'No school for two years': The special needs pupils 'squeezed' out of school - BBC Newsnight
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- More than 1,500 children with special educational needs and disabilities (Send) are without a school place in England.
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Newsnight collated figures from 46 English councils (25%), which suggests the real figure may be higher.
One mother told the programme her son had been "squeezed out" of school as a "quick cost-cutting solution".
The Department for Education told Newsnight:
“The introduction of Education Health Care Plans has also meant more than a quarter of a million children with the most complex special educational needs are receiving the tailored support they need to thrive.
"We know that a number of children with EHC plans are waiting for a place in school, having moved to a new local authority area, or waiting for their first primary school place. Local authorities are responsible for ensuring that there are sufficient school places for all children in their local area.”
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It is a very emotive subject and as such not one that gets the real issues ever truly looked at. Main stream schools are not the place for children with behavioural issues. Having a brother who has an autistic son and a wife who is an assistant head at a high school I have seen both sides of the coin. Physical disability is a different issue and the two as ever even in this clip are being merged and that does not help.
My brother didn't want his son is a "special" school. My nephew has no extreme behavioural issues but does have learning issues and is extremely vulnerable and can be manipulated by others easily. My wife pointed out to him if he fought hard enough he would get the place in a high school but it would be at the local sink school and his life would be miserable and given the ability of others to make him do things he would probably find he was bullied to a point that isn't healthy for him and he would learn nothing at all.
Now he was never going to be at a level that he could pass GCSE's even at the most basic levels so why would you want to put a child like that in a mainstream school? It doesn't help him or the high school who are vastly underfunded anyway.
The main reason schools don't want these pupils is because they really don't get sufficient funding for them. Most high schools would willingly have units attached to them that could deal with these kids so inclusion on a social level would be a real thing. But no one will fund them.
Kids with behavioural issues in schools with behavioural problems are not a good mix. Every child has the right to an education and that includes the kids who have issues that are related to their home environment. If you constantly dealing with the disruptive you are not dealing with the kid sitting at the back who never says a word and in all honesty probably has bigger issues.
Socially deprived kids have it far worse yet few speak for them because it just doesn't get air time on TV.
A school should be no different to any other public building and should have access suitable for children with physical disabilities. That means lifts and wide doors. As long as there are no medical issues preventing a child from attending school on a daily basis I really don't see why this hasn't been done. If a child cannot attend at 75% of the time then they really shouldn't be in a mainstream school. It causes to much disruption to the rest of the school. All children have a right to education and that includes the kids who don't have these issues.
It is not a thing we will ever get 100% correct there will always be examples of kids who fell down the cracks but as long as we try to rectify once found that really is the best we can expect in a system of mass education. You cannot expect a system designed to educate 2000 children in one place to bend itself out of shape for 20 kids. A system that deals with those 20 needs to be put in place and that costs money.
The myth that mainstream schools are for everyone needs to be burst. The simple fact is we have a larger population we need more schools or units that can deal with children who have these issues. What we should not be doing is putting them in environments that are simply not suited to their needs and never will be.
If parents can get in trouble for truency why cant whoever is not properly funding these things?
When I'm watching this document feel so sad for children spacial needs 😣It not fair at all poor education needs.
My daughter has a EHCP level 4 and she can’t get a space at any special needs schools any one got any tips because she’s been out of school for 2 years
I am hopeless right about now. I have missed upwards of two years of school. I have been in 4 secondary schools. I have been bullied on 3 separate occasions. I am now 15, in year 10. GSCEs are coming up soon. It is too late for me to go into a school like this, and even if it wasn't, we've looked into schools like this before and they're simply too full or there isn't enough of them. One day, if I'm even able to pass one if my GCSEs that is, I hope to create a school for kids like me. The system simply cannot fail any more kids. It's heartbreaking.
My send child was excluded from school 5 times in a year in year 1 he was 5!!!! He has had high level of anxiety. He has been showing ADHD and ASD symptoms but we are waiting for over two years to be diagnosed with Cahms. He has a plan which states : smaller classes smaller group. All special schools in North Tyneside are OVERSUBSCRIBED. Now we are moving to Northumberland in the hope of getting him a place there.
The actions of our government are commensurate with the political and cultural agenda that motivate their financial backers, and that is to drive those members of the population of the United Kingdom who’s labour is no longer needed and whose upkeep is simply a legacy cost, to extinction as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Single mothers, the disabled, those with mental health issues, anyone on universal credit or jobseekers allowance not prepared to accept zero hour contracts, the homeless, the disenfranchised and what used to be known as the british working classes.
The media is co-opted to foment division amongst the British people to break the bonds of our our cultural ties with each other, so as to 'distract the peasants' while the shareholders of UK PLC strip the cupboards bare.
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We used to have a lovely local special school in Newcastle North Staffs and all sorts of other specialised support, but all the day centers and special schools were closed, so it shouldn't surprised anyone that main stream schools cannot always provide the necessary support for some disabled children. Also, social services have massive care plan back lists, but like I was told, the care plan counts for nothing when it comes to applying that care plan.
That's horrible, from the U.s.A, as a parent of a child with special needs, how can you call yourself a western civilization if you cant even educate your own, if you increase the classes by 5 each you could accommodate maybe all of those kids, what the hell, all of those Lords, Ladies, Earl's.. why dont they donate? Charity begins at home, Again, wow at least us Americans take care of the special needs kids, so glad we are across the pond. I hope you find the funding, no child should be left behind, it's a sin. Truly heartbreaking and disturbing.. reminds me of natural selection
My son is yet to find a school and social workers are trying. My son is almost 16yrs and hasn’t had an education for 4 year’s. He has ASD, PDA,SPD but can learn with his peers but speech is very limited and slow and can’t wipe him self.
However this is the same situation as my daughter and didn’t get an EHCP until secondary, now she can’t go to school because of her difficulties and has been signed off school and had no education for Two years. There is no hope 😔
It's awful to think parents and kids are still facing the same uphill struggle with getting support that I faced in 1980s, proper help early on is so important and the feeling of a safe space is vital if your going to be able to learn anything, this is impossible if at constant risk of being bullied, bully's forget but for the bullied those memories stay. Please can local and national government really look at an important situation which countless families are going through, life is hard enough on a day to day basis
this feels like the states in the 70s. specialized schools are now only for severe disabilities and self contained classes are at least at public schools. mainstreaming is the expected. how is it so different in the uk????
Ik I have autism and I was in mainstream primary got excluded multiple times got in fights had sever anxiety attacks however I was told by the SEN I didn't need an ehcp. I went on to mainstream secondary once again got excluded a lot absconded a lot self harmed a lot and eventually got an ehcp and was signed off school. I've missed so much school and am now in yr 11 in a specialist school which even they say I have sever needs and I was signed off there for a while. I have had a lot gone wrong because of the school system and now have a lot to catch up on so lots of pressure.
How the working class can vote Tory I will never understand:-(
Best choice unless we get a GE and elect Farage as PM.
We'll take austerity over communism.
This is easily solved, stop taking in immigrants
@@gethcreator751you are like a record stuck in the same groove Farage will never be PM of this country and low life like you can f off back to the slime pit
Anyone watching this in 2023, let me tell you first hand that NOTHING has changed! The system is an absolute embarrassment and this country is failing these children! Local councils are full of liars and cowards. I hope things will change in the future.
Yankee speaking
I'm on the spectrum and wish I could help.
Not so great Britain any more it seems :-(
You do whatever you feel like in relation to the EU but WHY whould you treat your own children in need bad. Sane people treat children better than adults.
I, myself, am on the autism spectrum, and I had been bullied almost every day for two years. I suffered after-school restraint collapse and, even after the bullying had ceased, the damage has been done and probably can't be reversed. My parents thought putting me in a special-needs school would be beneficial, but I would have to take a train to get to it.
It's appalling and in my opinion illegal. It's not their fault that they have a disability. Shameful that authorities are failing these children and closing venues that had been available.
I wish rich celebrities would sponsor schools. They have millions! Don’t tax hardworking people further.
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I would like to add something, to all parents in Battle zone trying to access help, thank you it has and always mean alot having you in our corner. To children please please don't let ignorant stupid people make you feel "less" very often we just see life from a different perspective and just wish others would stop judging a book by its cover, kindness costs nothing but can mean the world and you can find you have more in common if you stop and take a moment thinking of all out there x
The council should be prosecuted.
How sad that this video is 5 years old and nothing has improved. The things are even worse now. And so little views😢.
Of course no child should be denied an education and therefore likely denied a future of full potential. But for those who only look at cost...you pay now for a relatively short period of adolescence OR you pay later for the rest of the persons life. Of course some children will never be able to be fully independent and some will never assistance through out their lives but for many self support is a possibility but not if you deny them what their peers are given. An education
THANK YOU TORYS FOR leaving kids alone.
PDA and add
same happened to my son its sad
I have autism
same but I didn't go to a special needs school
( Speaking British )
I assume that there are more then 20,000 children without a place at a school.
ALL ABOUT MONEY
i graduated from a special school (for my secondary) and looking at this report I am lucky to have graduated from there becuse if I went to a mainstream school id probaly been excluded within the first term of being there
2:30 ‘ we could help this child’ ‘but we don’t and we can’t ‘
I hated school aswel I was bullied called disabled even thou I wasn't people were racist to me I was outta school but I didn't have special needs and the word disabitly has too meanings ok
Sheesh this sucks
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Jeremy Corbyn
Damn I would of loved that time away from school OMG. If I was still in school I would be glad to as then I would not be surrounded by other kids getting sick from the CCP virus and passing it on. That's a blessing when you look at it, as they are away from people who would probably tease them and just disrupt their education anyway! They need to just learn from their mothers at home. Over here in the US they are forcing the schools to open back up during the CCP virus even which is nuts.
But mass-immigration isn't a problem.
How is that relevant?
JAMES WHITELEY , it would indeed be useful to know what the real cost of immigration is to our country, while the welfare needs of our own people cannot be met. Scandalous that this is happening.
bigbobabc123 , study some economics.
bigbobabc123 strain on public services, education and housing
Hate to brake it to you but immigrants as a whole pay more taxes than average native British citizen and so are a net surplus on the budget. Although I agree we should limit immigration because of house prices and crowding in general the idea that immigrants are taking school places away from natives is a myth because in total they are paying for their own places and paying for natives as well