How High Is Marvin Bagley III’s Ceiling? | Rookie Midterms | The Ringer

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  • @nickgreen9080
    @nickgreen9080 5 років тому +353

    Ayton, Bagley, Luka, JJJ and Trae May become one the best top 5s ever

    • @joshuabarr9262
      @joshuabarr9262 5 років тому

      Almost definitely

    • @patricija4179
      @patricija4179 5 років тому +24

      @Jordan S hahahaha

    • @patricija4179
      @patricija4179 5 років тому +3

      I was gonna jump on you because i read "THE BEST TOP 5"

    • @Chuckwagon1515
      @Chuckwagon1515 5 років тому +31

      Jordan S Ayton is fantastic

    • @Ashish-xm9ol
      @Ashish-xm9ol 5 років тому +13

      Best ever clearly Lebron,Wade,Bosh,Melo and Zaza

  • @thebigwagyu
    @thebigwagyu 5 років тому +149

    Before MPJ got injured, this draft had like four guys who you could debate going first. This draft was loaded at the top and history will only look even more fondly on it as the years pass.

    • @NotOneToFly
      @NotOneToFly 5 років тому +9

      If MPJ heals up right, this draft may go down as the biggest power shifting draft in modern NBA history.

    • @thebigwagyu
      @thebigwagyu 5 років тому +8

      There really isn’t a bust in the top ten. Mo is raw, and he got hurt, but he was a defensive presence when he was on the court.

    • @renzocabarco472
      @renzocabarco472 3 роки тому

      From the future and I have to say still accurate. They getting hella bags.

  • @MrClarkkkent13
    @MrClarkkkent13 5 років тому +260

    this is a really well constructed piece. you, my friend, deserve more recognition. keep up the good work.

    • @OwnFall420
      @OwnFall420 5 років тому +2

      Dime Drop is the best basketball content creator on UA-cam

  • @CrazyKonaKai
    @CrazyKonaKai 5 років тому +205

    Starting Bagley out the gate next year is key to the Kings breaking 45 wins, here's hoping they don't overpay cauley-stein

    • @nickgreen9080
      @nickgreen9080 5 років тому +41

      Kona Kai they should target Demarcus cousins, he’d look good in a Kings jersey

    • @CrazyKonaKai
      @CrazyKonaKai 5 років тому +8

      @@nickgreen9080 hello 911? please come pick me up i'm scared

    • @meredithleavitt5815
      @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому +6

      Hell start whether wcs is back or not

    • @CrazyKonaKai
      @CrazyKonaKai 5 років тому +10

      @@meredithleavitt5815 totally! But getting WCS out of the picture will open up Giles and Bagley being the staple bigs

    • @meredithleavitt5815
      @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому

      @@CrazyKonaKai there the staple bugs anyway. Joerger already said bagley fox and Giles are the core.
      Buddy is 7, 8 years older than those guys

  • @siddharthbhaskara5924
    @siddharthbhaskara5924 5 років тому +62

    When MB3 was at Duke, his life was literally class and basketball. He’s crazy committed to getting better

    • @jeffotte6672
      @jeffotte6672 5 років тому +1

      what is your source for this?

    • @siddharthbhaskara5924
      @siddharthbhaskara5924 5 років тому +19

      Current Duke senior who never once heard of or saw Bagley at the off-campus bars in the year he was here.

    • @Time_Lapse_Master.
      @Time_Lapse_Master. 5 місяців тому

      @@siddharthbhaskara5924 Damn how'd that go?

    • @siddharthbhaskara5924
      @siddharthbhaskara5924 5 місяців тому

      You got me man lol, dude’s a generational draft mistake

    • @Time_Lapse_Master.
      @Time_Lapse_Master. 5 місяців тому

      @@siddharthbhaskara5924 Was he really that hyped 5 years ago? In hindsight he never really made much sense over the Euroleague MVP

  • @Pau1danelli
    @Pau1danelli 3 роки тому +2

    Anyone else coming back to these videos two years later just because his voice super relaxing?

  • @lajohnjackson1935
    @lajohnjackson1935 5 років тому +23

    15 and 8 in 25 min for a raw rookie, his work ethic is underrated. Will become a superstar, he’s also weak his body will be different year 4 and I feel confident saying that because of his work ethic. Look at Giannis

  • @ToxicRice12
    @ToxicRice12 5 років тому +30

    This is pretty spot on. The kings are gonna be must see tv next year. Fox is a future superstar and bagley will be a stud

    • @ralphmaginto3086
      @ralphmaginto3086 4 роки тому +1

      And Luca will be phenomenal and once in a lifetime generational talent. What a pity.

  • @DownTownnnnn
    @DownTownnnnn 5 років тому +28

    One of the best, most professional breakdowns on a player that I've seen. Great work! I was at draft night and was stoked we got Bagley! This guy is gonna be a Superstar!!! Blessed Bagley

  • @LG-qm9zp
    @LG-qm9zp 5 років тому +6

    I need the full version of "Who is Kicking Themselves"...A true banger

  • @curtdover
    @curtdover 5 років тому +17

    My kings actually getting love for once? Is this a dream?!?! :)

  • @PsychItsMike
    @PsychItsMike 5 років тому +7

    You get my like for the In-N-Out reference. Good job Ringer people lol

  • @talhaumar8499
    @talhaumar8499 5 років тому +10

    In transition he seems more quick than most 6'11 big men, his lateral quickness and the ability to leap towards 2nd chance opp. already gives him a good start to become a great player. His decision making and BBIQ on both sides are symptoms most rookies tend to experience, so ironing out those problems won't be an issue.

  • @shabazz360
    @shabazz360 5 років тому +11

    Bagley is looking like a future perennial all star talent wise.

  • @dmatt5017
    @dmatt5017 5 років тому +2

    Draft was soooo deep. Genuinely Insane

  • @janpeter6447
    @janpeter6447 4 роки тому +4

    That part about drafting Luka only being worth it if he’s a sure 1st team all NBA MVP caliber player got answered quicker than most of us thought I guess. I wonder what Kyle Man would say now about 1 year after that video about that whole topic. Marvin missed a lot of games and thus didn’t quite fulfill his promise. Meanwhile Luka played some significant ball in Dallas. Additionally someone like jaren jackson over in Memphis who was drafted right after Bagley also seems to outperform him and having him, in contrast to luka and trey would not intersect with Sacramento having Fox as their ballhandler

  • @8072-n1m
    @8072-n1m 5 років тому +5

    I love the dime drop

  • @exqusi
    @exqusi 4 роки тому +14

    7:52 Luka is just that🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @aric.4480
      @aric.4480 3 роки тому +1

      Lmao exactly how it ended up

  • @seunbamgbose1277
    @seunbamgbose1277 5 років тому +8

    I love your style, you make really great Content

  • @zigzag44444
    @zigzag44444 5 років тому +3

    He will be a star for Sacramento forsure! Has so much potential! All they really need is that one star to completely break out into allstar form. If him and fox and heild all show up next year and almost all 3 average 20 a game they will be a good playoff team.

  • @karl-erik4875
    @karl-erik4875 5 років тому

    the vibe of this video is perfect

  • @TheKnicks2012
    @TheKnicks2012 5 років тому +1

    Talk about Mitchell Robinson. Has an interesting backstory which made him a 2nd round pick. Also a 5 who can jump out the gym, guard the perimeter, is a blocking Messiah, and plays under 20 minutes.

  • @shaulyehudah29
    @shaulyehudah29 5 років тому +1

    That 360 oop is my favorite in game dunk this year.

  • @tommcneill6292
    @tommcneill6292 5 років тому

    These are so good. Please do not stop making these.

  • @joeyh31
    @joeyh31 5 років тому +1

    My favorite series. Dime drop is the fucking man.

  • @parsevaldepalma7211
    @parsevaldepalma7211 5 років тому +1

    these are such good quality underrated channel for sure it’ll get big soon that’s a fact

    • @mrazcatazz
      @mrazcatazz 5 років тому

      You should also check out J Kyle Mann's other vids on his UA-cam channel, The Dime Drop :)

  • @goodday4221
    @goodday4221 5 років тому

    The Ringer's edu-vids are some of the very, very best on UA-cam. not just in terms of basketball videos, i mean in general; the presentation, the pacing, the information, the length, the content. i'm a die-hard basketball fan but it's not hard to see that these videos could be interesting to *anyone* interested in sports

    • @mrazcatazz
      @mrazcatazz 5 років тому +1

      You should also check out J Kyle Mann's other vids on his channel, The Dime Drop :)

    • @goodday4221
      @goodday4221 5 років тому

      @@mrazcatazz yeah i think that's who i meant. My bad, The Ringer has great presentation and is a bigger brand so i might have just autopiloted th at one. Definitely meant The Dime Drop

  • @movementman9777
    @movementman9777 5 років тому +12

    Do Wendell Carter even though he’s missed the last 40 games but nobody talked about him all season.

  • @patbenson8409
    @patbenson8409 5 років тому

    I love this series! I always learn more in these 10 minute videos than a month of debate shows

  • @brandonliau2923
    @brandonliau2923 5 років тому

    That in n out graphic was incredible, love your videos man

  • @justdirt
    @justdirt 5 років тому

    I wish you started doing this last year. I love that draft class

  • @elroc1
    @elroc1 5 років тому

    I love this series. This is the kind of content that makes The Ringer so great 👍👍

  • @crackerjack9320
    @crackerjack9320 5 років тому +5

    Excellent point on not taking Luka. If bagley improves as much as fox did in the off season...look out!

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 4 роки тому +1

      Look out! Luka got his Mavs gang fighting for the 6th spot while the Kings young talents can't even get them to 30 wins. But that Bogdan Bogdanovic gon look good wearing another jersey for a playoff team looking for his shooting and playmaking.

    • @ralphmaginto3086
      @ralphmaginto3086 4 роки тому

      And lucky Mavs move up to third and take Doncic, My condolences to Kings.

  • @Niner4Life707
    @Niner4Life707 5 років тому +8

    MVP in 4 years. 👍

  • @cbass2667
    @cbass2667 5 років тому +7

    You guys should do a rookie midterm on Harry Giles.

  • @rossjn9885
    @rossjn9885 5 років тому +6

    I believe Marvin is an MVP level talent. Offensively, he’s Anthony Davis with a sturdier body.
    I see him taking leaps and bounds if he continues to work hard. Fringe all-star next season and All-NBA potentially by year 3.

    • @Wade9089
      @Wade9089 4 роки тому +3

      Jordan S lmfao imagine how stupid this guy feels right about neo

    • @Wade9089
      @Wade9089 4 роки тому

      Now*

    • @allenxavier6073
      @allenxavier6073 4 роки тому

      what now?

  • @Billy0317
    @Billy0317 5 років тому +1

    Are they doing to do more of these?

  • @FilmSwitch
    @FilmSwitch 5 років тому

    Always great player breakdowns that let just the right amount of personality shine through. Can’t wait for the next!

  • @benhaney5843
    @benhaney5843 4 роки тому +6

    Luka does seem to be THAT good though. That conversation has already come up and been mostly decided. Luna is already a MVP level guy.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 4 роки тому

      Ssshhh don't remind those Suns and Kings fans. They are never gonna hear the end of it when they keep seeing in media that Doncic can get his team in the playoffs. Meanwhile Suns/Kings got their own bunk ass bigs trying to post up and not do PnRs/DHOs and succeed in this modern NBA. Good luck with them at that point.

  • @ishaansingh5813
    @ishaansingh5813 4 роки тому +6

    in hindsight, luka a 1st team all nba, mvp level player in his second season....

  • @Cheznator
    @Cheznator 5 років тому +2

    You hit the nail on the head with "who's kicking themselves" people need to realise that fox's maturation and growth into the blossoming superstar he is now wouldn't be possible with Luka's ball dominance and slower play style, they're both possible franchise goats and MVPs and bagley perfectly compliments fox while porzingus does the same for doncic

    • @njstuckey
      @njstuckey 5 років тому +1

      Came here to say this. Even with Doncic exceeding expectations, picking Bagley was the right call. It shows that the organization gets it. I think that, as much as teams want to stockpile overall talent and just "make it work" that's not a way to build a team for the long haul.
      The next few years are gonna be so exciting for Mavs, Kings, and Hawks fans. I don't know about Suns, sorry Ayton :(

    • @meredithleavitt5815
      @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому +1

      Fuck that. Even if the kings didnt have fox bagley is the better prospect. Period

    • @meredithleavitt5815
      @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому +1

      @@njstuckey did 42 pct fg and 32 pct 3s and the worst defense in the nba really exceed ur expectations for a rookie who's really in his 5th pro season?
      Wow, u must've had pretty lo expectations lol

    • @njstuckey
      @njstuckey 5 років тому +1

      @@meredithleavitt5815 you need professional help if you think Bagley is the better prospect than Doncic.

    • @meredithleavitt5815
      @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому

      @@njstuckey really? Lol
      Bagley projects to drop 25 n 12 next season
      I guaruntee luka fat kid never comes close to those numbers in his entire career

  • @GodDidMeWrong
    @GodDidMeWrong 5 років тому

    that vivek clip of him saying stauskas is still funny

  • @jacobarnold9300
    @jacobarnold9300 5 років тому

    Great video, pretty spot on.. we are going to be a scary looking playoff team next year.. 2020 is the year!!

  • @jamesharrison1579
    @jamesharrison1579 5 років тому

    This is an amazing video! Great work

  • @robs5794
    @robs5794 5 років тому

    music choices are prime in these vids, need the links to the full tracks if available!

  • @FencingGold
    @FencingGold 5 років тому +1

    Love his game! Not joking about tying his hand behind his back. Boozer did that & it gave him offensive ambidexterity!

    • @meredithleavitt5815
      @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому

      Hes been usi g his right hand. Obv the fat fucks at the ringer dont watch too many games lol

  • @nosrellom
    @nosrellom 4 роки тому

    lol at Cauley-Stein trying to out-muscle Adams at 8:33

  • @wondonkb
    @wondonkb 5 років тому +3

    Do Shai Gilgeous-Alexander he one of my fav rookies

  • @kingsfansneak1886
    @kingsfansneak1886 5 років тому +1

    I don't know why the per 36 #s were not used for Bagley. Or how every game he just kept getting better and better. His Summer League was a disaster a part from the first quarter in the Summer Classic. He has grown so much sense his debut. He truly wasn't ready for the NBA game 1. Now he is a franchise player. Free throw attempts usually tell that story.

  • @adamholbrook9575
    @adamholbrook9575 5 років тому

    Very well made video. Subscription earned.

  • @ozdog206
    @ozdog206 5 років тому +1

    Definitely the next K.D 2.0. Young man has faith in God and great family support and heart.
    Think he is 20 with all star ability. He will continually develop. Definitely. God bless the Bag family.

  • @ricardiocavalia31
    @ricardiocavalia31 5 років тому +2

    Please do Jaren Jackson Jr. next, then Wendell Carter Jr.

  • @bengliedman8427
    @bengliedman8427 5 років тому +1

    This guy has his own channel @the dime drop

  • @hoodoolem
    @hoodoolem 5 років тому +1

    I was hoping you’d do Ayton comparison and ask if the Suns are kicking themselves looking at how the kings have played this season.

    • @Knowledgebaby1
      @Knowledgebaby1 5 років тому

      I was wondering that myself but I don't know if even the lowly suns would be kicking themselves over this one. While DA may never be Shaq he is still a pretty good scoring big. If they can draft a defense PF they may be ok.

    • @meredithleavitt5815
      @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому

      They are. Bagley shits all over them everytime they play lol

  • @daniellee8705
    @daniellee8705 5 років тому

    i really hope you guys do a video for mitchell robinson!

  • @slowswitch144p
    @slowswitch144p 5 років тому

    Looking back luka or trey would of been a way better pick who would pick fox over luka or trey young

  • @bookaufman9643
    @bookaufman9643 2 роки тому

    At first I didn't realize that this was a three year old video. It kind of sucks that Bagley had such a good start and if you look at his numbers over the past 4 years they're almost exactly the same every year. He's a 14 pts and seven rebound guy. But there is a bright side to all of this. Number one is he still plays anywhere from 23 to 26 minutes so his numbers are actually pretty good if you stretch them out to 38 minutes or something like that. I believe that's what one of your star players will probably play. The other good thing and this is the best thing by far is that his shooting percentages have become much better last year. And 2022 or the 2021 2022 season he it at 55%, which was many points higher than any previous year. So it's taken several years for Bagley to change his numbers in any way for the better but even though the numbers look the same last year he did it on much higher efficiency and so he may be moving towards being an above average or even good big man. Maybe a top seven or eight big man in the league but he's not quite there yet. I'm writing this in September of 2022 so let's see how next season goes?

  • @dunkindon123
    @dunkindon123 5 років тому

    Quality video, as always.

  • @rellik99
    @rellik99 5 років тому +15

    Can we get one on Mitchell Robinson

    • @moesty
      @moesty 5 років тому +2

      evan deyoung facts, his potential is outta this world

    • @EDTheOneable
      @EDTheOneable 5 років тому

      Facts. He's a monster big man should of been a top 10 pick and definitely better than Ayton and Bamba already.

  • @goldsilverandiamonds
    @goldsilverandiamonds 5 років тому

    Dude's only 19 he'll be a 10 to13 year all-star. Freakishly athletic, great work ethic, willingness to learn from others, teachable, better defender than people thought and getting better, developing three point shot, not afraid to rebound, good low post game, good passer and getting better. Young with plenty of time to get better. Potential to seriously average 30 pts 15 rebs a game. He will be considered the top draft pick of 2018 when all is said and done.

  • @omritu
    @omritu 5 років тому

    Can we get a full version of "who is kicking themselves"?

  • @tonilando
    @tonilando 5 років тому

    How good is the 2018 draft class, potential and ability through out the 1st and 2nd round picks, the first 5 are all currently good to great nba players and even further back bamba, mpj, Robinson, brunson to name some have potential

  • @charles_miner
    @charles_miner 5 років тому

    Adding Dime Drop is the move to make. I don't watch anything else Ringer produces

  • @JordTMata
    @JordTMata 5 років тому +4

    lol why did you use a picture of the London bridge for Sacramento

  • @lannnnn77
    @lannnnn77 5 років тому

    Please do a video like this about Jaren Jackson

  • @harry9828
    @harry9828 5 років тому

    I love this video. It’s my exact thoughts

  • @solidkingcobra
    @solidkingcobra 5 років тому

    is there a Harry Giles one? because technically it's his rookie year too.

  • @PsyCyPsy
    @PsyCyPsy 5 років тому +1

    Jaren jackson or miles bridges next?

  • @dylankeoni2822
    @dylankeoni2822 5 років тому

    Can you do Jaren Jackson Jr.?

  • @aaronyaish9545
    @aaronyaish9545 5 років тому

    Make one on mitchell robinson

  • @alghamdymamao584
    @alghamdymamao584 5 років тому

    fox, hield and bagley damn the kings got somethin

  • @HonkShooey
    @HonkShooey 5 років тому

    We have 4 of the top 5 down. Can we get a JJJ breakdown?

  • @juanmanuelcaso5047
    @juanmanuelcaso5047 5 років тому +2

    2018 will be a better draft class than 2019

  • @meredithleavitt5815
    @meredithleavitt5815 5 років тому +1

    Did this dude just say above average fluidity and speed for his size?
    Hes literally the fastest big in the nba wtf kind of understatement is this shit?

  • @Jerremyyy
    @Jerremyyy 5 років тому

    Mitchell Robinson next please!

  • @jackviglianco6907
    @jackviglianco6907 5 років тому

    It will probably be lost in the comments and, but could you eventually get to Collin Sexton?

  • @Jordymonn
    @Jordymonn 5 років тому

    Do Ayton again plz

  • @moneygrow2890
    @moneygrow2890 5 років тому

    That soldier at 0:02 looks like dave joeger

  • @purenonsense57
    @purenonsense57 5 років тому

    Can you do jaren jackson jr and miles bridges?

  • @djgutic
    @djgutic 5 років тому

    Marvins ceiling? GRAMMY!!! :D

  • @AngelPerezComedy
    @AngelPerezComedy 5 років тому

    How is it midterms if the seasons over?

  • @jda4460
    @jda4460 5 років тому

    @TheRinger do kevin knox pls

  • @charliemann8509
    @charliemann8509 5 років тому

    Do a Harry Giles video

  • @PrinceNigerian
    @PrinceNigerian 5 років тому

    can you do Mitchell Robinson pls

  • @jeffjeff3987
    @jeffjeff3987 5 років тому

    I would say that he is explosively athletic actually

  • @notaseal7864
    @notaseal7864 5 років тому

    Sacramento is a future title challenger/ Winner. That is however if the Management doesn't fuck it up.

  • @afine86
    @afine86 5 років тому

    Please start showing stats on screen when you say them more!

  • @benhaney5843
    @benhaney5843 4 роки тому +1

    Damn those clips of him going to his right were just atrocious. He totally freaked out and didn't know what to do. Your in the NBA now. Time to put in the hours.

  • @MannyDorito
    @MannyDorito 5 років тому

    Holy shit this is good

  • @blakefountain7138
    @blakefountain7138 5 років тому

    You better make on for JJJ

  • @Henry-tn5vj
    @Henry-tn5vj 5 років тому +6

    Will there be a Kevin Knox episode?

    • @harrischoudhary
      @harrischoudhary 5 років тому +1

      He did one like 10 months ago

    • @kir3167
      @kir3167 5 років тому

      Harris Choudhary not a rookie midterm, that was a pre draft video which he did for bagley, trae, luka, and ayton too

  • @shanefrederick7731
    @shanefrederick7731 3 роки тому

    The Kings should be good if they stay healthy and Marvin develops.
    Fox is an All-Star.
    Buddy is one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA
    Barnes is a capable 3rd/4th banana
    Bjelica is a solid stretch 4 that sometimes shoots nearly 40% from 3.
    Bagley is 20-10 waiting to happen.

  • @benhaney5843
    @benhaney5843 4 роки тому

    Wing span is so important. Even just playing a pick up game I've said to myself, "I think I'm better than this guy. Why does it seem like hes beating me at the rim every time? He's not even taller than me."
    Then...
    "Oh. His fucking arms are so god damn long..."

    • @benhaney5843
      @benhaney5843 4 роки тому

      He compensates with that running hook I suppose. Still, if I was a GM I'd really value a long wingspan in my players.

  • @rossjn9885
    @rossjn9885 5 років тому +2

    Bagley reminds me of Anthony Davis with a more sturdy frame but not as long. He can have a similar impact due to his motor, I would say somewhere between a Pascal Siakim game and AD level takeover capabilities.
    He has a rare magnetism that defenses are forced to collectively draw attention to him because of his abilities. His jump-shot, post game, slashing, and transition offer a rare combination of offensive prowess only seen in the likes of greats in the NBA like AD, LeBron, Giannis, Embiid. He could end up the Sacramento Kings’ first or second best player by the end of the season next year.

  • @Blairskirock
    @Blairskirock 5 років тому

    "basket of tip-ins"
    Nice

  • @StevenSilva916
    @StevenSilva916 5 років тому

    8:30 thought the guy in the back almost fell into a black hole haha

  • @tuckerdoyle4492
    @tuckerdoyle4492 5 років тому

    Do Wendell Carter. No one talks about him

  • @OfficalAlexPlays
    @OfficalAlexPlays 5 років тому +1

    Dude is barely 20 years old. He is going to be an all star essy. His speed and quickness is ridiculous for being 6"11. He doesn't move like a typical 6'11 player. His bb IQ is only going to improve at his young age. Plus he plays with a competitive chip on his shoulder. The Kings fired thier coach today. With guys like Fox Buddy Giles and Bagley on the roster potential coaches have to be salivating for that job.

  • @Cityoftrees1911
    @Cityoftrees1911 5 років тому +1

    He'll be the starting C next season and show out.

  • @αδωνιςφωτακιδης
    @αδωνιςφωτακιδης 3 роки тому +2

    Marv didn’t develop as well as hoped