Hey Covert, I'm Sr. Morte from that long long control battle. It was a good game, but hard to deal with so much card advantage. Especially when you're stealing my counter spells! And hey, not cool making fun of my lack of innstrad cards, I'm a free to play broken dude! lol GG
@@danlewis7707 Thanks mate! I've got a few good cards since the video was recorded. But this was a few days after release, I was figuring it out on the run. This was the first time I saw a few of the cards he was using. Maybe that was part of the reason why the match took so long! lol
@@daniduc Valeu, meu bom! To jogando há pouco mais de um ano (mas eu era jogador ávido das cartas no início dos 2000). A maioria dos meses eu consigo entrar nos top 1200. Mas acho que não consegui terminar nenhuma temporada no top 1000. Mas é isso... passando raiva aqui e ali, mas me divertindo num entretenimento gratuito! Já gastei muito dinheiro do lanche em booster na época da escola! Hahahaha
These are the types of decks that I never want to play or play against. But watching you play them and revel in their power is an absolute joy to watch. Keep up the great work.
I'm with you there, i need a "cool" win con in controll-ish decks that i can search for in my matches. Like doublestike -> ironcrag feat -> crackle with power for lethal. Creature Lands beatdown or boredom concede i don't like. Stealing opponents deck is ok i guess.
@@zaifir8119 this is why I loved the Sultai Titan's Nest deck in last standard. Less cheesy than Ultimatum but still a sick, synergistic top end to go over the top with and close the game
This archetype is designed to make the opponent miserable, so of course they're the worse to play against. Though it's pretty fun to pilot if you hate letting your opponent play Magic
@@eneses93 i realy hated rogue decks and milss so i used their phase alot as Experimental overload grixis with alot of copy spells instants and counters
hi CGB, thank you so much. for your take on "play your opponent's deck" and for this consistent good work that you've been doing for a past year and a half. i think when i'm gonna look back on these covid times your videos will be one of the best things that happened to me. this and buying a house :) i will try your deck gladly. i still suck at control though but i'm learning from the best. best of luck to you
@@a5h1y except I made the deck... most of the time you get shit with Siphon Insight. Like I said there are better decks, seriously regret using my wildcards to build this, should have done more research. It looks cool but plays garbage.
Saw a french duo of content creators play against Siphon Insight. Of the 4 Siphons opponent had played, 3 of them caught an Alrund's Epiphany. The tilt level was sky-high
@@rylandalton1199 yep but still not even remotely close to how good siphon is. You get to keep it exiled until you use it. Red cards almost always get the "until end of your next turn" to use it.
The biggest problem with you find some prisoners is that you spend 1 card and 2 mana to get 1 card from your opponents deck until the end of your next turn and that's just not a great deal
@@olafthemoose9413 I know stealing the card for only one turn isn’t that great, but it does have a second mode. Destroying artefacts, which can come in useful and when there are no artefacts you can still steal one of their top three library cards Overall the steal ability on it isn’t as good as the siphon insight but the second mode does make the card more flexible and can fit in more deck builds than the siphon insight.
I've been seeing a lot of Siphon Insights in the last few days. I did get to Divide by Zero an Epiphany that they stole from me. Which let me Epiphany the next turn into WIN. But that card is pretty tilting when they just sit on your exiled card for like 4 or 5 turns. It just makes you sit there and say "WHAT DID YOU TAKE?!?"
I really enjoy having 5 mana up, Siphon Insight those pesky Izzet Dragon players when they play their dragon and steal a Saw It Coming to counter their own dragon. Nothing like using their own counters to crush their dreams.
@@savagesnadgaming7252 I haven't gotten to play with Siphon insight yet but the ability to counter someone's spell with their own counter spell is extremely enticing. I just got to play the UW control deck today and that deck felt amazing. Can't wait to siphon some people.
@@BosSoxFan15 Worst case its a land drop, best case you take one of their good spells. Another hidden use is messing with their Scry. They use the 2 damage burn spell and Scry 1 to the top. Siphon Insight, take your pick and send other to the bottom. Had Izzet dragons stuck on 4 lands for multiple turns by continually shipping their lands to the bottom or stealing them for my own land drops. Just a neat card
Yeah, I guess those things can happen but my experience both playing with and against Siphon Insight is that is just "meh." Sure, its fun to steal a card from the opponent, but the good plays happen so rarely that I just sit with Siphon Insight in my hand wishing it was something else.
Agree! I loved dimir control (or esper control) decks in last standard featuring Ashiok planeswalker. The effects of exiling and then getting to play those cards was such fun.
Its kind of fun, but its really not that good. Do you really want to put a 4-of in your deck just so you can potentially look at 8 random cards of your opponent's and steal 4? The card is absolutely terrible against aggro, but OK against control-mirror.
I just want you to know that after watching this video, I made a budget version of this nonsense and it took me to mythic rank for the first time ever. Siphon Insight might be my favorite card ever printed. I don't even own a goldspan dragon but MY OPPONENTS TEND TO
Probably like hunt for specimens more than cram session in this deck. That single blocker works wonders against so many decks. Fun Deck als always cgb!
Usually going to net you 4 or less life from blocking. But could be useful against control to bait a removal spell the opponent thinks is an otherwise dead card, then have the way a little more clear for any threats played off Siphon.
@@wotmaniac22 well you only have to block something that’s 3 or bigger to gain at least as much life as cram session gets you. If you gain 1 from the pest and block 5 damage you’re up 6 life instead of only 4
25:30 the auto tapper values trying to get you to have equal access to all colours. e.g If you have three basic plains and one basic island and you cast a spell for two colourless it will tap the plains.
at around 15:30 isnt there a way in Arena to put a pause/ have priority to cast removal spells before opponent goes into attacks and get the treasure from the dragon ?
No king pin? Lol, this is my pet strategy. I'm working on one for modern using redirect, reversal, commandeer, Jace to stack their deck. It's a ton of fun
Simic! Simic is really good right now with so many people trying to play monogreen and gruul mid-range. It is a seriously fun deck with 2 copies of Wrenn added to it. I also added the one dryads revival to fetch milled creatures from Wrenns +1, it also has flashback for 4 mama which makes it couple well with Wrenn too. Please do a simic video again with wrenn!
fun deck! always loved dimir! I made this a little cheaper on the rares by only using one siphon and using 1 consider and 2 curates, and I only crafted 2 meathook massacres and used 2 of the old crippling fears I already had, seems to play very similar.
Love the hard core control list, where the win condition is "your opponent gives up." I've been using the Standard 2022 dimir control list and it still feels very good, though Memory Deluge might make a good replacement for Graven Lore, and Stolen Insight is a neat one. Also, this is just me, but I like having single copy of "Go Blank;" hits the graveyard and really hurts the opponent once they run out of steam and only have a few cards in hand.
First card I added to my Dimir deck. All the disturb and Flash back. Go Blank is a killer. I actually kept a copy in the side board for Reanimation decks, but it's main deck now for sure.
21:33 The answer to "how many spells" is zero... you cast power word kill on the Adversary before the counters hit, there's nowhere for the counters to go, the effect dies.
Note for CGB: You actually *cannot* fizzle a Field of Ruin on a Hall of Storm Giants by activating it. Ward is a triggered ability that happens on target, so if the land is targeted before it becomes a creature and gains Ward, the ward doesn't trigger and the land still dies. You can actually Field of Ruin Hall of Storm Giants pretty aggressively because of that and not have to worry about keeping mana up to Field in response to activation.
@@tears_of_asariel3198 ward says "Whenever this permanent becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls". You target the moment it's still a land, so when it gains ward from the ability to become a creature, it's already targeted. Also hexproof removes the ability for an opponent to target that permanent, while ward still allows that to happen, just at an extra cost.
at 39:00 can somebody explain to me how the skyclave apparition took the portable hole and then the opponent get the token when skyclave dies? shouldn't be CGB who get the token?
I'm going to try out this deck with the following modifications: remove SGR, PWK, add a Devious Cover-up and Shadow's Verdict. Probably going to make more single-spot modifications but those stick out. Also, playstyle wise I think I'd shuffle in the Siphon Insight instead of flashing them back. It must be a bit demoralizing watching your cards come at you.
Hey CGB! With the standard metagame challenge fast approaching (September 24th!), I was wondering if you were going to play a couple of Traditional decks? Thanks for the content!
It appears as though the wording on the card specifically creates an exile state based effect after the spell is cast from the graveyard regardless of whether the spell actually resolves. "You may cast this card from your graveyard for its Flashback cost THEN exile it"
Took this list (replaced duress with check for traps) from bronze to diamond BO1 in like 8hrs of play time. First time I have played the ladder since eldraine and first time I have played a meta where playing your opponents deck is viable and sometimes better than straight up control cards.
Ward only triggers when something is targeted. Giving it Ward in response to being targeted doesn't do anything. So if you Field of Ruin a Hall of the Storm Giants and they activate the Hall in response, that will not cause Ward to trigger.
Deluge is absolutely nuts, they went from draw 4 discard 1 for 8 mana to draw 4 scry 11. Ever since this card came around I've been seeing 4 ofs in play much more often.
Can someone explain why Divide by Zero exiles Memory Deluge if it’s cast from the graveyard? I imagine it has something to do with flashback mechanics but it’s lost on me
702.34 “...Flashback [cost]” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard if the resulting spell is an instant or sorcery spell by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost” and “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.”
I have a deck that is not very effective but it's fun. It's UBR and I use mind flayer, trickster god heist, glasspool mimic, price of loyalty, Sedgemoor Witch and the sac creature draw a card creature and I basically take their creatures, attack them with them, copy them and then sac them. Sometimes i flip pests with their best creatures, etc. It's really fun when it hits.
I think siphon insight is a throwback the picture to interview with a vampire with kristen dunst and the drunk boys she plays a trick on her maker tom cruise to drink the dead blood that seemed warm. Just a thought as I herd CGB talking about it.
@@calebmills1014 I guess that makes sense as the card specifically states step 1: cast, THEN step 2: exile. The card was cast but even though it didn't resolve it still has to be exiled according to the wording.
Do you think Delver will find a fun deck in this standard meta? I've seen enablers like Otherworldly Gaze and Play With Fire, as well as other supporting creatures in Suspicious Stowaway, Smoldering Egg, and potentially Thermo Alchemist. Seems pretty solid.
Is saw it coming better than you find the villains lair? I'm looking at them and thinking long game control shuffling counterspells back in having the option to cast a counterspell too draw/discard is better in the late game than foretell
"Flashback [cost]" means "You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost" and "If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack."[6] From the Magic fandom wiki. When it leaves the stack, it needs to be exiled.
I just read up on it. Exiling the card with flashback happens as part of using flashback. It does not state that you have to be able to successfully resolve the spell.
Also, noticing a lack of use across the board for the new counter dissipate in favor of saw it coming. Is fortelling better than the ability to exile what you counter now that we have flashbacks and disturbed?
nice, I LOVE siphon insight... that's my kind of dimir right there :D edit: in the past, I also loved cards like covetous urge, it's not really competitive, but it is fun!
I played a similar theme but in grixis using Tibalt and the You find some prisoners red instant that does almost the same thing as the new dimir cantrip
24:22 And that's why you play snow lands in every single deck. I feel like wizards should print some creatures with Snowwalk just so snow lands aren't strictly better all the time.
Also the funniest part is he had a snow basic and a snow dual from his opponent already. When he flashed back the siphon he could have picked up the mountain and had 3 snow lands. 😂
Is there a way to create an infinite loop with the new Tifari and lithoform engine? I feel like there is a combo there some where. The main problem is that there aren't that many great tapable artifacts in standard atm. I guess the one that costs 3 that gives you mana would be ok. Strixhaven stadium also. That's it though.
I don't think there is. You spend 2 mana for each copy of Teferi's ability, which you'll have to use to untap the Engine and do it again. If you use a mana dork in adition, then maybe you can infinitely untap the Engine, but that won't do anything else because it won't generate extra mana or give you any other benefit.
@@AzafTazarden yea you're right. Wish we had more in the way of wincon artifacts or some more powerful artifacts. Loving inistrad but it's more of a creature heavy set with some good spells for the wizards. got a feeling the next one won't have many artifacts either. I'm guessing the one after will though as it's steam punk!
Hey Covert, I'm Sr. Morte from that long long control battle. It was a good game, but hard to deal with so much card advantage. Especially when you're stealing my counter spells!
And hey, not cool making fun of my lack of innstrad cards, I'm a free to play broken dude! lol
GG
Good game, well fought. Craft Memory Deluge soonest tho. Card is busted.
@@danlewis7707 Thanks mate! I've got a few good cards since the video was recorded. But this was a few days after release, I was figuring it out on the run. This was the first time I saw a few of the cards he was using. Maybe that was part of the reason why the match took so long! lol
It was a good game and fun to watch!
@@daniduc Valeu, meu bom! To jogando há pouco mais de um ano (mas eu era jogador ávido das cartas no início dos 2000).
A maioria dos meses eu consigo entrar nos top 1200. Mas acho que não consegui terminar nenhuma temporada no top 1000.
Mas é isso... passando raiva aqui e ali, mas me divertindo num entretenimento gratuito! Já gastei muito dinheiro do lanche em booster na época da escola! Hahahaha
You’re a really good player and it was a great battle from both of you.
"With one blue open they can't counter anything"
Feels so good to be able to say that now.
Except for party decks with one mana negate
Ban counters
Vadrik decks tho
@@timwillemsen4333 Ban win cons
@@timwillemsen4333 Ban Discard
These are the types of decks that I never want to play or play against. But watching you play them and revel in their power is an absolute joy to watch. Keep up the great work.
Oh Garrett they feel so good tho... evil control is the best once you can pilot it
Great last name too
I'm with you there, i need a "cool" win con in controll-ish decks that i can search for in my matches. Like doublestike -> ironcrag feat -> crackle with power for lethal. Creature Lands beatdown or boredom concede i don't like. Stealing opponents deck is ok i guess.
@@zaifir8119 this is why I loved the Sultai Titan's Nest deck in last standard. Less cheesy than Ultimatum but still a sick, synergistic top end to go over the top with and close the game
This archetype is designed to make the opponent miserable, so of course they're the worse to play against. Though it's pretty fun to pilot if you hate letting your opponent play Magic
Blue vs Blue is like - "If I play this now, he'll counter it. So I'll do nothing and pass the turn."
Opponent's end step is actually your main phase
Yea so much fun, counters are amazing. Realy fun
@@timwillemsen4333 It can be. It's like playing a strategy game. More skill involved than playing Aggro.
@@eneses93 i realy hated rogue decks and milss so i used their phase alot as Experimental overload grixis with alot of copy spells instants and counters
Hot take: all spells >=4 mana should be un-counterable.
This is the most decks we’ve seen CGB play in a single video!
hi CGB,
thank you so much. for your take on "play your opponent's deck" and for this consistent good work that you've been doing for a past year and a half. i think when i'm gonna look back on these covid times your videos will be one of the best things that happened to me. this and buying a house :)
i will try your deck gladly. i still suck at control though but i'm learning from the best.
best of luck to you
There are better control decks, don't get this one, there's a reason he only showed 4 games
@@jasongroenow7942 it is not about control, it is about playing opponent's cards :) eeeeevil
@@a5h1y except I made the deck... most of the time you get shit with Siphon Insight. Like I said there are better decks, seriously regret using my wildcards to build this, should have done more research. It looks cool but plays garbage.
Congrats on the new house, king
Saw a french duo of content creators play against Siphon Insight. Of the 4 Siphons opponent had played, 3 of them caught an Alrund's Epiphany. The tilt level was sky-high
Being able to play lands from that siphon is so clutch. It's like the robber of the rich effect ppl wished for.
You find some prisoners (1 and a red) can have a similar effect
@@rylandalton1199 yep but still not even remotely close to how good siphon is. You get to keep it exiled until you use it. Red cards almost always get the "until end of your next turn" to use it.
The biggest problem with you find some prisoners is that you spend 1 card and 2 mana to get 1 card from your opponents deck until the end of your next turn and that's just not a great deal
@@olafthemoose9413 I know stealing the card for only one turn isn’t that great, but it does have a second mode. Destroying artefacts, which can come in useful and when there are no artefacts you can still steal one of their top three library cards
Overall the steal ability on it isn’t as good as the siphon insight but the second mode does make the card more flexible and can fit in more deck builds than the siphon insight.
@@rylandalton1199 I guess if you want artefact removal than it's a playable card
From one Michigan based MTG fan to another, thank you for the daily content and for being so amazing. You're cool too
Imagine running into him in the store.....and how awesome it would be when he just gave you a snarky look and walked away classic CGB style.
this deck is amazing! that last game had me on the edge of my seat, kudos to the opponent for enduring it
I've been seeing a lot of Siphon Insights in the last few days. I did get to Divide by Zero an Epiphany that they stole from me. Which let me Epiphany the next turn into WIN. But that card is pretty tilting when they just sit on your exiled card for like 4 or 5 turns. It just makes you sit there and say "WHAT DID YOU TAKE?!?"
I really enjoy having 5 mana up, Siphon Insight those pesky Izzet Dragon players when they play their dragon and steal a Saw It Coming to counter their own dragon. Nothing like using their own counters to crush their dreams.
@@savagesnadgaming7252 I haven't gotten to play with Siphon insight yet but the ability to counter someone's spell with their own counter spell is extremely enticing. I just got to play the UW control deck today and that deck felt amazing. Can't wait to siphon some people.
@@BosSoxFan15 Worst case its a land drop, best case you take one of their good spells. Another hidden use is messing with their Scry. They use the 2 damage burn spell and Scry 1 to the top. Siphon Insight, take your pick and send other to the bottom. Had Izzet dragons stuck on 4 lands for multiple turns by continually shipping their lands to the bottom or stealing them for my own land drops. Just a neat card
Yeah, I guess those things can happen but my experience both playing with and against Siphon Insight is that is just "meh." Sure, its fun to steal a card from the opponent, but the good plays happen so rarely that I just sit with Siphon Insight in my hand wishing it was something else.
This deck is so strong. Siphon Insight is an amazing magical card. Every time I draw it my reaction is "Thank you opp in advance for the two cards"
As a Dimir fanboy, I absolutely love this deck.
I really love playing with my opponents deck, siphon is such a cool card!
Saaame. This card was made for me
And that's why I run multiple test of talents
Agree! I loved dimir control (or esper control) decks in last standard featuring Ashiok planeswalker. The effects of exiling and then getting to play those cards was such fun.
Its kind of fun, but its really not that good. Do you really want to put a 4-of in your deck just so you can potentially look at 8 random cards of your opponent's and steal 4?
The card is absolutely terrible against aggro, but OK against control-mirror.
@@joshuaphillips1081 i never said good, I just said it was a card that fits my play style
I just want you to know that after watching this video, I made a budget version of this nonsense and it took me to mythic rank for the first time ever. Siphon Insight might be my favorite card ever printed. I don't even own a goldspan dragon but MY OPPONENTS TEND TO
Im new to MTGA and im looking for good budget decks.. can you share your list?
Love dimir, love this video. Your commentary is getting better and better. Thank you
Probably like hunt for specimens more than cram session in this deck.
That single blocker works wonders against so many decks.
Fun Deck als always cgb!
Usually going to net you 4 or less life from blocking. But could be useful against control to bait a removal spell the opponent thinks is an otherwise dead card, then have the way a little more clear for any threats played off Siphon.
@@wotmaniac22 well you only have to block something that’s 3 or bigger to gain at least as much life as cram session gets you. If you gain 1 from the pest and block 5 damage you’re up 6 life instead of only 4
"Taking your opponents win con and beating them to death with it is hard to replace"
This guy gets it.
"YOU'RE SO GREEDY!", said Spiderman pointing at Spiderman.
This was the best control vs control vid so far.
25:30 the auto tapper values trying to get you to have equal access to all colours. e.g If you have three basic plains and one basic island and you cast a spell for two colourless it will tap the plains.
Love these long grindy control games!
at around 15:30 isnt there a way in Arena to put a pause/ have priority to cast removal spells before opponent goes into attacks and get the treasure from the dragon ?
I gotta be honest "patience is my wincon" are my favourite videos you make so I'm happy devious cover-up is back in standard.
Pronunciation police! /ˈdelyo͞o(d)ZH/ Great video, as always :D
No king pin? Lol, this is my pet strategy. I'm working on one for modern using redirect, reversal, commandeer, Jace to stack their deck. It's a ton of fun
Nice deck, and thank you for the analysis of what wildcards are worth the spend.
Simic! Simic is really good right now with so many people trying to play monogreen and gruul mid-range. It is a seriously fun deck with 2 copies of Wrenn added to it. I also added the one dryads revival to fetch milled creatures from Wrenns +1, it also has flashback for 4 mama which makes it couple well with Wrenn too. Please do a simic video again with wrenn!
fun deck! always loved dimir! I made this a little cheaper on the rares by only using one siphon and using 1 consider and 2 curates, and I only crafted 2 meathook massacres and used 2 of the old crippling fears I already had, seems to play very similar.
Seeing your devious smile whenever you play siphon insight….tbh if you played that card in every deck you make it would make me a happy viewer
Love the hard core control list, where the win condition is "your opponent gives up." I've been using the Standard 2022 dimir control list and it still feels very good, though Memory Deluge might make a good replacement for Graven Lore, and Stolen Insight is a neat one.
Also, this is just me, but I like having single copy of "Go Blank;" hits the graveyard and really hurts the opponent once they run out of steam and only have a few cards in hand.
Go blank is underrated for sure
First card I added to my Dimir deck. All the disturb and Flash back. Go Blank is a killer. I actually kept a copy in the side board for Reanimation decks, but it's main deck now for sure.
Very interesting deck, I would hate to play against it but loved watching you play it. Thanks CGB :)
Divide by zero-ing a flashback card is going to catch like 95% of people off guard.
this is pretty amazing, thanks CBG
Cool deck and the opponent will throw you in the abyss so evilish this deck is. Pure fun.
I thought it was bad idea to use one copy of duress and one test of talents, but eventually realized really good. You have a talents!
21:33 The answer to "how many spells" is zero... you cast power word kill on the Adversary before the counters hit, there's nowhere for the counters to go, the effect dies.
Brutal last game of control vs control :D
very enjoyable content imo.
Ran into this list 3 games in a row and I thought... wait let me see what cgb posted today... thanks brother! Hahaha ☠☠☠
I ran into his Izzet treasures build today. I hated it, more cos I had dragon's fire to stop it but decided to use the mana instead.
Why did the deluge, which has been divided by zero, get exiled (25:39)?
Note for CGB: You actually *cannot* fizzle a Field of Ruin on a Hall of Storm Giants by activating it. Ward is a triggered ability that happens on target, so if the land is targeted before it becomes a creature and gains Ward, the ward doesn't trigger and the land still dies. You can actually Field of Ruin Hall of Storm Giants pretty aggressively because of that and not have to worry about keeping mana up to Field in response to activation.
1:12:00 "So the opponent can activate it again, but I can pay the 3" you don't have to, it's already targeted, so the ward doesn't trigger
@@tears_of_asariel3198 ward says "Whenever this permanent becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls". You target the moment it's still a land, so when it gains ward from the ability to become a creature, it's already targeted.
Also hexproof removes the ability for an opponent to target that permanent, while ward still allows that to happen, just at an extra cost.
cgb: This is a family show. also cgb: luminarc asspirate
What a sequence with that Goldspan counter/removal war
Love this evvvvvvviiiilllll deck CGB!!! You made my boomer day!
at 39:00 can somebody explain to me how the skyclave apparition took the portable hole and then the opponent get the token when skyclave dies? shouldn't be CGB who get the token?
I'm going to try out this deck with the following modifications: remove SGR, PWK, add a Devious Cover-up and Shadow's Verdict. Probably going to make more single-spot modifications but those stick out. Also, playstyle wise I think I'd shuffle in the Siphon Insight instead of flashing them back. It must be a bit demoralizing watching your cards come at you.
These control mirror matches were so crazy. The new cards look fun
Can you explain what happened at 25:49 pls ? I don’t get why that was exiled.
Hey CGB! With the standard metagame challenge fast approaching (September 24th!), I was wondering if you were going to play a couple of Traditional decks?
Thanks for the content!
Why did the memory deluge exile instead of bouncing to hand? Can anyone explain?
Yeah I don't get that one either....
It appears as though the wording on the card specifically creates an exile state based effect after the spell is cast from the graveyard regardless of whether the spell actually resolves.
"You may cast this card from your graveyard for its Flashback cost THEN exile it"
@@clagen86 it's simpler than that, it simply exiles the card after leaving the stack, it doesn't matter what you do to the spell on the stack
@@johnlowe1255 okay, that totally makes sense.
whats the best deck right now?
This is pure evil with the win condition - driving your opponent mad.
Memory Deluge was printed and the gas never stopped for any control mage anymore. Could watch this for hours ;)
That's so cool that you played him. I have always wanted to see how bad I would lose to Covert.
Took this list (replaced duress with check for traps) from bronze to diamond BO1 in like 8hrs of play time. First time I have played the ladder since eldraine and first time I have played a meta where playing your opponents deck is viable and sometimes better than straight up control cards.
Been waiting for this one!
I like siphon insight it’s basically a thief of sanity trigger on a two mana Instant with flashback…
This was a great video. Fun stuff.
sweet sweet deck ! syphon insight is very strong
Loving the control mirror!!!
Why did that memory deluge exile instead of going to it's owners hand? (25:40)
a flashbacked spell will always get exiled no matter what you do when it leaves the stack (resolved or unsolved, it still was flashbacked)
@@jt4319 Ah yes, that makes sense, thanks for the clarification.
Ward only triggers when something is targeted. Giving it Ward in response to being targeted doesn't do anything. So if you Field of Ruin a Hall of the Storm Giants and they activate the Hall in response, that will not cause Ward to trigger.
Looking at your video that white aggro you got is similar as HGGs deck that he posted yesterday
I feel like the steal there thing card is fantastic with memory lapse and good ole bounce in historic
Just like playing a sideboard with robber back then, play snowlands in this deck. So you can steal a haven with Siphon Insight. Fun deck!
Loved watching the last guy get absolutely blasted, and I could feel he thought very highly of himself as a player.
I would love one Xanathar in this just for the theme
Deluge is absolutely nuts, they went from draw 4 discard 1 for 8 mana to draw 4 scry 11. Ever since this card came around I've been seeing 4 ofs in play much more often.
I love this deck. I have watched this video twice.
Is this a good deck to play xanithar in? I love that card so much, but I can't find a good deck for him.
CKC! Wow those were some true control games!
Can someone explain why Divide by Zero exiles Memory Deluge if it’s cast from the graveyard? I imagine it has something to do with flashback mechanics but it’s lost on me
Flashback exiles the card as a casting cost, and you can't return an exiled card to hand that way.
Thank you!
Goodness that first game was SO fun to watch
I don't undersatnd why when you "divide by zero" a flashback card it doesn't goes to the opponent hand. What is the rule for this ?
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“...Flashback [cost]” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard if the resulting spell is an instant or sorcery spell by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost” and “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.”
@@thatgrimdude1453 Thx bro, perfectly clear now
So can someone explain why Divide by Zero sends Memory Deluge to exile rather than back to hand?
I'd also like to know!
I have a deck that is not very effective but it's fun. It's UBR and I use mind flayer, trickster god heist, glasspool mimic, price of loyalty, Sedgemoor Witch and the sac creature draw a card creature and I basically take their creatures, attack them with them, copy them and then sac them. Sometimes i flip pests with their best creatures, etc. It's really fun when it hits.
So this is why I've seen so many people playing this deck. I finally lost to it for the first time, and it did feel bad.
Sonio played something similar earlier this week. UB control looks pretty good now
I think siphon insight is a throwback the picture to interview with a vampire with kristen dunst and the drunk boys she plays a trick on her maker tom cruise to drink the dead blood that seemed warm. Just a thought as I herd CGB talking about it.
siphon insight is actually a great spell to play as a response to the opponent scrying
Why did Divide by Zero send that flashbacked Deluge to exile? Does a flashback spell not have an owner?
I think it's the "(You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)" portion of the flashback clause.
@@calebmills1014 I guess that makes sense as the card specifically states step 1: cast, THEN step 2: exile. The card was cast but even though it didn't resolve it still has to be exiled according to the wording.
@@clagen86 once you cast a card for flashback cost, it gets exiled no matter what happens after it leaves the stack.
Like always Mr. CGB,GREAT VIDEO!
Do you think Delver will find a fun deck in this standard meta? I've seen enablers like Otherworldly Gaze and Play With Fire, as well as other supporting creatures in Suspicious Stowaway, Smoldering Egg, and potentially Thermo Alchemist. Seems pretty solid.
i think esper might work to be honest! gives uw some removal and dimir a solid wrath.
Is saw it coming better than you find the villains lair? I'm looking at them and thinking long game control shuffling counterspells back in having the option to cast a counterspell too draw/discard is better in the late game than foretell
Wait why doesn’t the flashback card go back to hand after divide?
Flashback exiles the card no matter how it leaves the stack. Resolved, countered, returned, it always gets exiled.
"Flashback [cost]" means "You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost" and "If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack."[6]
From the Magic fandom wiki. When it leaves the stack, it needs to be exiled.
I just read up on it. Exiling the card with flashback happens as part of using flashback. It does not state that you have to be able to successfully resolve the spell.
702.34a: ...“If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.”
looked up the actual rules, a flashback spell gets exiled the moment it leaves the stack. Thats just how it is
Also, noticing a lack of use across the board for the new counter dissipate in favor of saw it coming. Is fortelling better than the ability to exile what you counter now that we have flashbacks and disturbed?
I'm much looking forward to for a cgb's delver of secrets deck.
nice, I LOVE siphon insight... that's my kind of dimir right there :D
edit: in the past, I also loved cards like covetous urge, it's not really competitive, but it is fun!
Thief of sanity
Question CGB (unrelated to standard) - but what deck(s)/commander do you recommend using against a Niv Mizzet Parun/the infinite combo(s)?
Note - me and my buddies play 3 way commander
I’m so happy dimir is viable again in ranked. Big creature go smash got played out last set.
Werewolves, Werewolves everywhere... and that red dragon that poops treasure...
I played a similar theme but in grixis using Tibalt and the You find some prisoners red instant that does almost the same thing as the new dimir cantrip
Siphon insight: to even just push their pieces to the bottom of the deck, win.
“I’ll take damage for card advantage” is the most dimir thing ever.
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And that's why you play snow lands in every single deck. I feel like wizards should print some creatures with Snowwalk just so snow lands aren't strictly better all the time.
Also the funniest part is he had a snow basic and a snow dual from his opponent already. When he flashed back the siphon he could have picked up the mountain and had 3 snow lands. 😂
Is there a way to create an infinite loop with the new Tifari and lithoform engine? I feel like there is a combo there some where. The main problem is that there aren't that many great tapable artifacts in standard atm. I guess the one that costs 3 that gives you mana would be ok. Strixhaven stadium also. That's it though.
I don't think there is. You spend 2 mana for each copy of Teferi's ability, which you'll have to use to untap the Engine and do it again. If you use a mana dork in adition, then maybe you can infinitely untap the Engine, but that won't do anything else because it won't generate extra mana or give you any other benefit.
I mean, you can do that if you want to draw the game, I guess lol
@@AzafTazarden yea you're right. Wish we had more in the way of wincon artifacts or some more powerful artifacts. Loving inistrad but it's more of a creature heavy set with some good spells for the wizards. got a feeling the next one won't have many artifacts either. I'm guessing the one after will though as it's steam punk!
Siphon insight looked pretty good as disruption in the control mirror
6:36 to 9:36 for some exhilarating control gameplay
25:42 can someone tell me why it didn't went to his hand?
Flashback exiles the card as it leaves the stack, even if it doesn't resolve.