I’m a mid level QA analyst in the fintech space, I graduated from a bootcamp 5 years ago.Highly appreciate the channel and I can vouch for all he’s saying
@@thetestlead QA’s have to support each other! And as for advice, I would tell people to aim for certifications in testing; I recently became ISTQB certified and it’s helped me tremendously in a short amount of time.
@@jasondiaz3231 I took a programming bootcamp located in Detroit MI. I would recommend a bootcamp to give you a competitive edge as a manual tester and will lay the foundation to become the automation engineer. The first step I recommend is becoming certified in software testing. It’s a cheap certificate( under $300) and will help you understand the testing mindset and test techniques and principles
@@V4Vance88thanks so much! Where can I find this certification? Is there a website you recommend? Would love to check it out and think it's a great idea to see if I'll be into this field too
I’m a Nucamp grad, FullStack. Still looking for a tech role. Leaning hard in the QA direction. Not paying for another bootcamp so I’m going the self taught route. So I appreciate your content.
Thanks I'm glad I can help. Let me know also if you would like to ever do a mini interview talking about your bootcamp experiences and possible pivot into QA
First i want to say I appreciate your content. Its been very helpful. I'm currently in Careerist and on my job hunt journey which they do help with. The structure of the information and support you get through the process is a tremendous help. They do cover testing tools. I searched them prior to joining and saw they had great reviews.
I've only spoken to 1 person who went their and they said they enjoyed it, but be careful about the money back guarantee. The person that I spoke to no longer qualified for it because they missed a meeting for personal reasons. I'll be making a video next week that goes over what to look for in Bootcamps and other resources of learning that you may find helpful
Where you got this information from? I’m about to start one of those bootcamps just don’t know yet which one will be better for me. I’m afraid that they lie to just get the money
Hey, I made this over a year ago and was basing this just off of their curriculum and prices(which changed since then for most). I will make a video next month about the different ways to learn for and what to look for in bootcamps and different courses. But in short before you sign up for anything, ask a lot of questions and read the fine print! Let me know if this helped or if you have any other questions
Signed up for a bootcamp and just technically finished week 2 (bootcamp is new and not mentioned in the video). Is it normal for boot camps to ask for your SSN when agreeing to a contract? Also, so far we only got through the waterfall development and some CLI commands. No actual coding so far but then again course is 6 months.
Did they give context around needing your SSN, such as for background checks? It is better for a bootcamp to take it slow so that you have time to grasp everything, but do you have the full course outline to see everything that is covered?
@@thetestlead Thanks for replying, I totally missed this notification. Yeah, I thought they were going to do a background check but I think it was more so that they wanted to track people just in case anyone missed payments in the future (also possible legal actions). Originally, I thought they needed the SSN to make sure that everyone in the Boot Camp was eligible to get a job (since in the US). Now, I’m pretty sure it’s just to make sure everyone is somewhat tracked and make sure no missed payments occur based on signing the contract. That part they definitely didn’t slow down on explaining it. What was slow is that the instructor said we were going to start programming second week but we barely touched anything about JavaScript even though he was hinting at it. Third week (was the usual slowness), so I said to myself this is too slow for a payment of close to $800 a month to be worth it as we only covered SDLC to covering most models. Instructors up to that point were great and I understand they may needed to be slow for others who were not knowledgeable in anything about computers. The problem is that it was too slow to say the payment is worth it when you could learn the same stuff for free. The outline, if I remember correctly, was to cover the development phases and models, then programming JavaScript (unfortunately this was taking too long to get to even though it was hinted at for the second week), actual testing to be done after, and then resume building/ mock interviews to help in finding jobs after completion of the 6 month course. Basically, I ended up leaving.
@EverydayMedia hey, I'm sorry for your experience. That is another drawback to some bootcamps because they have to cater to all students. Were you able to get type of refund and what are your next plans?
Honestly, youtube, lol. I'll try to make a video next month talking about the different ways to learn for different budgets, so make sure to subscribe!
@@thetestlead hey there I'm currently about half way done with the course. Has some good information in it so far. Been showing my wife who is a QA some of the lessons and she thinks they are teaching good stuff
Practium( what I'm used to hearing it as) usually gets good reviews. I've noticed a few bootcamps changing their names over the years and want to look more into why(maybe legal reasons?) But overall you should be alright
Python is useful for general coding and writing automation tests, but SQL is needed to interact with databases and tables. That is usually an expectation in the role. You can learn it on your own, but I’m it shouldn’t be included in bootcamps at this day in age
@@thetestlead brother it’s hard to find a camp because they all get annoyed by my detailed questions but IDC bc I’ll be the one sitting with no job and a BILL !
Does Test Pro have any kind of money back guarantee as far as getting a job, and do you recommended going ahead and doing SDET or just the manual course first?
I just received an email from TestPro regarding a refund request I sent out today notifying that they will keep $250 for the registration fee and an additional % amount based on how much of the class/material that I completed. My total amount was $1,715 which represents the 1st portion that I paid to get into tur program a few days ago. But I after a long period of frustration with their overcomplicated on boarding process, a crazy system to access the course material and their lack of professionalism, I concluded that it wasn't worth the effort to proceed let alone paying the other 2 other portions they expected next month
@The Test Lead yes, I did. I just started with Careerist. They're so much better. Much more expensive, obviously, but it's worth it so far. Today, I will be studying some material on writing test cases. I missed the last live video class session but we have access to the recording to catch up. Thanks for asking btw. Appreciate your content and your sharing your knowledge with us.
@Fernguson Trafford thanks for the feedback. Careerist seems to be pretty popular among the people who follow me. Please keep me posted on your journey
Let me know how it goes, but make sure to do your full research before signing up! This video is over a year old and things could have changed with their prices, structure, and practices!
All bootcamps I believe accept people without diplomas and don’t really do any background checks. Just research some that you are interested in make sure you read the fine print so you know what you are registering for.
@@ferngusontrafford5685 classes just started this week. It looks like a pretty comprehensive course. We will have live classes 3 times a week, and work with our scrum team every day.
Thank you for this information! I'm strongly considering Careerist, I'm searching for information about other boot camps, that's how I found your video. You are a QA automation engineer? Is that correct?
@@thetestlead Wow, that's impressive! So you have to do programming as a sdet? According to Google.😁 You had to learn a programming code in order to get promoted or you already knew how to code? This would make a great video for you to create.💓
@All Ways yeah I was actual a software developer first and then switched over to sdet/automation engineer. Maybe I'll make a video about my journey 1 day
From their website their curriculum is legit and they offer a money back guarantee if you don't get a job within 6 months(reach out to them for the specifics). Did you ever sign up?
Some bootcamps have different financial set ups I believe. You should be able to talk to advisors for free on any of the bootcamps website and inquire. I also just posted a video with a guy who did an in person bootcamp and wad able to get a full scholarship for it
I think they are both good, I'm actually trying to find people who took them to give real feedback. I have a few for Careerist already but still waiting for some for TestPro
Hi @TheTestLead I recently signed up for testPro bootcamp. This is my second week and so far liking the process and the lectures. Homework is assigned and an actual person checks it and grades it and we receive feedback as well. We attend scrum meetings with a set of group of people of about 8 taking into consideration that in our live classes we are about 200 people so that is really good. I will keep updating on how the bootcamp turns out later on. Let me know if I’m of any help for your reviews. Thank you for this video! Gives me assurance I made a good choice.
@@Ohioskinsfan , I’ve just completed my 7 weeks of training. it was straightforward and the instructors made concepts easy to understand. Now I’m going into my internship. Btw I went with Careerist not TestPro.
I'm actually looking to create a video on different Bootcamp graduates to get their first hand experiences so my viewers can have real feedback. But they claim that their graduates usually land a job within the first few months after and they have a money back guarantee if you show you actively apply for jobs for a certain time period and I think a few of other things
I got a job going through Careerist. I don't remember what website, but they were rating highly for IT starter bootcamps. The majority of the people I have seen it not work for is the people who don't follow their system. Or they were expecting the results faster than it was happening.
@rjwho Well I had some personal things take place, so I didn't start my job hunt process right away. When I started the job hunt process, it took 4 months.
I posted a video interviewing someone who got a job after careerist. I interviewed another person who is still in the job hunt process after careerist and that video should be up next month.
I probably should have specified they are not in a particular order. Both are really good and I actually have test pro on list for automation Bootcamps too because all of their programs appear to be good
Not off topic because I'm pretty sure a lot of other people have the same question! -Senior manual QA(go from entry level, to junior level, then senior level) -QA Lead(can be obtained after Senior QA) -Team Lead(can be obtained after being a software senior QA) You can have a lot of success in this field and never know anything about code. I work with senior manual QAs every day who have been in the field 20+ years and are happy
Don't let that stop you! You can definitely learn for free or at a very low cost if you go the self taught route. Use UA-cam & Udemy I will also try to create some more videos to help educate in the space
I’m a mid level QA analyst in the fintech space, I graduated from a bootcamp 5 years ago.Highly appreciate the channel and I can vouch for all he’s saying
Thanks for the support! Do you have any suggestions or tips from a first hand experience for people?
@@thetestlead QA’s have to support each other! And as for advice, I would tell people to aim for certifications in testing; I recently became ISTQB certified and it’s helped me tremendously in a short amount of time.
@@V4Vance88 , I am trying to become a manual QA. You said you did a bootcamp 5 years ago, which one was it? And fo you highly recommend it?
@@jasondiaz3231 I took a programming bootcamp located in Detroit MI. I would recommend a bootcamp to give you a competitive edge as a manual tester and will lay the foundation to become the automation engineer. The first step I recommend is becoming certified in software testing. It’s a cheap certificate( under $300) and will help you understand the testing mindset and test techniques and principles
@@V4Vance88thanks so much! Where can I find this certification? Is there a website you recommend? Would love to check it out and think it's a great idea to see if I'll be into this field too
I’m a Nucamp grad, FullStack. Still looking for a tech role. Leaning hard in the QA direction. Not paying for another bootcamp so I’m going the self taught route. So I appreciate your content.
Thanks I'm glad I can help. Let me know also if you would like to ever do a mini interview talking about your bootcamp experiences and possible pivot into QA
First i want to say I appreciate your content. Its been very helpful.
I'm currently in Careerist and on my job hunt journey which they do help with. The structure of the information and support you get through the process is a tremendous help. They do cover testing tools. I searched them prior to joining and saw they had great reviews.
Thank you for the support! Also thanks for the updated information, how far into the Bootcamp are you?
Hey @michael I’m thinking about qa instead of sales engineer with careerist..how is it so far ?
I’m on my internship with Careerist and I like it. I also did Road to QA with Jennifer Gaddis as well and she’s great…
@@gillionaire how's the internship going
@@thetestlead it was good actually. I just finished last Friday. I can say I learned a lot with testing tools
What do you think about the tripleten boot camp?
I've only spoken to 1 person who went their and they said they enjoyed it, but be careful about the money back guarantee.
The person that I spoke to no longer qualified for it because they missed a meeting for personal reasons. I'll be making a video next week that goes over what to look for in Bootcamps and other resources of learning that you may find helpful
Road to QA is a self paced Bootcamp and it’s only 697. It’s a small business but has great reviews.
Do you have a website for them?
Have you taken the course or plan to? If so, what’s your experience so far?
Where you got this information from? I’m about to start one of those bootcamps just don’t know yet which one will be better for me. I’m afraid that they lie to just get the money
Hey, I made this over a year ago and was basing this just off of their curriculum and prices(which changed since then for most).
I will make a video next month about the different ways to learn for and what to look for in bootcamps and different courses. But in short before you sign up for anything, ask a lot of questions and read the fine print! Let me know if this helped or if you have any other questions
Signed up for a bootcamp and just technically finished week 2 (bootcamp is new and not mentioned in the video). Is it normal for boot camps to ask for your SSN when agreeing to a contract? Also, so far we only got through the waterfall development and some CLI commands. No actual coding so far but then again course is
6 months.
Did they give context around needing your SSN, such as for background checks?
It is better for a bootcamp to take it slow so that you have time to grasp everything, but do you have the full course outline to see everything that is covered?
@@thetestlead Thanks for replying, I totally missed this notification. Yeah, I thought they were going to do a background check but I think it was more so that they wanted to track people just in case anyone missed payments in the future (also possible legal actions). Originally, I thought they needed the SSN to make sure that everyone in the Boot Camp was eligible to get a job (since in the US). Now, I’m pretty sure it’s just to make sure everyone is somewhat tracked and make sure no missed payments occur based on signing the contract. That part they definitely didn’t slow down on explaining it. What was slow is that the instructor said we were going to start programming second week but we barely touched anything about JavaScript even though he was hinting at it. Third week (was the usual slowness), so I said to myself this is too slow for a payment of close to $800 a month to be worth it as we only covered SDLC to covering most models. Instructors up to that point were great and I understand they may needed to be slow for others who were not knowledgeable in anything about computers. The problem is that it was too slow to say the payment is worth it when you could learn the same stuff for free. The outline, if I remember correctly, was to cover the development phases and models, then programming JavaScript (unfortunately this was taking too long to get to even though it was hinted at for the second week), actual testing to be done after, and then resume building/ mock interviews to help in finding jobs after completion of the 6 month course. Basically, I ended up leaving.
@EverydayMedia hey, I'm sorry for your experience. That is another drawback to some bootcamps because they have to cater to all students. Were you able to get type of refund and what are your next plans?
@@thetestlead Hi! Can you tell me what bootcamp was it please
Any good place, course you can recommend to learn for free, plesss?
Honestly, youtube, lol. I'll try to make a video next month talking about the different ways to learn for different budgets, so make sure to subscribe!
@@thetestlead THANK YOU, brother! subscribed
@@davidclark6749 thanks and keep me posted on your journey!
Wish I saw this, I am doing the careerist boot camp right now. It doesn't seem bad, they touch a lot of aspect. Not many review on it
Hey, how far into are you right now?
@@thetestlead hey there I'm currently about half way done with the course. Has some good information in it so far. Been showing my wife who is a QA some of the lessons and she thinks they are teaching good stuff
@Emmanuel Boafo-Asare would you mind possibly sharing your first hand experience in a video ?
@@thetestlead Definitely will be uploading a review of it soon. Would love to hop on your show for an interview if you would like the content
@@kwesi3000 send me an email at thetestinglead@gmail.com
Have you heard of Triple Ten (Formely Practium) if so what is your opinion on them?
Practium( what I'm used to hearing it as) usually gets good reviews. I've noticed a few bootcamps changing their names over the years and want to look more into why(maybe legal reasons?) But overall you should be alright
Hi there! Thank you for this video! Have you heard of Practicum Bootcamp and would you recommend?
This comment got lost somehow, but Practicum's curriculum seems solid. Did you ever end up going with them?
Have you heard anymore information about Practicum?
@Ohioskinsfan just the basics. I am currently looking for a graduate from their program to get their first hand honest feedback
@@thetestleadplease let us know about the feedback
@InGodITrust1111 still waiting for feedback to get honest graduates!
Do you know of Codemify's bootcamp?
Never heard of it, do you have a link?
I ran into a bootcamp that say they don’t offer sql but python because Python is heavily used .Should I trust it ??
Python is useful for general coding and writing automation tests, but SQL is needed to interact with databases and tables. That is usually an expectation in the role.
You can learn it on your own, but I’m it shouldn’t be included in bootcamps at this day in age
@@thetestlead brother it’s hard to find a camp because they all get annoyed by my detailed questions but IDC bc I’ll be the one sitting with no job and a BILL !
Yeah it’s better to ask questions BEFORE and know what you are getting into than AFTER and be left with a crazy bill and still no job
Does Test Pro have any kind of money back guarantee as far as getting a job, and do you recommended going ahead and doing SDET or just the manual course first?
I just received an email from TestPro regarding a refund request I sent out today notifying that they will keep $250 for the registration fee and an additional % amount based on how much of the class/material that I completed. My total amount was $1,715 which represents the 1st portion that I paid to get into tur program a few days ago. But I after a long period of frustration with their overcomplicated on boarding process, a crazy system to access the course material and their lack of professionalism, I concluded that it wasn't worth the effort to proceed let alone paying the other 2 other portions they expected next month
Did you ever end up trying another Bootcamp?
@The Test Lead yes, I did. I just started with Careerist. They're so much better. Much more expensive, obviously, but it's worth it so far. Today, I will be studying some material on writing test cases. I missed the last live video class session but we have access to the recording to catch up. Thanks for asking btw. Appreciate your content and your sharing your knowledge with us.
@Fernguson Trafford thanks for the feedback. Careerist seems to be pretty popular among the people who follow me. Please keep me posted on your journey
@@ferngusontrafford5685test pro suck
Im about to do tha careerist for qa engineer
Let me know how it goes, but make sure to do your full research before signing up! This video is over a year old and things could have changed with their prices, structure, and practices!
@@thetestlead yea I've been doin my research for a few weeks now and asking ever question possible
Ok perfect, let me know how it goes. I may also be able to get you discount Link if you don’t have1 already
@@thetestlead I absolutely don't have one...I'm tryna get tha money now cus it's 4400....
@@yellowman617are you in the program ?
I’m 22 and I love video games to death is there boot camps that still accept people with no diploma or ged
All bootcamps I believe accept people without diplomas and don’t really do any background checks. Just research some that you are interested in make sure you read the fine print so you know what you are registering for.
Have you ever heard of Verizon IT or Jan bask training?
Hey I’m a graduate of Careerist. Currently in the job hunting phase. I would love to answer any questions and connect if possible.
How was your internship after completing the Bootcamp and would you recommend Careerist? Thanks in advanced.
Hey let me know if you would like to do an interview talking about your experience! If so email me at thetestinglead@gmail.com
Hi, Did you get a job in QA field and how was your bootcamp helped to you
Hey did u guys found job with careerist ?
I’m in careerist now. It’s pretty good
Thanks for the support! How far along in the bootcamp are you right now?
@@thetestlead I am on my 7th week with a few more to go. I’ve been doing a lot of my own research on the side. Pretty confident about this right now !
@@theformulafitness Would you recommend it? I’m looking to start early next year
@@theformulafitness Do they cover SQL?
@@8Bulletv yes
Thanks for the video. Very informative. I'm interested in Test Pro, so I am happy to see you recommend it.
Thanks for the support, I'm actually trying to find real people who have taking these courses and make a video about their first hand experiences
@@thetestlead I just signed up. Start on Jan 14th. I'll be happy to stay in touch.
@@BrianHarig do they have a money back guarantee if you don’t find a job ?
@@BrianHarig please do share with us the experience. I'm also considering signing up since it's cheaper
@@ferngusontrafford5685 classes just started this week. It looks like a pretty comprehensive course. We will have live classes 3 times a week, and work with our scrum team every day.
Thank you for this information! I'm strongly considering Careerist, I'm searching for information about other boot camps, that's how I found your video. You are a QA automation engineer? Is that correct?
Thanks for the support, yes I am currently a QA automation engineer/SDET.
@@thetestlead Wow, that's impressive! So you have to do programming as a sdet? According to Google.😁 You had to learn a programming code in order to get promoted or you already knew how to code? This would make a great video for you to create.💓
@All Ways yeah I was actual a software developer first and then switched over to sdet/automation engineer. Maybe I'll make a video about my journey 1 day
@@thetestleadyou should def make a video about your journey. I am really interested.
@@jasondiaz3231 thanks I will try to set one to start the new year out!
any thoughts on practicum?
Did you end up with Praticum? Looking to sign up with them..
From their website their curriculum is legit and they offer a money back guarantee if you don't get a job within 6 months(reach out to them for the specifics). Did you ever sign up?
I'm also interested in Practicum. Does anyone have any knowledge about them?
@@thetestlead I signed up with them, and loving the course so far
This awesome however given the state of our economy getting 2k to 7k together for a bootcamp is alot. Is there any funding for bootcamps?
Some bootcamps have different financial set ups I believe. You should be able to talk to advisors for free on any of the bootcamps website and inquire. I also just posted a video with a guy who did an in person bootcamp and wad able to get a full scholarship for it
Very helpful
Thank you, but also always do your own extra research before investing your money
Which is better between Careerist and TestPro?
I think they are both good, I'm actually trying to find people who took them to give real feedback. I have a few for Careerist already but still waiting for some for TestPro
Hi @TheTestLead I recently signed up for testPro bootcamp. This is my second week and so far liking the process and the lectures. Homework is assigned and an actual person checks it and grades it and we receive feedback as well. We attend scrum meetings with a set of group of people of about 8 taking into consideration that in our live classes we are about 200 people so that is really good. I will keep updating on how the bootcamp turns out later on. Let me know if I’m of any help for your reviews. Thank you for this video! Gives me assurance I made a good choice.
@Samy Pallo thanks for the real feedback! Please keep me posted on your journey, also I would like to interview you about your experience after
@Samy Pallo how is the course going so far? I'm interested in TestPro and Careerist.
@@Ohioskinsfan , I’ve just completed my 7 weeks of training. it was straightforward and the instructors made concepts easy to understand. Now I’m going into my internship. Btw I went with Careerist not TestPro.
I'm currently in test pro. Pretty good
Thanks for the support, how far along in the Bootcamp are you?
@@thetestlead I'm towards the end. Just doing some practice. We just did a few sprints and regression testing.
Is test pro legit??
@@jacobyjonez9900 it is. I mean they move pretty fast but they answer all your questions if you have any. They also help prep you for interviews
@@edwes1 thanks for the response, did you have any prior experience? Or were u a complete beginner?
Has anyone here landed a job through Careerist? I'm on the fence about joining it. A lot of negative comments about them on Reddit.
I'm actually looking to create a video on different Bootcamp graduates to get their first hand experiences so my viewers can have real feedback.
But they claim that their graduates usually land a job within the first few months after and they have a money back guarantee if you show you actively apply for jobs for a certain time period and I think a few of other things
I got a job going through Careerist. I don't remember what website, but they were rating highly for IT starter bootcamps. The majority of the people I have seen it not work for is the people who don't follow their system. Or they were expecting the results faster than it was happening.
@@Gemini691 how long did it take you to get a job after the internship?
@rjwho Well I had some personal things take place, so I didn't start my job hunt process right away. When I started the job hunt process, it took 4 months.
I posted a video interviewing someone who got a job after careerist. I interviewed another person who is still in the job hunt process after careerist and that video should be up next month.
Why careerist over testpro
I probably should have specified they are not in a particular order. Both are really good and I actually have test pro on list for automation Bootcamps too because all of their programs appear to be good
Please, could you recommend a free bootcamp?
I haven't came across any so far, but if I do I'll make a video about them
Thank you for this video
Thank you for the support!
great video
Thanks for the support
I know this is off-topic, but what kind of upward or advanced roles/ careers can a Manual QA Tester make besides QA Automation?
Not off topic because I'm pretty sure a lot of other people have the same question!
-Senior manual QA(go from entry level, to junior level, then senior level)
-QA Lead(can be obtained after Senior QA)
-Team Lead(can be obtained after being a software senior QA)
You can have a lot of success in this field and never know anything about code. I work with senior manual QAs every day who have been in the field 20+ years and are happy
I wish I could afford any of these courses. Finance has been my major obstacle
Don't let that stop you! You can definitely learn for free or at a very low cost if you go the self taught route. Use UA-cam & Udemy I will also try to create some more videos to help educate in the space
Interesting 👌
Thanks for the support!