Shooting Range Backstop - Railroad Tie DIY
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Build a Bulletproof Shooting Backstop on your range with railroad ties and sand. Can withstand rifle and pistol rounds. In the video you can see me demonstrating with .308 and 5.56.
Railroad ties
1/2” rebar
Granite concrete sand
Your backstop is totally awesome. I have been searching for a good video and ideas. I just found it . Thank you for posting. I was going to use tires filled with sand and gravel. Your design is excellent.
Good, I’m glad you found it useful. Thanks
Straight to the point very detailed plus a good build . great video your presentation skills are formidable . you should do well
Thank you
Jacks's Home Projects, I used your interlocking railroad tie process to construct my railroad tie backstop. I couldn't get any granite sand therefore all I could get was clay-sand. It's a lot more dense and wet compared to regular sand but that's all I could get around here. I paid $200 for 13 tons of the clay-sand. I used some to fill extra safety barrels I placed alongside my backstop. I'll show that in Part 4 of the build. Thanks again for responding to my comments about how your layout design was cnfigured. It worked out well, It was quite a bit of work from start to finish. As mentioned, I still have some safety features to finish off my backstop. It's only my DIY version. I was able to stack 12 railroad ties high and the interlocking rebar stakes kept everything quite table. One fella commented that he too was constructing a RR tie backstop but his walls caved in. I don't think he made a level foundation prior to stacking and staking the layers. Alright, Jack, I'll soon be able to throw some lead down range thanks to your design. Have a fine week. Hundsman One 👍🏽🤠 9/13/22
Thanks. Glad it worked out for you as well.
Awesome !!!
Great job !!!!
I wish I had a big enough back yard to do this.
Thank you
awesome!! thanks for sharing
Dude what a great job and the suggestion is the only suggestion is throw a roof over it. I got some good pointers out of this thank you!
Thanks. Yes I’m considering doing that.
Very clear and to the point ! Thanks
Great, thank you.
Thanks for communicating with me and explaining the RRT layout. NEW SUBSCRIBER to show support and appreciation. Don 👍🏽🤠
Thanks
Holy cow, I did a design in my head and it was almost identical. I know I'm in good company
Great. Well now you know that the design works out.
Impressive. I also liked how quiet that 5.56 was at the end. That alone would go a long way in not disturbing the neighbors.
Thanks
Thanks for watching. I forgot to mention that I left the ends staggered to prevent unnecessary cuts which would speed up rotting. Plus the metal plates on the end are to help prevent the wood from splitting open.
Hey jack could you kindly type a list of materials you used? I remember we talked a bit about it ago but I wanna be sure I get the right materials
@@eli42o12 some gravel for base, rr ties, 1/2” rebar, 1/2” x 17” drill bit, sand
Can I ask how many rr ties you used ?
@@eli42o12 25 ties
How about how many rebar you used. My neighbors going go build it for me as you can tell I know nothing about this. If he gets to a point where he needs to ask you something can I pm you his number
Nicely done. Great plan to work from for our range.
Thank you
Well done, great vid. I am about to build one of these thanks!
Thanks. Enjoy your shooting.
Thanks so much. Just what I was looking for!
Thanks. Have fun shooting.
What we use to staple targets to were semi mud flaps or belt conveyor screwed to front and staple targets to it it last for years it's sorta like self sealing to give you something to look for
Great idea. Thank you. When my stash of large cardboard pieces runs out I may get a mudflap.
@@JacksHomeProjects also a 4x6 horse stall mat from your local farm supply store works well also
I actually have a few of those mats laying around. Thanks for the suggestion.
We put shade cloth on the front of ours. Peg targets to it. No timber to replace when it gets shot to pieces.
Good idea. Thanks
What was the ball park final cost for the project?
Very nice
Thanks
@@JacksHomeProjects no problem like many i been trying to think of a idea that would work so i dont have to drive from the pad just to keep the bangs in line.
I have something similar but added cross ties across the top to try to eliminate any shot flying up and out.
Good idea. Ive seen that done as well.
Jacks Home Projects, I think I watched your video atleast six times to see how you staggered the RRT's to get interlocking ends on the sides and rear walls. I can see how they're overlapped and interlocked on one side of the box and one side of the rear wall at 0:45. I read your response to Mike Clark (below) in which you explain how "every other RRT" in the back wall is cut short to fit between the two side walls (one of which gets overlapped by alternating side corners). Thanks for the great design. My RRTs are smaller (8.5 ft x 8 in x 6 in). Therefore, my backstop box will be 8.5 feet wide vice 9 feet. I'm in the eary stages of building a backstop now (using your interlocking design). BTW, how many chainsaw and circular saw blades did you wear out? How did you lift to stack your RRTs? Did you call in reinforcements to help you lift and adjust those heavy-azz RRTs? Have a fine week. Don 👍🏽🤠
So my ties are about 9’ so thats the width of the backstop. The first layer I put both side ties all the way to the back and cut the back piece to fit between them. Then the 2nd layer I have a full length tie across the whole backside and then just slid the side pieces forward instead of cutting them. You can see from the front that the second layer on both sides stick out in the front. I didn’t damage or have any excessive wear on my saw blade or chain. I lifted them by myself. I drug them over to the wall and then lifted one end and rested it against the wall and then picked up the other side.
@@JacksHomeProjects Thanks, I was wondering how you initially started. This explains the 1st 2 layers. I guess the 3rd layer was identical to the 1st ground layer and then repeat the process, right? Thanks Jacks Home Projects. 👍🏽🤠
Yes, just repeated the pattern
What do you think the upper range on calibers would be for this? Seems like you could stop some big rounds in all of that sand.
I know that my .308 rounds only penetrate the sand a couple inches. The base is at least 6’ of sand to have to penetrate. The military still uses sandbags to stop rounds. I’d be comfortable going larger but I dont know what the max is. There have been some studies done on rounds penetrating sand.
Did you use a full railroad tie wide plus the overlap on the back wall? I am working on the same project and realized with a full tie plus the width of one side overlapping, I cannot run a tie over the top. I was planning on going about 10 high, can cut the top few rows short, and use a few ties over the top for any splatter on steel targets or possible ricochets.
Thanks for the video. Great design. Great execution. Now I need to get mine finished!!
Thanks. It is as wide as the ties are long. So every other tie in the back has to be cut shorter to fit between the ties on the side. I hope that answers your question.
@@JacksHomeProjects I just watched the video again and heard the 9 foot outer width. Thanks for the reply.
Nice
Thanks
I wonder if that would stop a 6.5 creedmoor
There’s probably some data online somewhere. Being that 308 barely penetrates the sand, and theres several feet of sand, I would not be concerned
trying to decide between tires, railroad ties or building diy hesco barriers. all kinda seem expensive in one way or another.
I considered tires as well. If you use them as the retaining wall youd have to pin them all together somehow.
I think this is how I need to do it.....but twice as tall.
Cool. I'm not sure how high you could go using this method.
@@JacksHomeProjects well maybe not all the way to 16 ties but I think I'd need at least a 7ft height to have a good backstop for a pistol plate rack, so.i guess 12 ties high.
How many tons of sand did you buy and think you had leftover? I calculated for a 9 x 9 x 4.5 (9x6") square it is 18cubic yards. Then I cut that in half to make the triangle from back full to front for 9 cubic yards. I know it is slightly less than this, but that is the approximate. Then I believe it is .75 cubic yards per ton, making it about 12 yards.
Sorry, I don’t remember the amount I bought.
Thanks for the video!! When you say you drilled through the first layer and drove the rebar into the layer below it, did the second layer want to split and was it difficult to drive the rebar into the second layer? Thx!!
No it did not split. I held them back from the ends to prevent that. It was not difficult to drive them in. I used a sledge hammer. The rebar is already halfway in before you hit the 2nd layer so there is no risk of bending the rebar.
Good job! I am going to make one soon. I had this kind of design in mind and was wondering if it would work. Thanks for the info.
Could you use #2 Ground Contact Wood Pressure Treated Lumber instead of ties considering sand stopping projectile. Ties here expensive and not great condition ?? Please advise
Yes you could use pressure treated lumber. Usually that’s the more expensive route. Also, lumber is usually smaller so it would probably need more support than what I used for this.
Does the sand ever wash out during heavy rains?
A couple times it got small channels in it. Just takes a few seconds of shovel work to fix it. Same with a lot of shooting. Every once in a while just reshape it.
Mind me asking how much are ties now? I like how u did this
The place I got mine from is currently selling them for $26. I don't remember what I paid for them a few years ago.
Very nice, I am in the process of building this as well, how many ties would you say you used in all? Also is the back just single thick or did you double up ties? Thanks
Thanks. I used 25 ties. The top layer on the sides is cut in half because a full length was not needed up there. I used single wall on all three sides. The sand is what is stopping the rounds and one wall is plenty to hold back the sand. Those ties dont lay perfectly flat on each other but the sand still hasnt come through the gaps.
How did you get the sand inside it?
Shovel
where did you find RR ties?
From a local building supply business .
did you alternate 8' and 9' ties? I was trying to figure out how you were able to stagger the back but the one beam was able to fit on top up front.
Yes. I cut one end off every other tie in the back. The sides I left full length as you can see the front is also staggered.
where did you get your railroad ties and how much you they cost?
From McCoys Building Supply. I don’t remember the cost but I know price has gone up a little.
Power inverter for what?
To run a circular saw and heavy duty drill. Instead of lugging a generator out there.
@@JacksHomeProjects ah gotcha. Sure looked small
I bet it'll stop a 50bmg
Yes most likely.