How to avoid getting duped by fake sourdough

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    00:00 The lie of pre-packaged sourdough
    01:35 Benefits missing from pre-packaged sourdough
    02:15 Gluten intolerance
    02:37 How to tell your bread is REAL sourdough
    04:05 Flavor difference
    04:44 Where to find REAL sourdough
    05:15 Make sourdough with me!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 72

  • @K-Fed
    @K-Fed Рік тому +16

    Something tells me commercial, non-artisanal, sourdough bread lack bubbles because the people who purchase it expect to use it like other pre-packaged bread loaves (e.g. Wonder Bread) to make sandwiches. While I absolutely love sourdough, I'll have to admit that the bread doesn't make great sandwiches. The bubbles leave room for filling and condiments to leak and fall out, and the crunchy outer crust can cut people's mouths if it's fresh or toasted. The knockoff bread ends up being a better choice for the customer, chefs, and the restaurant. The customer doesn't cut their mouth, the chef doesn't have to pick through slices of bread to find ones without holes, and the business saves money because it wastes less bread--or doesn't have to make a dish (e.g. bread pudding) out of the undesirable pieces.

  • @monicareid8858
    @monicareid8858 Рік тому +5

    She’s BACK!!!
    I’ve missed your videos!☀️

  • @ruthanncrane4114
    @ruthanncrane4114 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love your rants!!! We need more!!!

  • @threeheadedpuppy
    @threeheadedpuppy Рік тому +10

    My bread recipe book describes modern supermarket bread as “the cheapest way to make water stand upright”. I love making my own 100% rye soughdough, very little effort once you have a good starter in the fridge, and the cost is about £1.50 GBP per 1 kg loaf, including electricity, so way cheaper than anything you could buy anyway.

    • @TrueFoodTV
      @TrueFoodTV  Рік тому +4

      That description is brilliant!! And well done to you -- I bet your bread is delicious.

    • @broadcasttttable
      @broadcasttttable Рік тому

      I love rye and I love sourdough. Where can I get the recipe you used, including how to make the starter? Thanks.

    • @threeheadedpuppy
      @threeheadedpuppy Рік тому

      ​@Sun Search For the starter, its easiest if you can just find someone who already has one, and you can just get a bit of theirs. To make your own though, its a process. You combine in a large clean jar 10g rye flour and 30ml water, stir until evenly distributed, and leave for a couple of days somewhere dark. Then you will discard half the mixture, and add another 10g rye and 30ml water, and repeat those steps. You do this for several days, until the mixture is bubbling and alive. (It may go through a stage where it smells weird, off, but persist, eventually it should smell fruity, a bit sour, and bubbly). Everything that touches the mixture (the jar, the spoon) should be very clean, to avoid introducing bad bacteria.
      When you've got your sourdough ready to use, then the steps to refresh it, ready to make dough, are basically the same: Add 150g rye flour, 300ml water to the sourdough starter jar, leave overnight at room temp, then reserve 50g of that mixture as your new starter, the rest add to a mixing bowl, ready to use.
      To that, I add 330g rye flour, and 200ml water, 5g salt, mix until combined, then add straight to greased baking tin(s) (don't fill up more than half way, it'll rise). Leave this somewhere covered for 3-6hrs, until its risen, and bake in a preheated oven, at 240 C, dropping the temp to 220 C after the first 10 minutes, for a total of 35 minutes.
      I often add a mixture of seeds (sunflower, pumpkin, sesame, poppy), depending on what I feel like, to that base mixture, to add a bit of variety, and caraway seeds sometimes too.
      I leave my soughdough jar in the fridge, when its not being refreshed. It'll last in here for several weeks, but its best when its refreshed and used every week. If you make bread every few days, then it'll always be at its best, weekly is probably most practical, and less often than that, then the loaf won't rise as much. If you don't plan to make bread, you can still refresh the sourdough to feed it, to keep it healthy, but you'll just have to discard the amount that would've gone in the dough. Maybe you could make weird pancakes instead with the "soughdough batter" :)

    • @broadcasttttable
      @broadcasttttable Рік тому

      Thank you for the detailed starter recipe...appreciate the attention to detail. So I can use some of the starter now and save some for later baking? How long will starter last in the fridge? Can it be frozen, later thawed and used?

    • @threeheadedpuppy
      @threeheadedpuppy Рік тому

      @@broadcasttttable I've not tried freezing and thawing, but I don't imagine it would be a problem, you'd probably need to refresh it two or three times after thawing before using it, to get it back to how it should be. In the fridge, if you refresh it weekly, then it'll last forever. If you forget, then it'll start to lose its vitality slowly, as it gets more and more sour, but can always be rescued after a couple of refreshes. It can start to develop a dark liquid on top, which is fine too. However after a month or so of neglect, it'll probably start to develop bad molds, at which point you may have to chuck it out and start again. If you treat the sourdough right, then it can be used over and over again for every loaf you ever bake, you should never use it up, since you always reserve 50 grams of the refreshed starter back into jar into the fridge.

  • @BillNeumannMusic
    @BillNeumannMusic Рік тому +10

    Yes, definitely! A video covering gluten differences, low glycemic index, improved gut health, and more of the TRUE potential health benefits of sourdough, would be great!

  • @kattykakes8135
    @kattykakes8135 Рік тому

    Your channel is so rewarding. I’m relatively new to this channel so not only am I enjoying it, your approach is so inspiring and helpful! Thank you for all you do!

  • @sarahh.166
    @sarahh.166 Рік тому +4

    This is so informative! I've never tried my hand at bread making but with your encouragement I am going to attempt it.

    • @TrueFoodTV
      @TrueFoodTV  Рік тому +2

      Yay!! You can do it!

    • @sarahh.166
      @sarahh.166 Рік тому

      @@TrueFoodTV you're such a great motivator 👌

  • @Mrgavinburke
    @Mrgavinburke Рік тому

    Keep them coming Nicole! You gave me what I needed to raise my sourdough baking to the next level. My family won't eat commercial sourdough anymore so now I'm a weekly baker!

  • @kpl04
    @kpl04 Рік тому +3

    I’ve seen commercial “sourdough” loafs that don’t even bother to have a sourdough culture as an ingredient, instead relying on sour flavoring agents (poorly) replicate the flavor.
    Some commercial “sourdough” loafs do have culture as an ingredient to add flavor but still rely on commercial yeast to drive the bread. Some of those actually aren’t terrible.

    • @vindelanos8770
      @vindelanos8770 Рік тому +2

      Well, I've made Italian bread before where instead of using a yeasted preferment I just use an equivalent amount of prepared sourdough. In the end, the loaf is indeed yeasted, but the sourdough preferment adds a ton of flavor.
      I think the most important thing about videos like this is that most anyone who grew up after World War 2 grew up thinking that food comes from cans and boxes at the grocery store. it's amazing to rediscover the knowledge that has been lost due to pervasive industrialization of our food. And it's also amazing to discover how much better food can be when we make it ourselves from quality ingredients.

  • @Jamon1916
    @Jamon1916 Рік тому +1

    Another great video. Thank you!!!!!

  • @cwcole
    @cwcole Рік тому +3

    Be careful. Pepperidge Farm remembers! 🙂

  • @rogerspaulding6569
    @rogerspaulding6569 Рік тому +1

    Great presentation!
    You are preaching to the choir.

  • @OurayTheOwl
    @OurayTheOwl Рік тому +3

    Non-sourdough loaves can still develop large bubbles so Looks alone shouldn’t be indicative. Also that particular brand might not be “sourdough” but there’s no reason why large scale bakeries can’t use sourdough starter from natural yeast in their process even if they add additional ingredients later.
    There is also no FDA standard of identity for sourdough, so there’s actually no way of guaranteeing your artisan loaf at the small bakery is actually sourdough either.
    Food is complicated. Producers don’t have to prioritize the same things you do, better just to find the right producer than the right product.

  • @bengt_axle
    @bengt_axle Рік тому +1

    The French government, being concerned about this problem of misrepresentation, actually passed a law called the Décret no. 93-1074. It is a law passed in 1993 that defines what a traditional French bread (and sourdough) is and what additives and ingredients are permitted in order for it to be sold using the term "traditional French bread", "sourdough" and others. For the case of sourdough, it states that the it must have a ph of 4.3 and a crumb with a naturally occurring concentration of acetic acid of at least 900 PPM. ("potentiel hydrogène (pH) maximal de 4,3 et une teneur en acide acétique endogène de la mie d'au moins 900 parties par million."). I wonder if there are similar laws in other European countries (I doubt there are in North America).

  • @moses1142
    @moses1142 Рік тому +4

    I will protect you when the big bread 🍞 companies put a target on you!! 😊😊❤❤

  • @jklphoto
    @jklphoto Рік тому +3

    The inclusion of YEAST in the ingredient list is a dead giveaway. Even our large regional grocery chain sells fresh-baked "sourdough" loaves that are clearly NOT sourdough. But we know better. BTW: Did you intentionally use "ghoul" lighting for this scary video?

  • @thomasgarbe8354
    @thomasgarbe8354 11 місяців тому

    Mass-produced flour products almost always contain raising agents, i.e. baking soda / powder. One problem with baking soda is its "excessive" nickel content, which is responsibele for most skin problems, but also for internal health problems such as constipation, migraine, asthma.

  • @virginiabuckles
    @virginiabuckles Рік тому +2

    Does your course cover making sourdough bread with freshly milled whole wheat flour? TIA 🌸

  • @machinesofgod
    @machinesofgod Рік тому

    Where are the holes! That had me dying 😂

  • @jeffwindrim975
    @jeffwindrim975 Рік тому +3

    Good Video 👍

  • @molly9732
    @molly9732 Рік тому +4

    Yes, a video on gluten would be great!
    I actually have been playing around with a blood glucose monitor that I got recently. Yesterday I made (*your) sourdough bread (delicious!) and tested my glucose before and 1 hour after. I could not believe it. My glucose actually went DOWN! Like 8 points down. I was totally expecting it to go up since it’s “carbs” but it didn’t. Just goes to show how beneficial sourdough really is!
    Just to add, I had some full fat yogurt/kefir mix before the bread and I’m also making the bread with 75% freshly milled grain. Not sure if that makes any difference but just wanted to add. Thanks Nicole!

    • @TrueFoodTV
      @TrueFoodTV  Рік тому +2

      That's fascinating insight! I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the freshly milled grain - all that fabulous nutrition (fiber! protein! good fats!) going into your bread. Well done!

  • @Simple_and_natural
    @Simple_and_natural 10 місяців тому

    Nicole Can you recommend me a store where I can buy good quality flour? The milling at home is not an option for me. Thank you

  • @broadcasttttable
    @broadcasttttable Рік тому

    So are there ANY supermarket brands of sourdough bread worth buying? Brand names?

  • @nancyk8153
    @nancyk8153 Рік тому

    More garden videos please!!!!!!!!!!

  • @supernoobsmith5718
    @supernoobsmith5718 Рік тому +1

    Buying bread is DEAD. I only learned a couple of months ago, and now I won't eat store bread. Haven't conquered sourdough yet, but ANY bread is better than store bought.

  • @michaelsylvester7272
    @michaelsylvester7272 Рік тому +1

    This reminds me of when my mom baked her Italian Bread and then said the same thing about the bread in the plastic bags that had no taste and was mushy.

  • @Ed-jg3ud
    @Ed-jg3ud Рік тому

    So why does the USDA Allow companies to use the term sourdough if it’s not true sour dough. U should start a campaign to lobby them to ban this false use of “sourdough”

  • @2adamast
    @2adamast Рік тому

    The difference in speed is mostly due to the amount of yeast, sourdough starter has less than one tenth of yeast compared to normal breadmaking

  • @keithsnow
    @keithsnow Рік тому

    even some sourdough at bakeries use starter culture..and yeast...but call it sourdough....you have to ask....great content Nicole!

  • @RobKristjansson
    @RobKristjansson Рік тому

    Bahaha! "Why must you turn this restaurant into an eatery of LIES?!"

  • @seeuther2012
    @seeuther2012 Рік тому

    when i tried real bread from a local bakery i could never go back to store bought bread

  • @ronaldlee3537
    @ronaldlee3537 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for producing this video, I didn't know the difference of commercial sour dough and true sour dough.

  • @joefish4466
    @joefish4466 8 місяців тому

    Did not know sourdough can prevent cancer and diabetes. I need to eat more organic because that can affect my IQ.

  • @luke_fabis
    @luke_fabis Рік тому

    White, wheat, and sourdough? But white bread is wheaten.
    And sourdough is very often made from wheat flour too, although I guess I could also be rye or something.

  • @Noone-rt6pw
    @Noone-rt6pw Рік тому

    You is right!!! Many do not realize food is "mass" produced. Quality is sacrificed.
    Your husband seems to be a very lucky man!!!
    So much made at home is so much better.
    Industry has one focus, where money is the bottom line. Profit. Which is reasonable but not at the sacrifice of quality food.
    Consider Raviloi, other pasta, even bread, a little fiber could be added just to reduce cancer risks.
    I've found better food is from mom and pop operations.
    Can I got an Amen.

  • @sarahh.166
    @sarahh.166 Рік тому +1

    The link for your course seems to be broken

    • @TrueFoodTV
      @TrueFoodTV  Рік тому +1

      thanks for the heads-up! it's fixed!

  • @josephmiller211
    @josephmiller211 Рік тому

    Ha Nicole, takes a bite and see
    “Yup tastes like air” fun

  • @Cora.T
    @Cora.T Рік тому

    I misread the "bread" in the title as "beard" and I was deeply confused for a second, like "I do not have a beard? How could a beard be a lie? and why is specifically *my* beard a lie?" Needless to say, it's two am and I should be sleeping

  • @victorcooper1016
    @victorcooper1016 Рік тому

    Yes please

  • @MM-yh2mi
    @MM-yh2mi Рік тому

    Yes! Please make the gluten video. Thanks.

  • @DOJ77
    @DOJ77 Рік тому

    All ppl have to do is make their own. I was never taught to bake, but I learned and learned how to make my own starter without using the baker’s yeast.

  • @josephshackelford7242
    @josephshackelford7242 Рік тому

    I quit eating bread or anything with wheat months and months ago and my digestive system is so much happier because of it. I might have a donut on the weekend but that's about it. You should try to quit eating bread yourself, replace it with sweet potatoes or regular potatoes. my suggestion would be to try not eating bread for a couple weeks and see if it makes a difference. Real sourdough bread is ok for you, but the bread they make today is mass produced and all the nutrients are gone. That is so hard on your gut.

    • @TrueFoodTV
      @TrueFoodTV  Рік тому

      That's why I make my own sourdough bread and grind my own wheat. The bread my family eats is packed with nutrition, our bodies feel great when we eat it. I have no plans to give up on real sourdough anytime soon!

  • @samsongao366
    @samsongao366 Рік тому

    damn bro. ur videos always appear when I buy sourdoug.

  • @rheanonjasmyne
    @rheanonjasmyne Рік тому

    EASY to avoid, MAKE YOUR OWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @brianwatts5482
    @brianwatts5482 11 місяців тому

    Most of the packaged ‘bread’ these days could be used to plaster walls. Yuk.

  • @bharpoorboora
    @bharpoorboora Рік тому

    Nice

  • @balaam_7087
    @balaam_7087 Рік тому +1

    Do you remember getting suckered into buying fake sourdough? Pepperidge Farm remembers 😏

  • @cachi-7878
    @cachi-7878 10 місяців тому

    What are you going to do with that crap now?

  • @Montecitodesign
    @Montecitodesign Рік тому

    I enjoy a nice Jewish rye!

  • @user-sn4sv4ul1p
    @user-sn4sv4ul1p Рік тому

    A very wonderful channel, but please add translation into Arabic

  • @j.paultaylor7229
    @j.paultaylor7229 2 місяці тому

    Listen, no offense, but what are you talking about? Proofing in sourdough is provided by bacteria,
    Primarily Lactobacilli, NOT yeast. That is the point. Modern bread is made with yeast and the proofing comes from fermentation by the yeast. Ancient breads were made without added yeast using starter cultures of bacteria, and this is the source of the sour taste. I’m really not that persnickety, but you sound silly ranting about fraudulent soughrdough bread and then advocate for modern yeast methods.

  • @bryleeee3
    @bryleeee3 Рік тому +1

    1st

  • @vindelanos8770
    @vindelanos8770 Рік тому

    Lies. It's all lies.
    My quest for a kitchen stocked with nothing but scratch-made food is nearly complete.
    Ooh, and I planted a couple of juneberries!

  • @ThomasTravisano
    @ThomasTravisano Місяць тому

    Unsubscribe

  • @hjerte20
    @hjerte20 Рік тому

    You Americans sue each other for everything all the time (we get that impression in Europe) why not say you are allergic to yeast, then take them to court?

    • @lindamcneil711
      @lindamcneil711 Рік тому

      Simply put, the thought that all Americans (US) sue everyone else… this is simply a myth. Some people sue others. Most do not. The problem with assumptions like this is that generalizations are based on outliers or anomalies.