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Nikon FTZ Essential Info And Speed Tests
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- So, what do you really know about the Nikon FTZ adapters for the Z series mirrorless? In this video, we'll reveal everything you need to know about the Nikon FTZ adapters, as well as answer questions like:
Does the FTZ adapter slow down F-mount lenses? (This is a shocker)
Does the FTZ adapter hurt image quality?
Can you use Z-mount TCs with the FTZ adapter
Why is the FTZ adapter so thick?
Is there any difference between the original FTZ and the new one?
And so much more! If you're a Nikon mirrorless shooter, you owe it to yourself to watch this quick 8 minute video!
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In Korea, there was no UA-camr who marked it in detail like this, and you showed me all the questions and tests I was curious about. Thank you, steve.
Thanks for the hard work as always Steve.
Got to admire Nikon's engineers for making F lenses work well. Can't think of anything else released in 1959 that is still in use in 2022.
Leica-M? Since 1954 and this year came the M11, with the same M-Mount. I do not think that any Manufacturer will beat Leica at this point.
(We will see if Nikon will release new F-Mount bodys for the next 10 Years...i somehow doubt this.)
And for the Leica M: You still can use Lenses with the M39-Mount, that came out since 1930... (with a very small adapter)
You’re definitely not a guitarist eh? 😉😋
The FTZ adapters only offers autofocus with AF-S lenses. So it only "works" with lenses from the 1990s, when AF-S appeared. I have no idea why you start at 1959. You can put 90% of Nikkor lenses from 1959 and later on any camera with the correct flange distance. It only needs to be mechanical connected with a basic dumb non-electronic adapter. As in: not fall off.
Great to see that f mount glasses are performing as about same speed with the native lenses. This will help guys with exotic lenses to migrate without pressure. Excellent work Steve.
Quick follow-up.
There have been a few comments here and elsewhere wondering about the AF speed of the gripped D850 + ENEL18 battery and un-gripped D850 + the normal battery and how that affects speed as well as how the lenses would preform on a D6.
I've been saying that I believe the speed is the same, but it was bugging me since I haven't actually tested it. So, I just grabbed the 600E and tested with D850 with and without the grip (all batteries in question fully charged).
Yup, both are the same. 1/2 second (15 frames @ 30FPS). :)
I no longer own a D6, however, I did do this same test awhile back when comparing AF speed of the Nikon 600mm to the Sony 600mm (I never published it because it would cause too much bickering in the comments). At any rate, I loaded the video clip, checked the speed, and the D6 also takes 1/2 second to focus from minimum focus distance to infinity.
I still contend that the speeds we're seeing both from the Z9 and and the D850 (and the D6) are simply the fastest speeds the AF motor can get the lens from minimum focus to infinity.
Which was faster from your test? The sony 600 vs nikon 600( I guess it's older)? I think boyz take their toys too personal.
@@joshmcdzz6925 Speed was actually a tie. I kind of thought the Sony was a touch quicker, but the numbers didn't agree. 1/2 second for both. And I agree - people worry way too much about what others think of their gear.
The only thing no one has done, as far as I know, is to try the new EN-EL18d battery in the D6 or D5 and see if they can match the AF speed of the Z9. I've always wondered if the battery has something to do with it, as in the new battery is delivering more power to lens' AF motor? The only thing that makes me believe the Z9 is doing better speed wise...is the battery. I have the EN-EL18c batteries for my D6, D5 and D850. I think the reason people see the D850 do better AF wise with the MB-D18 grip, is because the AF sub-mirror is "seeing" the scene almost 30% more per second with the grip at 9fps than it is without the grip at 7fps. It's possible the Z9 and new battery work together to deliver more power to the lens' focus motor. Or it could just be the new battery or the Z9 itself. This would have to be tested with the Z9 using an EN-EL18c instead of the newer (d) battery and then testing a D6 with the Z9 battery. At the end of the day, it's nice to know that the Z9 is finally capable of extremely fast AF. My D6 will happily last me another year, hopefully by then I will be able to easily get a Z9, maybe even used? But I'm happy the Z9 is a possible upgrade path for a DSLR lover like myself. Before I buy a Z9 though, I want to see if it's possible to transfer images wirelessly in the field, reliably. The D6 has built in Wifi, but it's not 100% reliable, especially not when using the SnapBridge app. Which is why I absolutely love the WT-6A and D5/D6 for this purpose and as a photojournalist. With the WT-6A attached I can almost instantly choose a file to send and have it on my iPhone/ipad within 1-2 seconds of taking the image. The WT-6A has a 650ft range and it does not require any additional infrastructure. I've been able to reliably send images to my iPhone and then to editors, even from the front lines of wildfire's, because of the WT-6A. It just always works, at least while using the ShutterSnitch app. So I'm hoping the Z9 can do the same, reliably. Because the $6500 D6 still has issues and it's built in Wifi/Bluetooth is not as reliable or good as using the attached $600 WT-6A and the Z9, well it has no port to attach the WT-6A. Hopefully thats because Nikon is saying they no longer need one, hopefully that means the Z9 has a WT-6A built in. But so was the D6 supposedly, and it didn't do what it was supposed to.
@@patricksmith2553 Both the C and D version of the battery are 10.8v, so I'm not sure there's any difference coming form a voyage standpoint. I'd try it myself, but I had to sell the D6 to afford the Z9, so I have no way to do so.
Thank you so much Steve for taking the time to do these tests. You’re the first to clearly answer these questions that all future Z9 owners were looking for.
This is groundbreaking news ! Seriously.
You’re the only one who actually made a video to test it, this is such a relief, I even feel really excited and confident to get the Z9 now.
Thank you so much 🙌
Excellent video as always Steve. Great info delivered in a frank and honest way, clear and concise and without conflicting music or dark moody lighting. Number one in my books!
Cheers from Montréal.
I was already sold on the Z9 but this just confirms that decision. I have a collection of F-mount telephotos and converters to shoot mostly motorsports and don't plan on getting native lenses anytime soon. Great info, Steve.
Thanks for the time, it's always lovely to see your pictures. That's and impressive result by the Z9. Matt Granger find, in portrait situations, that the performance of the adapted lenses is just stellar.
Thank you so much for the technical data. I've been pouring over reviews and specs trying to decide if I should get z mount lenses or just go with an adapter and my F mounts. This is the first review I found where someone took the time to give actual readings instead of just, yup, looks about the same. Excellent work Steve, you've got a new fan today!
Steve - Thanks so much for taking the time to do this! Super psyched to get out and shoot eagles next week with my Z9 and 500 PF (and TC-14e III)!!
Thank you Steve! in 8 minutes you really summed up everything I needed to know about the FTZ adapters on real world use.
Great video Steve! I am getting my Z9 tomorrow, and will be shooting it with the 300 and 500 PF lenses, with and without the same tc as in your tests. So your video allayed whatever fears I had regarding AF speed, and actually boosted my confidence in my purchase of my Z9. Thank you so much for your extremely timely video!
Enjoy that hotrod camera bro! Congratulations!, I think Nikon has a true high speed wildlife mirrorless camera finally..im waiting on an APS-C version...
@@bassangler73 thanks, I’m excited!
@@johnredrup1036 you have every right to be!!!
Hi..If you don’t mind me asking please…How long did you have to wait after placing your order for a Z9?
@@baburao786 I placed a pre-order September 27th and received it on January 19th.
Just received my Z9, and am encouraged by your test results! Looking forward to putting this exact same glass on it and letting it rip!
Great Job Steve, as always. The faster focusing with the 1.4TC is a real game changer for sure. I will try this with my 400 2.8 lens and I assume it should mirror what you found with the other lenses. Can't wait until you come out with the Z9 review.
Wow! The result at 6:15 is really quite something - to autofocus just as fast with the TC as without is amazing and will make TC use so much better!!
Wow! Not what I would have expected. Thanks for taking the time to do this Steve.
You and me both! I figured the Z9 might tie the F mount camera, but not that it would rock the TCs like that!
Steve what a great source for accurate information and I am so glad you choose to shoot with multiple brands to help all of us make informed decisions. I dont shoot Nikon but I am glad to see Nikon folks happy with the new Z9 and adapters
I'm going to convert you to Nikon brother 😂😂😂
@@bassangler73 I'm a wildlife photographer. You give me a camera. I'll get you something out of it lol
@@longrider9551 👍
Wow !! Such an amazing improvement over the DSLRs when it comes to using TCs Wow!! Now someone getting a new z9 can buy a F Mount telephoto lens without any hesitation at all, Yes the native z mount glasses will perform better but again they will cost more than the already amazing f mount glasses. Thanks a lot Steve for such a detailed comparison. Waiting eagerly for your full review of the Z9 🙏🏼
Really interesting revelations Steve, thanks for sharing your findings, it's appreciated. cheers.
That had to be a lot of work putting these tests together. Thanks for saving us all a bunch of time!
Super thorough and helpful. I can’t thank you enough as this is really relevant to me and has definitely tilted the scale towards purchasing the Z9. Many thanks again. Cheers
Thank you for this! Been waiting too long for these answers.
Great video Steve! Thanks for all you and yours hard work!
Great video and very pleased you have the Z9 in your hands which means soon we'll have a proper review of the camera. Thanks for your hard work mate.
for anyone reading this I just took the Lightroom library tutorial and I'm blown away by what I learned. there seems to be no small corner of that part of Lightroom I don't understand now. Steve thanks and don't stop there
Great news! I've invested a lot legendary F-mount lenses the last two years and my D850 is still going strong but it is good to know that the transition to a Z9 one day will go well.
Dang, this is one very useful test! Great stuff, Steve! My Z9 arrived today!
Thanks for the, once again, great and informative video!
What could have been good to mention in this video is that the FTZ adapter does not allow for transmitting focus distance to the camera, only focal length, and, therefore, does not allow the camera to use 5 axis stabilization. The 4th and 5th axis, the sensor's x- and y-axis movements, depend on this information.
This could be important for someone choosing between old and maybe cheaper F-mount glass versus new Z-mount glass for filming.
You are the Mythbusters of gear tests sir 🙂 I was hoping to see a big "Busted!" graphic at the end 😆
Thanks for all the helpful info!
You are the best source of information on UA-cam Steve thank you
Brilliant news and thanks for your always thorough videos. Belated happy new year
This is a fantastic video. I have 2 D850's and plan on keeping them for a while before eventually getting a Z9 when they are more readily available and the bugs, if any, have had a chance to be id'd and corrected. The biggest benefit of this video is its timing. I have 8-10 days left before returning a 600mm f/4 E to B&H. Compatibility with the mirrorless cameras was a concern for me. This video gives me even more reason to keep it and eliminates that concern. Great video coach. You have taught me a ton via your videos and your educational ebooks. Thanks a ton Steve. You are the goods. On the down side, you have cost me more money! Hahahaha! However, the utility received from those expenditures has worth it.
Excellent analysis. You definitely answered a few of my questions. I have the FTZII already, but I may not get the camera to go along with it for months. I hope will do a video on the settings you recommend.
As always, great insights, thanks very much Steve.
Short, sweet, and to the point! Thank you!
Thanks for an awesome review!! It's great to hear that the Z9 can focus fast with a F lens!!
As always, great info! Thanks!
Awesome Steve, thanks for doing that testing… that’s sensational news
Thanks Steve for the thorough comparison
Wouaw! Thanks a lot Steve.
As I’m loaded with AF lenses and don’t plan to sell them when I’ll get my Z camera, you just have given me the reason to go for the Z9 !!!
Sorry I mean F mount lenses. They are AF of course !
Thank you...Finally some clarity on this adapter
Awesome video as usual, thank you Steve!
This is good to know. I am on the waiting list for a Z9. I ordered late, so I have a few months to wait. But, knowing that I can wait to start buying Z mount lens is good news. Trying to stick to a budget. Currently using a D810. Looking forward to your Z9 evaluation. Thanks
Thanks for the video, very helpful and informative.
This is so great. Thank you Steve!
Awesome thanks for your super efficient informative review. Very impressive. I hope you'll release more real world review of Z 9.
Outstanding work. Thank you.
Excellent review, thank you!
Thanks Steve for another spot on video. I have been debating buying the 500PF to go with my Z9 and this just helped convince me it would be a great match.
It's a super combo. I've been using it a ton lately and it's worked well.
Super helpful video, thanks a lot!
Quick and easy well done and thank you
Thanks for clarifying all the doubts
Wow great news, saves me $$ upgrading and I can go shopping for F mount lens again. Thanks Steve
The Nikon Z system is just the best, I'm all in on everything Nikon Z.
Fantastic results from the z9
Great news (other than maybe the Z6 being slow). I have the original ZFZ for Z50 and Z6, so I did wonder about this. Thank you for doing this Steve.
Brilliant review!
Thanks so so much....Great and methodical work as always. Hats Off...!!!
really looking forward to Steve´s review of the Z9!!!!!
You have to try this with Z8 when it comes out! amazing video
thankyou so much Steve, very userful test！I changed my d500 to z6 and feels terrible in autofocus and now I ordered z9 just after watched your video.
Steve Perry got a Z9 yeahhrrrrrrrrrr!
A nice concise video Steve. I'm not in the Z9-level market, but as with other Z9 tech I hope the improved AF speeds with adapted F-mount lenses ends up in bodies further down the Z range.
Great information. Thank you.
Very informative. Thank you!
Thank you so much - this video answered every question I had about the Z9 with DSLR lenses. I'm off to buy a bloody Z9 mate!!
Świetna robota ❤
I'm in the process of getting the Z6II and I'm going to pair it with the 85mm f1.4G. This is good information.
Very very interesting video, thanks!! I am waiting for the new z body to be announced before switching from F to Z, and I have a lot of good f lenses which I would like to keep. Hopefully the better performance in AF speed of the Z9 will flow down to future generations Z bodies.
Very useful information
A little late to the party (like Nikon) but great job as usual. Please keep it up Steve. Your work has really made an impact on my shooting.
Thanks Steve for great informational video, I do understand you will take your time. Still want to request for Z9 setup video sooner.
Thanks
@Steve - Thank you so much for this video. In fact, you have answered all my questions!!
sir your photographs are Amazing.
Thanks for your tests! So I feel pretty confident to (in the long run) replace my D750 with something like a Z6 III and continue to use my lenses until I actually have to replace them in the future
At 5:03 mark, the 300mm PF lens image made me laugh... keep up the good/informative work.
Just got my Z9, waiting for the weekend to try it. Keeping my D5 as well.
Great review , thank you from Thailand 👍🏻🙏🏻
Thanks Steve! A very clarifying video:) Now I know I will not buy the F 200-500 for my Z6ii.. Will wait for the Z 200-600.
Hey Steve,
I am waiting for your Z9 Review. :)
Cheers!
Great video!
Well, I just switched to a Z7II from a D810 but decided to go native lenses for the Z mount. I am keeping a 50mm and 85mm Nikon F mount lenses but that's mostly for portraiture. I primarily do pet photography which isn't too far a stretch from wildlife photography but with a bit more control over the situation. I understand the hit rate on action could be better but after using the D810 if it's just a hair better than that I will be happy. I hope Nikon will do a firmware update on the Z7II. I do know the buffer rate is way better. I've tested the camera a few times and am happy with it. The Z9 was tempting but beyond my budget at this time.
Another Good informative video as we used to get from this channel ...
While Canon released their telephoto lenses with only changing the mount (they did it first tho) ... Nikon let its wildlife shooters wait for the Z9 and now they can keep their F mount telephoto lenses or adapt to the newer Z lenses which seems to be special (400 2.8 TC - 800 pf - 600 f4 "TC") ...
I'm guessing the 600 to have a TC so it would be 600 f4 or 840mm f5.6 and that's why there won't be a 800 f5.6
Great video Steve! I’m eagerly awaiting my Z9. I’m really interested in how you think the af performs for bird in flight as your opinion is the only one I trust on UA-cam. Looking forward to future videos!
I haven't done enough BIF yet to know, but I'll be working on that in the coming months.
I am glad Nikon released Z9, not the I will ever purchase it, for I being an enthusiast with limited means only. But it seems brought Steve back to Nikon systems which will help me a lot to learn photography ☺️☺️
Note that part of the FTZ thickness results from the sensor plan moving forward in the camera. Without the restriction of fitting the mirror in there is more flexibility for the sensor location, and I figure they moved it forward for heat management or to make room for the electronics in general.
I learnt a lot from Steve watching his videos 🙏🏻❤
Thank you. This is really usefull info for me. If you can test with 500mm and 1.7TC that would give more information.
Mr Steve please suprise on the next Costa Rica trip all animals with Z9 🥂 You are the best Nikon ambasador and teacher for me. Thank You, thank You 😊
LOL, havnet decided what I'm taking this year :) It might be the Canon R3 if mine ever shows up!
I knew that the z9 focus just as fast as my d850 with my 600mm lense. I was so happy to get my speedy af back. I sold my d850 and switch to z6, z6II and now Z9. I am surprised to see that the z9 actually focus faster then a dslr with a tc attached to the lense. That is great news. I am going to do bif with bald eagle and the 1.4tc will come handy. Are you gonna get the new 600 f4s!! It will be amazing wirh the new electromagnetic motors and it will probably also have the 1.4 integrated tc 😀
Thanks Steve, as always, a great video with excellent content. One question, any idea on how the Z models with Sigma 150-60mm and Tamron G2 lens
Thanks again for your help. My Z9 is arriving tomorrow. Very excited. Looking forward to your field review and set up guide. What are your thoughts on the soon to be released 400 mm 2.8 TC S?
None yet :) I gotta see get it in-hand first (if I get one - that thing is probably going to be really expensive).
This will be nice for me as a student on a budget. I buy all preowned f-glass so when I do go Z mount I’ll be fine
I just got my Z9, and will use it with 500mm PF. I hope, Steve, you'll soon share your custom settings for your Z9, and update your ebook. I'm sure you will. Thanks.
Great review, I still find it hard to give up my D780 and D7500 for a z6
Hopefully you will post all your Z9 settings for wildlife photography like you've done with other cameras. Thanks
Hi Steve, thanks for the informative video. If you ever revisit the subject, it would be helpful to include information regarding manual focus (ai/ais) lenses. I know they're not often used for wildlife photography, other than maybe the 400mm f/3.5, but there're they're still damn good and often used for photography and video.
I put my old 300 f/2.8 F mount exotic with a TC1.4 and got effectively 420mm @ f/4. With my Z9, focus is fast and accurate. I don’t need to spend $14k to get 400mm. Yes, I know the Z is faster and sharper, but it’s nice to be able to use glass I already own.
Once again, Class leading and informative video, Steve! This was very interesting! I was a little surprised by the speed tests. Looks like the Z9 is shaping up and ‘living up’ to all of the expectations ahead of its launch.
These are premium primes, but It would be interesting to see the difference when using zooms, especially variable aperture zooms, i.e. the 80-400? Just a thought?
Picked up a few of your e-books recently, and enjoying them while recovering from Covid. Take care and stay safe and Healthy!
I don't have any Nikon F-Mount zooms anymore, but my feeling is that they would focus at the same speed they do on F-mount bodies.
@@backcountrygallery just wondering if the D850 was using a enel18 in the vertical grip during your af speed test or the standard enel15? Does the battery used help explain the af speed difference?
@@samo81 It had the ENEL-18 in the grip, fully charged. The D850 and for that matter the D5/6 never cranked a lens with a TC on it like that before.
@@backcountrygallery the tc results are interesting, one curiosity I have is if the D850 af speed slows down with an enel15 instead? The speed difference between the Z6 and Z9 has me wondering where the speed difference actually comes from.
The tc results suprise me less because of the light loss the dslr has from splitting the light through the reflex mirror. How does a 2x tc do on the Z9 in af speed? Just for reference my Z5 can autofocus with a slow f13 combo. (Tamron 100-400 + tc2x)
@@samo81 I had a lot of questions about the batteries in the D850 and just tested it both ways - there is no difference in speed. In both cases, the D850 focuses my 600 F/4E in 1/2 second. I don't have a 2X to test (I never liked the F-mount 2x so I don't have one)
Excellent detailed and practical video. Maybe more relevant if you can run those speed test with either d5 or d6? Thanks always for your hard and generous work.
I no longer own either one. Had to sell the D6 for the Z9. No sponsors, so all of this has to come out of my own pocket. Still, in my experience with the D5/6, it doesn't drive the overall AF speed any faster than the D850. They are more accurate with their initial locks, but there's more to that than just speed.
@@backcountrygalleryI just asked an hour ago! it is refreshing to have someone so involved and unbiased. Thank you.