are not secure people will burst right out of that particular leg configuration.
Tim Babyok sounds like you've been doing it almost as long as me 😉. I'm sorry that you may not be able to do this technique but the fact remains that it still works. I've been doing it since 2006 🙂
yeah ok man... because your whip up and electric hooks look totally proper to....
Tim Babyok here's a vid of me hitting a gogoplata from rubber guard back in 2007 since we're dick measuring how long we've been doing 10th planet techniques. ua-cam.com/video/_qP5BCSBo7k/v-deo.html