I've always viewed Savage Opress as an "in-training student" practitioner of Form V: Djem So, given his overwhelming kinetic strikes and overpowering physical strength. With less than a year of training with the lightsaber, he was actually quite good against expert/master level lightsaber duellists who had YEARS of training to fall back on.
Thank You All So Much for Over 70,000 Subs. I couldn't have gotten this far without your support! I Love You ALL. :) Also, Since the Palpatine Video Many of you guys have asked me questions regarding the Tier system we mentioned, so here's a larger version to for you guys to enjoy. Clone Wars Era This list Encompasses Overall Combative Viability. So, Saber Skills, Power and Skill in the Force, and Tactical Viability. Tier 1: Yoda, Mace Windu, Darth Sidious. Tier 1.5: Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus. Tier 2: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Plo Koon, Shaak Ti, Anakin Skywalker. (Anakin kinda flops in-between Tier 2 and 3 due to his tactics and his lack of inclination with the Force) Tier 3: Kit Fisto, Darth Maul, Ki-Adi Mundi, Depa Billaba, Saesee Tinn, Agen Kolar, Eeth Koth, Qui-Gon Jinn, Oppo Rancisis. Tier 4: Luminara Unduli, Rahm Kota, Quinlan Vos, Tholme. Hopefully this helps answer some of your guy’s questions on who is placed where. (In my opinion)
+EvanNova95 This was a fantastic video! I have a question for you though; do you think that Emperor Sidious taught Darth Vader the ancient class system (if not the whole system, at least the inquisitor class) and had him re-make the Sith Inquisitor class? Because everything you said about the Sith Inquisitor class fits the Imperial Inquisitors we see in Star Wars: Rebels.
Great Video. Man this video shows exactly why Savage is such a disappointing character. When I first saw him in the episode "Monster" I was like "Wow this guy is very interesting and has some tragedy in his back story I can't wait to see where they take his character!" *sees the rest of the episodes he's in "Oh....." I think it would be cool if the kinder and more moderate Savage Opress teamed up with Maul, who he wouldn't have seen in years. He could have a strong unwavering loyalty to his brother and desire to protect him as he was forced to kill his other brother and Maul is all he has left. He could have questioned Maul's more ruthless tactics against innocents as he cared for people who were too weak to survive. He would have been conflicted between loyalty and morality. Then he could sacrifice himself for Maul against Sidious and in his death he would have shown Maul that there is something worth fighting for beyond blind revenge. Sorry for the long rambly comment. Keep up the good work and congrats on 70,000 subscribers you deserve it! :)
+Umesh Narayan I agree with nearly everything though I think that rather then succumbing to the weakness of compassion ( In Maul's own words ) Maul would have simply tossed aside his brother's corpse realizing his weakness and continued on his path stronger for having reaffirmed his devotion to the Dark Side. Maul is not a character that would work well if a redemption arc was forced on him.
I don't think that Maul would be redeemed by that. He would have just realized that his relentless quest for revenge blinded him to what was really important. His family. He would not have redeemed if anything he would have become more angry. Despite everything Maul still cared about his brother he just never let him knew that.
Once again I feel like these videos are turning into rants/burials of one of the characters involved in which the conclusion is obvious from the onset. Once again I find myself just skipping through the video (something I hardly ever do) just to get to parts where you make the points I pretty much thought you would. In all honestly, your video are becoming tedious and besides the point in my opinion. I'm not at all saying this be mean or just to be an ass, but to give some constructive criticism as I know you can and have done better.
KOMARI VOSA vs ASAJJ VENTRESS, Dooku's failed apprentices. Maybe even a battle royal with each having some back up from the Bando Gora and Night sisters.
2 years late, but I feel it's a little unfair to use Jensaarai to prove a point. He HATES TCW from what I've gathered. While that doesn't mean he's biased, it doesn't make him a good alibi against Savage. Still, Oppress doesn't get enough credit. I think Antoine Bandele gave the best analysis of him. Self taught, gifted, strong, and smarter than many assume, but not the absolute best. Opponents like Karkko, Komari Vosa, theGrand Inquisitor and clearly several jedi masters (including a few notable ones) are on his level, but I would say overall, he's in the upper parts of that tier (even if he wouldn't beat Karkko specifically, I bet he could beat some guys Karkko couldn't). I would say the absolute height of his power would be around Kit Fisto's, but that's as far as I'd dare to go regarding his power.
Its not really surprising Opress isnt that much of a force user as he didn't have consistant training with it over the short time he had trying to learn it, compared to everyone one elses years of experience. And with his lightsaber its suprising he does as well as he does considering most of it comes from his Zabrak training pre TCW and most of it becoming useless after the changes that happen to him. He still lasted longer than some of the council members against Sidious which was a surprise
+levitikan Indeed. Evan will say that was because he was toying with Savage but I believe it simply shows the level of skill Savage achieved by that time.
He still lasted longer than some of the council members against Sidious which was a surprise Which because sidious was toying with savage rather than killing him outright? There's context behind the battle if you didn't realize it
Loving your work, keep up the good work might i suggest a tag team match with Yoda & Darth Sidious vs Luke Skywalker & Revan. I would find this interesting as you would have two absolute masters of opposing sides of the force vs two force users who mastered both sides of the force. just thought this might be intriguing. Food for thought :D
At first, I thought Savage would win this; but I soon realized it was unlikely, as he'd be helpless against Volfe's Sith sorcery. While I agree with the verdict, there are a few things you might've forgotten about Savage: *His ability to hold his own against two skilled opponents at once (Anakin and Obi-Wan). *The Saber Throw, which he used to behead many of the Black Sun leadership in one swift spin. *The options provided by his lightsaber; to drive one blade down like a stake and, should that fail, activate the other for defense against a counterattack (i.e. his fight with Sidious). Talk about "fallback options." *Savage's ambidexterity, which he displayed seconds before his death. *As he lay dying, Savage laments that he was never like Maul. However, he would've been, had he been given time for more training. It's not that he was a bad Force wielder; like Nuka in _The Lion King II: Simba's Pride_, he just never had a _chance._ That said, nice Versus video. Can't wait for more. Perhaps Maul would have a better chance against Volfe, thanks to his discipline, cunning, experience, and patience.
+DarthWill3 I was going to comment all about Savage and how he would have won this fight but I find I've been charmed by that Lion King II reference. *Vague smile* Maul would stomp Volfe.
DarthWill3 The only reason I give Volfe a 3/10 is because Maul has not demonstrated the ability to block force lightning though he is doubtless capable of such a feat.
William Henning well, for starters, she did kill hundreds of sith, including Darth Nihilus, Darth Sion (who was supposed to be invincible), and Darth Traya.
***** Maul is slightly below Dooku and Vader when it comes to skill and power but he makes up for it by having superior strength over Dooku, superior mobility over Vader and being an overall better unarmed combatant. Plus the margin of difference between Maul and Vader/Dooku in regards to skill and power is negligible.
+Tyler UwateGaming (Gametix) it would definitely not be a stomp Corran Horn was a very good duelist Ending the Uzavong War by dueling the leader. He also is a good force weilder on par with Kenobi he has a stronger force wall.
you did savage dirty here. Everybody underrates him. He took out 2 jedi without even having alightsaber and dodged several of their attacks so he was infact fast as fuck. he ate like 10 lightning blasts from dooku and was always fine in 5 seconds. with less than a year of training from maul he went toe to toe with several council members and killed the female jedi 1v1. his raw force power was STUPID strong, he penetrated the force shields of BOTH dooku AND asajj SIMOULTANEOUSLY and almost force choked them out. He clearly still had martial knowledge and could fight with tactical thinking. He took blaster bolts to the chest like it didnt happen... If he had the time for even TWO years of uninterrupted training he could probably solo most jedi whom have trained since they were kids. if he had 10 YEARS to train he would have long surpassed maul in my opinion and could 1v1 most council members. the only reason he died like fodder was because he fought PALPATINE who literally saw him and his brother as enough of a threat to legit go exterminate them HIMSELF no assasins no bounty hunters no NOTHING. STOP DOING SAVAGE DIRTY.
Y'know, I think there's a solution for Savage Opress' weaknesses and make him more of an intriguing fighter for Versus Series: have him wear armour made of material that resists lightsabers (cortosis, phrik or mandalorian armour) or force attacks. The only unique skill in his repertoire is being able to endure and shrug off physical strikes from Jedi masters (which is actually pretty impressive when you think about it) and because he's so big and immobile the armour wouldn't be much of a hindrance and due to the majority of the Jedi in the Clone Wars era being more specialised towards speed, acrobatics and blaster deflection and less on physical strength, it'd be ideal for Savage to be equipped with gear that allows him to endure strikes from lightsabers, shrug it off and strike while their caught off-guard and within the reach of his weapon and overpower them when they try to defend. He'd still be a sitting duck for force attacks and opponents who can anticipate his attacks (either through familiarity or enhanced-reactions) and are fast enough to dodge his swings but if the writing team of TCW added armour to arsenal he'd at least have some reasonable chance to survive against top-tier opponents and might still have an arm.
+Saiyef96 That would make him OP. Also his speed would not decrease with orbalisk armor by increasing his raw force power it would only increase his physicals. In essence it would make him uber Savage. Even less precise and more sloppy along with being more powerful both physically and in the force.
I just love how Evan still continues to slam vitiate. ever since the release of knights of the fallen empire we've seen that vitiate/valkorion is WAY more skilled then Evan dares to acknowledge. valkorian can one shot powerful Sith lords with like no effort and he can block lightsaber strikes with his hand with just as easily. and those are only a few demonstrations of vitiate/valkorion powers. if you include the Times your character chooses to use valkorion's powers you get a real sense of just how screwed someone like sidious would be in a fight against the true emperor. so yea Evan quit bashing vitiate because it kinda makes you look like a ass :)
This was so disrespectful to Savage: www.comicvine.com/profile/beniboybling/blog/savage-opress-respect-thread/106015/ Had to re-read this to wash out my brain from this video.
an interesting setup and I can see why you did it, warrior versus inquisitor. Are we going to see a typical guardian fight a typical councilor next? Related to that, I fear we may accidentally start putting some squares into circular holes, if we try to put everyone in one of these categories. And to be fair to Savage, I don't think he knew, he could bock lightening with his lightsaber, at one point in his training he asked Dooku "how does one stop such power." and Dooku replied "Only in time as my apprentice will i show you." *slightly paraphrased* Had another idea for a versus episode too, Maul versus Zhana. I'd say Maul is a better duelist, but the big catalyst would be : could Zhana drive Maul insane? if not she would lose, if so she would win. Basically the episode would be a psychoanalysis of Maul.
+Logan Gran Cappello Antoine Bandele might do Bane vs Fett in a voted video. Bane will face either Boba or Jango. Asajj would pancake the Inquisitor hard. He's nowhere near her level.
Great Video as always Evan, Keep up the good work!May I suggest:Plo Koon vs Qui Gon JinObi-Wan Kenobi vs Jacen Solo(not Caedus because I don't think Kenobi has much of a chance there)Mace Windu vs Darth KraytXanatos vs Flint? I dunno would that workLuke Skywalker vs Exar KunCount Dooku/Darth Tyrannus vs Darth Wyrlock III(I don't know the spelling for that name)
What is the definition of a genius? Rather (and more importantly) what is the definition of a person who creates oscar worthy video's every time and puts his heart and soul into everyone? Answer: you Evannova95. This video is just pure genius. I loved how you analyzed Savage's abilities and I especially loved how one person outclass the other in one category but the result is the exact opposite in the next category. Really would like to see another match like this sometime (perhaps Mace Windu vs Darth Krayt?). Congratulations on you getting 70,000 Subs. :) P.S. Do you have a magic power that can speed up time? Sorry I'm just that excited for your next video. :) Always will we subscribers support you 100%. Thanks again Evannova95.
Welp, that was predictable (though well made and argued as usual). Though now I'm wondering if a less one-dimensional if still insanely powerful brute like Darth Malgus would be able to take Karkko out. Also, nice analysis of Shien. It really is a decent jack of all trades form, without falling prey to the weaknesses of "diplomat's" Niman. If I ever were to build a Star Wars RPG/MMO character, my first would be a skill-based Jedi Sentinel or Guardian using a Shien/Makashi hybrid (possibly Jar'kai) with Niman to fill in the gaps.
The outcome was pretty obvious but I really enjoyed your overall analisys, as for suggestions, would you consider feature Darth Marr vs Jerec? or another team versus between Arcann and Vaylin vs Cade Skywalker and Wolf Sazen? just saying. Keep on the good work Evan.
This was quite good actually! I knew Volfe would win! I was expecting Volfe to get a massive edge in the force abilities section, although I did expect him to get the physical edge, but not the duelling edge. Savage would definitely be helpless against the force abilities used by someone like Karkko, who wouldn't even have to put in a moderate effort to subdue him. Great video!
Hey EvenNova95 if you don't mind me asking, what editing program do you use for your videos? And what type of mic do you use? I ask because I'm thinking of starting my own Versus series so any help would be great. Also if you have any advice for a beginner that would rule.
Nice video, but I think we saw that result coming. Is it okay to have a more even matchup next time. Jaina Solo Fel vs Mace Windu for example. Or you can have someone less fleshed out. Darth Sion for example (assuming he dies if he loses).
This was a pretty cool one. Its nice to see Savage used and I'm not overly familiar with Karkko so I was able to learn a bit about him. I'm not sure if this has been done but if it hasn't I think Darth Vader vs Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku would be cool.
Hello evannova. I'm a big fan, and I was wondering if I could ask for your help. I'm trying to start my own vs series, and Don't know how I would get anyone to notice them. I understand if you can't, but I would appreciate some advice. Keep being awesome:)
hey Evan can I ask you something. men and my mates have been talking about how might be the hero's on battlefront 3. we think that Proberly chewbakka is gonna be there. but we do not know who the other once is could you help us alittlebit whit this? btw I love your videos keep up the good work
hey Nova95 here s an i idea i brought up was to make vs video on where exur kun fights darth maul, this should be a really fancy one that s if it not my opinion, oh and yeah i hope you make it & have a nice day.(forgive the red underlines they are spelled correctly.)
I notice a lot of art for Savage's saberstaff has a ridged grip in the center, while others depict it with a row of horizontal rings as a grip. Which is the correct one?
+TheSnowshreader He has which I agree with. It's pretty much pointless when comparing opponents with only a single weapon and that weapon is usually specialized to the form they chose anyways and has its own positives and negatives that are debatable.
Another brilliant video (although the outcome was obvious). Will laugh over the fact that Volfe Carko is really just a Star Wars Count Dracula (more Konami's Castlevania type). It was fun to see a pure Sith Warrior take on a dedicated Sith Inquisitor. On a different topic if you (Evannova95) wish to read a draft of my New Sith Empire lore bible, please pm or e-mail me. Wish to know your opinion once I complete a first draft.
Ok Evan I got a question for you who is the better character savage oppress or Ventress and I don't mean in a vs kinda thing. Who has a better personality, more engaging and over all fun to watch/read etc.... I await your response
2 thing 1. Can khem val be used in a versus series? 2. Rahm Kota vs Lord Vindican. I watched Lord Vindican vs Luminara Unduli and seeing you seeing that Luminara is on par with Rahm Kota, now I wonder if Lord Vindican can beat ol' Kota
So battle between 2 wizards (Vitiate is a sorcerer and C'Baoth is clearly based off of Dumbledore or Gandalf). But, Vititate takes this. C'Baoth can contend and it wouldn't be a stomp but its still Vititate's win. Way more force power (I rank him just below ROTS Sidious), arguably the greatest master of Sith Sorcery and Alchemy in Galactic History, Force Drain, can fucking teleport (apparently), force blast without an amulet, force suppression (C'Baoth could probably deal with this though), and can use tutaminis to deal with lightning. As a overall combative force wielder, I rank Vititate as the second strongest sith (right behind Sidious).
Hey Evan! Just wanted to know if you were going to be doing a versus video including Jedi Master Fay as she is a seriously underrated Jedi for the amount of power she possesses.
I always saw Savage Opress as someone who would swing his saberstaff (is it actually ever explained where he got it from?) back and forth untill he hits something... or someone.
Cid Alderlaine I'd say if he fought qui gon, qui Gons physical abilities could not handle savage in terms of strength and maybe speed, though probably not by much, in terms of Lightsaber skills I'd have to give it to savage, I can't really see qui Gons style of Ataru working well as holding his own against savage would wear him out rather quick and savage would finish him off, in terms of force abilities.....that I can't say as both in terms of combat seem about the same, still, with a fight between the two I could see qui gon trying to hold his own for awhile, but he'd start to weaken with each hit and savage would continue to power through and finish qui gon off. That's at least how I see it, I get a feeling others would say something different.
Yeah... This was never even a contest. Still a fairly interesting video, though. (BTW, suggestion at the bottom) Honestly, from what I've seen of Karkko, any fight on neutral ground with him involved seems to come down to one question: can his opponent dispel his illusions? If no, he wins, if yes, they win. He's basically a more versatile but less powerful Darth Zannah in that regard. Personally, if I were going to compare a Sith warrior against an Inquisitor, I'd have put Savage against someone like Teneb Kel as I think it holds to jensaraii1's comment on Lucien Draay vs Rahm Kota as, while it doesn't get the blood pumping, it's at least a good matchup, at least, so far as I can see. Hell, if you wanted to keep Karkko in, you could've matched him up against someone like Warb Null or Kas'im. Another potential Idea could have been Darth Wyyrlok (III) vs someone like Darth Malgus. Personally though, I'm not much of a fan of the "inquisitor vs warrior" or "consular vs guardian" debate as I view both approaches as equally viable if given a combative focus, with the victor coming down to how advanced the prospective fighters are. One idea for another match with Karkko, though one that doesn't fall into the archetype; Volfe Karkko vs Tholme. Tholme is flexible and slippery, so it'd be very interesting to see how those two would match up (it's not even that unreasonable to imagine; Tholme confronts and fights Karkko ahead of Vos and everything else simply follows the original comic)
I know this isn't related to the video, but do any of you guys think THE FORCE AWAKENS lightsaber duels will look anything like they were in the KOTOR trailers. I'd love to know what everyone thinks. Thanks
I feel like he would have been a better fighter without the exposure to dark magicks. As he has more calculating and sophisticated before that point. He also wouldn't have fallen to the dark side if he wasn't corrupted by the magicks either.
while i agree on the outcome i feel people don't give savage enough credit i see multiple times where he's shown to be a force to be reconned with his armor when the droids were blasting him after the battle with dooku and ventress took several blaster shots he's shown to be able to redirect and block incoming blaster bolts and he even nearly bested plokoon by aiming for his actual weakness the mask that he wears not to mention while it wasn't long he did last a short time against sidious before being struck down im not saying he's the warrior with a plan im just saying he's shown not to be a buldozer of destruction
Here's a request! Ajaj (I think that's how you spell the first name) Ventress vs Darth Maul I would have preferred Grievous in Maul's place but that already happened in Clone Wars series.
Would it be possible to see darth revan vs one of the clone wars sith (Dooku would be good I think). Either way I really like this series, it adds a excellent perceptive to the canon
Why the lord of the rings song at the end I don't know XD but.... I'd love to see Oppo Rancisis vs. Ki-Adi Mundi or maybe Luke vs. Anakin (in his prime)
Love yeh descriptions and break downs... But in my opinion you never really chose people that are on equal level of skills. Its always clear who would win waaay before the end of the video..
I guess its safe to say that Opress's fighting style was more or less a combination of the Djem So branch of Form V since it focused on power attacks, and Juyo due to his ferocity
+mets2128 Low level Juyo to be sure but likely considering Maul was his instructor for a time and he was a high level master of Juyo along with numerous other forms.
I can thing of someone who flat out can't stand Vitiate as a character, so your implication that he's a rip off of Volfe Karkko would probably bring a smile to his face.
IMO Volfe Karkko has like 90% chances to win, but if Savage Opress survives long enough to enter a berserk he wins after a short contest of Karkko's panical defense. The thing is that Opress would most probably die before getting enough pumped up. After all if berserker would be so weak they wouldn't still be a part of some zabrak culture.
"The entire Jedi council took it upon themselves to hunt down the renegade *Dark Magician*"… Great, now I have to watch Yu-Gi-Oh again. Thanks Evan.
Omg I never realized that. That's hilarious.
I've always viewed Savage Opress as an "in-training student" practitioner of Form V: Djem So, given his overwhelming kinetic strikes and overpowering physical strength. With less than a year of training with the lightsaber, he was actually quite good against expert/master level lightsaber duellists who had YEARS of training to fall back on.
Thank You All So Much for Over 70,000 Subs. I couldn't have gotten this far without your support! I Love You ALL. :)
Also, Since the Palpatine Video Many of you guys have asked me questions regarding the Tier system we mentioned, so here's a larger version to for you guys to enjoy.
Clone Wars Era
This list Encompasses Overall Combative Viability. So, Saber Skills, Power and Skill in the Force, and Tactical Viability.
Tier 1: Yoda, Mace Windu, Darth Sidious.
Tier 1.5: Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus.
Tier 2: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Plo Koon, Shaak Ti, Anakin Skywalker.
(Anakin kinda flops in-between Tier 2 and 3 due to his tactics and his lack of inclination with the Force)
Tier 3: Kit Fisto, Darth Maul, Ki-Adi Mundi, Depa Billaba, Saesee Tinn, Agen Kolar, Eeth Koth, Qui-Gon Jinn, Oppo Rancisis.
Tier 4: Luminara Unduli, Rahm Kota, Quinlan Vos, Tholme.
Hopefully this helps answer some of your guy’s questions on who is placed where. (In my opinion)
Hey congrats on those subs man keep up the awesome work love the vs series
You spelled Undulli wrong
I mean Unduli
+EvanNova95 I wish to see Darth Bane vs Lord Kaan just to see if Bane truly earned the mantle of dark lord afterall.
+EvanNova95 This was a fantastic video! I have a question for you though; do you think that Emperor Sidious taught Darth Vader the ancient class system (if not the whole system, at least the inquisitor class) and had him re-make the Sith Inquisitor class? Because everything you said about the Sith Inquisitor class fits the Imperial Inquisitors we see in Star Wars: Rebels.
Woah woah woah...did you just say my homeboy, Saesee, would be beaten by Savage? Great vid, though it was a bit too obvious.
Great Video. Man this video shows exactly why Savage is such a disappointing character. When I first saw him in the episode "Monster" I was like "Wow this guy is very interesting and has some tragedy in his back story I can't wait to see where they take his character!" *sees the rest of the episodes he's in "Oh....." I think it would be cool if the kinder and more moderate Savage Opress teamed up with Maul, who he wouldn't have seen in years. He could have a strong unwavering loyalty to his brother and desire to protect him as he was forced to kill his other brother and Maul is all he has left. He could have questioned Maul's more ruthless tactics against innocents as he cared for people who were too weak to survive. He would have been conflicted between loyalty and morality. Then he could sacrifice himself for Maul against Sidious and in his death he would have shown Maul that there is something worth fighting for beyond blind revenge. Sorry for the long rambly comment. Keep up the good work and congrats on 70,000 subscribers you deserve it! :)
+Umesh Narayan Amen to to that.
Thank you for responding! Who wins in a battle by the way Coleman Trebor vs Jar Jar Binks?
+Umesh Narayan I agree with nearly everything though I think that rather then succumbing to the weakness of compassion ( In Maul's own words ) Maul would have simply tossed aside his brother's corpse realizing his weakness and continued on his path stronger for having reaffirmed his devotion to the Dark Side. Maul is not a character that would work well if a redemption arc was forced on him.
I don't think that Maul would be redeemed by that. He would have just realized that his relentless quest for revenge blinded him to what was really important. His family. He would not have redeemed if anything he would have become more angry. Despite everything Maul still cared about his brother he just never let him knew that.
Umesh Narayan Maul was psychologically tortured as a child so his ability to form attachments was majorly hampered. It's possible though.
Once again I feel like these videos are turning into rants/burials of one of the characters involved in which the conclusion is obvious from the onset. Once again I find myself just skipping through the video (something I hardly ever do) just to get to parts where you make the points I pretty much thought you would. In all honestly, your video are becoming tedious and besides the point in my opinion. I'm not at all saying this be mean or just to be an ass, but to give some constructive criticism as I know you can and have done better.
+Psychonis If you're going to underrate one character at least pit characters you think are relatively around the same level against eachother.
@Kenneth Diamondheart So?
Psychonis personally I think savage is either underrated or overrated there is no middle ground
@@devontaelafleur3841 well said
KOMARI VOSA vs ASAJJ VENTRESS, Dooku's failed apprentices. Maybe even a battle royal with each having some back up from the Bando Gora and Night sisters.
No Vosa is outmatched. Do her and Maris Brood then u have something
Called it Opress never wins.
+thatmetalhead9000 Not when its Evan's video. xD
+William Henning Not just me. ua-cam.com/video/nqkr2gAcOxA/v-deo.html
EvanNova95 *Sigh* You're really going to make me watch a 17:00 minute video to give you an accurate response? Fine.
2 years late, but I feel it's a little unfair to use Jensaarai to prove a point. He HATES TCW from what I've gathered. While that doesn't mean he's biased, it doesn't make him a good alibi against Savage.
Still, Oppress doesn't get enough credit. I think Antoine Bandele gave the best analysis of him. Self taught, gifted, strong, and smarter than many assume, but not the absolute best. Opponents like Karkko, Komari Vosa, theGrand Inquisitor and clearly several jedi masters (including a few notable ones) are on his level, but I would say overall, he's in the upper parts of that tier (even if he wouldn't beat Karkko specifically, I bet he could beat some guys Karkko couldn't). I would say the absolute height of his power would be around Kit Fisto's, but that's as far as I'd dare to go regarding his power.
True, the VS community in star wars don't seem to like savage
Its not really surprising Opress isnt that much of a force user as he didn't have consistant training with it over the short time he had trying to learn it, compared to everyone one elses years of experience. And with his lightsaber its suprising he does as well as he does considering most of it comes from his Zabrak training pre TCW and most of it becoming useless after the changes that happen to him. He still lasted longer than some of the council members against Sidious which was a surprise
+levitikan Indeed. Evan will say that was because he was toying with Savage but I believe it simply shows the level of skill Savage achieved by that time.
+levitikan Sidious was toying with him and killed him injecting 2 lightsaber into both his Zabrak hearts, with his back turned
Metal Sonic I hold a different view.
He still lasted longer than some of the council members against Sidious which was a surprise
Which because sidious was toying with savage rather than killing him outright? There's context behind the battle if you didn't realize it
Loving your work, keep up the good work might i suggest a tag team match with Yoda & Darth Sidious vs Luke Skywalker & Revan. I would find this interesting as you would have two absolute masters of opposing sides of the force vs two force users who mastered both sides of the force. just thought this might be intriguing. Food for thought :D
At first, I thought Savage would win this; but I soon realized it was unlikely, as he'd be helpless against Volfe's Sith sorcery. While I agree with the verdict, there are a few things you might've forgotten about Savage:
*His ability to hold his own against two skilled opponents at once (Anakin and Obi-Wan).
*The Saber Throw, which he used to behead many of the Black Sun leadership in one swift spin.
*The options provided by his lightsaber; to drive one blade down like a stake and, should that fail, activate the other for defense against a counterattack (i.e. his fight with Sidious). Talk about "fallback options."
*Savage's ambidexterity, which he displayed seconds before his death.
*As he lay dying, Savage laments that he was never like Maul. However, he would've been, had he been given time for more training. It's not that he was a bad Force wielder; like Nuka in _The Lion King II: Simba's Pride_, he just never had a _chance._
That said, nice Versus video. Can't wait for more.
Perhaps Maul would have a better chance against Volfe, thanks to his discipline, cunning, experience, and patience.
+DarthWill3 I was going to comment all about Savage and how he would have won this fight but I find I've been charmed by that Lion King II reference. *Vague smile*
Maul would stomp Volfe.
William Henning Charmed, eh?
"Stomp" is such an overstatement.
DarthWill3 Yep.
Maybe but he would win a solid 7/10 majority imo.
William Henning
That's pretty accurate.
DarthWill3 The only reason I give Volfe a 3/10 is because Maul has not demonstrated the ability to block force lightning though he is doubtless capable of such a feat.
Love the amount of backstory and detail you get into in these videos! Keep up the great work mate!
+JakeUptake I do enjoy the little bios before each battle also. :)
Meetra Surik VS. Darth Maul!!!
+Pizza Jedi Meetra doesn't stand a chance unfortunately.
William Henning she does
Pizza Jedi How?
William Henning well, for starters, she did kill hundreds of sith, including Darth Nihilus, Darth Sion (who was supposed to be invincible), and Darth Traya.
Pizza Jedi Hundreds of Sith? 0-0 Individually or...
Congrats on 70 thousand subs. Love your videos, just wish I had all the time in the world to watch these and analyze them!
Evan please do a three-way duel for the finale. Please...
+ryanbelcher25rb Maybe I will. ;)
+harak salazar HK-47 Vs. IG-88 Vs. SCORPIO, battle of the droids
+Knightikhan what about proxy? From the force unleashed.
+ryanbelcher25rb Darth Vader vs Count Dooku vs Anakin Skywalker/Mace/Maul.
Note: The slashes "/" mean one of those 3 not all 3 of course. :P
***** Maul is slightly below Dooku and Vader when it comes to skill and power but he makes up for it by having superior strength over Dooku, superior mobility over Vader and being an overall better unarmed combatant. Plus the margin of difference between Maul and Vader/Dooku in regards to skill and power is negligible.
You should do Rahm Kota vs. Ki-Adi Mundi. I think a fight between two old masters like them would be a sight to see.
Good video!
Ever think about a Corran Horn VS Darth Maul matchup?
+Josh Davison Corran Horn vs Obi-Wan Kenobi .
+Marcos Acosta I agree, I believe obi Wan might take it but just barely.
+Tyler UwateGaming (Gametix) True. But it wasn't his typical MO.
+Tyler UwateGaming (Gametix) it would definitely not be a stomp Corran Horn was a very good duelist Ending the Uzavong War by dueling the leader. He also is a good force weilder on par with Kenobi he has a stronger force wall.
it took nothing for Dooku to rag doll obi-wan.
you did savage dirty here. Everybody underrates him. He took out 2 jedi without even having alightsaber and dodged several of their attacks so he was infact fast as fuck. he ate like 10 lightning blasts from dooku and was always fine in 5 seconds. with less than a year of training from maul he went toe to toe with several council members and killed the female jedi 1v1. his raw force power was STUPID strong, he penetrated the force shields of BOTH dooku AND asajj SIMOULTANEOUSLY and almost force choked them out. He clearly still had martial knowledge and could fight with tactical thinking. He took blaster bolts to the chest like it didnt happen... If he had the time for even TWO years of uninterrupted training he could probably solo most jedi whom have trained since they were kids. if he had 10 YEARS to train he would have long surpassed maul in my opinion and could 1v1 most council members. the only reason he died like fodder was because he fought PALPATINE who literally saw him and his brother as enough of a threat to legit go exterminate them HIMSELF no assasins no bounty hunters no NOTHING. STOP DOING SAVAGE DIRTY.
This really didn't need to be 44 minutes. I get you're trying to be indepth but this fight isn't really that deep.
Y'know, I think there's a solution for Savage Opress' weaknesses and make him more of an intriguing fighter for Versus Series: have him wear armour made of material that resists lightsabers (cortosis, phrik or mandalorian armour) or force attacks. The only unique skill in his repertoire is being able to endure and shrug off physical strikes from Jedi masters (which is actually pretty impressive when you think about it) and because he's so big and immobile the armour wouldn't be much of a hindrance and due to the majority of the Jedi in the Clone Wars era being more specialised towards speed, acrobatics and blaster deflection and less on physical strength, it'd be ideal for Savage to be equipped with gear that allows him to endure strikes from lightsabers, shrug it off and strike while their caught off-guard and within the reach of his weapon and overpower them when they try to defend. He'd still be a sitting duck for force attacks and opponents who can anticipate his attacks (either through familiarity or enhanced-reactions) and are fast enough to dodge his swings but if the writing team of TCW added armour to arsenal he'd at least have some reasonable chance to survive against top-tier opponents and might still have an arm.
+Saiyef96 That would make him OP. Also his speed would not decrease with orbalisk armor by increasing his raw force power it would only increase his physicals. In essence it would make him uber Savage. Even less precise and more sloppy along with being more powerful both physically and in the force.
why not do komari vosa vs assaj ventress
+UK Prepper 17 in it He's not a big fan of ventress, finds her boring so its unlikely we'll see a versus with her from evan.
Vosa vs Brood would be better. Ventress would dominate Vosa
I agree with your conclusions. With Opress losing to both Maul & Kenobi. He just doesn't have the tools to take on the upper tier warriors. Great Vid!
I just love how Evan still continues to slam vitiate. ever since the release of knights of the fallen empire we've seen that vitiate/valkorion is WAY more skilled then Evan dares to acknowledge. valkorian can one shot powerful Sith lords with like no effort and he can block lightsaber strikes with his hand with just as easily. and those are only a few demonstrations of vitiate/valkorion powers. if you include the Times your character chooses to use valkorion's powers you get a real sense of just how screwed someone like sidious would be in a fight against the true emperor. so yea Evan quit bashing vitiate because it kinda makes you look like a ass :)
I agree that he should reassess Vitiate but you being rather unkind
+matthias alice Well Evan can be frustrating with his uncompromising bias...
Valkorion still doesn't possess the feats to defeat Sidious.
Azronger knights of the fallen empire is far from over so don't worry by the time it is you'll have your feats
Has Darth sidious ever one shot someone as powerful as Darth marr this is a serious question
0:21 "Dark Lort!" ?????? pffffff i'm sorry i had to make a joke or laff at that
This was so disrespectful to Savage:
www.comicvine.com/profile/beniboybling/blog/savage-opress-respect-thread/106015/
Had to re-read this to wash out my brain from this video.
+John Smith Seriously?
+EvanNova95 It's ironic that Savage oppress is the exact opposite of Darth Tyranus in terms of dueling.
Another excellent video Evannova95!! I learn so much from you and the rest of the Council. The Force is strong with you all, lol!!
'Oh wow Volfe won. What a twist. Who could have predicted?' Oh yeah, everyone.
an interesting setup and I can see why you did it, warrior versus inquisitor. Are we going to see a typical guardian fight a typical councilor next? Related to that, I fear we may accidentally start putting some squares into circular holes, if we try to put everyone in one of these categories. And to be fair to Savage, I don't think he knew, he could bock lightening with his lightsaber, at one point in his training he asked Dooku "how does one stop such power." and Dooku replied
"Only in time as my apprentice will i show you." *slightly paraphrased* Had another idea for a versus episode too, Maul versus Zhana. I'd say Maul is a better duelist, but the big catalyst would be : could Zhana drive Maul insane? if not she would lose, if so she would win. Basically the episode would be a psychoanalysis of Maul.
Nice video as always. I propose Cad Bane vs. Boba Fett & The Grand Inquisitor vs. Asajj Ventress
+Logan Gran Cappello Antoine Bandele might do Bane vs Fett in a voted video. Bane will face either Boba or Jango. Asajj would pancake the Inquisitor hard. He's nowhere near her level.
Great Video as always Evan, Keep up the good work!May I suggest:Plo Koon vs Qui Gon JinObi-Wan Kenobi vs Jacen Solo(not Caedus because I don't think Kenobi has much of a chance there)Mace Windu vs Darth KraytXanatos vs Flint? I dunno would that workLuke Skywalker vs Exar KunCount Dooku/Darth Tyrannus vs Darth Wyrlock III(I don't know the spelling for that name)
I love the Uruk-Hai music at the end!!!!!
hey dude how about satele shan vs Mara Jade skywalker as a video.oh great work love this video
I would recommend Kyle Katarn vs. Obi Wan Kenobi. I would kill to see this fight!
What is the definition of a genius? Rather (and more importantly) what is the definition of a person who creates oscar worthy video's every time and puts his heart and soul into everyone? Answer: you Evannova95. This video is just pure genius. I loved how you analyzed Savage's abilities and I especially loved how one person outclass the other in one category but the result is the exact opposite in the next category. Really would like to see another match like this sometime (perhaps Mace Windu vs Darth Krayt?). Congratulations on you getting 70,000 Subs. :) P.S. Do you have a magic power that can speed up time? Sorry I'm just that excited for your next video. :) Always will we subscribers support you 100%. Thanks again Evannova95.
Great video and congraz on 70,000 subscribers. It seems like yesterday you uploaded your 300 subscribers :)
Evan, an interesting match up, one that would not have occurred to me. Very good job! Thank-you, Dante.
I was JUST wishing for more Savage videos. Thanks!
Welp, that was predictable (though well made and argued as usual). Though now I'm wondering if a less one-dimensional if still insanely powerful brute like Darth Malgus would be able to take Karkko out.
Also, nice analysis of Shien. It really is a decent jack of all trades form, without falling prey to the weaknesses of "diplomat's" Niman. If I ever were to build a Star Wars RPG/MMO character, my first would be a skill-based Jedi Sentinel or Guardian using a Shien/Makashi hybrid (possibly Jar'kai) with Niman to fill in the gaps.
The outcome was pretty obvious but I really enjoyed your overall analisys, as for suggestions, would you consider feature Darth Marr vs Jerec? or another team versus between Arcann and Vaylin vs Cade Skywalker and Wolf Sazen? just saying. Keep on the good work Evan.
supreme overlord shimrra Vs general grievous
Grand master Luke skywalker vs dark lord Darth Krayt
dont even stop making these vids bro! love em all!!
+andrew guolo Thank You.
The lord of the rings music at the end made my day. lol
This was quite good actually! I knew Volfe would win! I was expecting Volfe to get a massive edge in the force abilities section, although I did expect him to get the physical edge, but not the duelling edge. Savage would definitely be helpless against the force abilities used by someone like Karkko, who wouldn't even have to put in a moderate effort to subdue him.
Great video!
great job. thank you for all your work EvanNova95
Hey EvenNova95 if you don't mind me asking, what editing program do you use for your videos? And what type of mic do you use? I ask because I'm thinking of starting my own Versus series so any help would be great. Also if you have any advice for a beginner that would rule.
Nice video, but I think we saw that result coming. Is it okay to have a more even matchup next time. Jaina Solo Fel vs Mace Windu for example. Or you can have someone less fleshed out. Darth Sion for example (assuming he dies if he loses).
This was a pretty cool one. Its nice to see Savage used and I'm not overly familiar with Karkko so I was able to learn a bit about him. I'm not sure if this has been done but if it hasn't I think Darth Vader vs Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku would be cool.
Hello evannova. I'm a big fan, and I was wondering if I could ask for your help. I'm trying to start my own vs series, and Don't know how I would get anyone to notice them. I understand if you can't, but I would appreciate some advice.
Keep being awesome:)
hey Evan can I ask you something. men and my mates have been talking about how might be the hero's on battlefront 3. we think that Proberly chewbakka is gonna be there. but we do not know who the other once is could you help us alittlebit whit this? btw I love your videos keep up the good work
hey Nova95 here s an i idea i brought up was to make vs video on where exur kun fights darth maul, this should be a really fancy one that s if it not my opinion, oh and yeah i hope you make it & have a nice day.(forgive the red underlines they are spelled correctly.)
I notice a lot of art for Savage's saberstaff has a ridged grip in the center, while others depict it with a row of horizontal rings as a grip. Which is the correct one?
Hey mate. Have you stopped doing weapons and equipment comparison? Just wanted to ask. You c are a true master mate!!keep up everything you do mate!!!
+TheSnowshreader He has which I agree with. It's pretty much pointless when comparing opponents with only a single weapon and that weapon is usually specialized to the form they chose anyways and has its own positives and negatives that are debatable.
Hi Evan. Just want to say keep it up man! You're doing great!
I have a suggestion for a Versus I would like to see: Volfe Karkko vs. Arca Jeth. No lightsabers, just Force powers.
hey man appreciate ur versus vids btu could u upload star wars characters story like the ones u have on darth krayt and freedon nad ?
+SeArCh4DrEaMz Agreed. I love those.
I gots to know...what does the dark sider say in your intro and who is it? I can't understand the last half of the sentence.
Can you do a series where you look at certain things in the Star Wars universe and review them?
Can you redo the Darth Sidious vs Darth Vitiate video? Since we know alot more about Vitiate now cause of TOR.
I'm surprised I remembered you have a video with volfe without looking it up
You know what would be a really interesting battle?, if Kylo Ren really is the new movies version of Jason Solo, him versus Darth Caedus.
Another brilliant video (although the outcome was obvious). Will laugh over the fact that Volfe Carko is really just a Star Wars Count Dracula (more Konami's Castlevania type). It was fun to see a pure Sith Warrior take on a dedicated Sith Inquisitor.
On a different topic if you (Evannova95) wish to read a draft of my New Sith Empire lore bible, please pm or e-mail me. Wish to know your opinion once I complete a first draft.
Ok Evan I got a question for you who is the better character savage oppress or Ventress and I don't mean in a vs kinda thing. Who has a better personality, more engaging and over all fun to watch/read etc.... I await your response
Why was Volfe Karkko never a Banite Sith? It seems he'd be the perfect candidate.
Keep it up this was really great
2 thing
1. Can khem val be used in a versus series?
2. Rahm Kota vs Lord Vindican. I watched Lord Vindican vs Luminara Unduli and seeing you seeing that Luminara is on par with Rahm Kota, now I wonder if Lord Vindican can beat ol' Kota
vitiate was the alias he was using his real name is valkorian and he was the emperor of both the sith empire and the eternal empire of Zakuul
So battle between 2 wizards (Vitiate is a sorcerer and C'Baoth is clearly based off of Dumbledore or Gandalf). But, Vititate takes this. C'Baoth can contend and it wouldn't be a stomp but its still Vititate's win. Way more force power (I rank him just below ROTS Sidious), arguably the greatest master of Sith Sorcery and Alchemy in Galactic History, Force Drain, can fucking teleport (apparently), force blast without an amulet, force suppression (C'Baoth could probably deal with this though), and can use tutaminis to deal with lightning. As a overall combative force wielder, I rank Vititate as the second strongest sith (right behind Sidious).
Here's a random one. How about trying Ahsoka Tano Vs Lord Scourge? Or perhaps Tavion vs Celeste Mourne.
You should make a vs video between a canon inquisitor and a legends inquisitor.
Hey Evan! Just wanted to know if you were going to be doing a versus video including Jedi Master Fay as she is a seriously underrated Jedi for the amount of power she possesses.
+JackTheElf 51 I've considered it, though I haven't settled on anything yet.
great video, how about Jaina Solo vs Satele Shan?
I always saw Savage Opress as someone who would swing his saberstaff (is it actually ever explained where he got it from?) back and forth untill he hits something... or someone.
When are you going to add more stories of Dark Side Lords? Those are really good stories, and very informative. Thanks
I think a Darth Caedus vs Darth Krayt versus video would be nice.
My suggestion for a VS video would be Vader vs Grievous.
I wonder if there's a single Versus Match out there featuring Oppress as the victor...
Cid Alderlaine I'd say if he fought qui gon, qui Gons physical abilities could not handle savage in terms of strength and maybe speed, though probably not by much, in terms of Lightsaber skills I'd have to give it to savage, I can't really see qui Gons style of Ataru working well as holding his own against savage would wear him out rather quick and savage would finish him off, in terms of force abilities.....that I can't say as both in terms of combat seem about the same, still, with a fight between the two I could see qui gon trying to hold his own for awhile, but he'd start to weaken with each hit and savage would continue to power through and finish qui gon off. That's at least how I see it, I get a feeling others would say something different.
Cid Alderlaine Unfortunately yes (not because I dislike Savage but because I wanted his opponent to win) K'kruhk vs Savage Opress
Another great video, keep up the great work....:)
+Mark Fair Thank You.
+Mark Fair Mmmmm...
hey EyanNova could you do a match of bastia shan vs satete shan another jedi family feud
Whats the intro songs called? Its awesome...
Would Volfe even try to kill him, though? I think he would more likely surpress his will and make him into his slave, like he did with Aayla.
You do realize that now you have to do a Team up match with Volffe and Vitiate
way to go bro keep it up love your videos
Yeah... This was never even a contest. Still a fairly interesting video, though. (BTW, suggestion at the bottom)
Honestly, from what I've seen of Karkko, any fight on neutral ground with him involved seems to come down to one question: can his opponent dispel his illusions? If no, he wins, if yes, they win. He's basically a more versatile but less powerful Darth Zannah in that regard.
Personally, if I were going to compare a Sith warrior against an Inquisitor, I'd have put Savage against someone like Teneb Kel as I think it holds to jensaraii1's comment on Lucien Draay vs Rahm Kota as, while it doesn't get the blood pumping, it's at least a good matchup, at least, so far as I can see. Hell, if you wanted to keep Karkko in, you could've matched him up against someone like Warb Null or Kas'im. Another potential Idea could have been Darth Wyyrlok (III) vs someone like Darth Malgus.
Personally though, I'm not much of a fan of the "inquisitor vs warrior" or "consular vs guardian" debate as I view both approaches as equally viable if given a combative focus, with the victor coming down to how advanced the prospective fighters are.
One idea for another match with Karkko, though one that doesn't fall into the archetype; Volfe Karkko vs Tholme. Tholme is flexible and slippery, so it'd be very interesting to see how those two would match up (it's not even that unreasonable to imagine; Tholme confronts and fights Karkko ahead of Vos and everything else simply follows the original comic)
Poor Karkko.
He'll STARVE! x3
+Scorpio Flores lol.
you keep putting a "t" at the end of sith lord. thats funny but great video as always
Yes i have been waiting for a new one this is awsome :D
I know this isn't related to the video, but do any of you guys think THE FORCE AWAKENS lightsaber duels will look anything like they were in the KOTOR trailers. I'd love to know what everyone thinks.
Thanks
I feel like he would have been a better fighter without the exposure to dark magicks. As he has more calculating and sophisticated before that point. He also wouldn't have fallen to the dark side if he wasn't corrupted by the magicks either.
while i agree on the outcome i feel people don't give savage enough credit i see multiple times where he's shown to be a force to be reconned with his armor when the droids were blasting him after the battle with dooku and ventress took several blaster shots he's shown to be able to redirect and block incoming blaster bolts and he even nearly bested plokoon by aiming for his actual weakness the mask that he wears not to mention while it wasn't long he did last a short time against sidious before being struck down im not saying he's the warrior with a plan im just saying he's shown not to be a buldozer of destruction
Really Dooku. Ur going to teach a juggernaut form II. That's like saying Yoda can fight without using the force at all
Here's a request!
Ajaj (I think that's how you spell the first name) Ventress vs Darth Maul
I would have preferred Grievous in Maul's place but that already happened in Clone Wars series.
During Grievouses duel with Ventress Grievous was only saved by his droids and Ventress was't in her prime I would like to see who would win.
+Koby Romigh Good fight though I think I'd give a majority to Maul.
+Peter Wolniewicz Grievous beat both Ventress and Durge handily in the comics and has far superior feats.
Would it be possible to see darth revan vs one of the clone wars sith (Dooku would be good I think). Either way I really like this series, it adds a excellent perceptive to the canon
I need to find that alien species guide.
Why the lord of the rings song at the end I don't know XD but.... I'd love to see Oppo Rancisis vs. Ki-Adi Mundi or maybe Luke vs. Anakin (in his prime)
+hjjminecraft Antoine Bandele has done ROTS Anakin vs ROTJ Luke if that's what you mean. Luke would win if it was his GM version.
Love yeh descriptions and break downs... But in my opinion you never really chose people that are on equal level of skills. Its always clear who would win waaay before the end of the video..
I guess its safe to say that Opress's fighting style was more or less a combination of the Djem So branch of Form V since it focused on power attacks, and Juyo due to his ferocity
+mets2128 Low level Juyo to be sure but likely considering Maul was his instructor for a time and he was a high level master of Juyo along with numerous other forms.
I don't know I mean given his size and his slow movement I would have assumed Djem So
mets2128 Djem So is his main form yes and while it's never specified it's like Maul taught him the basics of Juyo and Soresu.
I can thing of someone who flat out can't stand Vitiate as a character, so your implication that he's a rip off of Volfe Karkko would probably bring a smile to his face.
IMO Volfe Karkko has like 90% chances to win, but if Savage Opress survives long enough to enter a berserk he wins after a short contest of Karkko's panical defense. The thing is that Opress would most probably die before getting enough pumped up. After all if berserker would be so weak they wouldn't still be a part of some zabrak culture.
1. I never saw Savage win in a single video.
2. How do you come up with this stuff?
+TAF Productions Sometimes they are suggested. Other times they just come to me.
+EvanNova95 ok, but can you do a crossover like Wolverine vs Darth Caudes?
nice video. It sucks how Savage had so much raw power but never refined it. Sort of Reinforces what Jensaarai says about him being a wasted character.
Plz do Darth Krayt vs someone on par with him like palpy, Yoda, etc