The History of Looney Tunes on Television (Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon) - Nick Knacks Episode
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We take a deep dive into the history of Looney Tunes airing on television, a history involving endless buyouts, bankruptcies, mergers and even a little backstabbing among family members.
If you want a look at the creative history of Looney Tunes, I highly recommend The Merrie History of Looney Tunes:
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So the story of Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon involves Jack Warner, Mob-owned parking garages, about six different buyouts, "E.T.: The Video Game" and the First Iraq War. This feels like an episode of "Connections" where James Burke was drunk that day.
Honestly, finding out that at least one of the ACTUAL Warner Bros was a POS pretty much explains the company's corrupt side all the way up to now. I gotta wonder how he'd react to another POS flushing his company's stocks down the drain.
“And no Bosko. Sorry Bosko.” gives off major “Except for Larry!” vibes from the Jason and the Argonauts number from the Shelf Life episode of Fairly OddParents
Kind of sad, honestly, given that there were probably young kids who liked the character despite not being fully aware of his racial status.
Ehh..all Bosko was is a cheap Mickey Mouse knockoff anyway.
@@darthmeyers074 The character was created and trademarked a year before Mickey Mouse was. Thankfully, it took about five years for the studio to find their own style.
Bosko isn't very interesting, but I've honestly never liked Mickey Mouse. I think he's annoying.
@@ucproductions5810 also, as mentioned in the video, he's a character in blackface so you know incredibly racist. Suprised they aired those on Nick in the late 80s-early 90s. Certainly would not fly today. But atleast he's more entertaining than the next looney tune they created "Buddy". man does Buddy SUCK
@@lamontyaboy718 Frankly, I'm surprised that Nickelodeon would even show a blackface character on television. I get that they couldn't fully obtain the rights to later characters such a Porky Pig, Bugs Bunny, and Daffy Duck, but there were better substitutes that Nick could have used by that point. I don't even think Bosko was tolerable even in the 90s, either. You are right, however, about Bosko being more entertaining than Buddy. Buddy does suck.
An excellent companion piece to The Merrie History of Looney Tunes, which I heard is a good mini-series that everyone should watch along with KaiserBeamz's other videos about anime and animation history. Take it from me, this totally unbiased third party here.
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I actually just discovered Nick Knacks because this episode popped up in my reccs and I thought it was a new Merrie History video. You both do amazing work!
@@TheLooneyTunesCritic you mean AniMat?
Oh, hey! I can to this video from your content.
I can confirm, as I watched all of merrie history of looney tunes after seeing this
Man, with Jack Warner’s conduct, Yakko and Wakko feel like far superior Warner Brothers
And the Warner Sister ;)
@@ZidaneWarner Well he spelt "Warner Bros" not "Warner Bros."
Can't forget the
dot!
Jack also ratted out Commies during the McCarthy hearings and supported the Vietnam War. Kinda a jerk.
@@ZidaneWarner how original
@@ZidaneWarner No, they feel like superior Warner Brothers.
"There was that time Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon almost ruined the first Iraq war"-Poparena 2021
What a wild ride.
Really, it sounds like the war ruined the Looney Tunes promotion.
Another interesting fact that "Looney Tunes" debuted on Nickelodeon just three months after "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" was released, and it was a big hit. Around that time, WB cartoons were still in syndication on local TV stations including WWOR-TV (channel 9) where they carried the pre-48 WB cartoons from AAP along with a mix of post-48 WB cartoons where it was shown in mornings before school, and "Steampipe Alley" with Mario Cantoine also debuted that year, one of the last local TV kids shows to air on Sunday mornings where they throw in some WB cartoons in-between segments, plus games and more, along with a final segment which was like an obstacle course from "Double Dare".
That was because the contracts for those TV stations didn't run out yet when Nickelodeon first ran the Looney Tunes in '88.
Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon: Or how Greg learned to stop worrying and love Warner Bros Cartoons.
Nick was a junky network to air Looney Tunes with ABC's 60s.
Weird to see this on nick I think Cn and boomerang is more fitting
@@Redkodiak1994 Well at the time the broadcast rights was split between Nickelodeon, ABC, local syndication and Tuener (though it was TBS and TNT then Cartoon Network and later Boomerang after the rights with Nickelodeon syndication and ABC ended.
@@stephenholloway6893 ah ok
Finally caught up with this series. It's hard to imagine how Looney Tunes use to air on Nickelodeon when I was first introduced to them on Cartoon Network.
Let’s all boo on Cartoon Network.
@@pikachuhutch234 Or how about let's never do that
@@thenightstar9 Yeah I was JK Kidding on that comment.
I primarily watched Cartoon Network as a kid, but if I was over at a relative or friend's house and they didn't have CN, I watched Nickelodeon. Even then, I always noticed that the Looney Tunes shorts were different from the ones I'd seen on Cartoon Network.
Hearing Bugs shill about how much he likes “Tang” is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
You should see the commercials where Bugs gets chased for Post Alpha-Bits Cereal. I have them as an extra on my Looney Tunes Golden collection DVDs
@@TheEman590 just found some. Hahahaha. So when Bugs wasn’t craving Tang, he was chasing after some brown sugar!
@@SAPProd Sure was! Lol! I love finding these old commercials. I noticed when it came to cereal companies, Post sponsored Looney Tunes, Kellogg's sponsored Hanna-Barbera shows like Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear, and Top Cat, and General Mills sponsored the Rocky and Bullwinkle show and Underdog. Bullwinkle: "Jump onto a bowl of Cheerios." In fact, when I was a kid, Kellogg's was the main sponsor for the Disney Afternoon. Lots of commercials for Cocoa Krispies, Frosted Flakes, Honey Smacks and Eggo Waffles in-between episodes of Talespin and Darkwing Duck.
@@TheEman590 I remember that about the Disney Afternoon! Man, I bet there’s some interesting exploration to be found with cereal sponsors and kids’ cartoons! Thanks for sharing!
@@SAPProd No problem. Learning about entertainment history is fun for me, whether it's music or film and television. Cereal sponsors and their connections to cartoons might be worth a look at. Heck, bringing this back to Nickelodeon, many a commercial seemed to be promoting Post like Fruity Pebbles, Golden Crisp and Honey Comb or General Mills like Lucky Charms, Trix and Honey Nut Cheerios. Mmm...yummy!
The fact that looney tunes in nickelodeon almost screwed up the first iraq war is one of the most insane and hilarious things I've ever heard in my life.
Kaiser Beam's series is incredible but I also recommend the podcast Cartoon Logic for anyone who loves classic cartoons. It's hosted by Bob Jacques (director on Ren and Stimpy) and animation historian Thad Komorowski.
As much flak as Bosko gets, I wanna say Nick leaned just as - if not more - on the Seven Arts cartoons. The real cheap late 60s ones - you were almost guaranteed one or two per show. Bugs Bunny might have been the face in the commercials, but for a majority of the run Nick's version of Looney Tunes was mostly Cool Cat or Merlin the Mouse.
Definitely. I didn't groan as loudly as I did when Bosko or Buddy came on, but I definitely knew when I saw those spinning lines instead of the classic WB popout logo, that I wasn't getting one of my favorite cartoons.
For better or worse, there was at least an eclectic collection of WB shorts that showed the earliest days right up to the limited animation before they stopped being regularly produced. Boomerang/CN's compilation mostly shows the 40's-late 50's shorts with a couple 90's cartoons in the mix, but they have such a limited selection. Every time I turn on that channel when their Looney Tunes block is on, it's ALWAYS "Don't axe me" (and every time the exact scene with "Quackers and cheese? Quackers and milk?"), Boston Quackie, or "Dixie Fryer." The only mid-60's cartoons they air are the not that good Road Runner ones, so make of that what you will. They do put like one or two into the rotation every so often, and they've put some Pepe LePew cartoons back in recently.
I never understood what the various networks had against Bosko, there likely would be no Warner Bros. Animation without him and the mouse would have taken over long ago. The bunny has held him at bay. Mickey Mouse in many ways basically is Palpatine and Bugs is a mix of Obi-Wan and Yoda. No one trolls better and nigh on invincible. Very few toons have fought Bugs and won and usually a pyrric victory at that
It seems that for the early stages of Looney Tunes on television it could have been a rights issue, but there seems to be two major issues with any modern usage of the character. B&W Looney Tunes cartoons NEVER get rerun for one thing. The original recolored Porky in Wacky;and is the earliest cartoon I ever see in Boomerang's rotation. Secondly, they're going to stress the hit characters. Bugs and Daffy, while not the first LT characters, are the big names of the franchise. They're who the mainstream associates LT with. And of course the parade of Sylvester and Tweety, Foghorn Leghorn, Porky Pig, and so on. Characters you'd see on T-shirts and Happy Meals and Funko figures and stuff. Bosco doesn't bring in anyone, except the die hards, and even then he's recognized for his historical importance, not the entertainment value. While the character did have a role in the establishment of WB's cartoons, Porky and Daffy were the first star power characters.
Plus, other than the fact Felix beat Mickey to the market when it came to merchandising, Bosco was never the marketable force that Mickey was. And promoting Mickey to company mascot and cash cow back in the day is partially why Disney stuck with him so long. Had Bosco toys beat Mickey to the market and with greater intensity, they'd probably keep him around as well.
Yeah, up until the "Sorry Bosko" shuffle, Nick had to settle for what was decidedly the "C" package of shorts that no one else wanted. Though that was in part because by the late 80s many local television stations had dropped morning cartoons and the market for syndicated Looney Tunes packages had significantly declined, so WB basically consolidated all the good cartoons that weren't in the Saturday morning "A" package into the one syndicated "B" package, leaving the "C" package (which no one was buying anymore) with the leftovers. And that's what Nick got, because that's all that was available.
And heck, if one considers the a.a.p./UA/MGM/Turner package was still being syndicated outside of WB's control right up until the TimeWarner/Turner merger (Ted didn't just use them for his own channels exclusively), the Nick package was really the "D" package.
When I was little, I thought the 1968-colorized cartoons had actually been made in 1968--hence the modern Warner Bros.-Seven Arts opening and 1968 copyright date--by the original artists (now old, of course) trying unsuccessfully to recapture their old style. Kids can be dumb in a smart way.
Keep Ted Turner and his damn Crayola crayons away from my movie
-Orson Wells
Luckily Citizen Kane never got the colorization process--Welles retained near-total control of the editing of the movie for his life and beyond.
Did he really say that? Welles passed away in 1985, a year before Turner's (failed) acquisition of MGM and its' library.
Would be redeeming and cool if he did indeed say that, though. 😊 (Along with 'Kane' mercifully never getting near the colorization process.)
Ugh, Ted Turner. What a total jerk.
Has no respect for the black and white classics like Casablanca. Ugh!🤦
46:16 This commercial has been stuck in my mind for 30 years. Because I LOVED the Bosco cartoons as a kid, and Nick was BRAGGING that they were going to stop showing them. It felt like a slap in the face to a five year old.
I kinda liked Bosko, not the biggest fan but I didn't hate those cartoons. As a preteen, I never picked up on any racist intonations or whatever the word is. It wasn't as blatant and obvious as others from the era so I feel like it could have worked. I noticed they still played Buddy which had their own problems. If anybody needed to leave for certain, it was Buddy.
Wow, this is a fascinating video. Funnily enough, thanks to this video I finally understand a dimension of the Krusty the Clown character that I never got before. I was completely unfamiliar of the kind of show Krusty was meant to lampoon, this was an interesting look into that era
You did a fantastic job getting all this history out there for us. Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon was my introduction to these characters and I'll always cherish those memories.
I just find it fascinating and kind of hilarious, that after watching the Kaiserbeamz series on Looney Tunes & Merry Melodies, and learning about all the different eras and challenges the studio faced from the 1930's to the late 40's and beyond, Jack Warner had no idea where the animation studio was on his lot, and had no idea what they were making. And while all these great feature films were being made at the Warners' studio, the Warners were having all these squabbles and backstabbing's with each other. Then again, maybe that was to the filmmaker's advantage, especially the animation studio, since they were making this art without the suits looking at what they were doing.
To be fair, one thing neither this video or the Kaiserbeamz videos make clear is the studio where the LT/MM were produced, the original Leon Schlesinger Productions Building, was not located on the main Burbank Warner lot until 1955. It was located on what is now Sunset Bronson Studios in the middle of Hollywood, several miles south of the Burbank lot. In 1955 WB Cartoons finally moved to Burbank. So it's not surprising Jack Warner had no idea where the cartoons were actually being produced, when it wasn't even on the same lot where he spent the majority of his time.
This is something that I believe is virtually unheard of today. It must have been such a luxury to not have the suits breathing down your necks all the time. I also know that each of the major directors: Chuck Jones, Robert McKimson, and Fritz Freling were allowed to hire virtually any animator they wanted. It was only during the early events that are described in this video with TV did any of the suits really start to care about their animation division. This is evident not only in Warner shutting the studios down for a short time but the clear dip in quality when they resumed. I feel that during this time really only Chuck Jones was continuing to turn out quality shorts. It was very sad but understandable when he was fired for working on a feature length animated movie that wasn’t part of his contract. By that time Fritz Freling was on the verge of collaborating with David H. DePatie to create some of the trippiest cartoons but also some of the coolest ones of the 60’s. All that remained was Robert McKimson and his people who were becoming more and more micromanaged by the suits. He was the most stubborn of the bunch and he had the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” guide to his department and you can see that most clearly in his Foghorn Leghorn shorts, which very quickly all started to rely on the same boring format with the only exception being will Barnyard Dawg show up in this one or not? All of this is so fascinating. I never knew the long history of getting Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon. That was where I first saw all these amazing characters. I also was a big fan of “The Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show” as a kid. Although, after a while it used to be shown like either between 10:30-11:30 or 11:00-12:00 just before the end of Saturday Morning Cartoons on ABC and I was either no longer allowed to watch tv that late into the morning or I wasn’t even home when it aired. I had no idea until I was a little bit older that “The Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show” lasted until 2000 which was long after I had grown out of watching Saturday Morning Cartoons.
And now there’s MeTV Toons available over the air, showing classic cartoons 24/7. So glad that kind of resource exists again.
8:12 Boy, what wouldn't I give to be in the same room as Harry when he surely boasted about owning such a character.
Harry: Just to name a few of the many LT characters we have, there's Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Mickey Mouse, El-
(Everybody bursts into a simultaneous uproar of laughter)
Harry: Yes, I know their shorts are a riot. You guys don't need to drive the point home by laughing at just hearing their names alone. Anyway, there's also Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam...
"...Hippity Hopper, the Roadrunner, Wile E. Coyote, Droopy, Tom, *and* Jerry!"
Mickey Mouse is Disney Silly.
@@jamesnelson5618 That's the point. Did you not actually watch the video? It calls out the fact that Harry Warner didn't actually know which characters came form his studio.
@@davezanko9051 is Bosko of course.
Bosko was one of those flagrant depictions of black people that went out of style along with Amos & Andy. And don't even get me started on Eddie "Rochester" Andersen.
correction: at 17:02 when you mention MGM, you pronounced it wrong. the "Mayer" in the name is pronounced with a long "A", the same as "mayor"
While I appreciated seeing Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon (particularly the inclusion of the black-and-white stuff) they didn't have a lot of the classic cartoons I liked, showing instead what I called "the first and the worst"--the very earliest and very last Looney Tunes made. In other words, they not only showed Bosko and Buddy, but the dePatie-Freleng Speedys and Cool Cat.
Yres, but I hadn't seen the former since I was a toddler in the '50s, and I'd only read about the '60s cartoons. I was more than happy to finally have access to the "lesser" WB package.
4:46 - Sounds disturbingly a lot like today, actually.
11:54 - so I guess this is where the stereotype of "cartoons are made for kids" began huh? Thanks for that.
Pretty much, I saw that through my parents.
"Here's all the 3d from this short"..."I'm your dry skin, I need aseremides."
The interesting thing about public domain releases is that for certain black and white Looney Tunes shorts, the redrawn and colorized versions are the ones used instead of the black and white originals, despite the redrawn versions still being technically under copyright.
For the shorts from the AAP package, the AAP titles are present on public domain releases of those shorts, since they directly use the AAP prints (although some look worse than others depending on which PD VHS has them).
In some cases, there was a chance that a still copyrighted short is found on these PD releases, notably "Crowing Pains" with Foghorn Leghorn, "The Unruly Hare" with Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd, and "Gift Wrapped" with Tweety and Sylvester, all of which were made after 1943.
Cartoons aren’t anything without Bugs Bunny and Friends
It must have been miserable being a Looney Tunes fan back in the day, with all the cartoons scattered here and there.
Well yes and no. While it could be harder to keep track of where certain shorts would air, the trade off is the Looney Tunes were always on TV somewhere. There was a period in the mid to late 90s where it was possible and fairly likely in fact that Looney Tunes on Nick and one of the Cartoon Network compilation shows(Bugs and Daffy, Acme Hour etc) would be on at the same time. With the frequency that they were on TV you were bound to catch your favorite shorts on one channel or another at some point.
Much prefer the days of there being too much LT content on TV to keep track of, than the very little to almost none we've had in the last decade and a half.
Wasn't miserable for me. With cable TV, I knew what networks the Looney Tunes were on and when thanks to commercials and my parents TV guide. Between ABC, Nickelodeon, TBS, Fox and later WB then finally Cartoon Network, I've must've seen almost all of them. Oh, and plenty of VHS videotapes to rent from the store.
I remember wondering as a kid why every channel couldn't have the best Looney Tunes cartoons. Now I know!
55:00 "Bill" was actually puppeteer David Strassman, who was very popular in Australia through the Station GTV-Melbourne produced *Hey, Hey It's Saturday* shows. Strassman's main puppets were the extremely bratty *Chuck Wood* and the oh-so-painfully shy childlike *Ted E. Bare.*
Great to hear "On with the show" and "Roadrunner" opening songs again after so many decades. And amazed to know so many i grew up with were a poor copy. (I blame them for my taste in bright odd color combo fashion sense!)
Jack Warner was the ultimate troll!
I do remember as a kid seeing one era of Looney Tunes shorts airing on TBS and TNT and others on Nickelodeon and being confused by it. Now it all makes sense.
Not only that, local TV stations like WNEW-TV in NYC as well as WWOR-TV carried the “Looney Tunes” and so did WGN-TV in Chicago also carries it as well. That was in the 1980’s.
Not to mention the shorts ABC aired as well.
think about that. looney tunes on nickelodeon premiered and ended on September 11th
Explaining Looney Tunes syndication is always so exhausting, so I am happy to have this video to point to now and save me a breath.
I remember having to switch channels a lot whenever a Looney Tunes or Merrie Melodies show was on. Nickelodeon, TNT/TBS, ABC, Fox Kids then Kids WB, then finally Cartoon Network. If it had a Looney Tunes show, I was glued and noted what time it was on. Must've seen close to all the shorts by that point.
43:44 Hey, I remember this! Another memory dug up after something like 30 years. Oh, and 2/18/91 was my 5th birthday, but my family was still living in Germany and I hadn't heard of Nickelodeon. And then Cartoon Network was announced on my 6th birthday.
I was 3 yrs old when it was 1991 and I still remember this too brother
God bless 😇🙏🇮🇱✝️🛐🙏😇
For a moment I thought this was another KaiserBeamz Looney Tunes retrospective
“Time is a web of nonsense.” That fits with cartoons pretty well, honestly.
“All I know is that we make Mickey Mouse”-Harry Warner.
Yes Warner bros president thought they made Mickey Mouse
It just shows how little they cared about the Looney Tunes gang. Especially when Jack briefly closed the studio because he thought 3D films would be popular.
Again for Jack, wow what an asshole!
*"... and no Bosko. Sorry, Bosko"*
Ouch. 😂😂😂😂
Yes, I do remember back when they used to air Looney Tunes, and Merry Melodies. Though, I know it'll be a while, but Weinerville (you know by Marc Weiner) used the live/cartoon wraps so well. That's what got me into the older Chipmunks/Dr. Crashcup shorts, and Batfink. As for Cartoon Network and Boomerang...I can see why the WB has not only allowed for the Flintstones to be aired on MeTV, but also the shorts. Cartoon Network and Boomerang went way out of what they're supposed to be (I'm not going to blame Adult swim for this one).
I remember my mom buying one of those 80's vhs tapes. It's the only place I've ever seen the Dover Boys of Pimento University, and Elmer Fudd's cat end the short by committing suicide via a gunshot to the head. Wild stuff for a 10 year old. You can be darn certain Nickelodeon wasn't going to air that until it was properly edited.
This is why the Looney Tunes were different on every channel! I swore some channels had better Looney Tunes than others but my parents never believed me.
Remember watching looney tunes on nick at nite and Nickelodeon when I was 7 in 1991😌
Ahhhh! Good Ol' cartoon violence. What was the network thinking coming from Pinwheel to this? At least this was where I got exposure to the really, REALLY old black and white shorts that were unavailable elsewhere such as the Bosko, Buddy, and pre 1944 cartoons mostly Porky Pig and Daffy Duck, etc. After the obscurities were out by 1992, I drifted away from Looney Tunes a year later and somewhat moved into Beavis and Butthead territory. Trust me, I wasn't waiting for the Cartoon Network to TKO Nickelodeon's Looney Tunes like they did with USA's Cartoon Express.
I Really miss watching Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon!😂🤣😭❤️📺🎶
31:05 Oh, and 8 years later in 1980, the extremely expensive Western "Heaven's Gate" would flop in a huge way, destroying the Western genre (though it was basically comatose by then), the New Hollywood era of filmmaking that gave us The Godfather, Chinatown, and believe it or not, Jaws...and United Artists as an independent studio. Another distributor bites the dust! Edit: In case you were wondering why exactly MGM became MGM/UA a year later.
the last few minutes of this video are quite literally "old man yells at cloud"
I would like to see similar histories of other major studios' cartoons on TV, particularly Paramount.
This block, Nick Jr. and Count Duckula are very important for Nickelodeon in 1988 as Looney Tunes would be the inspiration for The Ren And Stimpy Show, Rocko's Modern Life, CatDog and SpongeBob SquarePants.
Count Duckula was actually the first animated series Nickelodeon would help co-produce and fund, but we haven't reached the Nicktoons yet and they didn't own it so it doesn't count.
@@SlamTomatoCartoons indeed, it was Nickelodeon first original animated series but not the first show to have creative control by Nick themselves as Cosgrove Hall still had copyright to the Count Duckula character. Doug, Rugrats and The Ren And Stimpy Show were Nickelodeon first original animated shows to have creative control by them making them the first 3 Nicktoons.
Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon is how I first discovered Looney Tunes.
Mostly White? So, more Bosko.
This is good history.
While it’s pretty complicated. There was this huge decline of Looney Tunes in the late 90s, early 2000s.
When Looney Tunes lost syndication in the late 90s, that is mostly where Anime cartoons took the initiative. Sailor Moon, DBZ and of course, Pokemon. All were on major networks.
This was an end of an era. As Tom Ruegger admitted how his career was ruined by Pokemon. Because it was easy, cheap and popular.
1988 was the year it Introduced me to Looney Tunes: WNYW, ABC, TNT, TBS and Nickelodeon! Oh and Public Domain VHS 📼
And don’t forget WWOR-TV where they did “Steampipe Alley” and the Looney Tunes after moving out of WNYW-TV by the fall of 1988.
Ur right, I completely forgot Mario Catone s kids show!
I simply find it very interesting that looney tunes along with animaniacs tiny toons and Pinky and the Brain
All aried on nickelodeon at some point in time I can't wait to see an episode featuring those shows and thier history of airing on nickelodeon as well
I suppose its good to know that WB being idiots with their IP is nothing new.
Um, Greg, you forgot for the fact that Ted Turner tried a second chance to buy MGM by attempting to acquire MGM/UA Communications Co., including the United Artists library, aside from the post-May 1986 film and post-1985 TV libraries, like The Pink Panther cartoons and film series, The Secret of NIMH, All Dogs Got to Heaven and the Rocky and James Bond series on November 29, 1989 but that unfortunately sadly failed.
Yes, television distribution was ridiculous!
i thought the Paramount Decree was the driving force in what lead to today's cinema viewing.
I admit to thinking it was a bit weird when WB cartoons started airing on Nickelodeon. That was back when you could watch WB cartoons on virtually 5 different cable channels (and local UHF stations) in the same hour! Why did Nick have to have them?
I don't think kids even cared back then.
@@chrisrj9871 Except if you're a kid like me with Asperger's who noticed such things!
which I heard is a good mini-series that everyone should watch along with KaiserBeamz's other videos about anime and animation history
12:26 a high quality clip of buddys trolley troubles!
Atari wasn't "destroyed" in 1982. I got an Atari in 1983 and it's games were very popular until Nintendo came out. Atari had Frogger, Pitfall, Donkey Kong, Pac Man and many of the arcade games of the time.
I thought the "2600 E.T Destroyed the Video Game Industry" myth was sufficiently disproved when they dug up that landfill and found a lot more than just ET.. I guess not.. it made a great scape goat though. Also, IMO, the game isnt nearly as bad as it's made out to be. It was no more "obtuse" than Adventure or Raiders or dozens of other Atari games. I just happened to be attached to the biggest movie of the year so people. I guess expected a game that made you cry or something.
I guess it makes sense the glut of offbrand old-ass looney tunes were all because those older shorts were public domain! I did not know about the bad side effects of nick's looney tunes contest though!
MeTV also has reruns of The Flinstones & The Jetsons, as well as a 3hr block of cartoons on Saturday mornings with Popeye & Pink Panther's Party, The Tom & Jerry Show, as well as Bugs Bunny & Friends.
And early mornings during the weekdays they have Toon In With Me. It's fantastic.
@@michellesmith7323 Yes, they mentioned that towards the end of the video at about 54:09.
Oh boy. This is gonna be meaty! This was my introduction to the Looney Tunes! Next time, back to DIC we go!
The past was a mistake. No show so far demonstrates that better than Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon (mostly because a lot of shorts, and indeed, a lot of Golden Age-era animation in general, absolutely relished in racial stereotypes)...but in about 30 years, the present will also be considered a mistake
Such is the relentless march of time, and it stops for no man.
26:32 - Yeah, I remember - without having a clue why as a child - watching a few older Porky Pig cartoons that seemed remarkably bad quality. I remember one particular short that, at one point, showed a clunky car driving down a road, and its wheels were missing for much of the clip. 🙄
“The embarrassment of a company having to buy the broadcast rights to cartoons they made.”
Too bad that doesn’t happen now, eh? Dave Byer will tell you all about it.
34:52-34:59 - Angel Puss was a bad idea all around. Even aside from the blatant racial stereotype, the plot was to have the kid go down to the lake to drown a cat. WTH?
Jack Warner sounds like Vince Mcmahon
Another absolutely tremendous video, thank you sir. I must also request you play Ted Turner in any bio pic made about him, that accent cracked me up. As a life long wrestling fan I've heard plenty of Ol Ted impressions and yours was great.
If I ever do a similar retrospective on Toonami, I'm spending the first episode/video talking about Ted Turner and the rise of his Superstation empire up to the premiere of Cartoon Network. Many a joke will ensue about his accent, love for pro wrestling (WCW brought me to the beach, WWF got me to stay at the beach), and that mustache of his...holy smokes, that mustache of his!
@@TheEman590 What tickles me about all of this is that the WWF actually went all in to rip on Ted Turner in the days leading up to the Turner/Time Warner merger with a character named "Billionaire Ted." I only discovered this not too long ago.
@@GreatMewtwo Ah yes, the infamous billionaire Ted skits. And when Ted Disease was revealed to be the financier of the nWo, they called him trillionare Ted.
@@TheEman590 "I bought myself a network. I bought myself a World Series. I even bought a library of classic movies (heck, I even colorized a few of 'em). But why can't I buy the WWF?"
It’s weird how long ago a lot of this happened and how similar it feels now. Warner Brothers not valuing their animation, having constant buy outs and not sure how to adapt times and being behind competitors. Same story different era. Sad how lasting Looney Tunes and how they’re being treated. Great projects cancelled mid-production.
But this was an amazingly informative and cool video! I’m hooked on your channel now (and can’t lie, very excited for ‘’my’ era of Nickoloden” but I bet everyone says that).
History does repeat itself the Looney Tunes shorts has always has an complicated history with Warner Bros when it comes to their value to the animators and the characters themselves.
The Merrie History of Looney Tunes is well-recommended. Fun and deeply researched.
I grew up with AAP Warner Bros Cartoons back in The 1970's and they were my absolute favorite and still are today. Lucky for me, I can still watch a few on UA-cam despite the fact that some of them are racist😐
Maybe don't know if its guaranteed to a studio to sell the fictional movie episode to walmart kind of maybe on task cause it does have a regular region violance
Metro-Goldwyn MYER?!?
Oh yeah. That's the studio that made "The Wizard Of Ooze".
And famous for classic cartoon: "Tom Injury"
Was that Bobby McFerrin performing the theme song, back when LT's first came to Nickelodeon?
Now that you mention it, it does sound like Bobby McFerrin but I'm not 100% sure if that's him or not.
Because of the Shining the Roadrunner Show theme terrifies me.
My god, I really have missed that mime.
It didn't mention in the video that the Warner Bros. cartoons after 1948 aired on The WB during the Kids' WB block in 1995 in a show called That's Warner Bros.! (later Bugs 'n' Daffy) every weekday afternoon. Later the following year, it aired The Daffy Duck Show on the every Saturday morning.
Those series were essentially the replacement for the former B-tier package that used to be sold in syndication to local stations around the country. By the mid-90s there weren't really many actual independent stations left as the rise of the Fox network in the late 80s led to the formation of the WB and UPN networks, and almost all the formerly independent stations were signed up with one of those. So Warners just used the Kids WB to fill that spot.
Was there a reason as to why the Harman and Ising B&W Merrie Melodies never went to Sunset Productions but rather to a.a.p. eith the rest if the pre-1948 Warner catalogue?
A question I've long had as well. Looking at the two pre-1948 packages, the split is weird. It wasn't a pure color vs b&w split because most Harman/Ising Merrie Melodies (28 cartoons) weren't included in the Sunset package with the rest of the b&w cartoons. But at the same time, the first MM, "Lady Play Your Mandolin", and the few b&w MMs that were made after Harmon and Ising left in 1933 and before the MM series went to color in 1935 (12 cartoons in all) are included, so it wasn't a case of the Sunset package being solely from the Looney Tunes series with no Merrie Melodies at all. It's a weird quirk of history. And one that's now largely academic with the libraries being reunified (and the fact that many of the b&w cartoons have entered the public domain due to their age and failure to renew the copyrights as used to be required. Then again, a bunch of the color cartoons from the a.a.p. package are also in the public domain because United Artists neglected to renew their copyrights, too.
@@davezanko9051if I'm not mistaken I believe it was reported in Variety magazine sometime in the mid-1950s that Jack Warner wanted to get the black and white cartoons on television as soon as possible because he felt they would still be profitable when the majority of television sets in the United States were mostly still in black and white. Of course, before the thought of redrawing these cartoons in color was brought to the table, Jack Warner had already stepped down from his position at Warner Bros in 1967 after selling his remaining controlling interest (shares of the company) to Seven Arts.
@@thehernandezmediacorporation Makes sense. Which is why I find it odd those 28 Harman/Ising B&W Merrie Melodies weren't included with the rest of the B&W cartoons in the Sunset package, instead winding up with the pre-1948 color cartoons in the a.a.p. package that eventually wound up in Turner's hands before Time Warner bought Turner. It just seems like a weird omission, the reason for which has been lost to time.
Im hoping there’s some paperwork/memos in existence related to that deal that might contain language explaining the reasoning on how the splits were determined
Jack Warner was right about the 3D thing, he was just 60 years early
60's and 70's was such an ugly age for company logos
Jack Warner not realizing the value of the Looney Tunes feels like Walt Disney not knowing the value of his animated creations. Apple and oranges comparison, sure, the Looney Tunes were not created by Jack like Mickey was created by Walt; but when you consider Bugs and Daffy are as synonymous with WB as Mickey and Donald are with the Disney studio, it just seems weird.
Fantastic retrospective of this somewhat obscure aspect of the Looney Tunes history! The one thing I'd wish you'd talked more about is your opinion. Did you enjoy watching the Looney Tunes? Are there some characters/directors/eras that you liked more than others? And does your opinion differ based on the way the cartoons are packaged? Do the various compilation formats affect the viewing experience for you?
I always love the history aspects of your retrospectives, but I missed the opinion side of things a bit this time.
There was also a special/backdoor pilot by Filmation, teaming the Looney Tunes with the Groovie Goolies. It's...interesting, but they made a few odd decisions and it's not surprising they didn't get to make Looney Tunes cartoons like they did with Mighty Mouse/Heckle & Jeckle and Tom & Jerry.
Good god. I know too much about Warner Bros. now. Once you hit the drum solo in the middle here mentioning Atari and Qube, that was me watching LGR, Oddity Archive, and Yesteryear. Last year.
I remember watching the Road-Runner cartoons created by Chuck Jones and later DePatie-Freleng Inc. I think Rudy Larriva and Robert McKimson did a good job,but not as good as Chuck's. What do you think?
McKimson plus the one that Friz and Hawley Pratt co-directed were probably the best of the post Chuck Jones era in terms of the Golden Age of Animation. As for Rudy, some of his shorts weren't bad but overall they wasn't that good.
being a german looney tunes fan is suffering
- a crap load of vhs exclusive dubs in the 80s. warner or mgm/ua
- dubs on super8 reels from around 1977
- tv exclusives dubs that aired on different shows, eg 19:20 or 22:15
- even more dubs for shorts that were reused for compilation movies like '1001 rabbit tales'
- when og space jam came, a bunch of shorts were dubbed once AGAIN with the current cast
- i don't even wanna think about the shit-dubs for the public domain shorts :(
and wanna know something ""great""? when warner released the blurays a few years ago, two third of the shorts just came with the english audio! when a bunch of shorts have more than *THREE different*
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Dam...
I just has that feeling as if I was a child in my room watching this.
Thanks.
Ted turner founded founded tnt in 1988 and those missing mgm cartoons were shown every night for one hour vs Nickelodeon showing looney tunes for 30 minutes
Man it's so weird, I don't remember watching Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon at all, we also didn't get Cartoon Network until like 1998 down here, my LT viewing was very much a Saturday morning on TNT thing for me.
It also led into Gilligan's Island on that channel so I like, watched all of Gilligan's Island as a kid weirdly.
But what's extra weird is despite no memory of Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon, I intensely remember and have all the nostalgia for that Looney Tunes Nickelodeon bumper with Foghorn Leghorn and the Accordion. I must've saw that dozens of times lol
I was born in 1998, so it's very weird for me to see Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon
Everybody GET UP it’s early morning!
Also, AAP had the rights to Paramount's 1940s Superman cartoons (they're now in the public domain).
I don’t see AAP on any Flesicher/Famous Studios “Superman” cartoons. DC also has the rights to the 1940’s “Superman” cartoons, I’m not sure if AAP had the early first-run syndicated “Superman” TV show with George Reeves from 1953 through 1957.
I don't think they ever did, AAP only had the Paramount Popeye shorts besides the pre 1950 Warner films and the pre 1948 animated shorts.
I read somewhere that the original distributor of the Adventures of Superman live-action series, Motion Pictures for Television, had the rights to the Superman cartoons.
@@Musicradio77NetworkIt was a DC Comics that time, before the owner is Warner Bros.
Disney invents the concept of "intellectual property" and keeps lobbying Congress to tinker with US copyright law so that the sun will go red giant before the copyright on Mickey Mouse expires...meanwhile Warners allows a quarter of their cartoons to go into the public domain, resulting in a glut of unlicensed VHS collections with box art drawn by someone's five-year-old kids. (Okay, to be fair there were also some unlicensed Disney VHS collections with equally hilarious box art.)
Good video but ET didnt cause the video game crash
I remember the bugs bunny and tweety show. It aired after 1 Saturday Morning. I also remember my mom watching it with a 4 year old me and saying "wow this is REALLY violent."