Will the Kraken Bounce Back in 2024-25?
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Seattle is entering year four as an NHL team and want to make the playoffs for the second time.
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The moves made in the offseason indicates that the team will switch more towards a transitional style of attack. Hopefully Matty can bounce back, and we’re totally pumped to have Shane up here full-time. He was our main bright spot after things went sour after the trade deadline.
As good as Benier will be, he plays too roughshot for a lighter framed guy. Wrigh has the size & skill combination and because of that I think he will be the #2 centre on Sea by yrs end - & will eventually supplant everyone to be the teams best fwd
No too early to predict this in my humble opinion.
You guys don’t seem to realize that wright will never be a #2 center at the nhl level, he will be a #3 at best. I doubt he will even be a regular nhler
@@julienbeaudry-tardif7982ok there
I'm really hoping that Wright and Evans take the next step.
Vince Dunn is gonna hold the line. Also: this is such a majestic board man, wtf.
My take is that the team overperformed in year 2 and underperformed in year 3, so hopefully this year we see a team which plays as well as it is and is also playoff-caliber
Kings and Kraken will be vying for the same wildcard spot, I feel.
Only because the Pacific is probably the weakest division again, they technically have 3.5 rebuilding teams. But Pacific in 2 or 3 yrs will be a powerhouse potentially & vie for best division overall (Ana, SJ, Sea, even Cgy are drafting & obtaining assets nicely)
More likely Kings and Golden Knights. Jonathan Marchessault pretty much was the latter team’s engine, and since he went to Nashville, they will have to rely on Jack Eichel, and that has to be a question mark right now. At this point, the Kraken are a safer pick to finish third in the Pacific than them.
Vs the blues and wild for the 9th spot lol
@@AnoobisSaibotisas much as I'd like this to happen, the Knights have done more with less. It will come down to how the Kraken play under Bylsma, I think.
Dunn's pace was exactly the same, as the previous year, prorated for number of game at .79 points per game.
That's very reassuring!
So, this season? 43 GP - 8 goals, 26 assists.
Seattle is my pick to really surprise people this year.
Appreciate the jinx
I was at the first game Matty Beniers played in the NHL. That kid is going to be a star and I think he really bounces back this season.
fyi the teal is difficult to read on the white board
I think we'll benefit from the fact that last year was as unusually bad of an offense as the year before was unusually good. It's hard to be a statistical outlier in any direction for years on end.
I think Seattle is in the low to mid 90s, which may be good enough for a wildcard but definitely will be interesting most of the season
Thank you for talking about tye kartye, I think he has good potential and has done pretty good so far for us
Daccord is easily the number 1 goalie 2:00
I was not aware that the Stephenson and Montour contracts were so generous and LONG. Oh Boy. I hope Ron knows what he is doing.
Beniers is going to bounce back. Wright is going to impress.
i hope man
Wright is a total bust, you’ll find out soon enough lol
He had a sophomore slump but Beniers should bounce back, I mean there’s no reason why he can’t get to the player he was last year. He showed how much talent he has and I’ve watched him in person before and I know people who know him since, he’s from my area. If he has like an 80 points that could help them in a huge way. They should be a better team next year
@@bostonwarrior4824 there absolutely is a reason why Beniers won't rebound. Look at his stats for his first season and look under the hood at October - January vs January - May. Big difference. I'll save you the research, he had a great first half, then got lit up and suffered a concussion by Tyler Myers. His second half of that season was rough. That carried forward to all of last year and he was tentative and was clearly not the same player. It wasn't a "sophomore slump", that's just an excuse. For his career he's had ~40 good games to start and then 120 games that were not good.
@@tombauer5762 still has 103 points in 167 games that’s pretty good. It is a sophomore slump because when a star player like him comes in the league dominates one year putting up almost 30 goals as a rookie and then the next year he regresses that means the team got worse and some things went wrong but usually most of the time they bounce back in the next season. He still has time to develop. Look at Jack Hughes took him a year to develop but when he took stride he took off same with Laffeiere. Beniers could be just as good as them and if he plays with better line mates and the team gets better and he clicks next year don’t be surprised to see him put up 70 points.
@tombauer5762 I agree. Matty needs to bulk up a lot. He gets pushed around a lot. To his credit, he gets right back up, but this takes a toll. He either needs to get bigger, or the Kraken need someone to step in when necessary.
@@bostonwarrior4824 in general I can agree with the concept of your thoughts. But you're not addressing the fact that his production has fallen off a cliff after the concussion. Look at the splits of his year 1, 1st half vs 2nd half. Ignore the "sophomore slump". He's not the same.
Some people sleep on beds. Some people sleep on couches. And some people sleep on the SEATTLE KRAKEN!!!!
Expectations are somewhere between their 2nd year and 3rd, but closer to their 2nd. More goal scoring, but maybe not to the level they had in year 2. I'd expect them to be on of the 3-4 teams fighting for a wildcard spot, but be on the inside and make the playoffs as like a 2nd wildcard
Considering the Kraken have had one of each kind of season so far (bad, great and average), year four will sort of be the team-defining one since they’ll repeat one of those. Compared to other expansion teams, they’ve been pretty successful so far - if you omit the Vegas anomaly.
Time flies,can't believe the Kraken are already heading into Season #4
Yes! Let's go Kraken!
Pacific Division will be Vegas and Edmonton battling for top spot. Vancouver should be comfortable 3rd, and the Kraken might be a WC playoff team.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dunn puts up season 2 numbers. The main reason he missed so many games was because of Pospisil’s hit on him (which was brutal, if you haven’t seen it, it gives a whole lot more insight into why he’s been gone). I also think that Daccord is the clear starter. He had the 6th best SV% in the league I believe while playing as the starter. I also wouldn’t be surprised if they split it 50/50 though
As long as some rookies pan out and get playing time that contributes to success we will have a very good season, also Beniers needs to get 75-85 points for a breakout year
I'm thinking Berniers bounces back and Wright has a rookie season especially with Bylsma behind the bench. They really overpaid on Montour & Stephenson though.
Kartye has 229 hits last year, highest across the Kraken in all 3 of its seasons. He was 3rd across rookies and 19th in the NHL in hits. With 24 takeaways and 9 giveaways, he was 2nd amongst rookies with a +15 takeaway advantage. Reuniting with Dan & Jess, his coaches from his AHL ROTY season, I look forward to more from Karts next year!
Shane will develop , just matter of when
My money is on Daccord to be the starter, his numbers blew Gru out the water
We will see wouldn’t surprise me if Daccord becomes starter this season if Grubauer struggles. Remember Daccord played great for the most part last season and held the fort in goal while Grubauer was injured.
Been waiting for this one :)
that d core is stacked
Meh not on the defensive aspect
@@Warshipgamers lmao every guy is solid defensively.
@@GG-ng6zmMontour isn’t to name one
@@Warshipgamers yeah thats why hes getting 7m a year for 30 points right.
@@GG-ng6zm if you think Montour is strong defensively you're delusional haha ask Florida fans
85-89 battling for the 2nd wild card spot until we get another consistent offensive piece and/or one of the boys develop fast this year. Might be Shane Wright as a 4th line C, our second year we had 4 strong lines we miss Sprong but maybe it’s time for Kartye.
Shane Wright doesn't need to be buried on the 4th line... Massive error. 3C or 2C if he does well
@@frankcastle10 wouldn’t be buried depending on Dans line changing scheme in game
getting rid of Hakstol was a good move. But hard to say if its this season or next when they improve.
I'm watching for Wright. He's gonna do well.
I hope they do bounce back. I absolutely love that Yanni Gourde! A bad ass Tampa Bay product that we MISS!!!!!
Wennberg was traded to Rangers at deadline, not left as a UFA.
true and then Wennberg signed with the Sharks this summer after a brief stint with NYR.
We'll bounce back if Daccord's sophomore season measures up to his rookie outing. I like the additions, even witht he term. Matty and Francis need to get off the stick and sign his @#$% contract.
Opposing teams are going to have their hands full with the new look Kraken. Can you imagine? Here comes the Beniers line. Here comes the Stephenson line. Now we have to deal with a Wright line. Oh jeez, now the Gourde line is coming out. On top of that you are having to deal with Dunn, Montour and Evans coming at you. On top of all this, you now have a super aggressive, highly experienced coach players love to play for. All Kraken records won’t just be broken this upcoming season. They will be blown out of the water.
I love this team so much and still am gitty about NHL hockey in Seattle. With that said, I would love a division crown but this team needs a superstar to do that. Until we get one. I just see us as a wild card team.
Beniers reminds me of a Kadri-Spezza hybrid. He'll be a great player when all is said and done. Bylsma coming up with Wright and Evans is the best scenario for all three. A wildcard is definitely in the cards, and if Vegas and/or LA stumbles, that third spot could be open.
Would something Seattle Kraken go all the way
Daccord was goalie during the Kraken 8-game winning streak when the whole team played their souls out, which buffs his numbers a lot. So the starter role may not be as clear-cut as a lot of people in here seem to think.
I just moved to Seattle Thursday! And with the yotes defunct and other recent events Seattle has jumped from my 4th favorite team to my second! Go kraken!
Welcome! Just wait till you come to a game. Let's go Kraken!
Go Kraken! Beniers should probably be about a point per game player. Breakthrough season on the horizon for him. Shane Wright should be full time Kraken this season. Both Stephenson and Montour should help. If Kraken can score 3 plus goals per game and keep goals against down with solid goaltending, then playoffs are likely. OK The Hockey Guy helped me out haha. I watched the video before this comment.
Can we get a little bit more sound volume. ?
I think the Kraken are vying for a wildcard slot in the Pacific. Canucks and Oilers will still be pretty good. I expect Vegas to slip a little. I don't follow the Kings as much so if I assume that they stay about the same, they'll be in 3rd and I see VGK, SEA, and NSH bumping around for those wild-card slots. I have this feeling Vegas letting Marchessault go to the Preds is going to bite them in the rear.
As a Kraken fan, getting back into the playoffs would be great and on paper looks possible. I would also accept more scoring regardless. It was tough to watch defense to play well, but offense struggle so much. As for the contracts, I agree they're not ideal but: 1, The cap is going to go up. 2, realistically for high-end talent, after last season Seattle is probably not a desirable location to go for players wanting to make cup runs. With that in mind, we're going to have to pay a little bit of premium to begin to draw them here. So I'm hoping Montour and Stephenson, in conjunction with our existing vets and young guys finding their form, begin to build a record of success that draws more talent to it in the years to come. Thanks for the vid Shan
Bubble playoff team, I can't see us repeating a 10 game win streak to the go on a matching winless one. Now if we make the playoffs, I like our chances to surprise some people given our style of play. Still some questions on scoring with Matty, Burky, and Wright but our defense continues to improve letting some of the guys showing more liability on that end walking to free agency. I would like to see Yamamoto return but it might be less a money issue and more the number of contracts on the books. Teams are allowed 50 and according to Puckpedia we are at 51 with still needing to re-sign Matty. Not saying it is for sure just noted the possibility.
If Grubauer is the #1 over Daccord everybody in the building needs to be fired. They brought Bylsma up from Coachella specifically to get the young guys (Ryker Evans/Shane Wright/Tye Kartye) going, and he had Daccord playing at an elite level down there, they arent going back to Gru #1
stop with the daccord overhype... for one good season as of now if Gru is healthy and improves a bit more both should be 50/50 and a decent tandem
I've liked the kraken more than their recent expansion buddy Vegas precisely because they have had a more conventional growth arc. They have drafted a lot. They made a serious and cap crippling signing of Phillip Grubauer and he's been an anchor on them ever since, despite being marginally better last year. They have been a good, shot suppressing defensive team since inception and that's why Grubauer has hamstrung them and why average goaltending would serve them well.
Grubauer has never been an above average goalie for them in his three years. He had his best season last year but still had an .899 save percentage, not NHL average, he only started 34 games for them and he's buttressed by that defense that gave up the eighth fewest shots against last year. An average goalie should do better. That's 5.9 $ million they are setting on fire.
The forward group is getting old. Hopefully a Shane Wright/Jagger Firkus/Carson Reikopf/David Goyette and third year matty Berniers can inject some youthful offense into the line-up.
It's getting late in the game to expect Gourde, eberle, schwartz, Burakowsky to do it.
I want Seattle to make the playoffs and I think they could be a bubble team except I'm not sure who they replace. A good goalie to pair with d'Accord could be the difference maker.
I guess I expect Vegas, winnipeg, st Louis to be worse, but that much worse. Maybe Seattle gets 95 points and just misses the playoffs.
I think the team will rebound somewhat. Last season saw a regression in terms of on ice chemistry that helped them get to the playoffs. I'm not sure if the new additions caused the regression, but they certainly didn't gel as much as was anticipated. Given other changes in the pacific division the door will be open for the Kraken to make it into the playoffs as long as Bylsma can coach the team through the inevitable rough patches. The other thing that needs to change is that the Kraken need have more than a set pattern for dump ins and offensive zone entry during the PP. It became predictable what was coming and that made it much too easy to defend against for the opposition.
sharp transition passing from team defense zone to produce more scoring?
Super hard to anticipate continuity with a brand new coach
Shane's first three games were early in the season on a call up to play on the 4th line with no points scored.. Then his last five games late in the season he had a point per game on the second line (against mostly weaker teams though). I'm hopeful he has found his form and becomes productive for the team.
In the 90s, a 27-49-6 year 1 would have been seen as a solid expansion year season (without looking it up, I recall Tampa getting about 60ish points in year 1 and it was seen as a solid first year).
I’m ready for this team to go back to the playoffs. Lots of younger talent entered, sure. But looking down the projected line up, along with the coaching changes, I can help but be excited and optimistic about this upcoming season.
Since the Pacific is pretty weak now, I feel like they could be in a mix for a wildcard spot
When Grubauer went down, Daccord owned the net, the team played with more energy, went on a winning streak, and he became an instant fan favorite on a team that sorely needs personality and spark. His GAA and Save % were top 10 in the league. Grubauer's were ... not. Even his W-L was fine til the team collectively gave up with 10-12 games to go. Let the youth movement show what it can do.
I think ultimately, this team is a mid 90's point team. It's not gonna blow you away with any one line. They're built to mix and match. Beniers should bounce back, Wright should be on the opening day lineup. Daccord is in net opening night. I just hope the max deals given out won't handcuff the team going forward
Hard for any team in the west that didn't make the playoffs this year to push into the playoffs spots next year
Bounce back my guy they just became a franchise in 2020 give them time to get decent draft picks first before they make any noise. This is like saying bounce back to the new hockey team that moved from Arizona like no man big trades and picks need be made first.
What about Tanev?
Off topic, Shannon. Labor agreement reached at Disney.
I can't fathom how you can look at the numbers (including advanced stats) and think Grubauer should be the starter over Daccord. I could see if it was a smaller sample size as a backup playing against worse teams, but Daccord played/started more games by a decent margin and had INSANELY better numbers, it's not even CLOSE. Grubauer having his "best season" with the Kraken is technically correct but that's a VERY VERY low bar, not enough reason to say he's your guy.
If Daccord plays like that again and Montour trends even slightly closer to his 22-23 season, and Matty bounces back decently, I for sure can see them back in the playoffs.
Hopefully Matty can figure out how to not get absolutely bodied when he’s carrying the puck. Even slightly larger guys can swipe the puck hella easy.
Now what happens when Firkus is NHL ready?
Buy out Burakovsky
minimum he is going to be 1 season in the A (hope he does well and bulks up his body too) can we pls have a Logan Stankoven type of gem 😅🙏
they did yamamoto so dirty this year. he didn't have the best year but neither did so many of their forwards yet they started scratching him so much he couldn't even prove himself. makes me sad
We need to hear Tom Grossi's reaction. A Kraken cast featuring you two would be awesome.
Who do you think will be named Capitan?
I can't wait to see Wright shine, after being punished for his cockiness about how he had to be the #1 obvious choice. It's clear he is too good for the AHL now, time has come. He was given the Phil Housley treatment for being too confident in his means (poor Phil didn't make THG's top 20 defensemen since he watches hockey (I think that starts on season 80-81), the guy is 4 points for D, 4th in goals too, never had a Norris trophy, because he said he would be better than Bobby Orr when he was in Juniors (he did break Orr records there) and I guess he never was given a fair shake because of that, a Stanley Cup would have been nice, he's been close often, but no cigar.
As for the Kraken, they got a chance of picking one of the Wildcard spots, maybe more if things fit in just Wright.
Cup!!
Doesn't seem like a playoff team unless Wright really shows up and 80% of the players bounce back from their weak 2023/24 seasons.
Daccord's record gets you 49 points in 48 games played, Grubauer's record gets you 30 points in 32 games played.
bring back yamo! 🍠
I can believe that Seattle can return to the postseason
Wright will center the 3rd line, and Yanni Gourde will be centering the 4th line with Kartye and Turbo.
As sexy as Slaf's looking, I'm still nervous about Wright eventually being the one that got away...
This video confirms what I was afraid of...
We're fu....d
Grubauer needs to stay healthy.
Kraken are probably a wildcard team, depends on the luck they and the Kings have.
No player lost more $ last season than Matty Beniers. A truly awful season. He’s the only young player who’s never been with Bylsma. Huge season for him this year
i hope is better. Hakstol tactics were too defensive... And he pushed beniers to focus too much on that, i hope we play more fast and transitional game and he has more freedom, he's a capable goalscorer
The kraken came into the league with a lot of value contracts and cap space and they have wasted it
www.puckpedia.com/team/seattle-kraken They still have cap space.
"wasted it"
Based on what exactly?they still have the flexibility to add players while giving their prospects big-boy contracts when they earn it
Will the Kraken be better in 2024-25? Yes, from the additions of the 2 FAs signed, better seasons from several players who were injured a lot last season, the new energy from Wright and Evans, and the Bylsma bounce.
However, and I have seen this across a number of your videos, you seem to have a love affair with Grubauer. For someone who lives so close to Seattle, I am not sure why you do not see he has been mostly terrible for three seasons. I expect Daccord to fully seize the number one job again and Grubauer to be bought out next summer, so they can sign Joey to a bigger AAV contract. Maybe the Kraken should trade Grubauer to the Canucks for Demko and you can watch him up close.
Just need Gru to be like he was in the 22-23 playoffs in the regular season and not get injured. He was much better 2nd half of last season too coming back from.injury.
Who's their Captain?
I hope it's Eberle
should be McCann for longevity but maybe they want Eberle these next 2 years and then give it too Beniers, or Wright if he does nice... both have good leadership qualitys
Best team in the NHL .
We had a good 2nd season because of the goals from the donato geekie sprong 4th line. We didn't address the lack of scoring last year and haven't so far this off season, dark days ahead. Top line of Mccann/matty/eberle isn't good enough, they're all weak physically and get bullied on the boards
Grubby is starting , end of story .
😅
We don't talk enough about how hot Chris Driedger is tbh.
@@InsignificantNick driedger got picked up by Florida
West finals. Mark it down.
Hayden is useless in NHL and can’t fight.
They will be middling. Highly doubtful they make the playoffs. They will tease it and be close but they are not as good as Edmonton or Vancouver as well as little less than Vegas and the Kings. Progress though. We’ll see if those 2 contracts don’t weigh them down
No they won’t.
Such a corny team name. Still can’t get over it
Golden Knights is far worse
@@vector7927 - it’s definitely up there for the worst
Woah buddy
@@CJP.-pq3kr a kraken is a gigantic tentacled sea monster that’s a myth. Honestly it’s kinda cool. Could be worse. It’s a pretty good name and it fits well
@@vector7927 Even Hockey Club is better than golden knights.