I Really feel like weapons break too quickly they generally get damaged in one gun fight so you end up having to carry three guns as back up, if you can not find repair kits... ppl tend to hoard repair kits so they can still be hard to find... When you consider an AK can fire over 3000 rounds before even needing a clean in RL, it's just not realistic to have to carry three AR'S just in case one breaks... 140 rounds to damaged is just unbalanced, it has actually put me off playing of late.
Does the durability of weapons/suppressors degrade after more and more uses? Like say you repair a weapon/suppressor 10 times, does it degrade faster? Did you notice that all during testing?
I have no idea about the number of hours of work is needed to produce this 10 minutes video, but i really hope you get enough money and/or pleasure for every second it takes. We are lucky to have you, i don't think every Video Game has it's Wobo. Long Live DayZ, Long live Wobo!
I believe you missed a little detail about, when you are reloading a magazine, the bullets being put in will also degrade the magazine. Ive seen this happen to me as I watch the number increase in magazine and witnessed the colour dot change from yellow to orange. So be mindful of that too. 😊
The repairing right before item becomes badly damaged can be used on everything, really good if you're building a base and need logs, planks and large stones to maximize the usage of sharpening stone.
I’d rather see a buff to suppressors than to see them stay the same. Think about how many hours we put in to get NBC gear, just to have them ruin in minutes. Seems like a big waste of time.
Suppressors in DayZ for me as somewhat of a weapons expert irl have always been really annoying. Military suppressors can easily take 5000 rounds if you allow them some cooldown time between mags. 5000 Rounds is when military routinely replaces them but they could go for much longer. No telling how long a B&T Rotex or a Shurefire RC2 would actually last till its unsafe to shoot them. DayZ devs say suppressors dont last long for balancing reasons, they dont want everyone on the server to have one and dump mags like theres no tomorrow. I would love them to last a long time but instead to simply be very rare. Makes so much more sence if you ask me.
Suppressors last wayyyyyyyy longer than 5000 rounds, lol. They don’t require servicing, or cleaning really, and “military suppressor” is such a non-starter of a term. What I personally own is better than what the US military uses, lol. If you go back far enough in time (the 1980’s) silencers did need re-coring more often, especially the ones from Europe which were built very poorly. So even though we don’t get to keep our suppressors pristine very long in-game, it isn’t totally unrealistic. Except for the Standardized silencer wearing out in-game. That’s clearly modeled after AAC M4-2000, which is still one of the best 5.56 cans, even today, possessing tremendous durability.
I've personally watched mags go damaged just from being reloaded. Especially 100+ round mags. They'll be pristine or worn when you start filling them then worn or damaged when you finish without firing a single shot.
Yeah, I could swear I remember one of my kits having a pristine mag, then after a few reloads I looked at it and it was worn. Although I suppose it's possible I had it in my shirt and a zombie smacked me. I know one time I got in a firefight with a player and they actually destroyed the mag in my rifle and I couldn't keep shooting lmao.
Yeah I swear everything you find in this game is like one or two uses away from degrading to the next level. It happens to me all the time, find a pristine mag? Load it up and it's worn. Find a worn suppressor? Fire two shots and it's damaged. It's so freaking tiring.
Wobo, something i noticed about magazines, loading and unloading bullets to/from the mag will reduce durability. may need testing, but was surprising. thanks for what you do man, cheers!
Top tips ❤ Weapons wear too quickly. Suppressors I can understand needing more maintenance. I can understand a gun needs cleaning regularly, but to "use up" a cleaning kit so quickly is ridiculous. Maybe add a "gun repair" kit that would be the only way to repair a gun, then have the maintenance kit smaller and have more uses?
I agree. Suppressors wear so quickly and I have to have like 3+ for my Glock at all times. This and the weapon repair kit should just be more rare but last much longer.
Suppressors irl especially welded suppressors like those found on centerfire intermediate caliber rifles require very little maintenance and are usually considered self cleaning due to the amount of gas that blows back into the rifle and out the muzzle, the only thing that happens is lead buildup in the baffles which leads to increased weight and slightly less efficient sound suppression due to the lead displacement resulting in less volume in the suppressor.
You can also use that gun cleaning kit trick on sharping stones and leather kits to make them last longer. It’s a really useful trick when resources are scarce. I also noticed that magazines damage from reloads. I was reloading a worn KAM mag and it went from worn to damaged. I’m pretty sure I even recorded it
i always thought that zombies just specifically targeted the suppressors when hitting you, but now i know it's just because they have such little health compared to literally any other item
Which, in reality, is totally unrealistic. Same with suppressors running down so fast in the game because suppressors irl can fire like 10,000 rounds before they wear
It’s good to use the same repair technique with clothing, especially shoes; if your kicks become damaged, run them out for a bit longer instead of instantly repairing and you can massively extend the life of them sexy black trail shoes.
Same...I'm heartbroken because my current setup is a suppressed AKM...and it has been for a while since its one of my favorite in the game. I have realized that the AKM suppressor EATS cleaning kits like its a buffet - guess I know the reason now. Never fire full auto when you have a full 75 round magazine and there's a suppressor attached.
Thanks so much for the video! Did you ever investigate sniper rifle off hand shooting precision? wonder if it’s just random or has a design to it. Sometimes i feel like projectile tends to skew to the right where gun model is but hard to tell
I do the same to extend the life of sharpening stones when using tools. I take it as close to the lower level as possible before repairing. As always, amazing video for us all. Thank you. ❤
Just loading magazines causes them to wear down over time too. I have seen it a couple times that they go from prestine to worn after I inserted a single bullet.
always had a suspicion it worked like this, during big raids it seemed to make sense to shoot well past damaged but not quite to badly damaged then repair weapons & suppressors. thanks for confirming wobo ❤
The weapon repair trick also works on saws! I've been doing that since I started Dayz on console, it's very helpful because you can count how many circles you do while sawing plank piles to be able to do the same
*KEEP IN MIND that in real life...silencers often outlast the gun. Also keep in mind there's USPs in the real world thats been fired over 250,000 times.* I'm not saying we should get rid of weapon durability...but we should significantly increase it. I know there are mods for that, and its a zombie survival game...but I wish there's as much realism as possible on Official/Vanilla. We should also significantly decrease the speed/ability to repair guns. In real life you would need to order parts when something breaks. It would make more sense that you would have to disassemble another gun of the same type...combine it with a cleaning kit...in order to repair that specific gun. So essentially what I'm asking for is...weapon kits no longer clean weapons. You have to combine a cleaning kit with a donor or donor weapons (can be badly damaged)...in order to create a specific cleaning kit. I know its not a perfect system...but it would make a lot more sense. You would be physically picking the best parts from each of the weapons you put into the kit...and combining them to make yours "brand new" again.
Great video and tons of useful information, as usual. Thanks a bunch WOBO! Silencers are probably one of my biggest gripes about DayZ, along with how quickly the weapons degrade. I own half a dozen suppressors, and aside from the .22lr cans, they literally require ZERO maintenance or cleaning. I pop open and clean my .22lr silencer every 500-1000 rounds. 10,000 rounds later it still works fine. My oldest silencer is a 5.56 can and has well over 5,000 rounds through it with zero cleaning or maintenance, and it works just as good as it did brand new 16 years ago. Oh and the improvised suppressors need to go, they are an absolute joke and simply do not work in real life.
Not that sharpening stones are as rare, but you can use the same trick for repairing tools with them. As in, use the saw at damaged 3 times and it's one use off badly damaged (from memory?), then repair it.
I'm glad to know this works with guns aswell! One thing I have learnt playing dayZ myself is using the same formula on handsaws and sharpening stones while gathering planks (for example). You'll notice if you do so for long enough your soft skill has an impact! Take care out there survivors
Everything related to weapon maintenance needs a buff. I would pick up a worn gun and have to use up my cleaning kit within an hour of playing(not fighting players). Suppressors should be buffed just a bit more as well. Theres a lot of videos online showcasing suppressor durability, and all of them last more than 150-250 shots, CONTINUOUSLY.
Agreed. Unfortunately it’s just another example of a developer who’s out of touch with a portion of their subject matter. Yes, hardcore survival, but also… Community servers. Lol.
Nice video, great. State of the ammo also changes how much damage will gun take from each shot. Pristine ammo will do less damage to your gun than badly damaged ammo.
Suppressors should be very durable. Unless abused (several hundred rounds of automatic fire without stopping) they should last for thousands of rounds. Weapon durability should be increased as well but have them wear down faster with a suppressor attached, at least with semiautomatic firearms. The increased back pressure means harder cycling and that can cause premature wear on internal parts as opposed to non-suppressed firing.
Agreed. Re-coring even a 1980’s model “in the field” wouldn’t be feasible, and center-fire cans don’t need cleaning. Makes it all a bit silly in a survival game.
Are you sure about the magazines not being damaged by shooting? I swear I was going HAM with an Amphibia last night and the mag went from damaged to badly damaged...
Suppressors need 2-3 times the about of durability, fire arms in general need a 1.25 times durability buff as well. Suppressors irl last between 300-400 CONTINUOUS rounds. But, I think 200-400 (depending on the ammo) would make more sense. For the game sake Firearms can last a few thousand rounds before needing to be cleaned. AKs more than others.
They need to implement a da.age modifier for suppresors. Like, if you shoot full auto, maybe after 5 shots the damage increases by .5. So the best way to use suppresors is by shooting semi, and letting the suppresor "breath" for 1 or 2 seconds for the modifier to reset, so the 6th shot fired im semi with a bit of rest, doesnt increase by .5 dmg.
@@bobstupaksvegasworld4098 I can agree with that on folding stocks and the ability to fold them, mostly because the skorpion looks trashy with an unfolded stock.
Same can be said for sharpening stones, for instance, cutting wood piles with a handsaw or hacksaw. You count 3 or 4 circles worth after the colour change to yellow.. so it's one step before 'badly damaged' 🍻
Just a random request for a FAMAS G2 Felin (Pic rails and Stanag mags) would be an incredible rifle and would be another flavor of the AUG A1/AX, 74u/74, M16/M4 upgrade theme.
Can you possibly do one on the mags and their durability or add it in a vid someday? I have mags go damaged as i load em into either the gun or bullets into the mag i cant figure it out tbh 😅
Good to know and to answer your question I don't think anyone would count their shots to min max their reparability as it's not a skill that makes the difference between life and death and good players are already counting shots in their magazine witch is a life and death data to keep in mind. I think I already implicitly thought the weapon repair kit would bump your durability to the next level whether or not you were one shot away from degrading it or you just entered the degraded state, and I thought this rule applied to every repair kits of any kind. It's good to know, for sure this time, and to have a scope of the formula. I would rather have a change to the suppressor so they are more durable. They could add a stat modifier when you full auto 30-60-75 rounders that use the suppressor more as it would suffer from heat. I could see a stat that grows while you keep your finger on mouse 1 and resets itself when you stop holding. They would have to buff the original durability "armor" of the suppressor a lot for that to happen but I can see that as a good balance.
Interesting that the CR-75 lasts almost 150 shots more than the glock. I always considered them the same and basically interchangeable, but with the same ammo, magainze capacity, and attachment options, seems like the CR-75 is basically a direct upgrade
I won't be counting shots I will still repair damaged weapons right after they've gone to this state (it's crutial in fights) I will definitely be using information in this video to save some gun kits on suppressors, as they work exactly the same regardless of durability
Are the current armor stats on the weapon damage drop off tool up to date? And do you plan on adding the chain mail to this as well to factor it with and without armor?
Hopefully these findings help the devs make some needed changes to weapon/suppressor durability. They can maintain the games authenticity and balance in the process.
@W0B0 a Question. In one short portion you drop the yellow box filled with suppressors and shot it. The items had been loaded in horizontal positions and the Top 3 were ruined but the bottom one was still Pristine. Is that normal for stored item damage? Whether top to bottom or left to right, is there a Pattern of which items get ruined first?
I find being able to attach a suppressor on a 380, then a 9mm, then a 45, is a little boring, I'd rather there was a type of suppressor for each ammo type. Obviously the bottle suppressor doesn't care about ammo type, but the manufactured ones should.
You can fit bigger suppressors on smaller calibers it just doesn’t work (as well) but it still definitely works Also .380 and 9mm use the same suppressors I’m like 90% sure
Hi. I am almost sure the Buckshot bug is back again. Only one of the pelets hit. I shot a freshspawn twice with a double barrel and he only got two bleeds. Have you had the same experience with buckshots recently after the update?
They could just multiply the barrel damage done to suppressors and the health by the same number, it would just increase its durability in every instance but shooting.
few hours ago after over a week firing around 10mags from my worn sval killing zombies(no players to find at area 42) finally a player run at me and my worn sval (prestine mag) jammed after 2 shots. i even janged my twich handle to jammedguncurse month ago after i got 4 jammed guns in 5 figherfits. there is only one that would be fair, the abbility to get your gun back to prestice, if it would take 1 cleaningkit from worn to prestice or whatever but this is a nightmare, maybe they can add a rediclious minimal chance that a gun can jamm while prestice to get a little bit realisam, but this is redic. the silencer thing can stay like it is. dayz is possibly the game with most bugs of all time, then at least you should have trusty weapons.
a very interesting system. i feel the game would be vastly improved by removing it completely and replacing it with a simpler deduction of durability when a bullet is fired with no extra math needed
Shots To Ruin Ranks: wobo.tools/dayz-single-weapon-stat-tool?weapon_stat=Shots_To_Ruin#Top
I Really feel like weapons break too quickly they generally get damaged in one gun fight so you end up having to carry three guns as back up, if you can not find repair kits...
ppl tend to hoard repair kits so they can still be hard to find... When you consider an AK can fire over 3000 rounds before even needing a clean in RL, it's just not realistic to have to carry three AR'S just in case one breaks... 140 rounds to damaged is just unbalanced, it has actually put me off playing of late.
Does the durability of weapons/suppressors degrade after more and more uses? Like say you repair a weapon/suppressor 10 times, does it degrade faster? Did you notice that all during testing?
@@VenomousSnake14 Nope
Have you tested if hitting with the butt of a rifle damages the rifle? @@WOBO
@@Pepesmasher Good point. I didn't check. I'll look into it.
I have no idea about the number of hours of work is needed to produce this 10 minutes video, but i really hope you get enough money and/or pleasure for every second it takes. We are lucky to have you, i don't think every Video Game has it's Wobo. Long Live DayZ, Long live Wobo!
I believe you missed a little detail about, when you are reloading a magazine, the bullets being put in will also degrade the magazine. Ive seen this happen to me as I watch the number increase in magazine and witnessed the colour dot change from yellow to orange. So be mindful of that too. 😊
Wears them down taking the bullets out aswell
@@emmanuelpatterson1082 yup u be right 😊
Adjust glasses and pulls up socks
I will definitely be testing the 7200 shots on the flare gun on official dayz servers
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I have its easy
GL finding flares 🙃
And on console
All the guns should last that long, and even then they'd be way less durable than a real gun.
The repairing right before item becomes badly damaged can be used on everything, really good if you're building a base and need logs, planks and large stones to maximize the usage of sharpening stone.
Yeah, this was obvious to me, lol.
Large Stones? Which tool to mine them can be repaired?
@@philippd5743 pickaxe
I have been waiting for these stats for a LOOONG time. Thanks WouBou
I’d rather see a buff to suppressors than to see them stay the same. Think about how many hours we put in to get NBC gear, just to have them ruin in minutes. Seems like a big waste of time.
Yeah they wear out way too fast
Agreed it basically makes official impossible as a solo player to really stock up unless you just camp a gas zone.
Make both suppressors last around 250 shots then make it 350 for the 74's and 125 for the svd
Duct tape and repair kits keep mine in business
2/3 hours max to get a full NBC suit with filters
Suppressors in DayZ for me as somewhat of a weapons expert irl have always been really annoying. Military suppressors can easily take 5000 rounds if you allow them some cooldown time between mags. 5000 Rounds is when military routinely replaces them but they could go for much longer. No telling how long a B&T Rotex or a Shurefire RC2 would actually last till its unsafe to shoot them. DayZ devs say suppressors dont last long for balancing reasons, they dont want everyone on the server to have one and dump mags like theres no tomorrow. I would love them to last a long time but instead to simply be very rare. Makes so much more sence if you ask me.
Suppressors last wayyyyyyyy longer than 5000 rounds, lol. They don’t require servicing, or cleaning really, and “military suppressor” is such a non-starter of a term. What I personally own is better than what the US military uses, lol.
If you go back far enough in time (the 1980’s) silencers did need re-coring more often, especially the ones from Europe which were built very poorly. So even though we don’t get to keep our suppressors pristine very long in-game, it isn’t totally unrealistic.
Except for the Standardized silencer wearing out in-game. That’s clearly modeled after AAC M4-2000, which is still one of the best 5.56 cans, even today, possessing tremendous durability.
Plenty of RC2s at well over 10k rounds but of course that would be wayyyy to op
The devs are so stupid.. can't even kill 2 infected with a knife without being damaged
@RandomGyro_ yeah, they last longer, he didn't say that, he said military swaps them out.
Realistically, usually i die faster than i can ruin my supressor
I've personally watched mags go damaged just from being reloaded. Especially 100+ round mags. They'll be pristine or worn when you start filling them then worn or damaged when you finish without firing a single shot.
Interesting! I’d be interested to find out exactly how many buttlets can be loaded between pristine to ruined
Yeah, I could swear I remember one of my kits having a pristine mag, then after a few reloads I looked at it and it was worn. Although I suppose it's possible I had it in my shirt and a zombie smacked me. I know one time I got in a firefight with a player and they actually destroyed the mag in my rifle and I couldn't keep shooting lmao.
Yeah I swear everything you find in this game is like one or two uses away from degrading to the next level. It happens to me all the time, find a pristine mag? Load it up and it's worn. Find a worn suppressor? Fire two shots and it's damaged. It's so freaking tiring.
Wobo, something i noticed about magazines, loading and unloading bullets to/from the mag will reduce durability. may need testing, but was surprising. thanks for what you do man, cheers!
Top tips ❤
Weapons wear too quickly.
Suppressors I can understand needing more maintenance. I can understand a gun needs cleaning regularly, but to "use up" a cleaning kit so quickly is ridiculous.
Maybe add a "gun repair" kit that would be the only way to repair a gun, then have the maintenance kit smaller and have more uses?
I agree. Suppressors wear so quickly and I have to have like 3+ for my Glock at all times. This and the weapon repair kit should just be more rare but last much longer.
Fair point, but I find weapon cleaning kits are plentiful enough for it not to bother me.
Suppressors irl especially welded suppressors like those found on centerfire intermediate caliber rifles require very little maintenance and are usually considered self cleaning due to the amount of gas that blows back into the rifle and out the muzzle, the only thing that happens is lead buildup in the baffles which leads to increased weight and slightly less efficient sound suppression due to the lead displacement resulting in less volume in the suppressor.
You can also use that gun cleaning kit trick on sharping stones and leather kits to make them last longer. It’s a really useful trick when resources are scarce.
I also noticed that magazines damage from reloads. I was reloading a worn KAM mag and it went from worn to damaged. I’m pretty sure I even recorded it
It's absurd how much work you've done and are still doing in understanding the literal guts of the game.
i always thought that zombies just specifically targeted the suppressors when hitting you, but now i know it's just because they have such little health compared to literally any other item
Always keep extra suppressors, explosives etc. Inside of a teddy bear, cooking pot, protective case etc.
Which, in reality, is totally unrealistic. Same with suppressors running down so fast in the game because suppressors irl can fire like 10,000 rounds before they wear
They do tho, zombies can actually destroy your supressors just by hitting you, which is ridiculous
Yep I try to keep improvised suppressors in a butt pack or back pack, since I typically don't get hit in the back by zombies
yeah but they also destroy other things, it just takes way longer because those items have substantially more health than suppressors @@iitschilly6969
It’s good to use the same repair technique with clothing, especially shoes; if your kicks become damaged, run them out for a bit longer instead of instantly repairing and you can massively extend the life of them sexy black trail shoes.
Absolutely insane that the AKM and SVD have the same shots to ruin for the suppressor, AKM got shafted bigtime here
Same...I'm heartbroken because my current setup is a suppressed AKM...and it has been for a while since its one of my favorite in the game. I have realized that the AKM suppressor EATS cleaning kits like its a buffet - guess I know the reason now. Never fire full auto when you have a full 75 round magazine and there's a suppressor attached.
Thank you WOBO for making dayZ's ridiculously complicated weapon stats system (and everything else) make sense in my tiny brain.
Thanks so much for the video! Did you ever investigate sniper rifle off hand shooting precision? wonder if it’s just random or has a design to it. Sometimes i feel like projectile tends to skew to the right where gun model is but hard to tell
I do the same to extend the life of sharpening stones when using tools. I take it as close to the lower level as possible before repairing. As always, amazing video for us all. Thank you. ❤
Just loading magazines causes them to wear down over time too. I have seen it a couple times that they go from prestine to worn after I inserted a single bullet.
always had a suspicion it worked like this, during big raids it seemed to make sense to shoot well past damaged but not quite to badly damaged then repair weapons & suppressors.
thanks for confirming wobo ❤
The weapon repair trick also works on saws! I've been doing that since I started Dayz on console, it's very helpful because you can count how many circles you do while sawing plank piles to be able to do the same
I've been using a private server to test the weapons since the durability changes. Good to see you cover it
Wobo just being a goat as always, appreciate the videos my dude!
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*KEEP IN MIND that in real life...silencers often outlast the gun. Also keep in mind there's USPs in the real world thats been fired over 250,000 times.* I'm not saying we should get rid of weapon durability...but we should significantly increase it. I know there are mods for that, and its a zombie survival game...but I wish there's as much realism as possible on Official/Vanilla.
We should also significantly decrease the speed/ability to repair guns. In real life you would need to order parts when something breaks. It would make more sense that you would have to disassemble another gun of the same type...combine it with a cleaning kit...in order to repair that specific gun. So essentially what I'm asking for is...weapon kits no longer clean weapons. You have to combine a cleaning kit with a donor or donor weapons (can be badly damaged)...in order to create a specific cleaning kit. I know its not a perfect system...but it would make a lot more sense. You would be physically picking the best parts from each of the weapons you put into the kit...and combining them to make yours "brand new" again.
"Become the master of silence" - Splinter Cell
This is pure game science. Love you @WOBO ❤
and if you smack someone with buttstock, which also takes a chunk of that weapons durability, you can stop counting 🙃
Thanks Professor! 👍 Your repair trick works with boots and shoes and leather kits too.
not sure why i got sucked back into this game or why its seeing a resurgence but im here for it
You know it’s a good day when WOBO posts
What an amazing detail you've found. Excellent job
Great video and tons of useful information, as usual. Thanks a bunch WOBO!
Silencers are probably one of my biggest gripes about DayZ, along with how quickly the weapons degrade. I own half a dozen suppressors, and aside from the .22lr cans, they literally require ZERO maintenance or cleaning. I pop open and clean my .22lr silencer every 500-1000 rounds. 10,000 rounds later it still works fine. My oldest silencer is a 5.56 can and has well over 5,000 rounds through it with zero cleaning or maintenance, and it works just as good as it did brand new 16 years ago. Oh and the improvised suppressors need to go, they are an absolute joke and simply do not work in real life.
Thanks #WOBO we appreciate it. I'm 300 shots I on the signal flare 😅
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Not that sharpening stones are as rare, but you can use the same trick for repairing tools with them. As in, use the saw at damaged 3 times and it's one use off badly damaged (from memory?), then repair it.
This does work, yes
I'm glad to know this works with guns aswell!
One thing I have learnt playing dayZ myself is using the same formula on handsaws and sharpening stones while gathering planks (for example). You'll notice if you do so for long enough your soft skill has an impact! Take care out there survivors
The intro throwing the weapon to the other player is epic!. 😂😂😂😂
Everything related to weapon maintenance needs a buff. I would pick up a worn gun and have to use up my cleaning kit within an hour of playing(not fighting players). Suppressors should be buffed just a bit more as well. Theres a lot of videos online showcasing suppressor durability, and all of them last more than 150-250 shots, CONTINUOUSLY.
Agreed. Unfortunately it’s just another example of a developer who’s out of touch with a portion of their subject matter. Yes, hardcore survival, but also… Community servers. Lol.
Nice video, great. State of the ammo also changes how much damage will gun take from each shot. Pristine ammo will do less damage to your gun than badly damaged ammo.
Suppressors should be very durable. Unless abused (several hundred rounds of automatic fire without stopping) they should last for thousands of rounds. Weapon durability should be increased as well but have them wear down faster with a suppressor attached, at least with semiautomatic firearms. The increased back pressure means harder cycling and that can cause premature wear on internal parts as opposed to non-suppressed firing.
If like to see improvised suppressor from pipes that last a little longer than the bottles but only for rifles
Been wanting this for years. 🙌 A water bottle covered in duct tape is such a silly idea, lol.
Once again, helpful video!
Unlike snoozing devs. Wouldnt try to make The game better even if they got free hands and unlimted money.
.22 caliber is very dirty, I definitely can't get 700 rounds out of my Ruger 10/22 before it becomes a bolt action lol
it frequently jams even when it's pristine
Especially suppressed. The can gets junked up way before then.
I think the best durability option for suppressors in this game would be to make them approximately five times more durable but unable to be repaired.
Agreed. Re-coring even a 1980’s model “in the field” wouldn’t be feasible, and center-fire cans don’t need cleaning. Makes it all a bit silly in a survival game.
Durability stats should correspond linearly with the 'damage state' e.g
Remember when duct tape fixed guns and suppressors good times.
Pepperidge Farm remembers
Great information as always.
Are you sure about the magazines not being damaged by shooting? I swear I was going HAM with an Amphibia last night and the mag went from damaged to badly damaged...
Suppressors need 2-3 times the about of durability, fire arms in general need a 1.25 times durability buff as well.
Suppressors irl last between 300-400 CONTINUOUS rounds. But, I think 200-400 (depending on the ammo) would make more sense. For the game sake
Firearms can last a few thousand rounds before needing to be cleaned. AKs more than others.
Suppressors IRL last hundreds of thousands of rounds. Where are people getting these numbers? Lol.
Thank You Wobo!
Imagine if weapons in real life wore down as fast in this game. Weapon manufacturers would be sued into oblivion.
They need to implement a da.age modifier for suppresors. Like, if you shoot full auto, maybe after 5 shots the damage increases by .5. So the best way to use suppresors is by shooting semi, and letting the suppresor "breath" for 1 or 2 seconds for the modifier to reset, so the 6th shot fired im semi with a bit of rest, doesnt increase by .5 dmg.
Good info WOBO!!!
God I just want a 308 suppressor
I learned it's similar while mining rocks and sharpening your pickaxe. I count my swings lol
Weapons cleaning kits take up 6 slots yet only work 4 times. That should be changed to either 4 slots 4 uses or 6 slots 6 uses.
That's an odd point to make, but it saves my inventory so sure. Sewing kits get two less uses.
@@zomzee Weapons that have removable butt stocks or fore grips should take up less room when said items are removed.
@@bobstupaksvegasworld4098 I can agree with that on folding stocks and the ability to fold them, mostly because the skorpion looks trashy with an unfolded stock.
These guns are made of aluminum. But they have a tungsten weight inside of them as they weigh alot.
Same can be said for sharpening stones, for instance, cutting wood piles with a handsaw or hacksaw. You count 3 or 4 circles worth after the colour change to yellow.. so it's one step before 'badly damaged' 🍻
Just a random request for a FAMAS G2 Felin (Pic rails and Stanag mags) would be an incredible rifle and would be another flavor of the AUG A1/AX, 74u/74, M16/M4 upgrade theme.
Great vidéo as always
thanks for making the video i asked you for
Seee....things mustve changed. I distinctly remember seeing a 60rnd mag drop from pristine to worn whilst in the reloading rounds into it animation.
Wobos such a legend
Awsomwe! But it look like my supressor is different, sending me to the coast
Oddly enough I did have one instance where my magazine dropped from pristine to worn sometime while reloading it. Wonder what that was about.
I once found a badly damaged ak 101 mag. I got half way through loading it and it went ruined.
Brilliant and engaging game design
Can you possibly do one on the mags and their durability or add it in a vid someday? I have mags go damaged as i load em into either the gun or bullets into the mag i cant figure it out tbh 😅
WOBO you do such a good job.
My suggestion to the suppressor matrix is to make suppressors harder to find....spwan less..... But last longer.
They already only spawn in gas zones lmao
@@slavmagician2898 then i suggest making them last longer lol.
THANK YOU WOBO!!!!!
Just like everything else, they have Broken ...... thanks for the heads up wobo
A Suppressor's low durability level is one of my pet-hates in DayZ!
What about magazines damage stats ? I damaged an akm drum mag by loading it last time, didn't know it was a thing
Good to know and to answer your question I don't think anyone would count their shots to min max their reparability as it's not a skill that makes the difference between life and death and good players are already counting shots in their magazine witch is a life and death data to keep in mind.
I think I already implicitly thought the weapon repair kit would bump your durability to the next level whether or not you were one shot away from degrading it or you just entered the degraded state, and I thought this rule applied to every repair kits of any kind. It's good to know, for sure this time, and to have a scope of the formula. I would rather have a change to the suppressor so they are more durable.
They could add a stat modifier when you full auto 30-60-75 rounders that use the suppressor more as it would suffer from heat. I could see a stat that grows while you keep your finger on mouse 1 and resets itself when you stop holding. They would have to buff the original durability "armor" of the suppressor a lot for that to happen but I can see that as a good balance.
This tool is so useful for raiding
thank you for the video
The magazines get damaged per round loaded into it. Condition of ammo affect the damage done to the mag.
Bolt action rifles take damage when loading and unloading ammo as well
The magazine definitely takes “damage” or uses durability whenever you are actually loading rounds into it I believe.
Interesting that the CR-75 lasts almost 150 shots more than the glock. I always considered them the same and basically interchangeable, but with the same ammo, magainze capacity, and attachment options, seems like the CR-75 is basically a direct upgrade
I won't be counting shots
I will still repair damaged weapons right after they've gone to this state (it's crutial in fights)
I will definitely be using information in this video to save some gun kits on suppressors, as they work exactly the same regardless of durability
loading rounds into the magazines did definitely damage them(the mags). it happened many a time
@WOBO, does armour piercing ammo wear out the rifle quicker than standard ammo of the same calibre in DayZ? Love your work 👍🇦🇺
Watch the video..
Are the current armor stats on the weapon damage drop off tool up to date? And do you plan on adding the chain mail to this as well to factor it with and without armor?
Hopefully these findings help the devs make some needed changes to weapon/suppressor durability. They can maintain the games authenticity and balance in the process.
What about meleeing with your gun, does it also not damage it? And what is the formula for that
@W0B0 a Question. In one short portion you drop the yellow box filled with suppressors and shot it. The items had been loaded in horizontal positions and the Top 3 were ruined but the bottom one was still Pristine. Is that normal for stored item damage? Whether top to bottom or left to right, is there a Pattern of which items get ruined first?
I find being able to attach a suppressor on a 380, then a 9mm, then a 45, is a little boring, I'd rather there was a type of suppressor for each ammo type. Obviously the bottle suppressor doesn't care about ammo type, but the manufactured ones should.
You can fit bigger suppressors on smaller calibers it just doesn’t work (as well) but it still definitely works
Also .380 and 9mm use the same suppressors I’m like 90% sure
How many things do you have to repair to get your soft-skill all the way to the left? I've wanted to know this for years...
Hi. I am almost sure the Buckshot bug is back again. Only one of the pelets hit. I shot a freshspawn twice with a double barrel and he only got two bleeds. Have you had the same experience with buckshots recently after the update?
Hey Wobo is there any chance you can use your influence to encourage Bohemia to take legal action against the ghost mode and lag switch programs??
What about loading or unloading mags? I don't know if this is a mod but I've seen my mag go damaged from worn while unloading ammo.
I didn't quite get the repairing thing 😢
Is this the same song from Mass Effect?
if a weapon spawns in as worn is it at max worn durability or does it spawn somewhere in between worn?
They could just multiply the barrel damage done to suppressors and the health by the same number, it would just increase its durability in every instance but shooting.
few hours ago after over a week firing around 10mags from my worn sval killing zombies(no players to find at area 42) finally a player run at me and my worn sval (prestine mag) jammed after 2 shots. i even janged my twich handle to jammedguncurse month ago after i got 4 jammed guns in 5 figherfits. there is only one that would be fair, the abbility to get your gun back to prestice, if it would take 1 cleaningkit from worn to prestice or whatever but this is a nightmare, maybe they can add a rediclious minimal chance that a gun can jamm while prestice to get a little bit realisam, but this is redic. the silencer thing can stay like it is. dayz is possibly the game with most bugs of all time, then at least you should have trusty weapons.
a very interesting system. i feel the game would be vastly improved by removing it completely and replacing it with a simpler deduction of durability when a bullet is fired with no extra math needed
What’s another option?