Microneedling | how to microneedle at home with Dr. Pen | esthetician does microneedling
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2021
- Welcome back to QueHeidi! I am a licensed beauty professional with a focus on skincare and lash extensions. I run my own solo practice in sunny Florida.
In this video, I am doing a micro-needling tutorial at home on myself to show what I like to do. I am a professional so please make sure you consult with your medspa esthetician. I am a licensed professional but I do not offer this on my menu for my personal clients due to my state's regulations on needle depth allowed without a doctor's oversight.
However, I do plan on adding nano channeling into my esthetician business starting in January 2022.
Please note: The needles I am using are not as invasive as others. There are different types of needling heads for different reasons. I am not being too aggressive because it has been a while since I've done this treatment I like to start gentle and work my way up with each session.
I have suffered from cystic acne in the past for several years and it wasn't until I wanted to go to school and do this for a living is when I was able to get my skin under control. I love the skin I'm in and strive to take care of her.
I only hope to share valuable information with consumers, other beauty professionals and have fun on this new UA-cam journey.
Please feel free to connect with me and leave a comment below.
~xoxo
Heidi
Below are some products that I used in the video:
Dr. Pen
For Pro 4x4 lint-free cotton pads
Cos De Baha Hylauronic Serum
Circadia Vitamin C Serum
Skinscript Aloe Moisturizer
Yes you should do a series 💗
Will do another one probably in a couple weeks with a little bit more invasiveness.
:)
Yessss do a series!!!❤
Thank you!! I finally understand without watching for 15 mins. I appreciate your time. I know this is not that easy to film & put it all together. You have beautiful skin. You look like your 20. :)
Haha thank you I am way older than that!
This was such a great, helpful, and informative video. Thank you for being real! And thank you for being awesome! I'm just now beginning my skincare journey to naturally help heal the deep acne cars I have. I'm new to this stuff and I appreciate your realness! Would love to see a series!
Hey girl and yes trying to bust these skin myths and bad info. out there. Skin is skin I have seen lots of it and trust me no one is perfect. If they are perfect they still aren't happy. Stay tuned I have more stuff upcoming just going through some life changes at the moment.
Hi! I’m curious have you tried this? And what were your results?
Thank you this was super helpful. Can’t wait to try!! ❤
So glad!
I appreciate your video very much! You’re the first person I’ve seen on UA-cam that doesn’t have ‘perfect skin’ and your using this device. That’s incredibly helpful, to see someone w/similar, textured skin(even though yours isn’t very noticeable.) I keep coming across videos of people using this device and their skin seems too perfect and it’s not helpful. I’m looking for someone who actually has some sort of skin issues that they’re are trying to correct with this and that’s why I will follow you to see what your results are. I’ve done one treatment on myself so far. Hoping you achieve your desired results & that you keep it up! Definitely can’t be easy making these videos!
Thank you I really appreciate this comment and yes I actually feel the same way too not too many people out there showing the "honest" skin. Trust me from all of the clients ive had worked on face and body the amount of perfection we think we come across does not exist. Good luck on your skin journey
Very well done and informational thanks
You are very welcome! There is an updated version out now please go and check it out. :)
❤❤❤❤ will be doing this thanks boo
You are welcome
I'm so glad I found your channel; very informative learned alot from this vid. Can you use a numbing cream on the prior to microneedling? And yes, do a before and after, also can you do a video showing a hydrofacial machine?
Yes you can use a numbing cream. I am personally used to it so opt out of any excess chemicals if I can. The needles in this video are not aggressive so I think most would be able to handle it. The lower the needle count the more aggressive and likely you'll need numbing cream. Also a big yes to the machine. Im working on a few videos as we speak so stay tuned.
Found exactly what I was looking for.
I'm glad I found your channel. I noticed it about a week ago and meant to watch this video. So I'm glad it came up in my recommendations again. I've heard about how microneedling can help produce collagen and help with stretch marks. I've lost quite a bit of weight so I've wondered if it could help with loose skin on the face and arms? So I've been watching a number of videos about both microneedling and nanoneedling.
It will definitely help make the skin appear tighter and refine it, but everyone skin is different especially on the body. Depending on how extensive the stretch marks and loose skin are it can take many sessions for it to get it the way you want. Even then it will not be 100%.
The best way to help first to determine how much loose skin there actually is would be to start a weight training routine. This is just based on my own observation. Many people who have loose skin and then weight train will actually benefit and have a reduced appearance. The combination could also help improve loose skin and stretch marks.
@@Heidisspalife yes I definitely believe lifting weight is helpful to the body, muscles and skin. So I completely agree with you on that. And I can see how it can take a while to see results from microneedling. Thank you for your response. I appreciate it.
Thank you for this informative video. I think I’ll wait until I’ve been off prednisone for a while before doing my first micro needle
Yes make sure your off of that first. You might want to start with nano first 🙋🏽♀️
Sweet! Thanks
Thank you for this...BTW you have a really lovely voice.x
haha thanx for the compliment never thought of it that way
Loving your videos - Could you do one on doing your own extraction (next time you have a breakout)? 💕
Yes I will try to once I get a pimple one of these days. I honestly use my hydro derma machine I think that is what is really just keeping my pores clean.
THANK YOU
Thank you for the Info btw :)
Just subscribed ❤️. Can I micro needle 🪡 in between micro needling bb glow in ?
Omg, watching you microneedling your lips without numbing cream! I numb everything and the lips are still brutal for me. I need your pain tolerance! 😂 Thank you for this video 🩷🩷
I am so used to it now I feel nothing which is a side affect
If you want to upgrade try the Derminator 2. It is a MUCH better machine, uses different technology and doesn’t really hurt. It’s just a little uncomfortable. I’ve never even thought about using numbing cream with this machine. Best investment ever!
Thanx for the recommendation I will look into it ☺@@tajr.2650
Nice video thanks! How does the pen not tear skin when you drag it around skin and it’s pulsing up and down? I would have thought on the downstrokes it could tear if you move
Just subscribed! Would love to see a series!
Thank you and yes girl I am working on it my face is peeling as we speak lol
Hi Que, can you share where did you get the Drpen? I noticed a lot of websites and not sure which one to choose from. I have deep boxcar acne scars on cheeks and also deciding between A6 and X5. I watched in penny’s video that X5 has larger gauge so it would be better for acne scar. What do you think? Thank you
I ordered it directly from the Dr. Pen website. Hope this helps
@@Heidisspalife Which website its that?
@@Unikkatil_97 drpen-usa.com
I think this the best way ima learn hands on 😂lol
Great demonstration Heidi! Helped me A LOT!
Did your acne scars diminish over time? Thanks!
Mine did diminish but it is not perfect skin I would say. It is definitely not a cure all.
Very useful !
Thabk you so much
It may possible that you teach us for body strech marks?
Thank you so much in advance...good work uwu
Yes of course there are so many other needle heads to work with.
Thank you for the video 😊 I am an RN so I learn pretty quickly. I am in the process of researching. I see that you are using hyaluronic acid for glide and I keep reading it’s good for the skin. Is there anything else that can be used that you suggest as I tried the hyaluronic from the ordinary and I felt it made my skin dry 🫣 so I returned and it was put on while my skin was damp followed with a moisturizer. I have pretty good skin but I am seeing that I have 2 smile lines that I want gone and I’m hoping this will help. Thank you so much for your time take care!
Yes, hyaluronic is the best in my opinion to prevent allergic reactions. There is a company called BioSkin Cosmetic which has great serums for micro needling. I wish you well on your journey. If you have any more questions feel free to let me know.
May I ask where you bought your Dr pen from? I can see there are a lot of websites that sell it but not sure which ones sell the original one. I live in UK. Thanks x
I bought it off of the US website. I do believe they are on Amazon know as a storefront. Which might be a bit easier. Hope this helps.
Hi love your vid! What alcohol did you use to clean your face before the Microneedling?
You can use 70% regular rubbing alcohol or you could go to Walgreens for “antiseptic skin cleanser” it doesn’t burn or smell like alcohol either will do.
@@Heidisspalife but vodka (alcohol) works well ?
Lol j.k.
Love this video, is there a follow up video of the results? I had 2 babies in 3 years and I’m
desperately looking for anti aging treatments
hmm i havent had a chance to do a follow up my stuff has been stuck in a different state. I will have an update video soon
Did you use any numb cream? And instead of hyaluronic serum can I used aloe ? In case bleeding what precautions should one take?
Hello there and no I didn't use numbing cream, but I am also used to it. I would not advise using Aloe but rather for you to use a serum. I use a higher needle thread count in this video and its at a shallow depth. You shouldn't have bleeding, but I would advise to go to an esthetician if you are not comfortable doing it on yourself.
Thanks 🎉a lot
You are welcome
Hi thank you for this video❤ how many needles would you recommend using for acne scars ?
You can use 12 - 16 pins. Hope this helps.
My first time using I wanted to get some of my acne scarring treated. I went all the way to 2.5 with a36 needle and I didn't bleed at all. Is that normal
Yes it is 36 needles is a good place to start it’s more gentle ….the lower the needle count the more aggressive. Make sure you have no active acne.
Hi thank you so much for the video. I have a question can I use pure hyaluronic acid for microneedling?
usually it will come in a diluted form of some sort the one i listed in the video is safe for the most part. I haven't personally had any reactions.
@@Heidisspalife thank you so much ❤️
Can you use the loreal revital life HA 1.5%
@Heidisspalife
Hi .thnku for the video ..however I wanted to ask..doesthe redness on the face stay for few days..if yes..max how mny days ..please advise
😊😊
Greetings, for my skin type personally I do not get red easily. After something like this, I'm only red for 2 days. Now if someone is more fair skin, or has compromised skin, they might have redness for up to a week if done carefully and not over manipulated. Some people have posted super tomato-red faces and then add a peel after micro-needling yeah that should not be done if they tend to get red easily it could be a sign of more sensitive skin and they are doing more harm than good. I hope this helps.
I''m a bit afraid to try circular movements....can i try stamping instead?
You should be fine with circular movements as long as it is a higher needle count, and a shallow setting to start. Always make sure you have enough serum to create glide, and you'll be fine. You won't feel it too much. Let me know if you try it or if you have any other questions.
It's like turning in circular motion and drag pull across as well?
If it's a gentle higher-needle count circular motion is acceptable.
and I believe I am pulling across in square sections, across, up, and down. I hope that answers your question.
@@Heidisspalife Thank you for your replies, it clear my doubt. I'm Grateful.
Does it help with he lines on the forehead between brows ?
Yes honey it does !
Great video! What state are you in?
I was in Florida now I am in Georgia!
Hello great video, do you recommend good numbing creams?
I typically would go for a tattooist numbing cream, and I have seen someone use a brand called Curist lidocaine cream. Those are what’s available over the counter. Just make sure you take it off before the procedure and don’t leave it on too long either. Hope this helps.
@@Heidisspalife ok great thank you so much!
You have beautiful skin
Thank you it’s always in progress
How many pins for the pen cartridge? 2.0 is deep shoot I bleed badly but not if it’s like a 36 pin cartridge
If you’re a bleeder dont start with that depth. Start with less like .5 ….i hope this helps
... Was really getting into it and concentrating....when I noticed something moving and rolling around in the bed, and was like WHAT THE HAIL 😳😆..!
haha either my dog or son. momlife=no privacy
What do you think about the Qure microneedling I bought it but haven't used it yet
I haven't heard of it to be honest I would have to do some research on it.
hi! what needle do you think would work for a straight scar on the face? do you think micro needling would help? thank you :)
Yes it all depends on how deep the scar is. I have a scar on my lip it is still there but diminished.
@@Heidisspalifeit’s not too deep but it’s deeper than the surrounding skin , what needle size would you recommend to break it up quicker ?
What is the procedure for the neck? And should we avoid the nose?
You can do the nose but it will be more difficult to keep a steady pace. I typically will skip the nose.
for the neck it would be very similar. That would be a great video.
Is it enough to just wash hair before microneedling the scalp? I don't want to dry out my hair with rubbing alcohol
there are other antiseptics that do not have a sting factor. A local pharmacy will have a bunch of antiseptics.
Hey! So I have the Dr Pen A6 and I am trying to get rid of a nose piercing scar.. do you think a few treatments of at home micro needling could possibly close the scar? It’s not big at all, it’s actually quite superficial because it’s internally closed, I’m just left w that small hole. In theory I think it could work? But wanted to get a skin care professional opinion?
It could help but it won't be 100% I actually have a small nose piercing as well it is still there but barely noticeable.
Hello, you use a new needle everytime you needle correct?
Yes that is correct!
Hi what numbing cream do you use
I do not use any, but I am not normal lol
Which specific pen should one purchase for home use
Me personally I like Dr. Pen. It is very affordable and good quality. I have had mine for years.
can this therapy ultimately rid yourself from scarring?
I would say if it’s mild scarring possibly but deeper scars not entirely there are more advanced procedures that plastic surgeons do but everything comes with risk
I have dark spots on my stomach due to picking ingrown hairs , will using this help with my dark spots on my stomach ? Xx
Yes, it can help. However it might take awhile since it is a larger surface area and if you keep picking. Picking is a habitual thing. Now what I would suggest is that if you have chronic ingrown hairs just go ahead and get it laser hair removal. It will help those from forming and lighten at the same time. I hope this helps.
What do you think of 12 needle Cartridge?
I actually made a video where I use a 12-needle count. It is more aggressive and you might need a numbing cream if you are sensitive but overall really great for deeper acne scarring.
How can we make sure we are not dragging the pen ?
Dragging the pen on dry skin is a no no. The best way to tell is what you will probably feel. Just keep in mind to use enough product for proper glide and make sure the pen its perpendicular to the skin.
How many times a week should we do this for results
Hello there, this is actually only done every 4-6 weeks. The skin needs time to heel and build collagen. This is usually done in a series.
Why using hyrolonic acid can we use vitamin c serum ?
Vitamin C serum is better with a nano tip. It’s stronger than hyaluronic and some people are sensitive to it.
Hello ! Can you please answer my question, i could not find cos de baha serum it is not available in my country, can i use la roche Posay hyalu B5 ? Is it a safe alternative? Please answer me . Thank u
Hello there, I checked out the ingredients it has a little too many for my liking so I would caution the use of this one for micro needling. I would just be worried if there was a reaction to the skin.
What you could probably do with that serum is Nano needling treatment but nothing deeper. I hope this helps.
@@Heidisspalife thank you so much i really appreciate it
@@asma.h8621 your very welcome 🙏🏻
What speed do you use?
hey there I usually start at a low speed and work my way up. I am used to it now but the fastest setting is what I use primarily especially on the areas that have more scarring.
Hi.. I have finally been able to get acne under control and have ordered this pen. I am terrified to use the ha serum to micro needle, can I use my cerave lotion that I use to help the pen move across my face instead of Serum?
Hey there personally I wouldn't use a lotion for micro-needling there are many more ingredients that derive lotion that can be irritating to the skin especially since needles are involved. The hyaluronic acid I am using is a singular ingredient that glides well and doesn't cause irritation. Unless you get irritated when using a serum that has that.
Which set of needles did u use...16 or 36?
I believe in that video I used 36 needle count
How often can you do this?
4-6 weeks
Idk why ive got vertical scars using this pen like its also healing others scars but also creating more..
you should have no scarring at all. Are you using enough serum to create glide?
Probably coz your dragging the needle while it's inside your skin. Lift the device in between, like stamping.
If I’m using 0.25, online says I can do it once a week. Is this true?
That’s a really shallow depth but rule of thumb is to allow some healing time I Would say 4 weeks minimum with any depth …..nano you can do more because it’s not really needles
What to avoid before ? Like taking ibuprofen
Any kind of blood thinners like aspirin, omegas, or medication. No accurate or retinol prior too either.
what serum are you using for acne scars?
BSK8 Scarpro by Bioskin 🙋🏽♀️
Do the needles need to be thrown out after every use?
Yes, they must be thrown out.
No numbing cream?
I am used to micro needling and I don't go too deep so I choose not to use it. There should be a link on that video for the numbing cream that I recommended.
How often do you do this ?
I will do this in sessions spaced out 4-6 weeks. Right now my skin likes about 3 sessions. I will retouch it a year from the end of those sessions. In the beginning a did more sessions because very bad scarring. Most places will have you do up to 10 sessions. This is all depending on the skin. I hope this helps.
Dang 2.0 on cheeks. I’m intrigued. Seems like all the other vids don’t go deep enough. .5 they bleed like crazy
I am not a bleeder to begin with even when I got my nose pierced years ago it didn't really bleed. Some people are probably just more vascular and will bleed easier. Also I am not new to micro needling so my skin was very much used to it. I have deeper scars on my cheeks so the 2.0 doesn't really bother me much. Everyone skin is different in the end. I hope this helps.
Would you do hydra needle
Probably not my skin is as good as it gets now lol
Every 4-6 weeks? Isn't supposed to be once a week for 3 weeks then once a month? But I wonder if you have to do it once a month for the rest of your life?
With micro needling every 4-6 weeks. I like 6 weeks. This is to allow for healing. Nano needling is safe every 2-3 weeks. You do not have to do it the rest of your life. lol. It is typically done in a package. For micro needling it ranges up to 10 sessions to get the desired results. Nano you can do whenever you want a boost from a serum with added benefits. I usually touch up my skin once a year. I hope this helps.
How do you clean it afterwards ?
I am going to assume you're talking about the device. The tips that go on the Dr. Pen are one-time use only. So that part you take off and discard. The handle you can clean with alcohol or a CaviCide wipe. Hope this helped. ✌🏽
@@Heidisspalife thank you so much
I thought it was just me I got and used my pen yesterday. I turned pink, but no bleeding. I was confused (dark skinned)
You do not have to bleed. If anything it is never wise to go that invasive the first time especially if you have darker skin. You can cause hyperpigmentation if you're sensitive to skin trauma. Pink in my opinion is good 👍.
I am doing a touch up on my skin this week. Make sure you stay tuned. ☺️
hey, can I do this without hyaluronic acid? thanks
Yes, you can ✌🏽
@@Heidisspalife thx
Make sure you use a serum of sorts for glide. Another good type of serum with added benefits would be something with peptides, or stemcells.
@@Heidisspalife so it's better not to do it without any kind of serum at all?
Sorry I went back and read the question and see where I misread. You MUST use some kind of glide. Never use this alone on dry skin. The easiest and most common serum to use is a hyaluronic acid. I hope
this helps.
Can this fade raised scars?
ooo no def be mindful with raised scars those tend to be keloids.
@@Heidisspalife I have a small hypertrophic scar on my face which I want eliminate, will this work on it?
Does it helps with dark spots?
Yes, most definitely!
@@Heidisspalife I just have a few dark spots on my face. Do you used the micro needling all over the face or just the dark spots?
@@yllamadavenport8339 what kind of dark spots? like post acne spots or on the cheeks..large patches?
@@Heidisspalife post acne dark spots
@@Heidisspalife on the face cheeks
Will peeling occur?
Yes slight peeling can occur
if you are at a shallow setting you might not have any
People never say ‘hey take a collagen supplement a few days before & after’
That would seem like a strong idea
Ehhhhhh in my opinion I would say NO. Collagen is good yes but it still takes some time for your body to absorb it. Assuming you don't have any digestive issues.
@@Heidisspalifewhats wrong with taking collagen when using it?
I am sure it won't do too much in a negative way because there are people who take it daily, There is a rule of thumb when it comes to supplements. Collegen depending on the quality or what it might be mixed with can be a mild blood thinner. So I personally just avoid my supplements temporarily when I do procedures like this. I hope this helps. @@pattersonellen
what depth
Hey there I will make a video on that soon. All about the settings, depths, and what they are meant for.
Can you nano needle with this pen? I’m trying to find a nano needling pen I’m a licensed esthetician as well
Hello there and yes you can you just need to order the replacement heads for nano needles instead of a 12 or 36 count. They have them on their website as well.
@@Heidisspalife thank u so much! We did a training while I was in school but they wanted so much for our school brand 😂😩😮💨
@@EmeraldsHoneyComb Yeah no they are mostly over priced....its all part of branding an item and then charging for it.
Is supposed to do circle of emotions on your whole face and forehead
I suppose 😂
Wait what the it 👁👄👁
I’m a male esthetician and I’m so SCARED to get an infection 😭
Anyways…. can I still have an infection if I use .25 I personally don’t want to go above .5…
Btw do you just use 70% alcohol or dilute it?
And can I use a roller? Im broke haha
No you will be fine with .25.....it really depends on the needle head. The less needles like 12 is much more intense and that when you see blood drawn. The one I'm using i believe its the 36 needles which is a gentle and finer. Hence why you didn't see me bleeding out.
@@Heidisspalife oh you’re using 36? Is 24 just okay?
You touch your face with your naked fingers after you have cleaned it with alcohol?
My hands are clean and I also spray them with Alcohol my dear. In an office setting gloves on all the time period.
@@Heidisspalife ☺👍
That is why I don’t wanna try even people like you with no skin problems using that
I am not exactly sure what you mean. I do have skin problems and lots of scarring. Sometimes it is very difficult to see on camera. I will do another video to show people what I mean because I think it is a bit harder to notice. It is ok if it is not something you want to try. It is always better to go and get this done at a medical spa by a trained licensed professional such as myself. I hope this helps.
I’m just so confused on how the numbers work on the pen
The numbers on the pen mean how deep your going. The higher the number the deeper you go. However with needle counts the higher number the less aggressive it is. I hope that makes sense.
@@Heidisspalife ok May I ask this for a full understanding… 12 needle cartridges or more aggressive than 36 needle cartridges?
@@Sertilya Yes, when you are dealing with scarring especially Acne scars a lower needle count will tend to be a little bit aggressive and may cause more point needle bleeds, but you may see better results when it comes to deeper scars. 12-needle carts are also very commonly used and generally safe. A higher needle count is finer and better for product absorption, fine lines, or even delicate skin-like stretch marks. People can do damage when they go too deep on the pen's settings, which in my opinion is not necessary, and should be done by a doctor if you're going past 2.5 mm. Where people also do damage is not holding the pen correctly, and not properly lubricating the skin. The reason for not going on a deeper setting with your pen is that you tend to lose control, and can further damage the skin if not done correctly. I hope this clarifies a bit more, but if I need to I will be happy to make another video. This is also based on the type of pen I use and their cartridges. They have user suggestions for all of their cartridges.
Yes please do make a video that would be very helpful, because it’s a lot of false information out here and it’s confusing for a lot of us, and also what serums can be needled with… Thank you so much for you time
@@Sertilya Yes, I will work on this project next no worries👍
I didn't think you were allowed to use vitamin C.
With nano you can or even a .25 setting
@@Heidisspalife oh perfect thanks
Dont drag the pen. Instead tap it gently.
Oh no esthi! Please don't prep your skin then touch it with your fingers. Put on gloves, prep, and keep your area sanitary. Otherwise I loved your video ❤
Thanks for the tip
I think you don't use any needles on your skin, It is a simulation just for the video. Not possible to use 2mm needle and not to bleed or at least to have redness. Sorry, this does not look realistic video.
I turn pink which is hard to see on camera and I’ve been doing this for many years and just don’t have bleeding I also am not going medical depths it is out of scope. Believe what you like I’m just sharing my experience because everyone is guess what different.