THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION. 1. Men who are intimated by successful women are men who are beneath those women socially & in status. 2. How come it's only women over 30 years old who always say they intimidate men? I have never heard of women in their 20s say the same thing. 3. Men prefer younger women who they can lead. It's like that's verse that says, train a child in the ways of the lord. So that when they grow up, they won't depart from them. In short, you cant teach an old dog new tricks. 4. What women call "empowerment" is simply having a job & paying all your bills. But you're an adult. These are things you should do for yourself without expecting to be cheered. Because we chose to hustle, we also chose to take the responsibilities that come with it. It's called being an adult. 5. Real empowerment is seen when you can do things you weren't allowed to do. But women have been working for the last 60 years. So how have they not been empowered financially? 6. Modern women place value in being able to sustain themselves. But who was supposed to do that from the beginning? 7. Some of these women were raised by single mothers. How would they know how to build a relationship if they've never seen a functioning one from home? They clearly don't know anything about being a wife or a girlfriend to someone because they never saw their mothers be that. & that's not their fault. But to repeat that cycle is. 7. Women over 30 have generally been through a lot. Being emotional beings, it takes a toll on them. & pair bonding becomes difficult. So they drown themselves in work. 8. I am yet to see a woman say that the man she's attracted to or interested in, is intimidated by her. If he is & you want him, what does that say about your choices in men? Furthermore, women know that the only men who matter are those ones they want or those who are above them in every way, shape or form. 9. I am all for women growing in life. But your innate desire is to have a family of your own. You can be super successful in life, but without that, you're not considered a woman yet. That's just how life is. I mean, you cant be an hopeless romantic & still claim to want career over family. 10. If truly women have evolved to being modern, why should men continue being traditional? & what exactly is a modem woman? Because I haven't seen any woman take a man out on a date, pay his bills, propose to him, build him up, be comfortable with him being a stay at home dad & all. Female empowerment, this modern version of it, is an idea created to deny the woman her real feminine essence. Just the same way neglecting the man is a narrative created to destroy the real essense of a man.
I love your analysis, especially with the cycle and nurturing matters, one can't have unrealistic demands to men because you can provide, I support empowerment but feel the conversation atimes is headed in the wrong direction
Lynn better give this guy a show , budha umeandika, ur real lakini those women in 30 should never waste our time , leave them until they get to the 4 th floor. Hapo ndio wanafungua macho. Otherwise l like the fact that both men and women can talk in this country
The lady with the dreads is making it seem like she is so much aware than other women. Lady, the self awareness comes with time and experience. I like how Lydia is very open with her mistakes and her path to healing.
Surely Lynn was made for TV, she is an effective communicator.she navigates in areas unexpected and turns what seems embarrassing into an idea of interest.
Everyone needs a Lydia in their life! Shes real, honest and uses her own experiences and life lessons not theory. I love that shes also introspective and unlearning, learning and relearning unapologetically
Lydia is raw and candid 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Rose is more of an introvert ❤❤❤ Anifa is a good opposer (for lack of a better word)🎉🎉🎉 The overall thing is, we should be aware and intentional.
Love love love Lydia's willingness to be honest and vulnerable. Anifa speaks from the sunny side of life, and we understand....Rose has such beautiful melanin skin and eyes eish. Lovely group. Host them again please!.... and give Lydia her own show this instant😊
Great conversation. I felt Anifa was attacking every statement Lydia was making. Lydia is a real vibe and spoke what is on the ground. Anifa should listen more and not respond by making reference to other people's experiences. This is not a debate but a conversation
Hanifa is so out of touch with reality 😢, i didn't like how she was attacking Lydia, The things Lyd was saying are so real, it's what is happening in the society & women have changed,some don't want children & marriage & that's okay. Good job Lyd for speaking your truth, keeping your composure and tackling this with maturity and grace❤❤❤
Anifa is trying to be the advocate for the norm. What should happen. Lydia is giving us mambo kwa ground, which I appreciate because my children are at that age.
I honestly hate the way Anifa is sarcastically laughing. Respect Lydia's opinion because to me and many others she's making a lot of sense. Next time she should stile up.
Lydia all the way....she is so real...the show is all about her....until the other ladies can just afford to laugh..i love her courage and her convincing power..❤
I like how Lydia thinks! She may have made some mistakes in her past, but a smart person learns from experiences! Kindly talk of women who want to be child-free, different panel but include Lydia. Thanks
Lydia is amazing....she is showing us her wounds as she shows us her growth ...very relatable! The with dreads comes out lacking conversational skills. She could have communicated her story or experience and people who relate to her could have learnt. Overall good conversation.
It's because I really didn't have a traumatic or bad experience to share... I have exes of course, but most of my relationships ended on a good note, it's either we were not a good match or not aligning... But I don't have the toxic relationship experiences that most people have because like I said,when I dropped the three week relationships I just knew it wouldn't work... And currently I am in a very healthy thriving relationship... So it's not like I didn't want to share my experience, but I don't have a bad relationship experience to share. And I totally understand why people think I am not relatable ... But sometimes I say maybe I am just lucky I don't have a lot of toxic relationships like most people do. But I appreciate the feedback, will make improvements on conversational skills. There's always a first time for everything.
I had a bad day but Lydia cheered me up❤😂. Rose is so composed. Hanifa seems to have something against Lydia and it shouldn't be the case. I felt uncomfortable how she attacks Lydia yet she is expressing reality.
I just love Lydia and her way of viewing things,at 30s it's time to fix the mistakes you made at 20s.having a career as a woman is very important.dont follow what the society is doing,,just do you.
Why must a woman have mistakes that should be corrected in her thirties? this throws a woman off the radder. men settle down in their thirties while a woman starts to correct her mistakes. women should learn how to avoid mistakes that wlil need correction at a point in their life.
She nailed the conversation by sticking to the topic (the woman's perspective) and actually airing out the reality on the ground, perhaps because where she is at in life resonates with the conversation. Not that the reality is perfect, but its the reality anyway....and such is life! We learn as we grow.
Lynn and the Girls, great conversation ❤ I am a born again Christian. I got married at 31 years. I am 53. I agree with Anifa,the Lawyer. one should not move in with anyone, man or woman, before the marriage covenant. Take time to know yourself as Anifa said. Know exactly what you are looking for in a marriage partner. And yes,as the Lydia said, let your prospective partner know what your deal- breakers are , ie ,what you can't stomach, eg infidelity and domestic violence. And for marriage to make sense, the manual is the Bible, coz the manufacturer of something always knows Best how it should work...So God started marriage and He tells us how to relate in that marriage..if both husband and wife obey God, the marriage is sweet. Marriage is a beautiful thing...but it's a journey..between marriage and being single for life, I would recommend marriage, any time ,unless one has a calling from God to be celibate ❤
Lydia has a good head above her shoulders. She is truly in touch with reality...Anifa has text book theory..and thats okay, but life isnt Black and white. There are plenty of grey areas and especially with relationships. Relationships/ Marriages are so personal.. there's no one size fits all. Great conversation.
Love, love, love Lydia ❤. Lynn, thank for bringing this to us. Enjoy listening to the show. The only thing I I would like to see changed is interpreting from the local language to English for from other parts of the the world 🙏
Each lady does offer unique energies✨ Lydia does represent progressive growth and she captures how things are on the ground. She is aware of her past mistakes and has clearly learnt her lessons👌. I feel Anifa is coming off a bit strong because she probably understands herself and achieved 'self-awareness' earlier on and insists on crucial points which people need to hear, I can feel her advocacy energy💪. Rose is so composed and mature, more of a listener and when she talks she gives solid points!💯 I am wondering what is this vocabulary of "real" man or woman?...Anyways, it's great to hear these lovely ladies and looking forward to the men panel!
Getting a good man is our Father's assignment. He matches you for His purpose. When a man knows your Father He will definitely discern who you are. The most beautiful thing l have experienced in this world is when a man knows you are his wife. It doesn't hold much if you are a King's daughter, a super woman or a shy girl he will do anything to have you. Nothing shall intimidate him. Another powerful tool for women over 30 is to work on yourself being the right partner instead of looking for Mr right. Go for therapy, deal with your wounds, strip off your warped ideologies, work on your relationship with God and warm up for a man whom the lord has prepared for you. Stop chasing men & acting desperate. Many miss good opportunities because of unpreparedness, toxicity, unrealistic expectations/standards & wasting time knowingly with users. Being over 30 is actually a strength because you are mature & focused. Dont allow street talk define you- let your purpose speak for you.
God does not choose our spouses for us. He did for Adam and when things went wrong we saw how man blamed God. The Bible says a man shall leave his parents and FIND a wife. Not find “the wife who God prepared for him”.
Anifa is my star ⭐. She's espousing this thing that everyone would prefer sweeping under the carpet, 'THE FOUNDATION'. If the foundational fabric is wrong from the go nothing else matters, it'll all come tumbling down!!
@lynn i agree with these ladies. My hubby is my number one support system. He pushes me to heights i didnt know i can go to. He believes in me in ways i cant even imagine....
I got married at 25yrs now almost mid thirties still here and happy❤❤❤... Marriage is a two way and the two must in a place where they understand how to handle each other.. Communicate better in all aspects of the Union
Hanifa is treating this like a courtroom, and it's not. She should appreciate that people have different opinions and experiences, without trying to counter or object to everything. The other two are very reasonable and pleasant to watch.
I agree. I struggle to take people seriously when they speak in absolutes, and expect their experience of something to be everyone’s. The condescending way she speaks to Lydia is bothering me and I wish the others had intervened more. Life is not black and white. What is ideal is different from what is lived daily. I’m glad Lydia stood her ground.
Allow people to have their lived experiences and stop being self-righteous @ miss advocate. No one knows everything, if we did you all would not be on that couch. We figure it out as we go along and sometimes, we get it right and other times we get it awfully wrong. . . and can even repeat these negative experiences to our detriment. That's just life and how we learn. Be humble!!!
My dear anyone in 30's watching this, please especially women, put in ur mind that in this age u should focus on having a family, success and everything u want musidanganywe
Lydia my girl is saying the truth she has been through alot Lynn host her alone and give her your platform to pour herself out, infact amewahi niachia her house in Nakuru and moved in with a maasai guy only after a month i sent her fare kurudi😂😂😂😂she can attest to this.but am happy to see her grown like this.wish you happiness Lydia.
find what works for you. am in my 30s and have been married for the last 8 years. My husband doesn't expect me to foot any bill, he takes care of literally everything. I think it comes down to your character as a woman, are you comfortable sitting with money in the bank and allowing your partner to pay for everything? He may not necessarily need it but I think it's a good gesture. Good show!
As a woman, let people live the way that works for them. If going 50 50 works then good, if being a house wife where the man is providing 100% then its still fine. As long as there's no disrespect or violence. Kos i believe every marriage or relationship is a manual of its own.
I love how REAL Lydia is. She has real life examples which happen everyday. Somehow and Somewhat her and Anifa are not totally agreeing on some few things. But we move on regardless 🤣 An Empowered Woman Is Strong both In and Out.
On this one I choose peace , the rain started hitting us when we said let's empower the girl child , let's see her rise , what did we do ? When we thought we were doing the most amazing thing we forgot the boychild , we left one big gap that will take years to bridge ....The boy child isn't weak ...The boy child has been forgotten and we need to refocus to remind our men they too can rise up . That is how we can have a balanced peaceful family...note : there's nothing wrong with an empowered woman it's a plus to any man ....but arrogance and disrespect is a problem in majority of set-up... where the boy child is slowly fading away .
There is always a pressure at your 30's when you are not married and no kids, but people tend to pretend that it's ok, but it's not OK, come and ask me, I got married at 35 and I know how it is.
The disconnect of dating in your 30s I feel it comes from having an imbalance. We are trying to heal or rather grow financially, emotionally, mentally, physically, and spiritually. The imbalance comes when we date people who are not at the same level as we are or are not trying to heal themselves in all these spectrums.
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I had my dauhghter at 21 she is now 15 and I am 36, what I have e to say is people have no business dating below the age of 25. And people just need to do what works for them, there is no manual.
Well, I disagree. I got married just after turning 24, and am still thriving years later. I also know several people who married and got married in their early 20s, and are living happily ever after. Please don't stamp your experience on everyone. Marriage isn't so much about age as it is about commitment. Some 20yr olds will readily commit and do the work needed to keep a marriage, while some other 30 and 40yr olds behave like fools: moving about from lover to lover and hurting their partners.
Also, you can't say 'People have no business dating below the age of 25' and then conclude that 'People just need to do what works for them, there is no manual'. That's a contradiction because you just told people that marrying before 25 won't work.
Self awareness is the key... Most people are saying I am out of touch with reality because I depict a perfect picture and appear self righteous. But I just don't have a bad relationship experience to share with people to be honest. However I totally understand why I am so unrelatable
@@anifamango6756 Before I became self aware I used to really let BS slide. Right now I don't play,I realized I matter and even if someone has money or looks desirable but don't relate to me the way I would like to happen I go my way. At times we keep blaming people for our misfortune especially in relationships but we forget that we are the ones that made the decision to ignore the red flags despite seeing them on the first day
@lynn , let me tell you something waah, at 23 i had 3 children, no job with an abusive partner all in the name of family, mind you my sister at that age she had a career , lands, car and renting her own apartment doing good. she eventually got married and very happy. mimi marriage broke and am picking the pieces now at 39 to build my career and finances,, womeeeeeen, grow you the marriage life will come. Someone asked me if my sister and I are from the same mother coz they could tell a big difference..
Great and timely conversation. However it was not necessary for the advocate to attack Lydia, she was speaking her truth, that is her story.. this is the reason some people shy away from sharing their story. I'm a psychologist, It's important to remember and know that we all have different life experiences, don't be so judgmental we all make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, we live and we learn. Now on marriage, i have been married for 18 years, got married in my early twenties, marriage works if the two people in each work as a team, nurture their friendship and commit to stay together no matter the circumstances. Self awareness is very key in this life, but we respect that we all have a different purpose in life, marriage and kids are not what define you as a person
Lydia seems to be the youngest in the bunch so her measure of thinking has crossed eras and therefore it’s different. Should she get married I.e. if she chooses to, that man has to be intelligent, open minded and progressive. I like her personally. And all the ladies by extension. 🙏🏾
As a single man in his 30s ,,,,,am financially well.....but ladies if you dont learn to submit whether you have money or not......... we will die all single
@@a_k3730 how about plant submission and reap love. You seriously are ignorant that men value increases with age. We can get what we want the older we get. So learn submission early on ama you'll be like these women
@@phillipsidhojapap1461if men are the head aka leader, what comes first? A leader leads first then gains followers. You don’t demand people to follow you before you start leading. In fact, people choose their leaders based on the leader leading by example. So asking a woman to submit when you have not shown her love is like asking a school to give you a degree when you have not started class.
Thank you Lynn for bringing these conversations to us. At 60+ I'm learning a lot. Very outspoken 30s and 40s who know what they want and are ready to work towards it. I love how Kenyans are now ready to talk about their stories.. Thank you for giving us a platform to be vulnerable in public. I hope people are learning as I am
Hi Lynn this was a good show. Lydia is so real. I like that she is using and sharing her experience. Very authentic. But uhmmmm Anifa, I felt she was on a high horse judging the others especially Lydia. I felt that instead of drawing on her own life experiences she was too engrossed with judging and borderline condescending to the other guests. The world is already so judgmental to ladies, we need more grace not judgement. I think your show Lynn is about been real and authentic, not judging. Everyones experience in life is valid. No need to tear others down on this show. I dont think thats what the show is about. 1:51:43
Nice conversation!!Loved how Lydia was articulating herself.However,when the Bible talks about men providing,it’s not just only talking about money.Provision is broad.
Thanks for this conversation,at 31 without a kid(s), without marriage i felt so desperate but i thank God for this show, I've learnt alot,,, Lydia all the way,much love for being real
I think people are overreacting with this whole dating/marriage issue. Marriage is all about timing. When the right time comes, both the man and the woman will meet and get married. Marriage is beautiful. Both men and women are beautiful. Let's not tarnish marriage or make it a very complex matter. You can meet with a stranger today, and get married shortly after.
Anifa❤️❤️❤️❤️i love how she thinks....how she answers....how she is so self aware...how she makes you feel you are responsible for your own decisions and actions❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😂😂lovely
I am turning 30 and bby let me tell you, finding a man that can deal with me is getting harder by the day. I guess being older has made me understand myself better and I know exactly what I need in a partner. If marriage doesn't happen for me at the end of the day, I am okay with that because I know that I genuinely tried.
As men age as well they tend to know their worth too so don't expect men above 30 to just entertain the BS that women bring and also they will not approach just anyone that comes their way. They also want refined women according to the qualities they are looking for
@@tafadhalijiheshimu6229 don't worry focus on ur goals,ur career,the right person will come on ur way, don't give urself to desperate men,whom their purpose is to use women ad dump them,I believe we need right person who wll stick with us to the end
Anifa, my primary school mate, neighbor at home and childhood friend, we used to call her Shiru,pass my greetings LN, it's amazing seeing her at your show. The show has really been of great impact. Soar soar high LNS 🔥
Hi LNN team. Much love from Uganda. We love your work👌🏾🎊however this is to request that captions are put on every video where there are some parts that are not in English to enable us understand better.Thank you .
True. Lydia's EQ is on another level. The way she combined humour and maturity to handle Anifa's self-righteous, codescending, and judgemental attitude deserves praise. While Anifa might have said some truth, people need to understand that it's never about what you say, it's how you say it. Knowing the right words to use is a skill. Someone else who's emotionally intelligent would have said the same thing and it would have come out friendly and empathetic instead of sounding like an attack on Lydia.
Mango I loved your point on friendship. In reality friendship is about someone who opens your true self. Someone who connects with you for being you...not because of money or education.
Dig deeper. Help-meet is a very loaded description. The Holy Spirit is a Helper - start from there; provision is not about bills - it is way deeper than that, we have men that can provide food and pay bills but do not qualify to be called husband according to God's definition.
THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION.
1. Men who are intimated by successful women are men who are beneath those women socially & in status.
2. How come it's only women over 30 years old who always say they intimidate men? I have never heard of women in their 20s say the same thing.
3. Men prefer younger women who they can lead. It's like that's verse that says, train a child in the ways of the lord. So that when they grow up, they won't depart from them. In short, you cant teach an old dog new tricks.
4. What women call "empowerment" is simply having a job & paying all your bills. But you're an adult. These are things you should do for yourself without expecting to be cheered. Because we chose to hustle, we also chose to take the responsibilities that come with it. It's called being an adult.
5. Real empowerment is seen when you can do things you weren't allowed to do. But women have been working for the last 60 years. So how have they not been empowered financially?
6. Modern women place value in being able to sustain themselves. But who was supposed to do that from the beginning?
7. Some of these women were raised by single mothers. How would they know how to build a relationship if they've never seen a functioning one from home? They clearly don't know anything about being a wife or a girlfriend to someone because they never saw their mothers be that. & that's not their fault. But to repeat that cycle is.
7. Women over 30 have generally been through a lot. Being emotional beings, it takes a toll on them. & pair bonding becomes difficult. So they drown themselves in work.
8. I am yet to see a woman say that the man she's attracted to or interested in, is intimidated by her. If he is & you want him, what does that say about your choices in men?
Furthermore, women know that the only men who matter are those ones they want or those who are above them in every way, shape or form.
9. I am all for women growing in life. But your innate desire is to have a family of your own. You can be super successful in life, but without that, you're not considered a woman yet. That's just how life is. I mean, you cant be an hopeless romantic & still claim to want career over family.
10. If truly women have evolved to being modern, why should men continue being traditional? & what exactly is a modem woman? Because I haven't seen any woman take a man out on a date, pay his bills, propose to him, build him up, be comfortable with him being a stay at home dad & all.
Female empowerment, this modern version of it, is an idea created to deny the woman her real feminine essence.
Just the same way neglecting the man is a narrative created to destroy the real essense of a man.
I love your analysis, especially with the cycle and nurturing matters, one can't have unrealistic demands to men because you can provide, I support empowerment but feel the conversation atimes is headed in the wrong direction
Lynn better give this guy a show , budha umeandika, ur real lakini those women in 30 should never waste our time , leave them until they get to the 4 th floor. Hapo ndio wanafungua macho. Otherwise l like the fact that both men and women can talk in this country
Chairman no one is willing to have that conversation.
The men they choose are intimidated by them
All in all, the WALL remains undefeated 🌝
There are two point 7s. Good info though
The lady with the dreads is making it seem like she is so much aware than other women. Lady, the self awareness comes with time and experience. I like how Lydia is very open with her mistakes and her path to healing.
Lydia's skin is skinning 🔥.She comes across as very authentic
Very true she is very intelligent 😊.
I was looking for this comment. The skin is glowing.
The first thing i recognise is skin jessseess&the IQ is on another level, enjoying the show 🇿🇦
Surely Lynn was made for TV, she is an effective communicator.she navigates in areas unexpected and turns what seems embarrassing into an idea of interest.
Everyone needs a Lydia in their life! Shes real, honest and uses her own experiences and life lessons not theory. I love that shes also introspective and unlearning, learning and relearning unapologetically
Thank you ❤
I love her too. She is so real
Lydia is just a vibe so real
Birds of the same feather flock together
She is a gem 💎
The lady in yellow blouse is the MVP, she's real and entertaining, you should definitely bring her back.
Lydia is the full vibe! So real and relatable. Great show Lynn, thank you.
Is Lydia the one in a yellow blouse. She's a vibe.
yeah the one in yellow@@patiencempirirwe5449
Lydia is raw and candid 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Rose is more of an introvert ❤❤❤ Anifa is a good opposer (for lack of a better word)🎉🎉🎉
The overall thing is, we should be aware and intentional.
Love love love Lydia's willingness to be honest and vulnerable. Anifa speaks from the sunny side of life, and we understand....Rose has such beautiful melanin skin and eyes eish. Lovely group. Host them again please!.... and give Lydia her own show this instant😊
Yes Lynn give Lydia her own show. Hanifa is wishy washy…..
Lydia is a legend. Hahahaha. I come to represent her all the way from Zimbabwe 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Anifa was my classmate in high school. Trust me she speaks that way.
@@liliansimiyu1123 OMG Lilo... How are you... Been a minute, I hope you are well
. Anifa is my type. The truth. The reality. The doable God's fashion.
Great conversation. I felt Anifa was attacking every statement Lydia was making. Lydia is a real vibe and spoke what is on the ground. Anifa should listen more and not respond by making reference to other people's experiences. This is not a debate but a conversation
Lydia is the gal here❤
So real. Men, this Lydia is the real wife material 🎉
I love Lydia a lot, she is so truthful, humorous and relatable to what’s on the ground.
Hanifa is so out of touch with reality 😢, i didn't like how she was attacking Lydia, The things Lyd was saying are so real, it's what is happening in the society & women have changed,some don't want children & marriage & that's okay. Good job Lyd for speaking your truth, keeping your composure and tackling this with maturity and grace❤❤❤
True, she came out as very condencsending and playing safe to show her best side while Lydia was so authentic.
Today's society normalizes crap
The advocate is countering that but not everyone is ready
Very true
True
Anifa is trying to be the advocate for the norm. What should happen. Lydia is giving us mambo kwa ground, which I appreciate because my children are at that age.
I honestly hate the way Anifa is sarcastically laughing. Respect Lydia's opinion because to me and many others she's making a lot of sense. Next time she should stile up.
Also, Lyn joined in the sarcastic laugh. I hope she sees this and improves. Make all your guest feel important
At 30's you are brilliant and ready to make better financial decisions & not ready to take BS🙂😁👏Bravo Ladies
This is so me
Lydia all the way....she is so real...the show is all about her....until the other ladies can just afford to laugh..i love her courage and her convincing power..❤
Ukweli
The Lady in yellow is so real yes
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I like how Lydia thinks! She may have made some mistakes in her past, but a smart person learns from experiences!
Kindly talk of women who want to be child-free, different panel but include Lydia. Thanks
Lydia is amazing....she is showing us her wounds as she shows us her growth ...very relatable! The with dreads comes out lacking conversational skills. She could have communicated her story or experience and people who relate to her could have learnt.
Overall good conversation.
It's because I really didn't have a traumatic or bad experience to share... I have exes of course, but most of my relationships ended on a good note, it's either we were not a good match or not aligning... But I don't have the toxic relationship experiences that most people have because like I said,when I dropped the three week relationships I just knew it wouldn't work... And currently I am in a very healthy thriving relationship...
So it's not like I didn't want to share my experience, but I don't have a bad relationship experience to share. And I totally understand why people think I am not relatable ... But sometimes I say maybe I am just lucky I don't have a lot of toxic relationships like most people do. But I appreciate the feedback, will make improvements on conversational skills. There's always a first time for everything.
@@anifamango6756 you could have shared that.... that's all am saying. Doesn't have to be bad experience
. I totally relate with you.
Every case is unique
I like your vibes.
The way Lydia threw delulu out the window and laid things down transparently for what they are??? Omg!!! Such a smart and real babe that one!!!
I had a bad day but Lydia cheered me up❤😂. Rose is so composed. Hanifa seems to have something against Lydia and it shouldn't be the case. I felt uncomfortable how she attacks Lydia yet she is expressing reality.
I totally agree with you!
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She is really not understanding that people have different lives. For lydia its just a story of majority of women
@@miriamchepngeno1514 yes. A true picture of what happens in life.
Me too I feel she is just attacking her and trying to be better than her
anifa is just waiting for Lydia to speak ndio auto makosa, the fact that Lydia never get's defensive shows she's self aware and on the right track
Lydia has really made my day. This lady is so real.
I knew her from ticktock she is real
Lynn next Friday, bring a panel of men in the same age bracket tusikie from them as well. Add a pastor there as well..
Coming soon dear🙏🙏
I totally agree.bring them on
Why add a pastor? We have enough catch up at church
Agree please🙏🏾, we need to hear the male version
wacha mambo na pastor, let the discussion flow
Lydia you're so authentic and your vulnerability is so admirable
I just love Lydia and her way of viewing things,at 30s it's time to fix the mistakes you made at 20s.having a career as a woman is very important.dont follow what the society is doing,,just do you.
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Why must a woman have mistakes that should be corrected in her thirties? this throws a woman off the radder. men settle down in their thirties while a woman starts to correct her mistakes. women should learn how to avoid mistakes that wlil need correction at a point in their life.
Lydia is articulating issues as they are on the ground 🎉🎉🎉🎉 awesome story
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LYDIA AND ROSE ARE SO REAL AND LOGICAL ❤
Lydia is so real, that's the situation on the ground where you find yourself ok without marriage.
Thank you ❤
Very true .lydia❤
She nailed the conversation by sticking to the topic (the woman's perspective) and actually airing out the reality on the ground, perhaps because where she is at in life resonates with the conversation. Not that the reality is perfect, but its the reality anyway....and such is life! We learn as we grow.
Lydia 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 you've killed the show.
You are true reflection of the situation on the ground. Watu hawapendi ukweli but you've nailed it
Lynn and the Girls, great conversation ❤
I am a born again Christian. I got married at 31 years. I am 53.
I agree with Anifa,the Lawyer. one should not move in with anyone, man or woman, before the marriage covenant. Take time to know yourself as Anifa said. Know exactly what you are looking for in a marriage partner. And yes,as the Lydia said, let your prospective partner know what your deal- breakers are , ie ,what you can't stomach, eg infidelity and domestic violence. And for marriage to make sense, the manual is the Bible, coz the manufacturer of something always knows Best how it should work...So God started marriage and He tells us how to relate in that marriage..if both husband and wife obey God, the marriage is sweet. Marriage is a beautiful thing...but it's a journey..between marriage and being single for life, I would recommend marriage, any time ,unless one has a calling from God to be celibate ❤
Wow 😊I love those insights
i agree
Lydia has a good head above her shoulders. She is truly in touch with reality...Anifa has text book theory..and thats okay, but life isnt Black and white. There are plenty of grey areas and especially with relationships.
Relationships/ Marriages are so personal.. there's no one size fits all.
Great conversation.
I agree that life is not black and white. Chart your life but in pencil. You will erase a lot along the way.
Lydia is very honest and we appreciate , me too am on my journey to self awareness and am not apologetic to saying no to directionless relationships
Lydia Wanjiru is so real..❤
May God help and remove the confusion in single ladies life esp those in their 30s
Exactly she's so real
What confusion? They should just heal and find better partners
she is real.. but her ideas lean on the toxic. The other panelists did better
Lydia you are so authentic. You need your own show. I love your honesty
She has her channel
@@lydiahodhiambo5748anajiita aje
And it is not that Lydia is advocating for nyash/money culture, she just saying what is happening in the real world.
The lady on yellow top is such a vibe and real this one is for keeps
The lady sitting next to Lynn is so beautiful ❤
I admire these ladies for knowing what they want…There are a lot of unhappily married people…It’s better to single and happy than married and sad..
Love, love, love Lydia ❤. Lynn, thank for bringing this to us. Enjoy listening to the show. The only thing I I would like to see changed is interpreting from the local language to English for from other parts of the the world 🙏
Lydia wanjiru my all time favourite tiktoker..big up
Thank you ❤
@@getnakedwithlydia❤🎉From New York.
Each lady does offer unique energies✨ Lydia does represent progressive growth and she captures how things are on the ground. She is aware of her past mistakes and has clearly learnt her lessons👌. I feel Anifa is coming off a bit strong because she probably understands herself and achieved 'self-awareness' earlier on and insists on crucial points which people need to hear, I can feel her advocacy energy💪. Rose is so composed and mature, more of a listener and when she talks she gives solid points!💯 I am wondering what is this vocabulary of "real" man or woman?...Anyways, it's great to hear these lovely ladies and looking forward to the men panel!
Real self-awareness comes with empathy because you understand that even yourself you are not perfect. Anifa lacks that
Just as Hanifa is saying,you can tell whether a r/ship will work as early as 1week when you are aware of yourself
Getting a good man is our Father's assignment. He matches you for His purpose. When a man knows your Father He will definitely discern who you are. The most beautiful thing l have experienced in this world is when a man knows you are his wife. It doesn't hold much if you are a King's daughter, a super woman or a shy girl he will do anything to have you. Nothing shall intimidate him.
Another powerful tool for women over 30 is to work on yourself being the right partner instead of looking for Mr right. Go for therapy, deal with your wounds, strip off your warped ideologies, work on your relationship with God and warm up for a man whom the lord has prepared for you. Stop chasing men & acting desperate. Many miss good opportunities because of unpreparedness, toxicity, unrealistic expectations/standards & wasting time knowingly with users.
Being over 30 is actually a strength because you are mature & focused. Dont allow street talk define you- let your purpose speak for you.
Absolutely 💯 tht is the wisdom we need
God does not choose our spouses for us. He did for Adam and when things went wrong we saw how man blamed God. The Bible says a man shall leave his parents and FIND a wife. Not find “the wife who God prepared for him”.
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Lydiah is so mature, never once allowed herself to be put down and was so honest with her experiences
I second this.... very strategic wise..... Mature...... informed... I love her already ❤❤
Anifa is my star ⭐. She's espousing this thing that everyone would prefer sweeping under the carpet, 'THE FOUNDATION'. If the foundational fabric is wrong from the go nothing else matters, it'll all come tumbling down!!
I like anifa too
She is literally the best 💯💯
@lynn i agree with these ladies. My hubby is my number one support system. He pushes me to heights i didnt know i can go to. He believes in me in ways i cant even imagine....
I got married at 25yrs now almost mid thirties still here and happy❤❤❤... Marriage is a two way and the two must in a place where they understand how to handle each other.. Communicate better in all aspects of the Union
Keep it up baba
This was a good conversation, Lydia is a whole vibe. I can't wait for the next Pannell with men and them
Waiting too
Lydia was on point and very relatable. Haniva uko world gani aki coz that's not ours.
Hanifa is treating this like a courtroom, and it's not. She should appreciate that people have different opinions and experiences, without trying to counter or object to everything. The other two are very reasonable and pleasant to watch.
I agree. I struggle to take people seriously when they speak in absolutes, and expect their experience of something to be everyone’s. The condescending way she speaks to Lydia is bothering me and I wish the others had intervened more. Life is not black and white. What is ideal is different from what is lived daily. I’m glad Lydia stood her ground.
Hanifa did a better job. She countered the toxicity in the comments of the other woman in yellow
I thought so too... Wah,
She is afraid of talking about herself and or her failures. She tries to hide behind others by acting therapist and idealist.
@@peacepatiencei think his man is watching and he does not want to spoil the relationship
Allow people to have their lived experiences and stop being self-righteous @ miss advocate. No one knows everything, if we did you all would not be on that couch. We figure it out as we go along and sometimes, we get it right and other times we get it awfully wrong. . . and can even repeat these negative experiences to our detriment. That's just life and how we learn. Be humble!!!
Very true
That is masculine energy at work
Lydia, Lydia, Lydia...you will kill me with laughter and this gal is upfront and her opinions are so practical.
Very strategic ❤🎉
Kudos to Lydia
For she has shared with personal experience and one is able to learn from her
People want the freedom..but they don't want to be held accountable...very true madam advocate..nice conversation ladies
My dear anyone in 30's watching this, please especially women, put in ur mind that in this age u should focus on having a family, success and everything u want musidanganywe
Marriage is not the only goal to heaven
@@lizzibekatongo7212 u must be a teenager answering this or hook-up person so I have no time to change words with u sorry
@@doreenogola l am 31yrs.... heaven is the goal 😁
@@lizzibekatongo7212 heaven is awesome everyone wants to be there but remember u was created to fill the world
Wow thank you Lynn for this 🙏..
Bring us pst T. Its been long. He may be rebuilding something
Lydia my girl is saying the truth she has been through alot Lynn host her alone and give her your platform to pour herself out, infact amewahi niachia her house in Nakuru and moved in with a maasai guy only after a month i sent her fare kurudi😂😂😂😂she can attest to this.but am happy to see her grown like this.wish you happiness Lydia.
Aaww kumbe uko hapa. Thank you ❤
@@getnakedwithlydiaSuch a vibe! Definitely subscribing to your channel!
find what works for you. am in my 30s and have been married for the last 8 years. My husband doesn't expect me to foot any bill, he takes care of literally everything. I think it comes down to your character as a woman, are you comfortable sitting with money in the bank and allowing your partner to pay for everything? He may not necessarily need it but I think it's a good gesture. Good show!
As a woman, let people live the way that works for them. If going 50 50 works then good, if being a house wife where the man is providing 100% then its still fine. As long as there's no disrespect or violence. Kos i believe every marriage or relationship is a manual of its own.
True.
very true
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I agree
For me , yours is the best comment.
I love how REAL Lydia is. She has real life examples which happen everyday. Somehow and Somewhat her and Anifa are not totally agreeing on some few things. But we move on regardless 🤣
An Empowered Woman Is Strong both In and Out.
On this one I choose peace , the rain started hitting us when we said let's empower the girl child , let's see her rise , what did we do ? When we thought we were doing the most amazing thing we forgot the boychild , we left one big gap that will take years to bridge ....The boy child isn't weak ...The boy child has been forgotten and we need to refocus to remind our men they too can rise up . That is how we can have a balanced peaceful family...note : there's nothing wrong with an empowered woman it's a plus to any man ....but arrogance and disrespect is a problem in majority of set-up... where the boy child is slowly fading away .
Agreed
This platform has really built me,I find amazing women here,God bless you Lyn with yr team
Self awareness, therapy and to stop normalising what is wrong is my take home. Thank you ladies nice talk. 😊
I really love Lydia, she's very geniune.I will really love to see her again ...
Soon 😍
There is always a pressure at your 30's when you are not married and no kids, but people tend to pretend that it's ok, but it's not OK, come and ask me, I got married at 35 and I know how it is.
The disconnect of dating in your 30s I feel it comes from having an imbalance. We are trying to heal or rather grow financially, emotionally, mentally, physically, and spiritually. The imbalance comes when we date people who are not at the same level as we are or are not trying to heal themselves in all these spectrums.
Thank you
Why not date older then?
@@teebagur my comment doesn't say you shouldn't date older. Self-awareness and self-work are not based on age.
@@teebagurbecause some older men may come with baggage.
@@Jojo-pv3uf being older than 30 you don’t think you come with baggage?
Lydia is telling the truth, the nyash and money society narrative is very true , everything has changed unlike back in the days, things have evolved .
Trueee..naa cjui colour
Marriage and having kids are not the ultimate goal in this life, to me married or not kids or not,happiness is the ultimate goal
Lydia is so real
Lovely conversation❤❤❤❤. Real life examples by Lydia. She is nailing the points out.
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Thank you so much for watching
This is quite encouraging!! Keep it up Lynn... Always in my prayers. ❤️❤️❤️
bring the men. tusikie.
When we talk of favour it means it follows you everywhere Lydia we need you back in this platform you are so real ❤
Lydiah got me rolling on the floor😂 She is the type of"bitter truth"❤😂
I had my dauhghter at 21 she is now 15 and I am 36, what I have e to say is people have no business dating below the age of 25. And people just need to do what works for them, there is no manual.
Younger women need to hear MARRY BEFORE YOU CARRY.
That doesn't guarantee one might not end up being a single parent but yeah.....@@muchemikimani5318
Well, I disagree. I got married just after turning 24, and am still thriving years later. I also know several people who married and got married in their early 20s, and are living happily ever after. Please don't stamp your experience on everyone.
Marriage isn't so much about age as it is about commitment. Some 20yr olds will readily commit and do the work needed to keep a marriage, while some other 30 and 40yr olds behave like fools: moving about from lover to lover and hurting their partners.
Also, you can't say 'People have no business dating below the age of 25' and then conclude that 'People just need to do what works for them, there is no manual'.
That's a contradiction because you just told people that marrying before 25 won't work.
okay@@shekainahgathonimutisya7497
Anifa is speaking the truth, when you are self-aware you know what will work, and what will not. It is important to be selfaware.
Self awareness is the key... Most people are saying I am out of touch with reality because I depict a perfect picture and appear self righteous. But I just don't have a bad relationship experience to share with people to be honest. However I totally understand why I am so unrelatable
@@anifamango6756 Before I became self aware I used to really let BS slide. Right now I don't play,I realized I matter and even if someone has money or looks desirable but don't relate to me the way I would like to happen I go my way. At times we keep blaming people for our misfortune especially in relationships but we forget that we are the ones that made the decision to ignore the red flags despite seeing them on the first day
Lydia has conquered her wisdom
@lynn , let me tell you something waah, at 23 i had 3 children, no job with an abusive partner all in the name of family, mind you my sister at that age she had a career , lands, car and renting her own apartment doing good. she eventually got married and very happy. mimi marriage broke and am picking the pieces now at 39 to build my career and finances,, womeeeeeen, grow you the marriage life will come. Someone asked me if my sister and I are from the same mother coz they could tell a big difference..
Woyie
Sorry Dorcas, all the best in your pursuit for growth.
Great and timely conversation. However it was not necessary for the advocate to attack Lydia, she was speaking her truth, that is her story.. this is the reason some people shy away from sharing their story. I'm a psychologist, It's important to remember and know that we all have different life experiences, don't be so judgmental we all make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, we live and we learn.
Now on marriage, i have been married for 18 years, got married in my early twenties, marriage works if the two people in each work as a team, nurture their friendship and commit to stay together no matter the circumstances. Self awareness is very key in this life, but we respect that we all have a different purpose in life, marriage and kids are not what define you as a person
Lydia seems to be the youngest in the bunch so her measure of thinking has crossed eras and therefore it’s different. Should she get married I.e. if she chooses to, that man has to be intelligent, open minded and progressive. I like her personally. And all the ladies by extension. 🙏🏾
😂😂This Lydia you will kill us, I have liked you, talking from your heart 🎉
HANIFA you are spot on! I keep shouting that we are misusing this term called "friend".
Lydia Lydia Lydia should be interviewed alone,she’s real/authentic and a whole vibe !!!!
As a single man in his 30s ,,,,,am financially well.....but ladies if you dont learn to submit whether you have money or not......... we will die all single
Men should also learn to love and honor women. Submission is easy when a woman has been loved right. Plant love reap submission.
@@a_k3730 how about plant submission and reap love. You seriously are ignorant that men value increases with age. We can get what we want the older we get. So learn submission early on ama you'll be like these women
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Women submit to men who treat them well, (not necessarily financially but In all aspects)
@@phillipsidhojapap1461if men are the head aka leader, what comes first? A leader leads first then gains followers. You don’t demand people to follow you before you start leading. In fact, people choose their leaders based on the leader leading by example. So asking a woman to submit when you have not shown her love is like asking a school to give you a degree when you have not started class.
Thank you Lynn for bringing these conversations to us. At 60+ I'm learning a lot. Very outspoken 30s and 40s who know what they want and are ready to work towards it. I love how Kenyans are now ready to talk about their stories.. Thank you for giving us a platform to be vulnerable in public. I hope people are learning as I am
Hi Lynn this was a good show. Lydia is so real. I like that she is using and sharing her experience. Very authentic. But uhmmmm Anifa, I felt she was on a high horse judging the others especially Lydia. I felt that instead of drawing on her own life experiences she was too engrossed with judging and borderline condescending to the other guests. The world is already so judgmental to ladies, we need more grace not judgement. I think your show Lynn is about been real and authentic, not judging. Everyones experience in life is valid. No need to tear others down on this show. I dont think thats what the show is about. 1:51:43
Nice conversation!!Loved how Lydia was articulating herself.However,when the Bible talks about men providing,it’s not just only talking about money.Provision is broad.
Thank you ❤
she is a modern woman with conservative ideas.🙃 Beats sense
Thanks for this conversation,at 31 without a kid(s), without marriage i felt so desperate but i thank God for this show, I've learnt alot,,, Lydia all the way,much love for being real
We should start a girlsclub❤
Its too late madam. Unfortunately you will understand this comment after your 50th Birthday
I think people are overreacting with this whole dating/marriage issue. Marriage is all about timing.
When the right time comes, both the man and the woman will meet and get married.
Marriage is beautiful. Both men and women are beautiful. Let's not tarnish marriage or make it a very complex matter. You can meet with a stranger today, and get married shortly after.
Spot on!!
Lydia is authentic and so funny I love her.
Thank you ❤
Thank you ❤
Anifa❤️❤️❤️❤️i love how she thinks....how she answers....how she is so self aware...how she makes you feel you are responsible for your own decisions and actions❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😂😂lovely
Thank you. That's what we are encouraging... All parties should hold themselves accountable
I am turning 30 and bby let me tell you, finding a man that can deal with me is getting harder by the day.
I guess being older has made me understand myself better and I know exactly what I need in a partner. If marriage doesn't happen for me at the end of the day, I am okay with that because I know that I genuinely tried.
As men age as well they tend to know their worth too so don't expect men above 30 to just entertain the BS that women bring and also they will not approach just anyone that comes their way. They also want refined women according to the qualities they are looking for
I like ur courage dear u r in the right path know ur value ad ur worth the right life partner wll come
@@AnnahMwangi-l1v Thank you dear.
Am in my late 20s and am already intimidating men it's crazy how men fear educated successful women.
@@tafadhalijiheshimu6229 don't worry focus on ur goals,ur career,the right person will come on ur way, don't give urself to desperate men,whom their purpose is to use women ad dump them,I believe we need right person who wll stick with us to the end
Lynn this panel was so lit 🔥 as a woman on her 30s it really made sense go go go and Lydia making me laugh out loud
Anifa, my primary school mate, neighbor at home and childhood friend, we used to call her Shiru,pass my greetings LN, it's amazing seeing her at your show. The show has really been of great impact. Soar soar high LNS 🔥
Aaaaaaw hey homie
@@anifamango6756 hey hey 🤗
Hi LNN team. Much love from Uganda. We love your work👌🏾🎊however this is to request that captions are put on every video where there are some parts that are not in English to enable us understand better.Thank you .
Interestingly once someone has made peace with staying single is when they are actually ready for marriage. Lydia you are on the correct path
Amen and thank ❤
The advocate came off as judgy, in my opinion she talked to Lydia in a condescending manner, i was soo triggered honestly
Me too, very triggered by the way she was addressing Lydia.
The truth hurts
No it's not judging Lydia hasn't been aware of her attachment style and co-dependency pia this are things that make us attract some wierdos
True. Lydia's EQ is on another level. The way she combined humour and maturity to handle Anifa's self-righteous, codescending, and judgemental attitude deserves praise.
While Anifa might have said some truth, people need to understand that it's never about what you say, it's how you say it. Knowing the right words to use is a skill.
Someone else who's emotionally intelligent would have said the same thing and it would have come out friendly and empathetic instead of sounding like an attack on Lydia.
She spoke the truth but her tone wasn't the best. I also hope she's speaking like that to herself too.
Mango I loved your point on friendship. In reality friendship is about someone who opens your true self. Someone who connects with you for being you...not because of money or education.
Perfectly said
Lydia Wanjiru is just the best 💓💓 Afungue youtube channel
Iko. Get naked with Lydia. Thanks ❤
LYDIA can hold an effective conversation,,she has good communication skills and is a good listener..
Go on ladies stand your grounds, speak out, straight talk breaks no friendship stand firm👏👏👏❤️🇬🇧
Rose has nailed it, be realistic in dating bit by bit a good thing will finds it’s way. ….stop looking so hard.
Dig deeper. Help-meet is a very loaded description. The Holy Spirit is a Helper - start from there; provision is not about bills - it is way deeper than that, we have men that can provide food and pay bills but do not qualify to be called husband according to God's definition.
Lydia is so real and honest. She is speaking what exactly is happening kwa ground..