It seems to me that when you say “living in a society that outlaws murder is ultimately what’s best for the individual so they don’t get murdered”, that it actually escapes ethical egoism and actually enters ethical altruism because this claim takes the view of the lawmakers of a society and not the individual the may benefit from murder. Thoughts?
@@tridoshic1688 Response Excellent comment! I appreciate this nuance. A few thoughts. First, I was mostly aiming to be charitable to a view with which I disagree, attempting to present it in its best light rather than its worst. In this sense, while I think ethical egoism *can* lead to the claim that murder is morally acceptable (indeed, I would argue that it’s only logical that the moral system remains open to this possibility), I also know that most ethical egoists do not advocate for the morality of murder, many for the reason I shared (more on this point below). Second, I'm not sure I agree that the situation I described enters into ethical altruism (unless I'm missing your point, which is a real possibility). If the working definition of ethical egoism is outlining the parameters of morality based on self-interest, it is at least possible to imagine an ethical egoist rationally ariving at the conclusion that what is in their best interest (and therefore what is moral) is to seek a stable and lawful society (e.g., without murder); therefore, that is the moral thing for that person to do. It is moral only because it ultimately benefits them to do this. (For more on this point, check out iep.utm.edu/egoism/#:~:text=Though%20interaction%20can%20either%20be,of%20an%20individual's%20greatest%20good.) Third, and here’s where I think we might be running into an issue, this position of the ethical egoist does not hold that murder, as an individual act, is immoral. It merely holds that it is moral to seek a stable and lawful society in which murder is not permitted. This is, I think, a key point (and one I think you’re keen to sense). So, what the ethical egoist is saying is that it is in their best interest to present murder as wrong (or at least illegal). Because it is in their best interest to do so, presenting murder in way is the moral thing to do. Thoughts?
Once upon a time right or wrong was relative to culture, but the www and technology is creating a set of behaviours that are standard across all cultures. So,the argument for subjectivity or objectivity when we talk about ethics is slowly losing its appeal. For example, when I consider the https protocol, I feel, in these modern times, the hypothesis of these ideas - consequentialism, denotolosm - is changing. I would like to see you integrate the impact of the www on these concepts?
I've not heard many people describe themselves as "anti-deontology." But that's a sign that you're probably heavily leaning toward consequentialism, as you say.
It's a real issue. Some people tell me that they listen to my lectures on 50% or 75% speed. That might help. Or, I could slow down 😏 It's funny that you mention being a rapper, though. In another life, that's exactly what I try to do (emphasis on *try*): Two raps I wrote for my son: About Dinosaurs: ua-cam.com/video/as4h2IglA78/v-deo.htmlsi=GIQFMlr2YRM9cwBp About Minecraft: ua-cam.com/video/egFyhER9f0g/v-deo.htmlsi=oBcIiTnxwqERlTbA Some live stuff: Alphabet Aerobics (Blackalicious): https: //ua-cam.com/video/xAXH7oLkLfU/v-deo.htmlsi=cXS1Uo0iJHtejQvD Lose Yourself (Eminem): ua-cam.com/video/7dwcxvOBsdg/v-deo.htmlsi=kP6sVe8E4avMG-ZN Cover with Original: ua-cam.com/video/FGD2B63uKpE/v-deo.htmlsi=NglTVrE4FjrmpLsv
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It seems to me that when you say “living in a society that outlaws murder is ultimately what’s best for the individual so they don’t get murdered”, that it actually escapes ethical egoism and actually enters ethical altruism because this claim takes the view of the lawmakers of a society and not the individual the may benefit from murder. Thoughts?
Also seems like a category error because this is applying a societal context rather than a subjective view for ethical egoism
@@tridoshic1688 Response
Excellent comment! I appreciate this nuance.
A few thoughts.
First, I was mostly aiming to be charitable to a view with which I disagree, attempting to present it in its best light rather than its worst. In this sense, while I think ethical egoism *can* lead to the claim that murder is morally acceptable (indeed, I would argue that it’s only logical that the moral system remains open to this possibility), I also know that most ethical egoists do not advocate for the morality of murder, many for the reason I shared (more on this point below).
Second, I'm not sure I agree that the situation I described enters into ethical altruism (unless I'm missing your point, which is a real possibility). If the working definition of ethical egoism is outlining the parameters of morality based on self-interest, it is at least possible to imagine an ethical egoist rationally ariving at the conclusion that what is in their best interest (and therefore what is moral) is to seek a stable and lawful society (e.g., without murder); therefore, that is the moral thing for that person to do. It is moral only because it ultimately benefits them to do this. (For more on this point, check out iep.utm.edu/egoism/#:~:text=Though%20interaction%20can%20either%20be,of%20an%20individual's%20greatest%20good.)
Third, and here’s where I think we might be running into an issue, this position of the ethical egoist does not hold that murder, as an individual act, is immoral. It merely holds that it is moral to seek a stable and lawful society in which murder is not permitted. This is, I think, a key point (and one I think you’re keen to sense). So, what the ethical egoist is saying is that it is in their best interest to present murder as wrong (or at least illegal). Because it is in their best interest to do so, presenting murder in way is the moral thing to do.
Thoughts?
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Once upon a time right or wrong was relative to culture, but the www and technology is creating a set of behaviours that are standard across all cultures. So,the argument for subjectivity or objectivity when we talk about ethics is slowly losing its appeal. For example, when I consider the https protocol, I feel, in these modern times, the hypothesis of these ideas - consequentialism, denotolosm - is changing.
I would like to see you integrate the impact of the www on these concepts?
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Do you lecture on Metaphysics also??
I don’t currently have an introduction on metaphysics. Perhaps down the road.
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I’m anti-deontology, consequentialist
I've not heard many people describe themselves as "anti-deontology." But that's a sign that you're probably heavily leaning toward consequentialism, as you say.
Bro, can you speak slowly?? Your material is so good, but You speak like a rapper, 😢😢😢
It's a real issue. Some people tell me that they listen to my lectures on 50% or 75% speed. That might help. Or, I could slow down 😏
It's funny that you mention being a rapper, though. In another life, that's exactly what I try to do (emphasis on *try*):
Two raps I wrote for my son:
About Dinosaurs: ua-cam.com/video/as4h2IglA78/v-deo.htmlsi=GIQFMlr2YRM9cwBp
About Minecraft: ua-cam.com/video/egFyhER9f0g/v-deo.htmlsi=oBcIiTnxwqERlTbA
Some live stuff:
Alphabet Aerobics (Blackalicious): https: //ua-cam.com/video/xAXH7oLkLfU/v-deo.htmlsi=cXS1Uo0iJHtejQvD
Lose Yourself (Eminem): ua-cam.com/video/7dwcxvOBsdg/v-deo.htmlsi=kP6sVe8E4avMG-ZN
Cover with Original: ua-cam.com/video/FGD2B63uKpE/v-deo.htmlsi=NglTVrE4FjrmpLsv
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please teach slowly
Yeah, I speak quickly. I know other use the time function to listen to me at half or 75% speed. Might be helpful!