What Does It Take To BUILD YOUR OWN CATAMARAN? - MJ Sailing
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2020
- We have plans to build our own catamaran. And we're going to take you through the process on how it's done!
Using a Schionning 1200 as an example, we walk you through the steps of what it would take from the time you receive your shipping container full of components, to when your new boat is launched in the water.
From finding and building a work space, to setting up the first panels, Matt will tell you each step that is involved, and what we estimate to be the time spent on each process.
We expect this build to take approximately two years for us to complete, and will be done in the US, although we have not decided exactly where yet. Make sure to stay tuned for the next set of videos in our build series, where we will go over the three designers we are looking at: Grainger, Schionning, and Oram; in more detail.
Christian's website of his Schionning 1200 - WILD THING:
www.catbuildingblog.com/
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Our boat: 1983 Trisalu 37 (custom aluminum, built in Quebec)
Where we've been: 2.5 year refit in Indiantown, Florida; Abacos, Bahamas; St. Barth's; St. Maarten; Antigua; Saba; Azores; Ireland; Scotland; Norway; England
Our Previous Boat: 1989 Sabre 34 Targa (Serendipity)
Where We Sailed Her: U.S. - Bahamas - Jamaica - Cuba - Cayman Islands - Honduras - Guatemala - Belize - Mexico - Bermuda - Azores - Madeira - Canary Islands - Sint Maarten - BVI's - USVI's
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Matt is geeking out and that’s great. I’m looking forward to following the build and wish you both the very best👍
Nice to have you back building. Most sailing channels repeat the same boring stuff. Showing the world that the adventures to follow are attainable for anyone makes a huge difference. I dare say it is why most of your followers started watching your channel. You two work very well as a team and your video documentaries are interesting and motivating. I’m sure many will follow in your footprints.
I've been watching you for quite awhile now but it's still a shock to see those old photos. You were just babies!! I fully intend to watch the boat build. In 1973 my friends and I worked 10 months on two 63 foot cement hull sail boats. Goal was to crew on one for our labor in an around the world cruise. Worked 10 months and the owner had a heart attack. He lived but the plan was scrapped and I didn't get to follow that dream.
I wonder why there are no cement catamarans?
Excessive material weight. And higher stresses in a multi that the cement can't handle. Strength to weight ratio in a multi is vital and the finished product would be a sea-slug.
This should be interesting. I am looking forward to following this build just as I enjoyed your efforts on elements.
You certainly have my respect for tackling a job of that magnitude. I know you are up for it. I'm wishing you nothing but an enjoyable experience.
you both are in my thoughts and prayers to weather this crisis and return safely home for your new project......with love from texas...
I find this fascinating. The model at 7:50 was particularly helpful as it made what you were talking about come together in my mind. I look forward to seeing more of the build!
Yep!!! This is going to be so cooL!!! Matt's grin is freaking priceless right now!!! Lmao Awesome!!!👍👍👍
Can't wait to see it all . This is going to be so exciting
I built my own 2,000 sw ft. house, and will never do it again. It was super time consuming, required updates for the next 5 years or so full of stressful moments, still required contractors for most things, and the costs were around 20% higher than planned. I now own a 1992 50' Riva motor yacht (I'm overseas with the military ). In 1992, this boat sold for 1.2 million US. I know this boat inside out now and I can say unequivocally, I could never afford to build such a high quality boat myself. The hull is super solid - like brand new even after 28 years. I could not replicate what Riva did, the thickness of the materials, double teak decks, etc. The engineering and designing is masterful down to the way still super tight light panels slip into place so they will never rattle. The joinery is top grade. I've replaced many mechanical items - like the generator, batteries and battery chargers, navigation equipment, etc. Engines only have 400 hours on them. When I finally retire onto a trawler or power Cat, I will purchase an older, vey high quality used one that I know will outlast anything I could build myself. But you two are young, and you will learn a lot from this experience. And you seem to be prepared for the long haul. Also, everyone's experience is different. You might just end up with the boat of your dreams. Good luck!
Wow, what a huge undertaking! If you haven’t already seen Onboard Lifestyles early videos of installing service conduits as part of the basic construction they go a long way to streamlining installation of cabling etc. Good luck, looking forward to watching your catamaran evolve
So looking forward to seeing you building your new boat. Good luck x
Very much looking forward to this series. It will be very interesting to watch. Good luck. See you again soon.
I admire you two for taking this on. What a daunting project. Keep your spirits up and good luck with it. It's something I am consider doing. I'll be watching!!!
Well, I'm knackered already 😴 Wish you the best of luck with everything. Thanks for taking us through the process of all that's involved. I've forgotten what it's like to have the GO to take on something that big, ha. You two will do it "no bother" I;m quite sure, and have a beautiful boat at the end of it. Ahead, Warp 8 Mr Sulu.
Matt, you are a great teacher and know how to give descriptive 'word pictures' so we know what you are talking about. You and Jessica sure make a great team with your enthusiasm and positive supportive attitudes and comments.
You know I started watching sailing la vagabond when they had about as many subscribers as you do now ....look where they are now ..I am really looking forward to joining you on your boat build journey and I am sure many many more subscribers will too ...happy days
Wow! 🤘What a huge project, will be fun to follow. My congratulations to you🤛
Best of luck on your build! Can't wait for a great series.
Fun to see this video available today! Thank you. And beautiful intro to this one, too.
This was exciting to listen to and Matt did a great job with your photo montage. I felt a mix of excitement and anxiety for you. I'm really looking forward to following you two on this build journey.
As you know, here in the states, we're getting our chance to experience the COVID-19 saga. I'm in California, San Jose, where we're doing the "shelter in place". As we were doing this, I realized, and feeling mildly inconvenienced, that you and Matt would be pros at this with your ocean crossings, etc. So what seems like a "big" deal here is less demanding than trying to navigate the open seas at the same time. So I've got a better attitude about it now.
And you guys are a great team. We tried to do a batch of peanut butter cookies the other day and it wasn't exactly our finest team moment...although now I have 48 cookies on emergency backup rations!!
Looking forward to the live session, see you then. Stay well.
WOW! I look forward to seeing this all done. Best of luck to you both.
This will be quite the build. Looking forward to it. Wishing you the best of luuck.
wonderful I am so exited for you guys and love the idea and to be able to follow you. I like the way you guys do things :) :)
This going to be very interesting, in my 60s so I hope I live long enough to see you finish.
Me too. Really want to see this splash. And another moon landing would be nice too.
Goodluck
I wish you luck and looking forward to the build. I think you'll get a lot of subs during this adventure.
Can’t wait to see y’all start this..⛵️
Really looking forward to this, I can only guess what your excitement is like. Best of Luck !!
Very excited to watch you make great progress! Will be a fantastic feeling when you get her on the water for the first time! Good luck!!
Aye m8's, wow this is one of the best go-throughs I ever have seen! Matt your voice and your trustworthy way of explaining is really in another level.
Matt knows his shit which is why he impresses me. Watch his rebuild of Elements. Did it ALL himself with jess by his side. Lucky bloke. The right girl by your side and you can do anything.
If anyone can build a boat, you two can, for sure. I was very impressed with what you did with Elements.
I can feel the enthusiasm , Lets get started..
Thanks for sharing i am looking forward to the build.
I'm excited for this! Can't wait to see it! : )
Looking forward to your new adventures, stay healthy!
Great description of the process Matt , I think you definitely are aware of the work involved and ready for it.
I was hoping to hear the hull panels are shipped as long pieces , precut ready for assembly . Just 4x8’s is just a variation on a plywood design converted to fiberglass panels. Being in the business of making tooling for large fiberglass products including boats my approach if using flat panels would be to build my own long flat mold and make by infusing my own exterior hull panels. ( flat infusion is easy!) The interior structure could be from precut designers 4x8 panels.
Have not been impressed with some if these designs made from cut up strips of coated panels , it wastes a lot of strength building that way and way to much fairing .
But it’s going to be fun to watch , and maybe help in some way! Cheers Warren
I can't wait to see this process!! I've wanted to do this too!
Wow,this sounds like a really big job. I am very much looking forward to this.Amazing that you are tackling such a job. All the best :)
Check in with Ross on “Life on the Hulls” with his cat build down under. What a task! Best of luck!
Amen! He is a great source.
Bob Stienke and Rossco is doing it in moulds, so No fairing. He’s also been working with glass for a long time. It’ll be interesting to watch this build!
Looking forward to your continued journey. Good health and God bless you both.
Thank you for the beautiful insights! Past years, I've been researching and designing a lot on the making of similar-sized catamaran from recycled thermoplastic and agricultural waste-materials for the composite. I'm also designing techniques for avoiding expensive molds. The beautiful thing with the materiality I'm working around is not only the recycled part, but also that it is extra resilient to impacts, and that it also has naturally great antifouling characteristics.
Life on the hulls is also building. He seems very detail oriented and may be able to offer some help
You did a terrific job on this video, and I really like your thoughtful planning process (similar to mine lol). I love the Schionning designs, terrific performance. Really looking forward to you starting the build process.
Wow. A lot of work. Good luck. Looking forward to the journey
Definitely in good spirits. Whisky, rum... and even a few beers. Corona, naturally... Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing the build process. It's going to be awesome!
Thanks for a really good overview of building a fiberglass plastic composite kit catamaran.
Hi Matt and Jess, I am so glad that at 62 I am too old to ever attempt this kind of craziness. Whereas U2 are young and have the time and inclination to create. I know Matt is active on cruisers and Sailor‘s forum, have you to given any thought to how you will protect yourself against Epoxy sensitivity? There is a fellow who’s handle is “Chotu” Who has become extremely Epoxy sensitive halfway through his build and now has big problems. Just a bit of proactive thought for my favorite UA-camrs.Cheers
It's a worry for sure.... especially since it's usually accumulative sensitivity and we haven't been the best in the past about protecting ourselves. Fortunately, if we do get a reaction, the designers do have options to switch to vinylester for the build. It would be heavier, but it can be at least finished. -Matt
@@mattjohnson6716 switching chemistry mid build is not optimal. Just start with vinyl ester.
@@mattjohnson6716 hi Matt, looking forward to your build 👍👍. am considering a project like this myself. On an average "guess" - what's the savings in cost to build the cat yourself? and also is the Kit supplied as to your specific design request?
loved your last set of videos on restoring your last boat cant wait to see you build a catamaran!!!
Looking to view EVERY STEP OF THE BUILD VIDEOS, courageous endeavor, best wishes.
At the ready for the next two years!!
Awesome project folks! Nothing too big you can't tackle hein!!?
Will DEFINITELY be watching. I LOVE build videos.
Both excited and scared for you too, a good direction for the channel I think
Sounds like such a daunting task. Looking forward to following along as you progress to a seaworthy craft. The reward should be well worth the effort!
So look forward to your build
Just discovered your vids this morning. Very well done!! Be back soon for more. Stay safe.
Wow! I wish I had the passion for any hobby in my life that you have for this upcoming project. I’m excited for you. But just thinking about all the work makes me want to take a nap.
Holy boatload of work Bat Man! Even the description has me exhausted and I've done some tough and crazy things in my life. Plan some $ for serious extra labourers, and work extra safe. You can't afford any lost man-hours for even simple things. Good luck!
This is going to be awesome to watch you two build a Cat!
very helpful loved the video and it was really well done. Thank you so much cannot wait to see what happens within the next few years :)
Ocean youth sailing built a Schionning Arrow 1360 documenting the the build on youtube. Videos are in English explaining the build and in German ...end result...looks great.
Yes, we have been looking at their build a lot lately!! If it wasn't for the (rightfully so) self isolating going on right now (and if borders were open and there was no virus...), we'd be trying to figure a way to see it in person while we're so close. 🙂
Really looking forward to the build can't wait best of luck Garry/Ireland
that is a MASSIVE ikea type building project. i find it mind boggling and can't wait to see it in progress once you pick out your building site and design.
Yes ya got skills Matt, and you are going to need them, and time!
Awesome! Fired Up for your Future Videos.
Wow what an undertaking. My father built his own yacht and it took a lot longer and cost a lot more than what he budgeted for at the start. I have no doubt you guys can do it.
You are so talented in your video making whilst you have been sailing. I am sure you could monetise this by way of travel documentary or something similar so that you could buy a cat one day. Keep sailing as long as you can. You guys are the best.
Truth that is! I just finished a haul-out. I planned 2 weeks for the work. Then found need of a new prop shaft, then a crack in hull......Just splashed yesterday after 5 weeks. The plans of mice and men........stay away from boatyards, they will make you crazy.
Having built my own stitch and glue kayak, the most important thing I learned was that I would never build my own boat. But good luck with that. Wish you all the best with it. Always fun to watch other people dong it, but I’d rather be sailing on my plastic classic.
I am absolutely delighted with this new content direction. I have enjoyed your globetrotting, but my favourite stuff was when you were renovating Elements.
Looking forward to the build.
Be flexible! Situational awareness required. Banks may find themselves holding boats, even new ones when dealers fail and special orders go south. I saw this in 2008. Pennies on the dollar. You might be able to buy much more than you could have afforded just last week. Love you both!
This will be epic. I salute you.
For sure teal on sv basic does the finest really nice work ,with beautiful molded curves etc.
Thanks David!
@@tealgoben1781 hi mate its true hope you and your family are well .
I'm looking forward to your build.
Beauty the scenery is so beautiful and stunning.Very enjoyable! Reminds me of my trips where I take the good music like the Guns N Roses, Imagine Draongs or the Delta Parole and then enjoy the powerful feeling of the sea. ¡vamos!
Best wishes in your endeavor. 👍⚓️ It's a good thing you are both young and want to do this thing !! Yet we know you will do kt and do it well !!!
Looking forward to the build 👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻
This sounds really interesting! Nice to see Plymouth :)
Looking forward to the build...
Hey just wanted to say the two of you are really an amazing team, cruisers, bloggers, and craftsmen. Good luck with the Cat. Matt, I sense that there is an engineer inside of you. I don't think either of you have shared much of your back story as professionals yet. Stay healthy.
Good luck, this will be a great project. Like that you picked foam core ;)
In the process of designing my own expedition catamaran, although it will be metal.
That's flipping awesome.
1. Grainger, 2. Schionning my two most favorite catamaran designers (in that order). Great choice folks! I love latest Grainger designs.
Do you have any idea about one project price including fabrication drawings?
@@SC-vw1nx We'll go over in detail later, but the Grainger kit is almost double the price of the Schionning kit. -Matt
From memory a Dix, 47' was about 120 k in oz$. That was the CNC cut kit in ply, plus epoxy. My favorite build.
I built an F-9A, carbon over DuraCore, in the early 90's. It was one heck of a process that took 2 years. Building a strip planked boat like that is a huge undertaking so using those panels will save a lot of time. One very cool thing I discovered was regarding the peel-ply, Apparently a static energy builds up when the epoxy is drying. Try turning the lights off (or reducing them) when you pull off the peel-ply. It's almost like a light show when this static energy is released. Also when cleaning epoxy from tools and hands, etc, you can use vinegar instead of acetone. It is much less caustic and cheaper too. Acetone should still be used for anything you will need to bond to though. Very satisfying, when you are done, to kick most other boats butts in a boat that you built yourself...
Awesome boat! A F-39 was on my list, but since we live aboard, and hope to keep this boat for awhile, we want a bit more space. Also cool about the peel-ply. We'll have to give that a shot....and we'll have ample opportunity with all the miles of fiberglass tape we need to run. -Matt
wow that great work is sailed with fun
Hey just watching your video I was born just behind you some 70 years ago a long time before the marina and apartments where built I could Wright a book about the area you are in now , I still live in Plymouth now and regularly go fishing down there , Regards john🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I like both Grainger and Schionning. Beautiful designs from both. Orans I never drooled over the same way. Jeff’s son, Craig, has Spirited Designs and offers a pre-moulded bottom and deck-joint. It’s nice to have some curved surfaces instead of a angles. For the hull bottom it looks more like coming off a professional mold. I also believe it’s built in the upright direction so no flipping over the hulls.
Amazing project. I will be following closely! Sail Surf ROAM did an excellent job on their catamaran build, hoping yours is just as beautiful when finished!
Thanks for the education! I have an LS swapped Mazda B2200 (NA) and I am planning on building a second Mazda B2200 K24 swapped TURBO truck. Now I know what to be looking for in a donor car for the engine.
OMG you guys are brave and young. If we were to take on a project like that, which I admit would be fun, we would probably run out of life force because we could cruise again. Have fun and we will watch from a distance.
This is going to be a lot of fun......
I love learning from various sailing cat channels, and this has to be the biggest challenge I've seen. I can't help be curious about costs - it sounds more expensive to build than it does to buy gently used!
Yeah, but they can build it the way they want.
Scott Slotterbeck of course! I’m assuming they really know what they are doing if they can build it better than a manufacturer who’s been doing it 30+ years. I look forward to the progress!
Im excited for you both and cat too....
Wild Thing looks WILD! You guys are inspiring!
=One Love=
-A
Schionning have great build plans and are awesome boats
We love you guys... Be safe and God speed
In two years? What's needed?? Time, money, commitment and some skills!! Best of luck guys, you can do it! 😁👌🏻🍻⛵️
Hi guys and thanks for the overview. Just as getting the form alignment carefully correct as a foundation for a straight boat please start without using the terms fiberglass and epoxy resin interchangeably. For novices who will undoubtedly follow your build it will be a great help. It shouldn’t be hard if you start out correctly. Maybe if you are applying fiberglass cloth/mat you could (and I know over the build it will become a bit of a time hog) say we are applying fiberglass mat using epoxy resin. Maybe it’s just a pet peeve but if people(and they do now) continue to use the terms interchangeably then there will be a more novices applying the resins incorrectly and suffering the failures. Best wishes on the build, I know it will be exciting. Your videos of your travel this year have all been beautiful.
Looking forward to your kit build.
Admire the guts it take to start a project like this. Having done comparable constructions designs (aircraft not boats), take your time early in the build, to plan your pluming and electric infrastructure. If possible put in tubing to draw cables through and have lines ready inside them to pull cables. A well designed system will facilitate maintenance and future changes. All this is easiest done if you can avoid having to crawl through tight spaces later. Looking forward to follow your progress.
Really looking forward to the build. Go Blue to my fellow Michiganders
Good luck guys. Big job, lots of fun. We are currently building our new floating home in Turkey. 57 foot aluminium Marc Lombard design. We decided to use polypropylene honeycomb for the furniture to keep the weight down.
Futuna 57? I though those were done in Poland? He's a great designer with a wonderful eye. I've always loved the RMs. Matt
My head is thumping just thinking about the enormity of this project but really looking forward to watching it all come together.
I'm getting itchy just thinking about it :) -Matt
@@mattjohnson6716 I bet you are Matt, but what an incredible opportunity mate, would be great to get Dan from MJ Sailing on board as he is a regular (Inspector Gadget).
@@mattjohnson6716 I would also love to see you and UMA doing a collaboration to build both your channels subscribers, its a win win for the both of you'se, but also SV Delos and Sailing La Vagabonde as they are both absolute incredible people, collaborations is where its at in order to grow your channel but I have been sharing like crazy, oh and I am a new patron
@@formhubfar Thanks so much Andy. Uma was all winter (until a day ago) about 100 yards away from us in the UK. They do such a good job that I doubt anyone that watches us doesn't already watch them... it would only be a win for us :) -Matt P.S Jess already made a cameo in their Christmas episode.
This is just soooo exiting! Can’t wait for the videos. 😀
Do you plan to make any modifications for the ready-to-go plans? My motivation of making the boat from scratch is the things that are not available on market.
We'll be able to make some adjustments, and we'll feature those in upcoming videos on designs. 🙂
MJ Sailing awesome! 🤘🏻
One thing that is my choice is the rigging. Thinking of going free standing carbon mast? 😎