If she needs anything, which she probably doesn't, it'd be to get rid of the part of her S2 that prevents it from activating when she herself takes 40+% max hp in damage.
Yes, but no, in my tests the light adin (life steal) can't one shot Hwayoung because if you have her too bruiser the adin can't do enough damage, if you use the adin with the pure nuke destruction build I believe you can or can make her very low, but yes adin is a good pick against Hwayoung because of the invincibility for the team giving you an extra turn to play and protect your team.
I played a few matches with hwayoung on ban protection, some of them picked adine and destroyed me. But because my hwa is only 13k Hp. If you build her mega tanky counter like some people are doing, adin will tickle her
I don't like using meta units but rather units that counter meta. And she counters many things. Cleave with her passive S3, debuffs with her passive and light units which there are so many that are not only meta rn but also strong in general. Also she gets a lot of def with her atk which makes her survive more, unless the enemy unit ignores def ofc. So she looks very appealing to me. I'll still wait couple more days but I might use my pity on her. Also I have 50 galaxy coins so I can always pick up a meta unit there. Regarding Ameru she for some reason doesn't amaze me like I don't feel the urge to build her to the point that I don't even feel like SSSing her and just getting more galaxy bms. And Eligos looks really strong but sadly I don't have him. Also did you plan on using Silverblade Aramintha? I'll probably build her today, she's very strong now and looks fun to me.
@@Zamer27you'd be surprised to see how fast she dies even with that bulk. Also it's not like this unit needs that much bulk since she's another cleave/Aggro unit, unlike some people says she's good against cleave, she's trash against cleave, all she do is sit there and dies.
@@Zamer27like half the meta damage units deal fixed damage or penetrates defense. Without being protected by Elynav, she dies to a single BSenya s3 or Jenua s3, and she is left with only a sliver of health being hit by YSenya s2, Amiki s3, or Amiki double s1. She also gets very little survivability from a lot of the commonly used survivability boosters. She can't get barrier, can't get damage limit, can't get defense buff, she can't get indomitable, can't get vigor, can't get regen from YSenya s3. Her buff immunity is way more detrimental than you might think. And in general, defense is useless if you don't have the HP to eat the damage.
I feel like shes gonna be really annoying on defenses... Put her behind Ml Senya with stuff like Ml Haste (to further punish people who focus her) or stealth to force people to hit her/Senya.
Instead of sigrid scythe I would say golden rose. The atack increase doesn't check for hwas passive so straight up dmg increase will always be better. If artifacts check atk befor the fight starts then yeah. But that is not the case.
Who said that? She definitely dealt enough damage just not enough to nuke no crit ily with 2k def+ which make people kind of disappointed but overall shes s tier
This community will always find something to complain about. "This unit's too broken" "This unit's too weak" bla bla bla ml Hwa does what she was intended to do. kill those annoying light tanks that are all over the place, while ignoring damage sharing and mit. ofc she won't one tap each and every unit in the game, that would be stupid. I just guess a well balanced unit is too much nowadays 🤷
Making her one tap everyone/able to get buffs would Just make her fire hwayoung 2. She is balanced AF. Not recommending summoning on her is understandable because she requires insane gear and is with a Lot of quotes """"""niche"""""". But saying she is bad/mid is Just crazy
Funny part is that some complains about her but do not actually know how to actually build her, play with her and do not know which units are good with her. Thankfully you are their to guide those rt@rds.
Because they want her to be versatile. She's less effective if u play slow. If u aggro she'll shine. Since eligos buff u hv many out to asflan. Eligos buff make the meta shift. If they release unit that protect resource the meta will change again.
No, she's not a well designed unit, She's way too stat hungry. it's bad on their part to assume that anyone can satisfy her gear requirements to have a functioning unit. She needs as much as possible of 5 different stats, neglect one of those in building and she's usless. She works for you becouse you are part of the 1% that has the gear to make her work
I agree she's stat hungry but I think once the hype dies down, she kind of operates like a LQC but for light units but immune to debuffs and good vs aggro/control so running 85cc not too shabby imo
I think she's the worst ML5 (on release) since Kayron 1.5 years ago. And once enough answers to the light knight meta have come out, she'll lose her niche and go from average to bad.
this character is bad, and it's irresponsible to act like that is okay. people use a thousand dollar opportunity every time they get an ML5. It isn't okay for this character to be dogwater, you have several ML5s, but this could be someone's first. They get this character because you have video titles like this and then they sit here with a useless character. Another only useable in pvp, 4th/5th pick character. Hellion Lua had a more oppressive kit from the beginning, but its cool she gets buffed.
1 she's not bad just literally dark lqc unique passive she's ment to be a deterrent of spamming light units and punishes. aoe cleave At best she's a niche light nuker that's easy to build and is balanced off release Instead of like lua that was released among anti counter units
@@RaihanSalim-nw7tm flat attack to def over all you still need defense on her but of course she suffers from any unit that def pens or ignores she's really good into light units and can ult twice if someone is aoe cleaving or trys to focus down her ally She has solid damage on s1 s3 damage will vary if not a light unit But still solid damage Cant be buffed or debuffed She can cr push herself with s1 Literally shes ment to disrupt and pressure You ether to focus her or eat two ultimates Straight up depending on enemy comp fks them over She's a sub dps and achorish think aravi and lqc combined extremely good when they work
if the enemy has defence buff or high def in general, she's worthleess. There are a lot of other units/comps that perform much better for that job. Even agains LHC she cant kill her
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If she needs anything, which she probably doesn't, it'd be to get rid of the part of her S2 that prevents it from activating when she herself takes 40+% max hp in damage.
I agree since Zio can target her
Tristen Wulf debunked the fact that her def transfer passive benefits from the 20% atk from Sigurd. It only take the flat atk into account.
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Is she worth for pity ? Pp said shes quite underwhelming
@@namvo5442 no
24:57 the yufine being defense broken guts her damage right? since s2 scales with defense
Yes
Eligos worth to build now vik?
Yes
i got brain damage reading these comments
i also pulled Hwa so i won't ban her but if i didn't, i know i'm petty enough to ban her.
Nah don't ban her she's not as bad as harsetti or Luna or flan
She strive in aggro. Less effective in turn 2
How much your archdemon atk?
Like 3k just used as a dual attacker
@@vikchun okay thanks
Can't you play adin into Hwayoung?
Also, what are your Ameru stats?
Yes, but no, in my tests the light adin (life steal) can't one shot Hwayoung because if you have her too bruiser the adin can't do enough damage, if you use the adin with the pure nuke destruction build I believe you can or can make her very low, but yes adin is a good pick against Hwayoung because of the invincibility for the team giving you an extra turn to play and protect your team.
@@noobsupremo2331 I use destruction adin regardless
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I played a few matches with hwayoung on ban protection, some of them picked adine and destroyed me. But because my hwa is only 13k Hp. If you build her mega tanky counter like some people are doing, adin will tickle her
Stil don t know how you get this wtf stat 180 - still 15k hp
Some pretty premium gear I must say
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I don't like using meta units but rather units that counter meta. And she counters many things. Cleave with her passive S3, debuffs with her passive and light units which there are so many that are not only meta rn but also strong in general. Also she gets a lot of def with her atk which makes her survive more, unless the enemy unit ignores def ofc. So she looks very appealing to me. I'll still wait couple more days but I might use my pity on her. Also I have 50 galaxy coins so I can always pick up a meta unit there.
Regarding Ameru she for some reason doesn't amaze me like I don't feel the urge to build her to the point that I don't even feel like SSSing her and just getting more galaxy bms.
And Eligos looks really strong but sadly I don't have him.
Also did you plan on using Silverblade Aramintha? I'll probably build her today, she's very strong now and looks fun to me.
Disagree that atk converse to def aint giving her no shit about surviving
@RaihanSalim-nw7tm How? It's 40% conversion. So with 4k atk she gains 1600 def so she'll haver over 2k with other gear and base stats.
Units that counter meta... so meta units... ok buddy keep being unique
@@Zamer27you'd be surprised to see how fast she dies even with that bulk.
Also it's not like this unit needs that much bulk since she's another cleave/Aggro unit, unlike some people says she's good against cleave, she's trash against cleave, all she do is sit there and dies.
@@Zamer27like half the meta damage units deal fixed damage or penetrates defense. Without being protected by Elynav, she dies to a single BSenya s3 or Jenua s3, and she is left with only a sliver of health being hit by YSenya s2, Amiki s3, or Amiki double s1. She also gets very little survivability from a lot of the commonly used survivability boosters. She can't get barrier, can't get damage limit, can't get defense buff, she can't get indomitable, can't get vigor, can't get regen from YSenya s3. Her buff immunity is way more detrimental than you might think.
And in general, defense is useless if you don't have the HP to eat the damage.
I feel like shes gonna be really annoying on defenses... Put her behind Ml Senya with stuff like Ml Haste (to further punish people who focus her) or stealth to force people to hit her/Senya.
She can't receive shields/buffs in general, so not really good with ml senya
@@julinho-f8xcorrect, but it still punishes people who focus her since senya activates passive and s3.
I agree
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Everyone said she does too little damage i think shes realy cool and does good dmg have her on 4,2 k atk 350 cdmg +30 sigurd i think she destroys ^^
Instead of sigrid scythe I would say golden rose. The atack increase doesn't check for hwas passive so straight up dmg increase will always be better. If artifacts check atk befor the fight starts then yeah. But that is not the case.
@briannaplays9000 sigurd gives more dmg overall so i keep sigurd i used e7 calculator 2.0
Literally no one is saying she doesn't do enough damage.
@iTricksEr if u believe 16% more damage is less then 20% atk increase then okie dolie.
Who said that? She definitely dealt enough damage just not enough to nuke no crit ily with 2k def+ which make people kind of disappointed but overall shes s tier
You know what, you're absolutely right! She is very good against control units because most of them are squishy. That makes her tier s unit.
This community will always find something to complain about.
"This unit's too broken" "This unit's too weak" bla bla bla
ml Hwa does what she was intended to do. kill those annoying light tanks that are all over the place, while ignoring damage sharing and mit.
ofc she won't one tap each and every unit in the game, that would be stupid.
I just guess a well balanced unit is too much nowadays 🤷
Good take
Making her one tap everyone/able to get buffs would Just make her fire hwayoung 2. She is balanced AF. Not recommending summoning on her is understandable because she requires insane gear and is with a Lot of quotes """"""niche"""""". But saying she is bad/mid is Just crazy
She kinda nid Heavy gear she is good bcuz u cant debuffs her she nid comp though
Funny part is that some complains about her but do not actually know how to actually build her, play with her and do not know which units are good with her. Thankfully you are their to guide those rt@rds.
Because they want her to be versatile. She's less effective if u play slow. If u aggro she'll shine. Since eligos buff u hv many out to asflan. Eligos buff make the meta shift. If they release unit that protect resource the meta will change again.
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She is way too stats hungry for a niche unit😢
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No, she's not a well designed unit, She's way too stat hungry. it's bad on their part to assume that anyone can satisfy her gear requirements to have a functioning unit. She needs as much as possible of 5 different stats, neglect one of those in building and she's usless. She works for you becouse you are part of the 1% that has the gear to make her work
rac
@@Gaunt19 + even after those crazy gear she barely surviving all thise def conversion mean nothing
I agree she's stat hungry but I think once the hype dies down, she kind of operates like a LQC but for light units but immune to debuffs and good vs aggro/control so running 85cc not too shabby imo
you're saying she's game-changing but she only have big impact on the last match. the other matches she didn't really do anything.
rac
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I feel this
I think she's the worst ML5 (on release) since Kayron 1.5 years ago. And once enough answers to the light knight meta have come out, she'll lose her niche and go from average to bad.
rac
That is a bad take man
this character is bad, and it's irresponsible to act like that is okay. people use a thousand dollar opportunity every time they get an ML5. It isn't okay for this character to be dogwater, you have several ML5s, but this could be someone's first. They get this character because you have video titles like this and then they sit here with a useless character. Another only useable in pvp, 4th/5th pick character. Hellion Lua had a more oppressive kit from the beginning, but its cool she gets buffed.
Bruh it's a video game 😂😂 stfu
rac
1 she's not bad just literally dark lqc unique passive she's ment to be a deterrent of spamming light units and punishes. aoe cleave
At best she's a niche light nuker that's easy to build and is balanced off release
Instead of like lua that was released among anti counter units
@@kaikenny7671 not bad? You sure? She cant even survive lpk all those def conversion mean nothing
@@RaihanSalim-nw7tm flat attack to def over all you still need defense on her but of course she suffers from any unit that def pens or ignores she's really good into light units and can ult twice if someone is aoe cleaving or trys to focus down her ally
She has solid damage on s1
s3 damage will vary if not a light unit
But still solid damage
Cant be buffed or debuffed
She can cr push herself with s1
Literally shes ment to disrupt and pressure
You ether to focus her or eat two ultimates
Straight up depending on enemy comp fks them over
She's a sub dps and achorish think aravi and lqc combined extremely good when they work
if the enemy has defence buff or high def in general, she's worthleess. There are a lot of other units/comps that perform much better for that job. Even agains LHC she cant kill her
rac
I agree but what if they don't