There is no perfect science. What devs really want is for you to spend money. When you think of games like street fighter duel that require multiple teams you simple have to. No content in the game should be unpassable but without multiple teams your gonna have a rough time of it. Not to mention the acquisition of resources to level the units. Sure you get recurring rewards but that is just a feather in a cap. As for the CN meta over usage guide just play and enjoy the damn game. Be cautious of content creators who are obviously whales and trying to follow in their footsteps. The game really does have a slow progression unless you are spending. Once you get to competitive pvp things will become even more problematic. So instead of power creep they will sub in a unit that will make others shine. This is standard practice these days. Girls frontline 2 is a cool game with average graphics as well as a gameplay. Appreciate the video
yep, I try to state as much as I can that I spend and yes I just got access to the real PVP and the whales there are crazy but all the rewards for pulls just requires you to play it. Plus the top reward at least right now only requires you to be top 50% which to me is possible without spending if you are dedicated as many casuals are just going to auto it for the pull rewards.
But the resources are very starved in this game. I think it's very irresponsible to just say "just enjoy the damn game". The best advise here would still be, do research first & Pick wisely. I won't say go meta only, but still, do research & pick wisely. It's a different story if they are more lenient on the resources. Also I heard global will have rush schedule to catch up with CN.
Vector V1 is real nice. I am for sure getting that, going all in on burn team. I pretty much have the same plan as you on the standard banner as well unless I see something change for Vepley or Mosin Nagant with expansion keys. QJ though for sure as she is my favorite of the standards.
FYI: Mokalatte needs her mod key to perform well, she was mid on release in CN. You can refer to prydwen for the translation for what her mod key does and it's a massive buff especially against bosses. We don't know if MICA will release Mariecurie in global with her mod key or not. Just putting this here because many people are unaware and may end up disappointed when she feels worse than expected.
@@xorphz Here's what her mod key does: "Ambush deals 30% increased Critical Damage. When Absolute Mental Defense (ult) is used, gain Extra Action and refund the Confectance Index used by it. When a Support Attack is used against a Boss-type enemy, apply Sugar Overdose to the enemy for 2 turns, increasing damage taken from Macchiato by 15% (can't be dispelled)." You can see how it massively improves her damage. She should've been released in this state by default instead of making us spend cores to buff her. What the f*ck MICA ,no wonder CN was unimpressed with her initial performance. Well, most of us in global will need her anyway especially if you didn't get Qiongju and Tololololol, a 2nd team is needed for endgame bosses.
She is alright, the expansion key is just what brings her up even more. You will see many people say most of the units that came before Suomi and Ullrid in CN are skips but the reason is many want to pull V3 Klukai and also dupes of other units after them because they are really good. I personally would not want to not pull for the 6 months it could take to get Klukai V3 on her release.
@@Zelarinth I agree, I don't get why people are so obsessed with Kookaburra and why even the devs love her so much (someone who played GFL please educate me). Even if you like her, you can't just dump all your pulls on her because you still need two other teams for endgame bosses. About MickeyD...I guess she's fine at base, but she doesn't feel like she is competitive with the best dps dolls until she gets her key.
i just realized you can use cheeta in tololo team so she can get additional action faster. sadly its tied to her ultimate, i dont know if that worth it or not.
Im looking to build lightning and water team. The deeper i get into the game the more i aporeciate moisan nagant. Also feel her mobility is kinda underrated since she can move again after paralyzing an enemy.
@F3scorn she has an ex key that lets her move 3 spaces after applying paralyze. Her skill 1 applies paralyze if it did lightning damage. Her skill 2 makes her next attack do lightning damage
its just because Ksneia is better for buffs and can fill sustain so she gets replaced by Vector. Springfield and Suomi are miles better as generic healers. Still a really good pull because we are not getting Springfield for awhile.
just wanted to say thanks for the info, and the sound quality sounds great! First thing I noticed lol. edit: it might be nice to include that google sheet link somewhere, it looked like pretty helpful info too. It's maybe 'GFL2 Official Release Info Compilation', I think?
Spreadsheet has been added. I thought I had originally as I have been adding it to all my videos mostly from copy and paste. Glad the audio is working out better. It is much better in this room and I have not even put up any on the sound foam yet. I do intend to upgrade my mic so hopefully it only gets even better.
I do believe some character might useful on their own place and if we talking on GB version. most of us know right now we don't have much choice to do, And even less choice on F2P player. i would love to see more infomation so we can compare them together and we will see what is going on. btw thanks for video. You did a great job :D
what is supposed to be the global fire team right now? is it sharkry, krolik, qiongjiu, and Ksenia? how do you sustain this team with just ksenia? I see some people using groza in the 2 team boss fights. I feel like I've made a horrible mistake building krolik even with her v6 being acquirable on the makiatto banner
@Zelarinth If you got to 8 with her, that's good news. I'm just on tier 6, I was close to beating it, I'll try again next week after I get Makiatto. Krolik seems like she will be good with the fortification that increases her over burn range so you can kind of just hide her. I'm guessing you replace Krolik with Vector eventually?
@@KyonV13 i dont have the resources to pivot to someone else, my krolik is fully built and level 45. people are super split on this, which is why it's so confusing.
not that I can see. Her biggest problem is lack of an element but there is the potential of a support buffing physical in the future. Right now she is a high mobility DPS that really fits anywhere that I can see with her kit. Could also see more supports in the future who can convert attacks to an element that she would work well with.
Not having an element and relatively mid damage are why she's being "downplayed". Having an element allows dolls to deal more stability and hp damage if the enemy is weak to it. She also doesn't synergize well with any particular team, which isn't good in a game that emphasizes team building. I like Vepley (she has adorable interactions and dorm poses) but I really wish she was better. Unfortunately, MICA likes making free dolls mid (Papasha is also elementless and has a weak gimmick) because I guess being free means they don't deserve to be too good.
@@WadeWontson She brings damage amp, offensive cleanse, aoe, movement down and high mobility. Its true that she doesnt have synergy but her kit is a really good overall one. Element weakness applies to weapon type too and enemies arent often weak to medium ammo compared to shotgun. So while she does have disadvantages, they arent as strong as you make them out to be.
plus you never know what her expansion key will be. We already also have examples of some dolls able to convert a dols damage type of an attack. Have a support unit that converts a dols physical attacks into a specific element and now you can start seeing a physical team forming and with those types of units they could be really versatile. Will just need to see what they cook up.
@@Tiasung Element and ammo type weakness are two different things, most enemies have both. I haven't been keeping track of which ammo weakness is most common amongst enemies, but I also haven't noticed any ammo weakness appearing significantly more than others. Anyway I believe the ammo weakness will also change with the events, you can bet Makiplier's event will feature more enemies weak to ice and heavy ammo to incentivize players to pull for her, it's a typical gacha tactic. Anyway...maybe I did downplay Vepley too much but it's undeniable that her lack of synergy holds her back. She'll still be useful to fill a missing role though since not every player can afford to pull for complete teams.
Why do we end up needing 3 teams? I can see 2, 1 for mobbing and 1 for bossing but why 3? A hybrid boss/mob team? I'm making 2 full teams for ice and electric so a 3rd seems unneeded fot me.
yea, waiting to see how they get buffed. Mosin Nagant already is pretty good looking at her V6. So I very easily see her going to T0 on the tier lists with a Tololo level buff.
She is good as she will pair well with Suomi but you will see many mention her as mid until she gets her expansion key. She gets an expansion key in the future which makes her even better. if your complete F2P though you may want to think about the units much farther in the future and whether you want dupes on them. Klukai V3 for example is extremely good. but you would want to save from now until them for it and work with the standard SSRs and Suomi for now.
i was considering papasha or andoris to trigger 6 action support of QJ. but both summon died easily and cant be healed/shielded while pumping small damage. in the end springfield and tololo are the best QJ team..
I am wondering how well these summon work in pvp for drawing out the AI enemy. I am so far beating semi built teams if I can work them into exposing themselves.
@@Zelarinth my original team was QJ,suomi5,sharkry,ksenia,zhaohui5. then use tololo on other team, and then third team peritya+klukai. tempted to use electric team for 3rd team but i dont know, im still new to this game. Edit : sadly for turret is too close, and the robot is auto.
Klukai, Mechty, and Peritya. The final person is a sustain, Springfield being the current best but if you build the hydro team in the future then Suomi probably stays best. if you do not need a sustain then just whatever buffer fits best for the content you are doing.
i played this game accidentally just because i saw klukai skin a few month before.. now im saving for her... now i have 100 pulls and i hope i can max her when she release
yea, the skin alone is so good. I just wish I was willing to go V6 on her but I really think if I was to V6 someone it would be Jiangyu but no skins for her that I see.
yea, will need to see how well she holds up when she comes out, if there is not a power creep of her level in CN when she drops I may V6 her. Just need to see.
Ah, that makes sense. The tier list are all over the place from the few I seen. The great thing I can tell though is based on every kit I have looked at, they are alll able to be good. The only thing where having the "best" would matter is in pvp but even then you would need to whale on those best to make them worth it and you only need to be top 50% at least right now for max rewards.
There is no perfect science. What devs really want is for you to spend money. When you think of games like street fighter duel that require multiple teams you simple have to. No content in the game should be unpassable but without multiple teams your gonna have a rough time of it. Not to mention the acquisition of resources to level the units. Sure you get recurring rewards but that is just a feather in a cap. As for the CN meta over usage guide just play and enjoy the damn game. Be cautious of content creators who are obviously whales and trying to follow in their footsteps. The game really does have a slow progression unless you are spending. Once you get to competitive pvp things will become even more problematic. So instead of power creep they will sub in a unit that will make others shine. This is standard practice these days. Girls frontline 2 is a cool game with average graphics as well as a gameplay. Appreciate the video
yep, I try to state as much as I can that I spend and yes I just got access to the real PVP and the whales there are crazy but all the rewards for pulls just requires you to play it. Plus the top reward at least right now only requires you to be top 50% which to me is possible without spending if you are dedicated as many casuals are just going to auto it for the pull rewards.
But the resources are very starved in this game.
I think it's very irresponsible to just say "just enjoy the damn game".
The best advise here would still be, do research first & Pick wisely.
I won't say go meta only, but still, do research & pick wisely.
It's a different story if they are more lenient on the resources.
Also I heard global will have rush schedule to catch up with CN.
My pulling plan:
1- Premium currency:
-V3 Klukai + sig
-V1 vector + sig
-V2 Springfield
2- Standard currency:
-V3 Qj + sig
-V2 Tololo + sig
Vector V1 is real nice. I am for sure getting that, going all in on burn team. I pretty much have the same plan as you on the standard banner as well unless I see something change for Vepley or Mosin Nagant with expansion keys. QJ though for sure as she is my favorite of the standards.
Skipping Wawa?
@@magnomanx
yup
@@magnomanx if they are doing V3 Klukai without spending, yes lol.
V6 klukai here i go
FYI: Mokalatte needs her mod key to perform well, she was mid on release in CN. You can refer to prydwen for the translation for what her mod key does and it's a massive buff especially against bosses. We don't know if MICA will release Mariecurie in global with her mod key or not. Just putting this here because many people are unaware and may end up disappointed when she feels worse than expected.
@@WadeWontson Makiatto isn't very good on release? I pulled v2 Suomi for her 😭
@@xorphz Here's what her mod key does:
"Ambush deals 30% increased Critical Damage. When Absolute Mental Defense (ult) is used, gain Extra Action and refund the Confectance Index used by it. When a Support Attack is used against a Boss-type enemy, apply Sugar Overdose to the enemy for 2 turns, increasing damage taken from Macchiato by 15% (can't be dispelled)."
You can see how it massively improves her damage. She should've been released in this state by default instead of making us spend cores to buff her. What the f*ck MICA ,no wonder CN was unimpressed with her initial performance. Well, most of us in global will need her anyway especially if you didn't get Qiongju and Tololololol, a 2nd team is needed for endgame bosses.
She is alright, the expansion key is just what brings her up even more. You will see many people say most of the units that came before Suomi and Ullrid in CN are skips but the reason is many want to pull V3 Klukai and also dupes of other units after them because they are really good. I personally would not want to not pull for the 6 months it could take to get Klukai V3 on her release.
Montezuma key very strong, ty for the info.
@@Zelarinth I agree, I don't get why people are so obsessed with Kookaburra and why even the devs love her so much (someone who played GFL please educate me). Even if you like her, you can't just dump all your pulls on her because you still need two other teams for endgame bosses.
About MickeyD...I guess she's fine at base, but she doesn't feel like she is competitive with the best dps dolls until she gets her key.
I am still working on my new office area so its a little darker on my camera but this will be fixed in the future.
i just realized you can use cheeta in tololo team so she can get additional action faster.
sadly its tied to her ultimate, i dont know if that worth it or not.
Im looking to build lightning and water team. The deeper i get into the game the more i aporeciate moisan nagant. Also feel her mobility is kinda underrated since she can move again after paralyzing an enemy.
I agree with the first half but not sure what you're takking about in the 2nd half. Where is this mobility coming from?
@F3scorn she has an ex key that lets her move 3 spaces after applying paralyze. Her skill 1 applies paralyze if it did lightning damage. Her skill 2 makes her next attack do lightning damage
Moist and Nougat
Weird to see Centaureissi fall so far, so fast.
its just because Ksneia is better for buffs and can fill sustain so she gets replaced by Vector. Springfield and Suomi are miles better as generic healers. Still a really good pull because we are not getting Springfield for awhile.
just wanted to say thanks for the info, and the sound quality sounds great! First thing I noticed lol.
edit: it might be nice to include that google sheet link somewhere, it looked like pretty helpful info too. It's maybe 'GFL2 Official Release Info Compilation', I think?
Spreadsheet has been added. I thought I had originally as I have been adding it to all my videos mostly from copy and paste. Glad the audio is working out better. It is much better in this room and I have not even put up any on the sound foam yet. I do intend to upgrade my mic so hopefully it only gets even better.
@Zelarinth nice, thank you!
I do believe some character might useful on their own place and if we talking on GB version. most of us know right now we don't have much choice to do, And even less choice on F2P player.
i would love to see more infomation so we can compare them together and we will see what is going on.
btw thanks for video. You did a great job :D
what is supposed to be the global fire team right now? is it sharkry, krolik, qiongjiu, and Ksenia? how do you sustain this team with just ksenia? I see some people using groza in the 2 team boss fights. I feel like I've made a horrible mistake building krolik even with her v6 being acquirable on the makiatto banner
I built her and made it work. Although have not tried Tier 8 bos fight with her yet. Her common key is good so no need to worry about it.
@Zelarinth If you got to 8 with her, that's good news. I'm just on tier 6, I was close to beating it, I'll try again next week after I get Makiatto. Krolik seems like she will be good with the fortification that increases her over burn range so you can kind of just hide her. I'm guessing you replace Krolik with Vector eventually?
It's probably a kill the boss before they kill the team setup considering the burn team wants QJ at v3.
replace krolik with literally anything else until Vector.
@@KyonV13 i dont have the resources to pivot to someone else, my krolik is fully built and level 45. people are super split on this, which is why it's so confusing.
Does Daiyan have a real team? Can’t seem to find any in-depth info about her on the EN side
not that I can see. Her biggest problem is lack of an element but there is the potential of a support buffing physical in the future. Right now she is a high mobility DPS that really fits anywhere that I can see with her kit. Could also see more supports in the future who can convert attacks to an element that she would work well with.
I want Lenna purely for aesthetics
Totally agree with your thoughts on Vepley. She's being downplayed AF right now.
Not having an element and relatively mid damage are why she's being "downplayed". Having an element allows dolls to deal more stability and hp damage if the enemy is weak to it. She also doesn't synergize well with any particular team, which isn't good in a game that emphasizes team building. I like Vepley (she has adorable interactions and dorm poses) but I really wish she was better. Unfortunately, MICA likes making free dolls mid (Papasha is also elementless and has a weak gimmick) because I guess being free means they don't deserve to be too good.
i mean shes good for pushing mobs off the map and debuffing but her dmg later on is mid tho?
@@WadeWontson She brings damage amp, offensive cleanse, aoe, movement down and high mobility. Its true that she doesnt have synergy but her kit is a really good overall one.
Element weakness applies to weapon type too and enemies arent often weak to medium ammo compared to shotgun. So while she does have disadvantages, they arent as strong as you make them out to be.
plus you never know what her expansion key will be. We already also have examples of some dolls able to convert a dols damage type of an attack. Have a support unit that converts a dols physical attacks into a specific element and now you can start seeing a physical team forming and with those types of units they could be really versatile. Will just need to see what they cook up.
@@Tiasung Element and ammo type weakness are two different things, most enemies have both. I haven't been keeping track of which ammo weakness is most common amongst enemies, but I also haven't noticed any ammo weakness appearing significantly more than others. Anyway I believe the ammo weakness will also change with the events, you can bet Makiplier's event will feature more enemies weak to ice and heavy ammo to incentivize players to pull for her, it's a typical gacha tactic.
Anyway...maybe I did downplay Vepley too much but it's undeniable that her lack of synergy holds her back. She'll still be useful to fill a missing role though since not every player can afford to pull for complete teams.
Why do we end up needing 3 teams? I can see 2, 1 for mobbing and 1 for bossing but why 3? A hybrid boss/mob team? I'm making 2 full teams for ice and electric so a 3rd seems unneeded fot me.
Weekly boss fight eventually goes to 3 teams
@@Deepthinker273 teams?! I ain't even got my second team complete 😂
you can at least switch out the weapons and common keys before each fight so main thing you need is the units leveled and Neural Helix
@@Deepthinker27 like 12 units, dang!
Any opinion on Maki's gun in terms of value/ worth?
you don't really need any sig weapon in this game. Her v1 is a bigger upgrade than her sig but it costs more pulls and you could lose the 50/50.
Waiting for the Mosin Nagant expansion key.
yea, waiting to see how they get buffed. Mosin Nagant already is pretty good looking at her V6. So I very easily see her going to T0 on the tier lists with a Tololo level buff.
So maki are a good pick or not sir for f2p?
She is good as she will pair well with Suomi but you will see many mention her as mid until she gets her expansion key. She gets an expansion key in the future which makes her even better. if your complete F2P though you may want to think about the units much farther in the future and whether you want dupes on them. Klukai V3 for example is extremely good. but you would want to save from now until them for it and work with the standard SSRs and Suomi for now.
can u link that document
Added to the description now but its here. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1DogyU3K7ZXw2qbhP1EhRXIAw5nCyIV5G5e-QWviBZME/htmlview#
Lowkey want them all
Thats me. I be spending lol.
My wife G36 is a must
V6 Suomi is good on healing right ?
You only need V1 for good healing out of her. Save V6 for Springfield if you want to V6 a sustain. She because a monster DPS that heals at V6.
Do you think its worth to get Suomi's sig weapon if she's already at V1?
it was for me as a spender but for most I would say no.
i was considering papasha or andoris to trigger 6 action support of QJ.
but both summon died easily and cant be healed/shielded while pumping small damage.
in the end springfield and tololo are the best QJ team..
I am wondering how well these summon work in pvp for drawing out the AI enemy. I am so far beating semi built teams if I can work them into exposing themselves.
@@Zelarinth my original team was QJ,suomi5,sharkry,ksenia,zhaohui5.
then use tololo on other team, and then third team peritya+klukai.
tempted to use electric team for 3rd team but i dont know, im still new to this game.
Edit : sadly for turret is too close, and the robot is auto.
Need 3 teams? What happens if I focus ice team all 4 to v2 signature weapon? Do I still need 3 teams?
Unless you don't care about world boss, you don't need 3 teams.. But if u do then yes u need 2 at lvl 6 boss, and 3 in later stages.
yea, the last parts of the world boss needs 3 teams. but most other content I have seen is 2
What's the klukai team?
Klukai, Mechty, and Peritya. The final person is a sustain, Springfield being the current best but if you build the hydro team in the future then Suomi probably stays best. if you do not need a sustain then just whatever buffer fits best for the content you are doing.
i played this game accidentally just because i saw klukai skin a few month before..
now im saving for her... now i have 100 pulls and i hope i can max her when she release
she is good and her skin is nice to look at as well.
By the way is pronounced Ke-sen-ia. Nice info overall list mate. I am getting them based on element and roles.
Thats how I was originally saying it but couple others have said Xenia lol. I gave up on QJ for that reason and now just call her QJ.
@@Zelarinth QJ's name is a bit hard to pronounce if you don't understand mandarin so its understandable.
As a F2P this is very helpful.
so basically we need a burn, ice and lightning team, gotcha.
We need all the waifus, that's my pull priorities. I should make a short just stating that as a joke video lol
Surprisingly low. 5 have been the minimum all these years.
Oh I'm definitely gonna pull Daiyan
yea, the skin alone is so good. I just wish I was willing to go V6 on her but I really think if I was to V6 someone it would be Jiangyu but no skins for her that I see.
SpringField the power house!
yea, will need to see how well she holds up when she comes out, if there is not a power creep of her level in CN when she drops I may V6 her. Just need to see.
this is guild boss tier, that why lightning team is in low tier
Ah, that makes sense. The tier list are all over the place from the few I seen. The great thing I can tell though is based on every kit I have looked at, they are alll able to be good. The only thing where having the "best" would matter is in pvp but even then you would need to whale on those best to make them worth it and you only need to be top 50% at least right now for max rewards.
me after i got f1 soumi i will try to discipline myself not to pull on banners until VECTOR ,
thats a ways away unless they decide to really change it up.
@@Zelarinth i can wait..if i manage to wait for my exgf to comeback but not happen..ican do it too for vector haahah
Im going pull waifu but my waifu is M4 🥲
Skip all till Klukai