Somewhat related, I was talking to an older relative of mine at a family reunion several years back and apparently he had an opportunity to buy a Yenko Camaro from a dealership in 1970. He pleaded with his wife at the time to buy it but ultimately left with a 6-cylinder Nova because he needed something efficient to drive back and forth to work with and that was the logical thing to buy. Of course, he regrets that decision every day now lol.
Gibb had the best selection.....he had 50 pf the 69 ZL1 (9560) Camaros produced. There were several hundred 1969 L72 (9561) Camaros built. The total production numbers of the L72's is unknown. I read Gibb had a fight with Chevrolet to take the cars back....because he only sold 13 of the 50 the ZL1 Camaros with the high $7300+ MSRP. The ZL1 option was $4160.50. Gibb sold his last ZL1 COPO Camaro in 1972...and it was repossessed in 1973. The L72 Camaros were about half the cost...slightly under or over $4000. The 1969 ZL1 Camaros cost more than the Corvette.....with the excpetion of a few ZL1 Corvettes....only 3 to possibly 7 Corvettes with the ZL1 engine rolled off the assembly line.
2 of these ZL1'S were bought by Bob Jane & bought out to Australia. Bob Jane is a tyre dealership & Bob Jane circuit raced the ZL1'S. Bob Jane HQ is at Port Melbourne, Australia 3 minute walk from my house. Everyday that I walk to work I have the fortune to see the ZL1 as it is the centre piece of HQ easy visible through the glass windows. I know what it is, I dont think the staff do, I have touched it & photograph it plenty of time. Hugger Orange in colour. Google Bob Jane ZL1, there are even die cast model of this actual car. Cheers Louis
You had something "unique" not something "typical", like a 69 camaro. The thing with camaros is, you could spend all winter building one, or fixing it up, and in the spring, drive it through the neighborhood, and B4 you go 2 miles, you'll see 3 others just like it.
Meh. Gimme all the sticker kits, scoops, fins, emblems, engine callouts and spoilers you got. A fancy paint job & sticker kit is simply cool and most buyers dug it. Sleepers are zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring. 😴
It's an unfortunate trend now that all muscle cars have to be decked out from the factory. By the time it's all said and done, you're looking at at least $40k just to get a V8 car with a ton of mandatory unnecessary options . If one of the big three would make a $25k, bare bone muscle car with a V8, I'd be rushing to the dealership to buy one.
Well chosen muscle make and model for your presentation. I always said that '69 Camaro ZL1 was a "No Frills, No flashy Novelties" automobile. Just well designed muscle!!!! Good video!!
When I was 18, Bought a 68 Rolling Body on Frame for $1000. Buddy of mine fresh out of Automotive Fabrication Class was willing to build it for me and All I had to pay was my Home Stereo worth $500 at the time. Bought a 350TPI with 5 Speed Trans out of a truck for $500 with only 1000 miles on it ( guy replaced the 350 for a 454 and 6speed), Bought Everything Needed to get it running, Dual Exhaust, tilt and telescoping steering wheel, Wing and Fenders, All New Interior, All the Glass, $2000 worth of Commercial Grade Primer from my workplace for Free along with all New Front and Rear Fenders for Cost, Tires, Rims, Everything, all for under another $2,500.... 1 year later, His Parents got sick of seeing it in their storage shed they never used and Sold it ( Without A Title) and there was Nothing I could do about it. Needless to say, Our Friendship ended there.
@@15Jeep yes. Modern GM has really caused some confusion with the nomenclature. Both Central Office Production Order cars. A deviation from regular production, approved by GM.
I was fifteen years old in 1969 and lived in West Philly. My father bought a 1969 Chevy Impala Custom Coupe from Roger Penske Chevrolet on Chestnut st.We had to take the car back for something minor and we found ourselves in the back room where there were 5 ZL-1 Camaros lined up side by side. I remember very clearly because they all had ZL-1 tags hanging on the rear view mirrors. Never knew what that meant at the time but they were plain and simple looking like this one ! ! ! Rodger Penske of course had no problem getting them Lol ! ! ! !
I remember when they came out when I was a car loving kid evryone was talking about the ZL1 engine because of the cost and the relatively lightweight all aluminum castings and that was as rare as hen's teeth back then for a production engine.
Yenko Chevrolet was right down the road from where I live and grew up, more and more Yenko prepped cars are turning up in garages and barns around here in the past few years including what's believed to be the only Yenko Camaro ever that didn't have the Yenko stickers put on it, the reason these cars are starting to pop up around here is because when local guy's would come home from Vietnam with a wad of cash in their pockets they'd run down to Don Yenko's Chevrolet dealership and want a rowdy go fast car, after running them for a couple of years and they'd need something like a clutch or rear end they'd wind up getting parked and the owners would say "One day when my kids are out of school..." but consequently they'd wind up sitting and collecting dust, now that those guy's are getting old enough that they're either moving because they've retired and plan on moving to Florida or Arizona or unfortunately passing away the cars are getting dusted off and discovered by the people who are looking for them. The one that doesn't have the sticker package on it is a typical example, the guy came back from being in the military and went down to Yenko, Don had a car that had been modified but didn't have the sticker package on it yet and the owner wanted it that way to have a sleeper car, Yenko had a policy against releasing the cars without the stickers on them but since the guy just got home from the military Yenko figured he'd do him a solid and let him have it that way, when it first turned up a couple of years ago after sitting for 40 years in his garage Yenko specialist's assumed it was an attempt at faking one but it's got all the paperwork and the original owners story about pleading with Don Yenko to allow him to have it without the sticker package. Fun fact, all those Yenko sticker packages were applied by his teenage daughter and her friends after school and on the weekends.
@@mongolikechewchew2475 What's screwed up is by the late 70's nobody wanted cars that guzzled gas and cost a fortune to insure so their value plummeted, most everyone just looked at them as old used cars that nobody wanted, when I was in high school in the early 80's you could buy V8 performance cars from the late 60's and early 70's for $500 to $1,500 depending on the condition and what engine was in them, now I see those same cars going for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'd love to go back to my high school days and scarf a bunch up.
@@mongolikechewchew2475 What's even worse, in 1972 I remember being with my family at the county fair and the demolition derby had some 57 Chevy's in it. Who knew?
The ZL1 (9560) COPO cars came in selected special colors - Dover White, Dusk Blue, Fathom Green, Hugger Orange, Cortez Silver, Le Mans Blue, Daytona Yellow (only 2 made - Kentucky and Michigan dealers); and Garnet Red (only 2 made - Florida and Virginia dealers. The L72 (9561) COPO cars came in basic "crayola crayon" colors - White, Yellow, Orange, Red, Blue, Green, Brown, Black. All COPO cars with a couple of exceptions had the body color rims and the concave cneter "dog dish" hub caps.
The 69 Camaro has always been my favorite year Camaro along with the chevelle..GM built great cars back then..today not so good.. Thanks for the video..try not to be so long between videos look forward to every one..Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
2014 or 2015 Z28 Camaro with the 7.0L engine (427 cubic inch small block) not bad.....has a phenomenal suspension...comparable to European (Ura-pee-in) sports cars. I would take one of these over the modern and newer ZL1 Camaro with the 6.2L engine.
One bad ride, but I would have to hit the lottery to afford one, they are bringing the big $$$,but it don't hurt to dream, wish I had one in my garage, excellent video.
Got to see one of these monsters up close at an NHRA Hot Rod Reunion at Famoso Dragstrip about 10-15 years ago. And what was more incredible was that the owner DROVE the car from his home in Bakersfield (CA) and packed it in the show area.
These COPO models bring crazy money at Barrett-Jackson. What great performance cars these were, and they looked good too. Today all cars look the same and it seems all cars are available only in silver, white or black.
I read an article years ago that the 1969 zl1 camaro was the first car in the super stock class to run 10 second 1/4 miles and they created the pro stock class because of this car and safety.
@ 4:58 - documentation and written history indicates the production of at least THREE (maybe as many as SEVEN) 1969 Chevrolet Corvette ZL1's rolled off the assembly line.
@ 4:20 - It is my understanding the available manual transmissions for the 1969 ZL1 (9560) and L72 (9561) COPO Camaros were the Muncie M21 and Muncie M22 Rock Crusher.
All of the info I've read/heard usually says that only the M22 (with the new twin disc clutch) or the TH400 auto were available with the ZL1 just like the L88.
I actually came across one of these for sale in 1975 listed in the auto trader. It was owned by a doctor in Pittsford NY. We thought he was crazy asking $3,595 for it as I had recently bought a 1968 Z/28 for $1,500.
Those stock 14 inch tires would make driving this machine....uh, exciting 😳😬 If you were reasonably careful, they should last an entire weekend! 💭💭💭💭💭💭🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I might be inclined to name the ZL1 Corvette or '68 Hemi Barracuda/Dart as the ultimate '60s performance car, but these would certainly be VERY close behind.
@@joshpitts7256 well the important thing is that ford never killed it off cause it wasn't making any money for them, like gm did the camaro and what was that other one it started with a t oh yeah trans something lol.
@@josephmartinez8803 That's a fact. If you ever read "hot "rod" magazine, every one of their issue have a 69 Camaro on .the cover, or all over the inside. I actually believe the number of 69 camaros, is bigger than the national debt.
@@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 Those kit cars have been out for some years now. There are or were a few other kits of other cars, such as the Mustang and 47-54 Chevy trucks.
Gross horsepower. By the time you added an air cleaner, exhaust manifold, alternator, water pump, etc and put it through that three speed slush box and all the way through the drive shaft to that solid rear axle.. there was probably only 300 HP making it there and the bias plies probably took another 50. That’s why you needed drag slicks and a prepped track.
I was a kid several years from driving age when the 67' Camaro was out. I remember being in the back of one as a passenger when we went to the beach. I currently drive a 17' Super Sport Camaro, manual Trans. People today are such wimps and complain to much about how the back seat in a modern camaro is not useable. Bullsh!t, I have had peeps in the back of mine and can also say its about the same space as an old Camaro. The old camaro gives the appearance of more room because the seats are about 5 inches shorter from back to front than the modern camaro and the the front seats in the old camaro don't slide back as far. A modern camaro seat will slide back about 2 inches further than the old ones taking up more rear space. Want more rear space? Do like they did in the oldies and move your seat forward or lose weight.
Three old cars that I hope that you might cover. The Buick Wildcat, the V8 Chevy Monza, and the Cosworth Vega. Three sleepers... My 95 6 speed CA spec dual exhaust hardtop (no t-top) Trans Am was unusual and also a sleeper (as fast as a 96 WS-6 or 95 SLP Firehawk) as that specific configuration resulted in everything but the ram air hood being installed. Edit - found the Cosworth Vega video.
Amazing that in over 35 years, GM didn't really improve the HP output of their 427 engine all that much. C6 LS7's are underrated at 505, which is not much higher (if not lower) than the 427 from the '69 ZL1. Fuel efficiency has most certainly improved, however.
From what I've read in a few other sources, the ZL1 was also put into production to homologate the all-aluminum big-block engine for the Can-Am Challenge. Until it came along, most Can-Am teams ran small-block engines because an all-iron big-block added too much weight. And it worked; except for 1972 and 1973, the Can-Am championship was won by a Chevy-powered team for every year of the series' existence (the other two went to Team Penske running Porsche 917's).
Not true by a long shot . CanAm racing had a five liter engine displacement maximum . That's why they used to run 302 , Z28 Camaros and 302 Mustangs , nobody was allowed more than 305 cubic inches .
You are VERY fortunate. The1969 Z28 Camaro with 302 cubic inch small black.....GREAT old muscle car. However, not quite as cool as a 1969 ZL1 (9560) or L72 (9561) COPO Camaro with 427 cubic inch big block.
@@robertsenseman4339 Yeah....like I said...you are very fortunate. The neat thing about the 1969 Chevrolet Z28 Camaro with 302 V8....it is 290 HP...almost one pony per cubic inch. The 302 V8 is super fast at launch.....off the line not many cars can beat it...very fast street car. Lots of people do not even know Chevrolet built a small block 302 V8. Many think it is a 307. Likewise, not many people know Ford built a big block 427 SOHC V8 ...the engine in the Ford GT40 that beat Ferrari a few times in the 24 Hour Le Mans and was also outlawed by NASCAR...cause Chrysler and Chevrolet race boys were gettin beat bad and cryin in their beer.
I am sure you could get any gear ration you wanted.. Berger Chevrolette Grand Rapids MI sold many of these in the Cast Iron Block version .. and so did Yenko in PA and one other dealter.. I knew two guys who owned one .. My first friend sold it to another guy whom I later knew from street racing in Kalamzoo MI he sold the rolling Chassis to a guy in TX for $115,000 a few years ago .. My friends was a Canary Yellow Rally Sport .. origionally was a 4 speed and he switehed it over to a Turbo 400 Muscle Car Of The Week - 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS COPO 427 Berger Muscle Car Of The Week Episode 280 V8TV
Chevrolet had a number of extra ZL1 engines for sale separately. $4162 each I believe. Put one of those in a '68 Camaro, make it look like a 396 (same block size) -- and bring home some pinks.
Why doesn’t Chevrolet release close to exact replicas of that car (and others) but updated with the same body panels, interior etc in say 2029? I know... safety, emissions, etc. - sigh...! When they released the current new generation Camaro I was so disappointed that the body style was not made the same as the old one. They would have sold a sh*t-load of them.
Great! love these videos! can you do a dive into the Chrysler 300, from the end of the 60s? I have a 1967 Chrysler 300 myself. Loved your video of the 1970s Chrysler 300 Hurst 1970 Cheers from Sweden!
I’ve seen the collection at the Shed from the Marvin Window Family......I’ve never seen so many rare muscle cars in my life The standout was the ZL1.....and all the Yenkos
The 1969 Camaro was the best body style of any Camaro to this day . Park a new Camaro beside a 69 and you will see the new one will look plump with a taller roof .
The aluminum 427 had problems. Many serious dragracers replaced the aluminum block with iron. It was a weight savings measure only. Nothing magic about the aluminum block.
When I get my Time Machine working properly, I'm head back to Gibb Chevrolet and buying a few of these gems.
Timeless beauty and a clear hot rod. Love it!
Somewhat related, I was talking to an older relative of mine at a family reunion several years back and apparently he had an opportunity to buy a Yenko Camaro from a dealership in 1970. He pleaded with his wife at the time to buy it but ultimately left with a 6-cylinder Nova because he needed something efficient to drive back and forth to work with and that was the logical thing to buy. Of course, he regrets that decision every day now lol.
Gibb had the best selection.....he had 50 pf the 69 ZL1 (9560) Camaros produced. There were several hundred 1969 L72 (9561) Camaros built. The total production numbers of the L72's is unknown. I read Gibb had a fight with Chevrolet to take the cars back....because he only sold 13 of the 50 the ZL1 Camaros with the high $7300+ MSRP. The ZL1 option was $4160.50. Gibb sold his last ZL1 COPO Camaro in 1972...and it was repossessed in 1973. The L72 Camaros were about half the cost...slightly under or over $4000. The 1969 ZL1 Camaros cost more than the Corvette.....with the excpetion of a few ZL1 Corvettes....only 3 to possibly 7 Corvettes with the ZL1 engine rolled off the assembly line.
2 of these ZL1'S were bought by
Bob Jane & bought out to Australia.
Bob Jane is a tyre dealership & Bob Jane circuit raced the ZL1'S.
Bob Jane HQ is at Port Melbourne, Australia 3 minute walk from my house.
Everyday that I walk to work I have the fortune to see the ZL1 as it is the centre piece of HQ easy visible through the glass windows.
I know what it is, I dont think the staff do, I have touched it & photograph it plenty of time.
Hugger Orange in colour.
Google Bob Jane ZL1, there are even die cast model of this actual car.
Cheers
Louis
Engineer: how much horsepower do you need?
Camaro: YES
Camaro: ALL OF IT.
CHEAP COST for it,LOL
@CJ Malone Woo Hoo! I'm more Old School than Warren!
I am so glad that I kept 1971 Javelin; people drive by and ask "what is it and can we look at it". Has started many friendships.
You had something "unique" not something "typical", like a 69 camaro. The thing with camaros is, you could spend all winter building one, or fixing it up, and in the spring, drive it through the neighborhood, and B4 you go 2 miles, you'll see 3 others just like it.
72 Javelin SST green metallic with the half vinyl roof. Fun car. Early 80s. I wish it was still in the garage.
I love cars like this. No nonsense, good looking and fast
I even love them if they had a 4 cylinder engine. Those cars were so cool looking
I prefer those wheels with the moon caps over any other factory wheel
@@jerkygutts8386 I like the hubcaps too. Had very similar ones on my '72 Skylark in High School
@Bruce Pate lol
Meh. Gimme all the sticker kits, scoops, fins, emblems, engine callouts and spoilers you got. A fancy paint job & sticker kit is simply cool and most buyers dug it. Sleepers are zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring. 😴
When I’m able to afford one, I’m getting a Camaro. Timeless design 👌
There was a company reproducing them. This was early to mid 2000s. Not sure if they still do, but it wasn't an awful deal.
@@joshuagibson2520 nothings affordable when you’re a college freshman either... lol
James Barnhart. Don't you just know it.
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Marijuanas. That's all...
The 69 ZL1, 69 Yenko, Z/28 and 1993 Z28 Camaros are my favorites. Saw a 69 Z at a car show in 2019, it was awesome!
I love the idea of a sleeper Camaro. Though the sound would have been a pretty good hint you had a lot more than a base 6 under the hood.
It's an unfortunate trend now that all muscle cars have to be decked out from the factory. By the time it's all said and done, you're looking at at least $40k just to get a V8 car with a ton of mandatory unnecessary options . If one of the big three would make a $25k, bare bone muscle car with a V8, I'd be rushing to the dealership to buy one.
@@ironpanther2420 homie I think everyone would
It's a ZL1 dude, anyone that knows about cars knows this and it's no sleeper
Easy solution, turbo the 6 instead of putting in a V8. Boost replaces displacement.
@@bluesky-ud9wg Back in 1969 many didn't know what this car was. I'm sure a few were surprised.
Possibly the best year in car history. Also 69 is another great thing... 😁
Well chosen muscle make and model for your presentation. I always said that '69 Camaro ZL1 was a "No Frills, No flashy Novelties" automobile. Just well designed muscle!!!! Good video!!
Gee that was a long time between drinks. I look forward to your videos.
Cheers😊
When I was 18, Bought a 68 Rolling Body on Frame for $1000. Buddy of mine fresh out of Automotive Fabrication Class was willing to build it for me and All I had to pay was my Home Stereo worth $500 at the time. Bought a 350TPI with 5 Speed Trans out of a truck for $500 with only 1000 miles on it ( guy replaced the 350 for a 454 and 6speed), Bought Everything Needed to get it running, Dual Exhaust, tilt and telescoping steering wheel, Wing and Fenders, All New Interior, All the Glass, $2000 worth of Commercial Grade Primer from my workplace for Free along with all New Front and Rear Fenders for Cost, Tires, Rims, Everything, all for under another $2,500.... 1 year later, His Parents got sick of seeing it in their storage shed they never used and Sold it ( Without A Title) and there was Nothing I could do about it. Needless to say, Our Friendship ended there.
Love this video👍
Man what a car!!
Excellent video as always!!!
I love the ZL1 and COPO 😎👍
Both the ZL1 (9560) and the L72 (9561) are COPO Camaros. ZL1 - Aluminum Black and Heads / L72 - Cast Iron Block and Heads,
@@15Jeep yes. Modern GM has really caused some confusion with the nomenclature. Both Central Office Production Order cars. A deviation from regular production, approved by GM.
I love the Yenko too
I was fifteen years old in 1969 and lived in West Philly. My father bought a 1969 Chevy Impala Custom Coupe from Roger Penske Chevrolet on Chestnut st.We had to take the car back for something minor and we found ourselves in the back room where there were 5 ZL-1 Camaros lined up side by side. I remember very clearly because they all had ZL-1 tags hanging on the rear view mirrors. Never knew what that meant at the time but they were plain and simple looking like this one ! ! ! Rodger Penske of course had no problem getting them Lol ! ! ! !
I remember when they came out when I was a car loving kid evryone was talking about the ZL1 engine because of the cost and the relatively lightweight all aluminum castings and that was as rare as hen's teeth back then for a production engine.
Yenko Chevrolet was right down the road from where I live and grew up, more and more Yenko prepped cars are turning up in garages and barns around here in the past few years including what's believed to be the only Yenko Camaro ever that didn't have the Yenko stickers put on it, the reason these cars are starting to pop up around here is because when local guy's would come home from Vietnam with a wad of cash in their pockets they'd run down to Don Yenko's Chevrolet dealership and want a rowdy go fast car, after running them for a couple of years and they'd need something like a clutch or rear end they'd wind up getting parked and the owners would say "One day when my kids are out of school..." but consequently they'd wind up sitting and collecting dust, now that those guy's are getting old enough that they're either moving because they've retired and plan on moving to Florida or Arizona or unfortunately passing away the cars are getting dusted off and discovered by the people who are looking for them.
The one that doesn't have the sticker package on it is a typical example, the guy came back from being in the military and went down to Yenko, Don had a car that had been modified but didn't have the sticker package on it yet and the owner wanted it that way to have a sleeper car, Yenko had a policy against releasing the cars without the stickers on them but since the guy just got home from the military Yenko figured he'd do him a solid and let him have it that way, when it first turned up a couple of years ago after sitting for 40 years in his garage Yenko specialist's assumed it was an attempt at faking one but it's got all the paperwork and the original owners story about pleading with Don Yenko to allow him to have it without the sticker package.
Fun fact, all those Yenko sticker packages were applied by his teenage daughter and her friends after school and on the weekends.
God,I'd love to go back in time with a wads of cash in pockets and walk into Yenkos dealership! Chevelle and Camaro plz!
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What's screwed up is by the late 70's nobody wanted cars that guzzled gas and cost a fortune to insure so their value plummeted, most everyone just looked at them as old used cars that nobody wanted, when I was in high school in the early 80's you could buy V8 performance cars from the late 60's and early 70's for $500 to $1,500 depending on the condition and what engine was in them, now I see those same cars going for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'd love to go back to my high school days and scarf a bunch up.
@@dukecraig2402 ouch,now that I think bout that,ur 100% right! Pennies on the dollar for what they're worth these days!!
@@mongolikechewchew2475
What's even worse, in 1972 I remember being with my family at the county fair and the demolition derby had some 57 Chevy's in it.
Who knew?
Love the history of the 60s muscle cars especially super rare Camaros like the ZL-1. Excellent video.
I've got a 14 ZL1. It's awesome but I LOVE the old classics.
i really want a 2013+ zl1 after i save up enough for it. how much did you pay?
@@arcaneinane 44 k but it only had 10 thousand miles. It runs wonderful plus it's a convertable. They are more pricey
Love your series. Absolutely the best produced, most professional channel on UA-cam. Keep them coming!
Another great one. I love these videos!
The 69 was the grand national of the day....
You got it all wrong... The GNX is the ZL-1 of the 80's
The ZL1 (9560) COPO cars came in selected special colors - Dover White, Dusk Blue, Fathom Green, Hugger Orange, Cortez Silver, Le Mans Blue, Daytona Yellow (only 2 made - Kentucky and Michigan dealers); and Garnet Red (only 2 made - Florida and Virginia dealers. The L72 (9561) COPO cars came in basic "crayola crayon" colors - White, Yellow, Orange, Red, Blue, Green, Brown, Black. All COPO cars with a couple of exceptions had the body color rims and the concave cneter "dog dish" hub caps.
Great video again!
Love this body style. Really one of the finest in that time!!!
Thanks for showing and Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹👍😎
The 69 Camaro has always been my favorite year Camaro along with the chevelle..GM built great cars back then..today not so good..
Thanks for the video..try not to be so long between videos look forward to every one..Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
2014 or 2015 Z28 Camaro with the 7.0L engine (427 cubic inch small block) not bad.....has a phenomenal suspension...comparable to European (Ura-pee-in) sports cars. I would take one of these over the modern and newer ZL1 Camaro with the 6.2L engine.
@@15Jeep Even an SS with a stick is a fun car to drive!
@@robertpoudrette4483 You got that right. Any old Camaro.....or Mustang with a V8 engine and 4 speed manual transmission is FUN to drive.
No…you’re the reason this channel is a success !
Love your vids keep it going
A much more enjoyable video to listen to and learn from! Thanks!
Incognito. That's for me!
A sleeper before they where called sleepers.
One bad ride, but I would have to hit the lottery to afford one, they are bringing the big $$$,but it don't hurt to dream, wish I had one in my garage, excellent video.
Got to see one of these monsters up close at an NHRA Hot Rod Reunion at Famoso Dragstrip about 10-15 years ago. And what was more incredible was that the owner DROVE the car from his home in Bakersfield (CA) and packed it in the show area.
Your videos are really good buddy. Thank you for making them.
These COPO models bring crazy money at Barrett-Jackson. What great performance cars these were, and they looked good too. Today all cars look the same and it seems all cars are available only in silver, white or black.
I bought one of these in Clearwater Florida in 1976 for $1250.00, sold it for $1600.00
Sweet!
Wow that's awesome
Great video
Beautiful car.
I read an article years ago that the 1969 zl1 camaro was the first car in the super stock class to run 10 second 1/4 miles and they created the pro stock class because of this car and safety.
That approach really brought out the lines and shape. Actually looks meaner.
Amazing! That's why I have one!
No frills all thrills!
So cool!!
🔥 HOT 🔥
Good show
That was a beast
@ 4:58 - documentation and written history indicates the production of at least THREE (maybe as many as SEVEN) 1969 Chevrolet Corvette ZL1's rolled off the assembly line.
Beautiful car!
This is my dream car
@ 4:20 - It is my understanding the available manual transmissions for the 1969 ZL1 (9560) and L72 (9561) COPO Camaros were the Muncie M21 and Muncie M22 Rock Crusher.
All of the info I've read/heard usually says that only the M22 (with the new twin disc clutch) or the TH400 auto were available with the ZL1 just like the L88.
You are correct 15jeep, in fact all the Gibb cars with manual trans were M21s.
I actually came across one of these for sale in 1975 listed in the auto trader. It was owned by a doctor in Pittsford NY. We thought he was crazy asking $3,595 for it as I had recently bought a 1968 Z/28 for $1,500.
Love it !
Those stock 14 inch tires would make driving this machine....uh, exciting 😳😬
If you were reasonably careful, they should last an entire weekend!
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LOL. Funny stuff.
By far, the sexiest, most badass, most Americana! The 1969 Camaro! ZL1, COPO, Z28, SS, SS/RS, and of course Yenko. I think Z28 is my favorite though
I might be inclined to name the ZL1 Corvette or '68 Hemi Barracuda/Dart as the ultimate '60s performance car, but these would certainly be VERY close behind.
Oh. I didn't know they only built two ZL1 Vettes. I guess the L88 Vette, then.
Back in the day when you pulled up to the pump and got 6 choices of gas to buy.
I remember finding Gibb's S/S ZL1 car back in the 80s, thank goodness that didn't end up in the crusher.
It's crazy how the mustang inspired chevy to try harder, that includes that "timeless body".
Ahhh Yes!!! The Glorified Escort it Became...
@@joshpitts7256 well the important thing is that ford never killed it off cause it wasn't making any money for them, like gm did the camaro and what was that other one it started with a t oh yeah trans something lol.
Wonder how many have survived today ?
Tons! There are more "rare" muscle cars today, than what were actually factory built.
@@josephmartinez8803 That's a fact. If you ever read "hot "rod" magazine, every one of their issue have a 69 Camaro on .the cover, or all over the inside. I actually believe the number of 69 camaros, is bigger than the national debt.
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The 1969 Camaro was actually produced into into mid 1970. The "new" 1970 Camaro was actually a 1970 1/2 (like the 1964 1/2 Mustang).
I’ve heard somewhere that you can build a “new” 69’ Camaro built entirely from reproduction parts. I wonder if it’s true. Wouldn’t surprise me. 💰
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Those kit cars have been out for some years now. There are or were a few other kits of other cars, such as the Mustang and 47-54 Chevy trucks.
That must have been a lot of fun.
They had at least 500 horsepower with those bias ply tyres. Wow.
yeah, you could easily smoke every gear !
Gross horsepower.
By the time you added an air cleaner, exhaust manifold, alternator, water pump, etc and put it through that three speed slush box and all the way through the drive shaft to that solid rear axle.. there was probably only 300 HP making it there and the bias plies probably took another 50. That’s why you needed drag slicks and a prepped track.
@@Bartonovich52 yep, can't disagree with anything you said.
This makes me hate being born in the 90s more I wish I was born in the golden area
Beast.
I was a kid several years from driving age when the 67' Camaro was out. I remember being in the back of one as a passenger when we went to the beach. I currently drive a 17' Super Sport Camaro, manual Trans. People today are such wimps and complain to much about how the back seat in a modern camaro is not useable. Bullsh!t, I have had peeps in the back of mine and can also say its about the same space as an old Camaro. The old camaro gives the appearance of more room because the seats are about 5 inches shorter from back to front than the modern camaro and the the front seats in the old camaro don't slide back as far. A modern camaro seat will slide back about 2 inches further than the old ones taking up more rear space. Want more rear space? Do like they did in the oldies and move your seat forward or lose weight.
The ZL1 version is one I've never heard of - and I grew up during that time. At < 100 produced, that's not surprising.
it was basically a modified L-88.
YESSSSSSSSSSS
Three old cars that I hope that you might cover. The Buick Wildcat, the V8 Chevy Monza, and the Cosworth Vega. Three sleepers... My 95 6 speed CA spec dual exhaust hardtop (no t-top) Trans Am was unusual and also a sleeper (as fast as a 96 WS-6 or 95 SLP Firehawk) as that specific configuration resulted in everything but the ram air hood being installed.
Edit - found the Cosworth Vega video.
I'm going to get one!
Amazing that in over 35 years, GM didn't really improve the HP output of their 427 engine all that much. C6 LS7's are underrated at 505, which is not much higher (if not lower) than the 427 from the '69 ZL1. Fuel efficiency has most certainly improved, however.
The 69 Camaro ZL1 427 I just sketched a orange 69 ZL1 427 it was exciting to sketch it
From what I've read in a few other sources, the ZL1 was also put into production to homologate the all-aluminum big-block engine for the Can-Am Challenge. Until it came along, most Can-Am teams ran small-block engines because an all-iron big-block added too much weight. And it worked; except for 1972 and 1973, the Can-Am championship was won by a Chevy-powered team for every year of the series' existence (the other two went to Team Penske running Porsche 917's).
Not true by a long shot . CanAm racing had a five liter engine displacement maximum . That's why they used to run 302 , Z28 Camaros and 302 Mustangs , nobody was allowed more than 305 cubic inches .
Want one in every color
Love the dog dish hubcaps.
As young 17yr old kid back in 1979 I bought a 69 Z/28 for $3,000. and I still own it.
You are VERY fortunate. The1969 Z28 Camaro with 302 cubic inch small black.....GREAT old muscle car. However, not quite as cool as a 1969 ZL1 (9560) or L72 (9561) COPO Camaro with 427 cubic inch big block.
@@15Jeep true but you take what you can get. I wish I could have bought a AC Selby cobra back then. I paid $3,000. for my Z it's worth like $60000.
@@robertsenseman4339 Yeah....like I said...you are very fortunate. The neat thing about the 1969 Chevrolet Z28 Camaro with 302 V8....it is 290 HP...almost one pony per cubic inch. The 302 V8 is super fast at launch.....off the line not many cars can beat it...very fast street car.
Lots of people do not even know Chevrolet built a small block 302 V8. Many think it is a 307. Likewise, not many people know Ford built a big block 427 SOHC V8 ...the engine in the Ford GT40 that beat Ferrari a few times in the 24 Hour Le Mans and was also outlawed by NASCAR...cause Chrysler and Chevrolet race boys were gettin beat bad and cryin in their beer.
I loved growing up in those days!
In '85 I bought a 69 Firebird 400 and a '70 Cougar CJ for $6500....
Still have the Cougar.
Wonder if it could take a full tilt hemicuda cool vid thanks.
I'd love to see that race and LS6 454 chevelle
@@joshshelby7322 I have the privilege of having seen the Chevelle,the'cuda,and the Camaro race at the Brainerd Optimist Drag Strip.
The Cuda took all.
The Cuda was a high 13s car. A KIA Stinger will absolutely destroy it.
A street brawler for sure!
This EXACT same engine, the ZL1, produced 585HP(SAE Gross rating) in the 1969 Corvette ZL1.
My favorite is still the COPO 9567
Only 2 were made, RS nose black with gold stripes. So there is really more than 69 this makes 71!!!
No cap, I’m just here for that bomb intro music 🎵🎶
What's the intro song you are using?
100% agree with you
In 1969 I 4 years old. Gee Mom you and Dad couldn't have me sooner? 😏
Before 1969, the Camaro had simple tailights and hidden hallogen lamps. Ar least, this one began to bear blue bowtie on front grill
I am sure you could get any gear ration you wanted.. Berger Chevrolette Grand Rapids MI sold many of these in the Cast Iron Block version .. and so did Yenko in PA and one other dealter..
I knew two guys who owned one .. My first friend sold it to another guy whom I later knew from street racing in Kalamzoo MI he sold the rolling Chassis to a guy in TX for $115,000 a few years ago ..
My friends was a Canary Yellow Rally Sport .. origionally was a 4 speed and he switehed it over to a Turbo 400
Muscle Car Of The Week - 1969 Chevrolet Camaro RS COPO 427 Berger Muscle Car Of The Week Episode 280 V8TV
Chevrolet had a number of extra ZL1 engines for sale separately. $4162 each I believe. Put one of those in a '68 Camaro, make it look like a 396 (same block size) -- and bring home some pinks.
Why doesn’t Chevrolet release close to exact replicas of that car (and others) but updated with the same body panels, interior etc in say 2029? I know... safety, emissions, etc. - sigh...!
When they released the current new generation Camaro I was so disappointed that the body style was not made the same as the old one. They would have sold a sh*t-load of them.
Yeah, it was a poor retro copy of the original. I think the worst part is the low roof.
Great! love these videos! can you do a dive into the Chrysler 300, from the end of the 60s? I have a 1967 Chrysler 300 myself. Loved your video of the 1970s Chrysler 300 Hurst 1970
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So CLEAN....so serious
I’ve seen the collection at the Shed from the Marvin Window Family......I’ve never seen so many rare muscle cars in my life
The standout was the ZL1.....and all the Yenkos
It had a few hundred miles on the clock....1/4 at a time ☺️
The 1969 Camaro was the best body style of any Camaro to this day . Park a new Camaro beside a 69 and you will see the new one will look plump with a taller roof .
Saw a stock one with cheater slicks do a 10.81 I think a magazine did a top speed of 172, crazy
Correction, they only came with the M22
I love 'em with steelies and dog dishes!
I accept! Perhaps not ownership……a thrill ride!
The ultimate sleeper.
The Dream...The wettest of Dreams!
Imagine simply bolting on new aluminum wheels and modern drag radial tires, say 17s. The performance would really shine then!
If people knew what they’d be worth, that $7k price tag wouldn’t have seemed so pricey
The aluminum 427 had problems. Many serious dragracers replaced the aluminum block with iron. It was a weight savings measure only. Nothing magic about the aluminum block.
Didn’t those ZL-1 engines have trouble with overheating when new?