Young pups nowadays don’t understand how strictly they officiated the game back in Baylor’s day. That dude was a pioneer and trendsetter in the modern day style of how basketball is played today.
Amazing assortment of shots. He played bigger than 6'5". Too bad he retired right before L.A. won the championship. Great athleticism that would enable him to play into day's league.
The most complete compilation of one the very greatest players of early NBA history. Good quality, apparently enhanced video. more material of EB here than I knew existed...wonderful to see. Kudos to the editors!
I notice how these guys move…MUCH MUCH more unathletic. Even Elgin played largely under the rim in all of these highlights. The game has evolved…athletes are better and more skilled. They took everything these guys did and improved it vastly over time. Also, there’s probably no convincing you, but can dribble with your hand on the side of the ball…that’s not carrying, and any ref will tell you the same.
Mike didn't carry it, but he and all players today manipulate the dribble. It started with Earl Monroe. The problem is today they have crossed over to carrying the ball and even double dribbling when they do a "Hezi" move. This, imo is illegal and virtually impossible to stop, and the main reason the scoring is so high and viewership is down. The league needs to address this, its bs, and the women do it more than the men
@@richardcollins2622 from the 50s to the mid/late 90s you had to dribble with your hand on top of the ball, it was considered a carry when you dribbled with your hand on the side. Today you are allowed to dribble with your hand on the side & underneath the ball. The rules on dribbling have relaxed over time.
@@richardcollins2622 I'm old school, played in HS in the 70s, and having your hand on the side of the ball was always fine, you just couldn't control the ball from below the "equator". That understanding and application of the rule seemed to me pretty consistent from films I watched from the 50s and in to my time playing and on through the 90s. Maybe Monroe started pushing the boundaries of it, I don't know, but somewhere along in the 00s and 10s, this (and travelling) changed dramatically.
Thanks for this. Baylor was one of my favorite players I learned about when I wanted to know more about the NBA in the 60s. He was the NBA's first above-the-rim player and I believe he is credited for being the first to dribble between the legs.
In the 1940's, Pollard could really jump. He hurt his shoulder on the backboard. I never saw Baylor dribble between his legs but I did see him do a Eurostep. He invented something new every day. He rarely dunked because it was considered an insult to the other team. That is why Chamberlain was low-bridged a lot.
Epic!!!!!!! Luka Doncic new lakers videos getting millions of views in 2 days meanwhile LEGENDS like this are forgotten about & swept under the rug...... Keep bringing the legends to the light foobas! The title says no lies....as good as there ever was for sure! Thanks & excited for more legend exposure 🎉
Maybe so, but even he’s playing under the rim in virtually all these highlights. He is obviously a great from his era, but sorry, I just don’t see the “high flying” highlights that are being described.
Thank you for this! I was a young boy and only got to see Elgin's last years, when his knees were giving out. I had no idea he could pass like that. Amazing that it looks like he didn't do much with his left hand. Everything with the right hand, and still no one could stop him, What I do remember is that little head/neck twitch he always did at the free throw line.
It's too bad that I wasn't old enough to have watched Elgin in his prime but I find myself gravitating to videos like this. One thing is for sure, he was a "one-off", a unicorn, Nobody's game I've ever seen looks like his. His creativity was astounding!
Baylor was the archetype that gave birth to DrJ, Ice Man, Skywalker, which gave birth to the Drexlers, Domnique's, Benards, and Jordans .. which gave birth to the Kobe's, Carters, Mcgrady's, Iverson's, Ray Allens, Paul Pierce which gave birth to Carmelo, Lebron, Dwade, James Harden, Westbrooks, DRose, Durants, Kahwai, Paul George, to what we have today.
GROWING UP IN BROOKLYN NEW YORK CITY WHEN I WAS 4 YEARS OLD IN 1962 I HEARD MY 2 UNCLES SCREAMING IN THE LIVING ROOM I RAN IN THERE AND I SAW THIS BROWN MAN FLYING THRU THE AIR I TURNED TO MY UNCLES AND ASKED THEM. IS THAT SUPERMAN AND THEY BOTH SAID YES
It’s too bad most people today don’t know what they’re seeing in these clips. They don’t realize the magnitude of scrutiny to which the rules were enforced back then, and that doesn’t include the actual rule changes that have been implemented to make scoring easier (ie. The gather step, or what is considered palming). To create your own shot as effectively as Baylor did in that era is almost unbelievable. This is the reason you can’t judge 60s players by their fg%; because if you allowed them to carry, palm, lower their shoulder, take two extra steps, use spin moves, euros, take two extra steps off the catch, jump into defenders, use their off arm, etc. you’d be seeing an entirely different style of basketball from these 60s guys. As another little wrinkle, the average % of film that a 60s player has of their career is less than 2%. You’re seeing 2% of Baylor’s highlights at best.
Watching this stunning 4K video of Elgin Baylor, it's easy to see why he's celebrated as one of the greatest players in NBA history. The film, with its colorized frames and crisp 4K resolution, truly brings out the brilliance of his play style and the elegance of his movements on the court. Kudos to @FoobasSports for making such a visually arresting tribute to a basketball legend. Elgin Baylor was a pioneering force in the NBA during his tenure from 1958 to 1972. His statistics, as highlighted in the pinned comment, paint a vivid picture of his excellence. Averaging 27.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, and 4.3 assists per game in the regular season over 846 games is a testament to his consistency and dominance. These numbers hold their weight even more when considering his playoff performances, where he maintained 27.0 points, 12.9 rebounds, and 4.0 assists over 134 games. These figures underscore his ability to elevate his game during the most crucial moments. What strikes me the most is the narrative of missed opportunities and what-ifs that surround Baylor's career. It's almost surreal that despite the powerhouse trio of Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, and Jerry West, the Lakers didn't secure more championships. The trio's limited playtime together due to injuries and Baylor's untimely retirement before the 1971-1972 championship season is a poignant reminder of how fleeting sports careers can be. The NBA landscape back then, with fewer teams and tougher competition, especially against the formidable Boston Celtics, makes their near-misses even more heart-wrenching. Reflecting on Elgin Baylor's legacy, it's clear that he was a trailblazer. His creative playstyle, marked by those iconic no-look passes and behind-the-back assists, showcased an imagination and flair that were well ahead of his time. Baylor's top 10 rebounding accolades for nine seasons, a feat that giants like Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and LeBron James couldn't replicate, speak volumes about his versatility and prowess. His assists record, placing him in the top 10 for six seasons, further cements his status as an all-rounder. The comparison between Baylor and other NBA legends often sparks debate. His stats, such as coming second in scoring to Wilt Chamberlain with an astonishing 38 PPG, 18 RPG, and 4 APG on 42.8% FG% over just 44.4 MPG, certainly make a compelling case for his greatness. While some may argue that the game has evolved, and different eras can't be directly compared, Baylor's brilliance remains undeniable. His ability to thrive under 'regular rules' without the leeway given to modern players for palming, carrying, and traveling, highlights a level of skill and discipline that is truly commendable. In conclusion, Elgin Baylor's impact on basketball transcends his statistics. He was a pioneer whose style and skills paved the way for future generations. This video serves as a beautiful homage to his legacy, reminding us all that the greatness of the game lies not just in the present but also in the rich history that players like Baylor have crafted. Thank you, @FoobasSports, for preserving and celebrating this history.
I heard guys talking about the best three players to ever play together. They were ALL talking about current players. I am taking: Wilt, Jerry West, and Elgin. Why in the WORLD does anybody think that any three players today were better than those three when they played together with the Lakers?
Baylor was top 10 rebounding 9 times (Bird once, Jordan/LeBron never), top 10 assists 6 times (Jordan once). He came in second in scoring to Wilt but his stat line of 38ppg and 18 rpg and 4 apg is not too shabby.
Despite going to the NBA Finals 7 times but never winning one, he was still A SUPER TALENTED PLAYER, so talented as a matter of fact, that if he would of won atleast 1 NBA Finals, I truly believe that Michael Jordan wouldn’t be widely regarded as the best NBA player who ever lived because I think Elgin would. He was SO GOOD AT PLAYING OVERALL BASKETBALL!!!
First of all this is a well done video and I marvel at the fact he was doing all of this with canvas sneakers. You could probably add another step of quickness and some more elevation on those drives to the hoop if he was wearing the footwear of today.
They played together 72 regular season games in 4 years because of injuries. Baylor only played a few games in the 1971-72 season because he retired. So they never won a ring together. Lost two finals to the Celtics who had 4 hall of famers and to the Knicks who had 5. Oddly enough, as soon as Baylor retired, Lakers went on a 33 game winning streak.
@@FoobasSportsI appreciate it, he was the greatest player I never got to see live. But I am interested in his career because many great players I grew up watching, Barry, Erving, Westphal all call him their favorite and the guy they tried to pattern their game after. So that is a big reason his play and career means something to me.
4:08 and 5:26 are both insightful quotes full of perspective and appreciation: the slashers and guards who played above the rim didn't originate with Jordan or Dr. J, who are obviously great in their own right, but from Baylor.
I'll remember when they had NB.A games on every sunday on ABC I was in my early teens. And was on the junior high basketball team. We used to. Go over The coaches house on sundays and watch the nba game He used to always say that Elgin Baylor Was the best player in the world. And when they talk about the greatest pure shooters , he have to be right up there Because when you Watch him play it was like he had a magnet on that basketball. He shot a very high percentage from the outside. And his passing was. Remarkable. When they talk about the Greatest player of all time. There is only one goat And his name is Wilt Chamberlain. But very few people ever put Elgin Baylor in the discussion For a number of reasons they've never seen him Play and they are not old enough. To remember him. Personally speaking he was the Prototype of the perfect basketball player. Hands down. There was no weakness nowhere in his game. Now, how many players can you say that about? It was a nightmare for players to guard him. And When he was not scoring, he was passing. But the most remarkable thing about Elgin Baylor. Was his rebounding Before Moses Malone, Charles Barkley Dennis Robman He was One of the greatest Rebounding Forward In history he had many 20 and 30 Rebound games This was coming from a man who was 6 foot 5. Those of us who really know basketball know how good he was and. When that discussion comes up. About who Was this and who was that if Elgin Baylor is in that discussion. You don't know what you're talking about?
I appreciate foobas sports for showing us that the NBA has always had great players period and that basketball was just not invented 20 years ago, The NBA does a very poor job of honoring their all time greats since basketball was discovered, young people have no clues they think the game was just invented and a lot of it is due to the TV coverage, keep up the good work!
As a teen in the early 60s, I tried my best to model my game after Baylor's. We didn't get a lot of BBall coverage on TV in those days, but I ate up everything I could manage to see on him. To this day, I still marvel at his peripheral vision. The best part of his game was making pinpoint passes to players that seemed to be completely out of his field of view.
Elgin Baylor was the James Harden of his era. Magnificent on the fast break, incredible from 18 feet away, had defensive prowess and was one of the all time greats in NBA history.
Am I the only one seeing that he is doing Magic Johnson no-looks before Magic was even born! Cousey and Maravich were also great at seeing the floor but they were not as good at rebounding as Elgin was.
For me, highlight videos have been forever ruined by a guy I used to play with. He would throw these no-look passes through crowds of opposing players, the ball somehow finding his teammate. He would look one direction and then flip a behind-the-back pass to a teammate for a layup. The problem was, for every one of those passes that were successful, there must have been 2 or 3 that resulted in a turnover. But I'll tell you, if there were ever a highlight video of the guy's best passes, you'd swear that he belongs in the HOF.
@@JohnnyRodgers3 the fake pass with one hand the rebounds, the dunks, the skills things like that not saying he's better than wilt but they have a very similar style
@@itsbadvibes6504 I couldn't disagree more...wilt had no face up game and played much more reserved and fundamentally than Baylor...no where near as acrobatic or creative with his shit attempts... because he didn't need to be ..wilt essentially a 7ft2 Tim Duncan with godly athletic ability and sabonis passing IQ...that's it😭
When someone says Jordan is the best player in the NBA history, I think he or she does not know anything about basketball. I am sure he or she did not watch Russle, Baylor, Wilt, Kareem or Hakeem. Maybe MJ is the best SG ever to play the game, but you can not say MJ is better than Bird or Magic, as they play different positions. Jordan was used primarily to promote the game, every move is a highlight, If Jordan goes to the bathroom it is a highlight. Watch the Knicks series and watch how the officials helped Bulls to win the series.
@@morrisparrish76 No, we have to be fair, he is a great defender, a great driver to the basket, an amazing passer and has the highest level of the skill of leadership, but he is not the GOAT.
He looks so wide open when he is shooting in the video. Very strong and athletic, but the guys guarding him seem to be just laying off of him. I guess its like the old football Jim Brown videos where he looks so dominating, faster and stronger than everyone else, but in those days the average defensive back or safety chasing him was a white guy 5 ft 11, 195 lbs and ran a 4.9 40 yard sprint. So Jim Brown was like Bo Jackson playing against High School players.
No doubt he was a great player. Especially during his era. Looking at the footage it did seem pretty glaring that he was heavily right hand dominant. But because of his strength and athleticism it was damn near impossible to keep him from going to the right.
If you are an skilled athletic perimeter /wing player you come from the Baylor or Robertson tree. I've always said I'd take Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, and Oscar Robertson vs any era's top 5 in a game of 5 vs 5.
Elgin Baylor wouldn't get off the bench if he played in the NBA today. He couldn't dribble left. All of his drives were off the right-hand dribble. He was slow as well. He was great in the 50s and 60s, but not skilled enough for today's NBA.
Elgin is an all time great but watch the defenders on most possessions. No hands up. Let him shoot. Very little contest. Great players today would average 50ppg.
@@dc_legendary Jordan, Kobe? 50ppg for sure. That was also an era where they had the most possessions per game game versus the 1990s and over 2000s where they have the least amount of possessions per game. They played very fast back then.
@@WadeVanderMolen bro Baylor jump shot was the weakest weapon in his arsenal. He was a threat to drive or drive and dish at all times...players were scared that he would just muscle by them if they played too tall....think about how defenders played Jordan early in the league....from 18 ft out they played hard gap defense...going under screens and some times they just left him completely open with no attempt to close out, because it was such a low % shot...even later in his career he wasn't ever truly contested 20 ft out bc it wasn't his best look...same with LeBron...his biggest threat is his driving so most defenders sag off of him🤷🏾♂️
ELGIN BAYLOR (1958-72)
- Regular Season [846 Games, 40.0 Minutes, 43% FG, 78% FT)]
POINTS | 27.4
REBOUNDS | 13.5
ASSISTS | 4.3
- Playoffs [134 Games, 41.1 Minutes, 44% FG, 77% FT)]
POINTS | 27.0
REBOUNDS | 12.9
ASSISTS | 4.0
BETTER THAN JORDAN. 40 PPG 18 RPG IN PRIME 5X BETTER THAN ANY JORDAN SEASON
i like how they play regular rules unlike jordan palm carry travel
You miss the most important stat how many rings?
I was born in LA/1950. Elgin has been my all time favorite basketball player since 1962. Watched him live at the Sports Arena & Forum. R.I.P.
@FoobasSports
Phenomenal video!!!
Most underrated player in history it’s crazy no one talks about Elgin Baylor
I mentioned Elgin to several of my basketball buddies last year - they all nodded in agreement - oh yea, Elgin Baylor, we know, we agree....!
@ a true pioneer, sounds like you have an educated group that’s good to hear.
Young pups nowadays don’t understand how strictly they officiated the game back in Baylor’s day. That dude was a pioneer and trendsetter in the modern day style of how basketball is played today.
Chick Hearn always said that Elgin Baylor was the greatest Laker he ever saw play. RIP to both Laker legends.
Those old school finger rolls...RIP NBA.
Amazing assortment of shots. He played bigger than 6'5". Too bad he retired right before L.A. won the championship. Great athleticism that would enable him to play into day's league.
Oh, he was badass !
1962 finals. 40 ppg, 18 rpg, 4 apg. Amazing.
The most complete compilation of one the very greatest players of early NBA history. Good quality, apparently enhanced video. more material of EB here than I knew existed...wonderful to see. Kudos to the editors!
@@petertaylor8503 Much appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
I wasn't expecting those bullet passes
Very underrated today. He could play today and his stats would be better. But bias for today's players gets in the way. .
I actually watched him play at the end of his career. What i remember was how strong he took it to the hole. Fearless.
Notice how he dribbles, without carrying it over. Unlike the players today who carry it on every bounce. That started with Michael Jordan,.
I notice how these guys move…MUCH MUCH more unathletic. Even Elgin played largely under the rim in all of these highlights. The game has evolved…athletes are better and more skilled. They took everything these guys did and improved it vastly over time. Also, there’s probably no convincing you, but can dribble with your hand on the side of the ball…that’s not carrying, and any ref will tell you the same.
Mike didn't carry it, but he and all players today manipulate the dribble. It started with Earl Monroe. The problem is today they have crossed over to carrying the ball and even double dribbling when they do a "Hezi" move. This, imo is illegal and virtually impossible to stop, and the main reason the scoring is so high and viewership is down. The league needs to address this, its bs, and the women do it more than the men
@@richardcollins2622 from the 50s to the mid/late 90s you had to dribble with your hand on top of the ball, it was considered a carry when you dribbled with your hand on the side. Today you are allowed to dribble with your hand on the side & underneath the ball. The rules on dribbling have relaxed over time.
@@richardcollins2622 I'm old school, played in HS in the 70s, and having your hand on the side of the ball was always fine, you just couldn't control the ball from below the "equator". That understanding and application of the rule seemed to me pretty consistent from films I watched from the 50s and in to my time playing and on through the 90s. Maybe Monroe started pushing the boundaries of it, I don't know, but somewhere along in the 00s and 10s, this (and travelling) changed dramatically.
Yeah, we use to call it double dribbles, but now you can practically walk to the basket without bouncing the ball on the court.
Thanks for this. Baylor was one of my favorite players I learned about when I wanted to know more about the NBA in the 60s. He was the NBA's first above-the-rim player and I believe he is credited for being the first to dribble between the legs.
In the 1940's, Pollard could really jump. He hurt his shoulder on the backboard. I never saw Baylor dribble between his legs but I did see him do a Eurostep. He invented something new every day. He rarely dunked because it was considered an insult to the other team. That is why Chamberlain was low-bridged a lot.
Epic!!!!!!!
Luka Doncic new lakers videos getting millions of views in 2 days meanwhile LEGENDS like this are forgotten about & swept under the rug......
Keep bringing the legends to the light foobas! The title says no lies....as good as there ever was for sure!
Thanks & excited for more legend exposure 🎉
So true! You really seem to appreciate these videos greatly.. thank you yet again for your kindness. Appreciate you 🙏🙏🙏
Elgin was the Godfather of today’s high flying game.
@@daviddavis2648 not just high flying, but the perimeter game.
Maybe so, but even he’s playing under the rim in virtually all these highlights. He is obviously a great from his era, but sorry, I just don’t see the “high flying” highlights that are being described.
Sick footage. Amazing player.
Thank you for this! I was a young boy and only got to see Elgin's last years, when his knees were giving out. I had no idea he could pass like that. Amazing that it looks like he didn't do much with his left hand. Everything with the right hand, and still no one could stop him,
What I do remember is that little head/neck twitch he always did at the free throw line.
It's too bad that I wasn't old enough to have watched Elgin in his prime but I find myself gravitating to videos like this. One thing is for sure, he was a "one-off", a unicorn, Nobody's game I've ever seen looks like his. His creativity was astounding!
I grew un n Seattle in the 1960s. My dad told stories about Elgin Baylor. He had great respect for him.
Baylor was the archetype that gave birth to DrJ, Ice Man, Skywalker, which gave birth to the Drexlers, Domnique's, Benards, and Jordans .. which gave birth to the Kobe's, Carters, Mcgrady's, Iverson's, Ray Allens, Paul Pierce which gave birth to Carmelo, Lebron, Dwade, James Harden, Westbrooks, DRose, Durants, Kahwai, Paul George, to what we have today.
"ANT MAN!" YOU need to watch this!!!
GROWING UP IN BROOKLYN NEW YORK CITY WHEN I WAS 4 YEARS OLD IN 1962 I HEARD MY 2 UNCLES SCREAMING IN THE LIVING ROOM I RAN IN THERE AND I SAW THIS BROWN MAN FLYING THRU THE AIR I TURNED TO MY UNCLES AND ASKED THEM. IS THAT SUPERMAN AND THEY BOTH SAID YES
That’s cool, Baylor and West were very exciting for you guys back then. Do you have any other memories?
It’s too bad most people today don’t know what they’re seeing in these clips. They don’t realize the magnitude of scrutiny to which the rules were enforced back then, and that doesn’t include the actual rule changes that have been implemented to make scoring easier (ie. The gather step, or what is considered palming). To create your own shot as effectively as Baylor did in that era is almost unbelievable. This is the reason you can’t judge 60s players by their fg%; because if you allowed them to carry, palm, lower their shoulder, take two extra steps, use spin moves, euros, take two extra steps off the catch, jump into defenders, use their off arm, etc. you’d be seeing an entirely different style of basketball from these 60s guys.
As another little wrinkle, the average % of film that a 60s player has of their career is less than 2%. You’re seeing 2% of Baylor’s highlights at best.
Exactemente!! Well said.
1:18 what kinda wicked pass was THAT
Today's NBA desperately needs an Elgin Baylor to bring the game back into the paint!
Grew up with the 60's Lakers and Elgin was my favorite player. He was Michael and Dr. J before they were.
I grew up in l,a watching Elgin and west what a treat
Great color footage and formerly unknown clips of Baylor!
He would have been shooting threes if they could've back then. He was great in all phases of the game.
The Greatest Small Forward ever
Watched him lead Seattle University, a tiny Catholic school, to a near national championship. Awesome, in every sense of the word.
The GREAT ELGIN BAYLOR !
Watching this stunning 4K video of Elgin Baylor, it's easy to see why he's celebrated as one of the greatest players in NBA history. The film, with its colorized frames and crisp 4K resolution, truly brings out the brilliance of his play style and the elegance of his movements on the court. Kudos to @FoobasSports for making such a visually arresting tribute to a basketball legend.
Elgin Baylor was a pioneering force in the NBA during his tenure from 1958 to 1972. His statistics, as highlighted in the pinned comment, paint a vivid picture of his excellence. Averaging 27.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, and 4.3 assists per game in the regular season over 846 games is a testament to his consistency and dominance. These numbers hold their weight even more when considering his playoff performances, where he maintained 27.0 points, 12.9 rebounds, and 4.0 assists over 134 games. These figures underscore his ability to elevate his game during the most crucial moments.
What strikes me the most is the narrative of missed opportunities and what-ifs that surround Baylor's career. It's almost surreal that despite the powerhouse trio of Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, and Jerry West, the Lakers didn't secure more championships. The trio's limited playtime together due to injuries and Baylor's untimely retirement before the 1971-1972 championship season is a poignant reminder of how fleeting sports careers can be. The NBA landscape back then, with fewer teams and tougher competition, especially against the formidable Boston Celtics, makes their near-misses even more heart-wrenching.
Reflecting on Elgin Baylor's legacy, it's clear that he was a trailblazer. His creative playstyle, marked by those iconic no-look passes and behind-the-back assists, showcased an imagination and flair that were well ahead of his time. Baylor's top 10 rebounding accolades for nine seasons, a feat that giants like Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and LeBron James couldn't replicate, speak volumes about his versatility and prowess. His assists record, placing him in the top 10 for six seasons, further cements his status as an all-rounder.
The comparison between Baylor and other NBA legends often sparks debate. His stats, such as coming second in scoring to Wilt Chamberlain with an astonishing 38 PPG, 18 RPG, and 4 APG on 42.8% FG% over just 44.4 MPG, certainly make a compelling case for his greatness. While some may argue that the game has evolved, and different eras can't be directly compared, Baylor's brilliance remains undeniable. His ability to thrive under 'regular rules' without the leeway given to modern players for palming, carrying, and traveling, highlights a level of skill and discipline that is truly commendable.
In conclusion, Elgin Baylor's impact on basketball transcends his statistics. He was a pioneer whose style and skills paved the way for future generations. This video serves as a beautiful homage to his legacy, reminding us all that the greatness of the game lies not just in the present but also in the rich history that players like Baylor have crafted. Thank you, @FoobasSports, for preserving and celebrating this history.
Thank you! Really appreciate it 🙏🙏🙏
greatest small forward 1960s
I still think he is a top three forward of all time. With Larry and LeBron.
@@Amick44 BAYLOR PIPPEN BIRD AND ERVING ARE BEST EVER. JORDAN BRON KOBRICK ARE NOBODIES
Best vid of EB ever.
Great video. I find it interesting that in most clips I’ve seen of Baylor, he would dip his head down for a quick second (5:55)
He had a tik
I heard guys talking about the best three players to ever play together. They were ALL talking about current players. I am taking: Wilt, Jerry West, and Elgin. Why in the WORLD does anybody think that any three players today were better than those three when they played together with the Lakers?
Baylor was top 10 rebounding 9 times (Bird once, Jordan/LeBron never), top 10 assists 6 times (Jordan once). He came in second in scoring to Wilt but his stat line of 38ppg and 18 rpg and 4 apg is not too shabby.
WILT 10X TIMES BETTER THAN JORDAN. BAYLOR AND OSCAR 5X BETTER THAN MJ.
you said it so i guess i don’t have to!
Despite going to the NBA Finals 7 times but never winning one, he was still A SUPER TALENTED PLAYER, so talented as a matter of fact, that if he would of won atleast 1 NBA Finals, I truly believe that Michael Jordan wouldn’t be widely regarded as the best NBA player who ever lived because I think Elgin would. He was SO GOOD AT PLAYING OVERALL BASKETBALL!!!
First of all this is a well done video and I marvel at the fact he was doing all of this with canvas sneakers. You could probably add another step of quickness and some more elevation on those drives to the hoop if he was wearing the footwear of today.
and modern wooden floor also!
Hard to believe, as good & talented as they were, that Wilt, Elgin and Jerry didn't win more championships together!
They played together 72 regular season games in 4 years because of injuries. Baylor only played a few games in the 1971-72 season because he retired. So they never won a ring together. Lost two finals to the Celtics who had 4 hall of famers and to the Knicks who had 5. Oddly enough, as soon as Baylor retired, Lakers went on a 33 game winning streak.
Longest winning streak in all professional sports I believe unfortunately Kareem and Milwaukee stopped there streak@@FoobasSports
The league was tougher 😊 with fewer teams! Celtic was one of those teams 😂!
@DavidGivinsnhe I know, Russell, (Cousy) & Havlicek were in the East, but still, what a powerpack team the Lakers had...
Boston stopped them a couple of times. Though I think the Lakers had a little better starting lineup, perhaps Boston might have been a tad deeper.
Such a good video, thanks for that!
Glad you liked it!
@@FoobasSportsI appreciate it, he was the greatest player I never got to see live. But I am interested in his career because many great players I grew up watching, Barry, Erving, Westphal all call him their favorite and the guy they tried to pattern their game after.
So that is a big reason his play and career means something to me.
Great video. Great editing.
Thank you 🙏🙏
4:08 and 5:26 are both insightful quotes full of perspective and appreciation: the slashers and guards who played above the rim didn't originate with Jordan or Dr. J, who are obviously great in their own right, but from Baylor.
I'll remember when they had NB.A games on every sunday on ABC I was in my early teens.
And was on the junior high basketball team.
We used to. Go over The coaches house on sundays and watch the nba game He used to always say that Elgin Baylor Was the best player in the world. And when they talk about the greatest pure shooters , he have to be right up there Because when you Watch him play it was like he had a magnet on that basketball.
He shot a very high percentage from the outside. And his passing was.
Remarkable. When they talk about the Greatest player of all time. There is only one goat And his name is Wilt Chamberlain. But very few people ever put Elgin Baylor in the discussion For a number of reasons they've never seen him Play and they are not old enough. To remember him. Personally speaking he was the Prototype of the perfect basketball player.
Hands down.
There was no weakness nowhere in his game.
Now, how many players can you say that about? It was a nightmare for players to guard him. And When he was not scoring, he was passing.
But the most remarkable thing about Elgin Baylor. Was his rebounding Before Moses Malone, Charles Barkley Dennis Robman He was One of the greatest Rebounding Forward In history he had many 20 and 30 Rebound games This was coming from a man who was 6 foot 5. Those of us who really know basketball know how good he was and.
When that discussion comes up. About who Was this and who was that if Elgin Baylor is in that discussion. You don't know what you're talking about?
Scored 73 with no 3 point shot.
I didn’t know he was a Jokic\LeBron level passer. Wow.
GREAT VIDEO SIR..... MY SECOND FAVORITE PLAYER OF ALLTIME.... GREAT VIDEO SIR!!!!!
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Mr. Hang Time!
I appreciate foobas sports for showing us that the NBA has always had great players period and that basketball was just not invented 20 years ago, The NBA does a very poor job of honoring their all time greats since basketball was discovered, young people have no clues they think the game was just invented and a lot of it is due to the TV coverage, keep up the good work!
Much appreciated 🙏🙏
The person who Dr. J idolized and modeled his game after.
The most important Laker.
Easy to see Magic in his passing/vision.
u mean cousy? magic is nobody just a copy of pistol and cousy
As a teen in the early 60s, I tried my best to model my game after Baylor's. We didn't get a lot of BBall coverage on TV in those days, but I ate up everything I could manage to see on him. To this day, I still marvel at his peripheral vision. The best part of his game was making pinpoint passes to players that seemed to be completely out of his field of view.
The DC Rabbit🏀
Top 5 Small Forward of all time (him, Dr. J, Durant, Bird and LBJ)
Elgin's hands were about MJ's size. 9.75" x 11".
Elgin Baylor was the James Harden of his era. Magnificent on the fast break, incredible from 18 feet away, had defensive prowess and was one of the all time greats in NBA history.
Almost all of his layup attempts are so ludicrous 😂😂😂
Am I the only one seeing that he is doing Magic Johnson no-looks before Magic was even born! Cousey and Maravich were also great at seeing the floor but they were not as good at rebounding as Elgin was.
Elgin Baylor had the flick shot. Did Luka ever watch him play, comparing position and style? I wonder.
Wow!!!!!!!
vrery good!
Funky ❤
For me, highlight videos have been forever ruined by a guy I used to play with. He would throw these no-look passes through crowds of opposing players, the ball somehow finding his teammate. He would look one direction and then flip a behind-the-back pass to a teammate for a layup. The problem was, for every one of those passes that were successful, there must have been 2 or 3 that resulted in a turnover. But I'll tell you, if there were ever a highlight video of the guy's best passes, you'd swear that he belongs in the HOF.
That's why we keep stats.
Baylor could score rebound and pass the ball
Can u do ABA Doctor J & NBA Doctor J Foobos. We need that
I see flashes of Wilt in him
How?
@@JohnnyRodgers3 the fake pass with one hand the rebounds, the dunks, the skills
things like that
not saying he's better than wilt but they have a very similar style
@@JohnnyRodgers3 PASSING SCORING REBOUNDING. WILT LED NBA IN ALL 3 THINGS. BAYLOR 18 RPG 40 PPG STILL 10X BETTER THAN JORDAn any season
@zzzvain9710 idk know if he's 10x better than Jordan😭😭😭 he didn't average 300 points and 50 assist per game now Diddy?
@@itsbadvibes6504 I couldn't disagree more...wilt had no face up game and played much more reserved and fundamentally than Baylor...no where near as acrobatic or creative with his shit attempts... because he didn't need to be ..wilt essentially a 7ft2 Tim Duncan with godly athletic ability and sabonis passing IQ...that's it😭
Better than Kobe
Kobe said he stole lots of Elgin's moves.
How come players back then only dribbled with their hand on the top of the ball? Oh yeah, that the rule.
He was good
When someone says Jordan is the best player in the NBA history, I think he or she does not know anything about basketball. I am sure he or she did not watch Russle, Baylor, Wilt, Kareem or Hakeem. Maybe MJ is the best SG ever to play the game, but you can not say MJ is better than Bird or Magic, as they play different positions. Jordan was used primarily to promote the game, every move is a highlight, If Jordan goes to the bathroom it is a highlight.
Watch the Knicks series and watch how the officials helped Bulls to win the series.
Jordan’s a “one trick pony”………take away his jump shot and he really ain’t got that much!)
@@morrisparrish76 No, we have to be fair, he is a great defender, a great driver to the basket, an amazing passer and has the highest level of the skill of leadership, but he is not the GOAT.
True: “there can be only one boss!”…….Bob eaton
WNC is that “boss”!!
He looks so wide open when he is shooting in the video. Very strong and athletic, but the guys guarding him seem to be just laying off of him. I guess its like the old football Jim Brown videos where he looks so dominating, faster and stronger than everyone else, but in those days the average defensive back or safety chasing him was a white guy 5 ft 11, 195 lbs and ran a 4.9 40 yard sprint. So Jim Brown was like Bo Jackson playing against High School players.
No doubt he was a great player. Especially during his era. Looking at the footage it did seem pretty glaring that he was heavily right hand dominant. But because of his strength and athleticism it was damn near impossible to keep him from going to the right.
I was born in 1965 and did not see Elgin Baylor play live basketball games.
That’s too bad!
If you are an skilled athletic perimeter /wing player you come from the Baylor or Robertson tree. I've always said I'd take Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, and Oscar Robertson vs any era's top 5 in a game of 5 vs 5.
My dad’s favorite player. The best forward in the NBA until he hurt his knee.
Barkley with a better shot.
Fantastic passing, but did he ever go left?
Lakers were stacked with West & Baylor but Celtics had a better roster overall.
Wilt was better then Bill Russell, wilt is the GOAT
& WFR knows it!
Elgin Baylor wouldn't get off the bench if he played in the NBA today. He couldn't dribble left. All of his drives were off the right-hand dribble. He was slow as well. He was great in the 50s and 60s, but not skilled enough for today's NBA.
🍿😉🫴Today's style of WNBA highlights unfolding blindsided?😖💥
🫨💥🫣💥😂💥😮💨
🍿🙃🫴💥Unfortunately tight shorts
Hero v. Team didn't win ships back then.
7:03, did Baylor have diarrhea?
come on, your background music ... really?
no left hand that i see.
And you're sure he needs it, are you?
@@lastonestanding3417 obviously it would help. does he need it? no. but most great players have a left hand.
You obviously didn't watch the video
Im sorry bruh if tht man was the best all around player in the league put me in the fckin game
savage..lol
Elgin is an all time great but watch the defenders on most possessions. No hands up. Let him shoot. Very little contest. Great players today would average 50ppg.
No they would not
And also almost all of these shots are contested 😂😂😂
@@JohnnyRodgers3 Watch again. Some yes, most not at all. That’s how they played back then.
@@dc_legendary Jordan, Kobe? 50ppg for sure. That was also an era where they had the most possessions per game game versus the 1990s and over 2000s where they have the least amount of possessions per game. They played very fast back then.
@@WadeVanderMolen bro Baylor jump shot was the weakest weapon in his arsenal. He was a threat to drive or drive and dish at all times...players were scared that he would just muscle by them if they played too tall....think about how defenders played Jordan early in the league....from 18 ft out they played hard gap defense...going under screens and some times they just left him completely open with no attempt to close out, because it was such a low % shot...even later in his career he wasn't ever truly contested 20 ft out bc it wasn't his best look...same with LeBron...his biggest threat is his driving so most defenders sag off of him🤷🏾♂️
No left hand at all
You obviously didn't watch the video lol
Shit just looked boring, maybe its just the hilights. Got Mfers saying they would slap that one handed bs back in Elgins face
He wouldn't be a star in today's NBA.
Get real!
Today that would be the highlights of a single game ... from a minor league. Impressive how much basketball has evolved in a few decades.