Falcons fans don't worry. We just went through 4-5 years of terrible QB play. We now have solidified the most important position in sports for the next 10 years 🔒
Great move. I predicted it. Ignorant fans misunderstanding it are whining like babies. If you listened to Fontenot/Morris the last month, it was fairly obvious. Falcon’s management finally seems to know what they’re doing. Good times ahead.
The best way I’ve heard it explained is Falcons GM and coach aren’t trying to win a super bowl they’re just trying not to be terrible for years to come If they were honestly working for a Super Bowl they’d have picked a player who helps the falcons now
@@jomc3 Falcons have a plan. They are tying to repeat 2015 and 2016 seasons, the later when they went to the SB. Dynamic offense, good enough defense, solid QB. Now we have a great QB for the years after. This year will be the kicker: can we fulfill the promise, can Kirk stay healthy and take us to a Division win and the play-offs? If he does, next year the sky is the limit. If not, the natives will be restless once again.
@@Duskthunder9 I think Atlanta actually has more talent than Houston, but they just need a better QB. Hopefully Cousins or Penix can get them to the playoffs. Think they can win the NFC south as it's a weaker division.
This was a genius pick Kurt now to win some games and put fans back in the stands. Penix is a plus for the. Future and now if Kurt gets hurt you have a top ten draft pick to come in and fill seats also.
Even Thomas Dimitroff mentioned on the franchise guy mock draft that he would secure the long term qb position this year due to the qb class available this year and the fact that we are picking early
No way Penix is sitting for two seasons. Not going happen. If Falcons are struggling, don't be surprised if Penix is put in the line up around week 9 or 10. Cousins hates real competition in the QB room. This is coming from a Viking fan. I think the GM was smart selecting a QB in the first round.
I'm a lifelong Falcons fan, since Steve Bartkowski was drafted, and I was stunned at Penix being picked. After waking up this morning and thinking about it, I get it. IF Cousins goes down, I'd rather have Penix there instead of Heinecke. I understand the succession pick for the future of our franchise. We didn't have this opportunity after Matt Ryan, it was a dysfunctional merry-go-round of QBs until now, we needed this succession plan. Not everyone likes it but, I get it. I've watched tape on Penix, this young man is going to be a beast for us and I bet he won't be a "bench warmer" for long. The Penix pick makes sense now instead of waiting on future drafts because this type of QB may not be available if we had waited a couple years down the road.
I honestly love the pick. I feel like this is what they should’ve done with Justin Fields a few years ago, sit him behind a proven vet and let him learn. Now we focus on building the defense.
Yep I guess that could be so one thing you just get JJ McCarthy 😂 😂 You know somewhere that's young and maybe can actually stay healthy 😂 😂 I mean time will tell on this one
This makes no sense If they were worried about losing their first for next year then they would have just traded their first and moved back into the first round this year and selected Latu
@@alex.p2194 The Falcons Drafted Up aand wasted a 3rd RD Pick to get Ruke Ohrorrohoroh whatever the fk his name is and DIDN'T Take Newton who wasa First RD projection,.This is the ONLY Draft in 10 yrs where YOU DIDN'T NEED to draft up and get a Quality DT because of DT quantity and the Falcons DID,..lol~ Just stupidity on another Level~
The packers drafting love and the chiefs drafting Mahomes was luxury picks. Them two teams were still successful before they picked them guys. The falcons don’t have that luxury. We haven’t done nothing to just waste a first like we did.
This GM and coach duo knows what they are doing! Two bright minds, articulate and leader of men. We have Kirk and he is also, 36 (soon), had a non-contact Achilles injury last year and we have to have a plan. We did not have a plan after Matty Ice left, so this was the right move. Lets go baby! Bright minds baby.
I get it's a pick for the future. But I don't think we're winning the Super Bowl with the roster now. Defense has holes and still does. D line is old, no dominant edge, and missing a corner. Why draft something that isn't gonna help anytime soon.
Can someone believes it's playing why he's gonna be 26 years old can he stay healthy now once again how is this a pick for the future. If you want to justify incompetence go where I had
@Rapidre73745 I say win now and in the future that works also, there's no one way to skin a sheep son, let them do them it's their careers I trust them over these Madden GMs 😂😂😂😂😎
Look, plan A and B are just made together instead of a now A and later B a few years from now. Quality QBs for now and the future get to grow together and instead of have a young QB thrown in to the mix to try and go playoff bound in his first year. Also, Falcons win now mode can get you into the late first round of draft like the championship KC. So, no picking a top QB in next times draft, so get him now. Both QBs check ALL the boxes all at once! Was it a surprise, yes! Was it a smart, bold move? Yes!
Shedeur Sanders will be available next year. He has ALL the confidence we need. This was a waste of a pick. We messed up with Lamar Jackson, and this is the redemption?
I like Penix and hope he proves everyone wrong. But honestly this city would have been going crazy if we got Sanders next year. He definitely has the confidence we’re looking for in a Qb
@@printessmorris3628 nah I was thinking that too. Or give up some players for a high pick. Sanders not going past the 4th pick and most likely Atlanta knew they wouldn’t be willing to go for something like that
No, you're going to be THANKING them if/when Kirk is injured. There is no guarantee he will start this year, he's coming off achilles repair and is 36.
People reacting like we dont have 3 more picks tomorrow lol. Lots of DL talent on the board. Yes Kirk was paid alot but he was paid to push us beyond the 7-10 team theyve been. What happens when kirk puts us in the playoffs for 2-3 years (assuming he does what everyone expects) and now we have an old qb with a low 1st round pick. Penix gets to sit, heal and learn behind a above average pocket passer for a couple years and then step in after being groomed at the nfl level. Yall need to stop over reacting cuz we didnt follow Mel Wiper's big board
Thanks to all three of you for really going into an in-depth discussion of this pick and explaining how he fits into the bigger picture of the Falcons' future plans. I wasn't expecting this pick at #8, but I did know we had brought Penix in for a workout recently and I didn't believe they would go to that length ~ and put Penix out for that workout ~ just as a smoke screen and not because they were seriously looking to take him with their first pick. I know most of the fan base is in Full Meltdown this morning, but once they truly understand this was the Falcons likely LAST OPPORTUNITY to draft a franchise-level QB at the top of the draft for maybe five years or even longer maybe they will be okay with it. This was a smart move, a solid move, and I fully support the decision Rah and TF made with this pick.
I said it was the best pick. It's one of those old school moves where you've got a great back up playing your second team. Hes gonna be a great pro and part of a great Falcons future. The Falcons are gonna be one of the best teams in the NFL for many years
Yall are really trying to justify this pick and it’s hard to watch. Be honest with the fans and the franchise, this pick was too soon, too high, overall useless for 2 years when they claim they are in a “win now” mentality. The only way to clean this up is to trade our now QB3 for another pick and pray a good pass rusher emerges.
I too had Penix plus I had us taking Orhorhoro. Just had them in the 2nd and 3rd respectively. In fact when they announced the trade up I had Orhorhoro's draft profile pulled up as a possible 43 pick.
Penix will be ok so give him time to assimilate into Falcons nation.We still need a deep threat wide receiver.Ridder never had good quarterback tutelage.
This model only works if the quarterback you’re drafting is young and not injury prone and if there is a proven coaching staff that can develop quarterbacks
I think anyone that understands NFL lost faith in their decision making. Breaking the bank and making this pick when you don't even have a defense... this equals blowing leads remember 28 3
Give them a chance guys. You will love this pick few years down the road…don’t forget we might not get an opportunity to draft Kirk’s replacement next 2 years especially if we are penalized next year. I was upset as well when we made the pick but thinking about it more I believe this is a smart move
Everybody knows KC is injury prone of course we need a great DEFENSIVE LINEMAN when was last time we focus on defense like I say we can put up a lot of points but can't stop nobody just look at the last super bowl,
For so many years I've been disappointed with the draft picks but this is the first year that I've been ANGRY. I WAS excited to go to a game this year BUT after last night, I'm saving my money.
Smart pick. How can nobody see it? We have had terrible qb play for years and it’s been so frustrating. We secured the future. I like the pick and the vision.
Got the 5th QB who nobody else was chasing. He's also already had 2 ACL tears. 2 injury prone QBs and now Heineke is getting paid 5 million to play QB coach?
Can we please STOP with the whole "Green Bay model" thoughts? Green Bay drafted Rodgers 24th over all, and Love 26th over all. NOT 8TH! If Atlanta traded down and got him 10-20 picks lower it would be a fine pick. But not at #8. You are locked into Cousins for two years - minimum. Even year 3 you could release/trade him but with a $30M cap hit. So, if Cousins plays as you THINK he will when you signed him, Pennix doesn't see the field until he's 26. It just makes no sense no matter HOW you try to justify the pick.
This was Raheem Morris and Fontenot idea to revisit the Michael Vick era trying win over the Fan base for job security for the sake of "The culture " Raheem said as much when he was hired. Otherwise they still could have addressed the QB position later in the draft just not at 8th overall 🤷!
@@Terrytimemedia Not mad just an very astute observation that's all. Just don't like penix pick at 8. If it was later in the draft fine. Now if we didn't sign Kirk and chose penix at 8 and used that money 💰 to beef both Offensive line and the defense I would be fine with the draft pick.
Just think Atlanta fans a couple of months ago it looked like the Falcons were going to have a pro bowl caliber quarter back and the greatest coach of all time. Now we are left with this and will have one of the worst pass rushes in the NFL again. Bad coach and bad team management leads to this.
Ya, why don’t you talk to the fan base that has supported you for over half a century and tell them how dumb they are for not knowing all the “ins and outs” of football while we’ve had to put up with a losing franchise forever! Make it make sense…
I liked the pick. It's what everyone said when Greenbay drafted Aaron Rodgers...when the last time we had 2 good QB's. We have 3 more picks to pick defense players
True and the falcons got 8 more picks so we can fill in them holes on defense and somewhere else they may not be a lottery pick but a future building stone for this franchise
Drafting a backup QB in the 20s is a whole lot different than drafting one in the 8 spot! Especially when your team is not an established winning program at the time of doing it.
I think if anyone looks at the depth of talent in this year's draft. You'd know and understand why they chose a talent like Penix at 8. There's good CBs, DLs, EDGs, and WR left. There's even guys on the edge that has real potential of being double digit sacks players. Hell, I believe if we start AK, giving him majority of the reps. He could probably get the doubles. That's what we drafted him to be. Arthur and company was just overdoing it with personal changes every other play. I believe Penix can actually be as efficient (in his own way) as all the othe QBs that was drafted before him. If Kirk performs as expected. We're not drafting in the top 10 anytime soon. And they'll be teams beneath us clamoring for a QB. Kirk is going to be here for at least 2 years. If he something goes wrong. We'd have a successor.
Not worth much but Atlanta just acquired a million new fans.Will buy the NFL package hoping he gets in the games early. Washington loves this kid and he is a great kid and we know how luck you are to have him.
MPJ is a winner. He will win a lot of games in a Falcons jersey. And he will prove the naysayers and doubters wrong. He'll end up being a grand slam pick in the 2024 NFL Draft. I personally believe he was the best QB in the nation the last 2 years for Washington. I believe Caleb Williams will be a massive bust. So will Jayden McDaniels. Drake Maye will be good. But MPJ will be the best QB out if this draft. Check me in 5 years if I'm wrong.
I guess I shouldn’t expect unbiased analysis from a group of people who pretty much work for the Atlanta Falcons. The truth is Atlanta is paying a bridge QB 180 million dollars after they have hyped us up for months saying they brought Kirk here to try and win a championship, and instead of using that 8th over all pick to draft a immediate impact player they drafted Kirk’s replacement. Please make it make sense because I can’t!
This was a stupid decision you pay Kirk cousins for at least 3 years if he’s great by time it’s time for Michael penix to play you’ll have to pay him so no rookie contract flexibility
Lets be truthful for a second, Kirk Cousins has no team loyalty and is all about the bag. Its silly to think that Atlanta doesn't notice the energy of what Kirk leaving Minnesota means for their future as he is ALWAYS chasing bags. They simply felt the bag at the time was worth competing now and taking their only opportunity to have a top 10 QB pick in the near future now as they expect to not have that good of a pick for a long time.
Who you would have picked lol them defensive guys all dropped 😂 so who would you have picked?? Keep in mind Penix was going top half of 1st round Regardless
The owner wanted Kirk Cousins for stability even for a high price, that's why they gave him the deal. Michael Penix is who the coaches wanted. First QB since Mahomes to throw more than 4500+ yards in consecutive years. He even threw for 4000+ yards in an injury year at Indiana., came back after four injuries to lead to playoff finals.
@Otisth3God I'm talking about the same thing you are. He'll be healthy when he plays just like Penix. Only difference is a few years in age a d Penix has a worse injury history.
@Rapidre73745 there is only 1 college QB that was responsible for his team reaching the national championship, Penix's, Stroud couldn't beat Michigan 😂😂😂
Although I am not EXCITED about the pick, I understand it. This is Morris/Fontenot putting their money where their mouth is. They say the team is ready and able to win NOW. They really believe Cousins can take them to the playoffs and beyond. Being a playoff team, they would be picking in the bottom half of the draft each year (the more you win, the further back you draft). VERY hard to get a franchise QB if you are picking that late in the draft.....costs too much to move up. If you think Penix is that guy, you get him while you are here and put him in your pocket. Kirk is a 3 year plan at BEST, and if he is balling out as they EXPECT him to, they won't be able to draft his replacement in 3 years, unless they go with a Ridder-esk 3rd round project and hope he can develop. WAIT....they tried that......they had the 8th pick due to their less than stellar win/loss record. I think they DO believe in Kirk, and thats why they grabbed Penix now.
"They want to build confidence from the fans in what the team is doing" You certainly failed. I don't think this fanbase has been less confident and more angry than right now
We have the best Water Boy in the league now haha. Gets paid millions to warm the bench, then gets traded for a round 3 pick after Raheem Morris gets fired. Hopefully Terry Font as well.
fans are upset cause ATL just shat on their daft day joy. every team fan got a chance to see how a top ten pick will start on their team. falcons now are being sold it was a good pick cause 3 years down the line its gonna pay off. they sign an injury ridden vet qb then a top 10 injury ridden qb, lol. the brunette is during her best to talk the truth without getting fired from the podcast, lol.
When the NFL draft began, it went past my bedtime. The next morning, I saw that they had drafted quarterback Michael Penix Jr. But now I see things differently. It makes more sense to me now. Since you guys put things in perspective. Thank you, Tori, Derek, Terrin
Right!? Everyone so high on Odunze, but without Penix, what’s his production look like? Pitts, London and our 2 FA additions at WR are gonna be eating with Cousins and are gonna eat some more when Penix eventually starts. I was definitely shocked at the pick but after using some logic to understand the pick, it was not bad at all. Reports are out that Seahawks, Raiders, and Saints were all looking to trade into the top 10 to get Penix. Liking the pick the more I think about it.
IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT KIRK'S INJURY DO NOT PAY HIM 100 MILLION DOLLARS
He’s only guaranteed for 2 years
@@Crazycameron21 those are two years that Penix isn’t gonna be getting valuable experience. He’s gonna be 27 by the time he starts that’s terrible.
@@Duskthunder9 not its not. Qbs are playing into their late 30s and 40s now due to rules. Age doesn't matter...
@@stitch684 for rookie QB it does imo
Bingo!!!
I'm not mad at this pick at all. Surprised but not upset
Pretty much you're the only one that's not mad
Im not mad either 😂
@@kevindog5080nah a lot of mixed views
Not surprised. I can't remeber the last time I've heard some other atlanta fans happy.
@@kevindog5080not mad at all
Falcons fans don't worry. We just went through 4-5 years of terrible QB play. We now have solidified the most important position in sports for the next 10 years 🔒
You smart
No you haven’t. Penix is a second round qb at best
@@popjibbletz that’s serval teams were reported to try and trade into the top 10 for him righttt
In 10 years penix will be out of the leauge
We had 2 years of terrible QB play... Matt was absolutely not the problem and would have been better than the two we replaced him with.
We picked a tight end at the 4th spot a couple years ago & don’t even throw him the ball so idk why I’m even surprised at this pick 😂
Just another Falcons pick. 🤣
We had a coach that didn't know how to use him. Smith has a run heavy system. How would you expect him to use Pitts efficiently???
And that’s why they fired smith
@@stitch684by not drafting his lazy a$$.
He’ll get the ball this year like his rookie year when Matt Ryan was QB
Great move. I predicted it. Ignorant fans misunderstanding it are whining like babies. If you listened to Fontenot/Morris the last month, it was fairly obvious. Falcon’s management finally seems to know what they’re doing. Good times ahead.
Agree, less more building years with new qbs
Terrible
@@Duskthunder9 I agree Great move
The best way I’ve heard it explained is Falcons GM and coach aren’t trying to win a super bowl they’re just trying not to be terrible for years to come
If they were honestly working for a Super Bowl they’d have picked a player who helps the falcons now
@@jomc3 Falcons have a plan. They are tying to repeat 2015 and 2016 seasons, the later when they went to the SB. Dynamic offense, good enough defense, solid QB. Now we have a great QB for the years after. This year will be the kicker: can we fulfill the promise, can Kirk stay healthy and take us to a Division win and the play-offs? If he does, next year the sky is the limit. If not, the natives will be restless once again.
When Cousins goes down early in the season the fans will love this pick.
If cousins goes down the seasons over rookie QB don’t win playoff games
C.J. Stroud did last year. Atlanta has to make the playoffs first before we can talk about winning a playoff game.
@@enorth15 he’s way younger on a better team with a better coach and a better defense and o line and penix isn’t gonna play till he’s 26 anyways
@@Duskthunder9 I think Atlanta actually has more talent than Houston, but they just need a better QB. Hopefully Cousins or Penix can get them to the playoffs. Think they can win the NFC south as it's a weaker division.
@@Duskthunder9 damn what the baby gon do
_Side note: Tori can get it tho_ 🗣💯
I’d clap lmao
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😅😅
If you draft Penix the Saints a few picks later cant get him. Tampa his hometown team cant get him. Neutralizing threats in your own division. Genius!
The raiders would have gotten him
@@ericridingthen we should have taken Bowers….
@@ericridingVikings most definitely wanted him they wasn’t expecting him to go so early tho
Let him blow an ACL or destroy a shoulder with them instead.
@@ericriding ur assuming the raiders would have got him
This was a genius pick Kurt now to win some games and put fans back in the stands. Penix is a plus for the. Future and now if Kurt gets hurt you have a top ten draft pick to come in and fill seats also.
Even Thomas Dimitroff mentioned on the franchise guy mock draft that he would secure the long term qb position this year due to the qb class available this year and the fact that we are picking early
I like how people are acting like Penix is a durable guy. 😂
No way Penix is sitting for two seasons. Not going happen. If Falcons are struggling, don't be surprised if Penix is put in the line up around week 9 or 10. Cousins hates real competition in the QB room. This is coming from a Viking fan. I think the GM was smart selecting a QB in the first round.
Lmao y'all say so much to try and make this not seem like the stupidest draft pick.
I'm a lifelong Falcons fan, since Steve Bartkowski was drafted, and I was stunned at Penix being picked. After waking up this morning and thinking about it, I get it. IF Cousins goes down, I'd rather have Penix there instead of Heinecke. I understand the succession pick for the future of our franchise. We didn't have this opportunity after Matt Ryan, it was a dysfunctional merry-go-round of QBs until now, we needed this succession plan. Not everyone likes it but, I get it. I've watched tape on Penix, this young man is going to be a beast for us and I bet he won't be a "bench warmer" for long. The Penix pick makes sense now instead of waiting on future drafts because this type of QB may not be available if we had waited a couple years down the road.
The Atlanta falcons made a good decision Kirk cousins of making over a million they really did not have to tell him anything
I honestly love the pick. I feel like this is what they should’ve done with Justin Fields a few years ago, sit him behind a proven vet and let him learn. Now we focus on building the defense.
Passing on the best defensive player in the draft 2 years in a row.
More like 20 years. One of the oldest defenses in the year. Grady Jarret never given help in his entire career.
This has to do with the tampering that they did!! They are losing the #1 pick next year so no qb taken
This makes a lot of sense smh
Yep I guess that could be so one thing you just get JJ McCarthy 😂 😂 You know somewhere that's young and maybe can actually stay healthy 😂 😂 I mean time will tell on this one
This makes no sense If they were worried about losing their first for next year then they would have just traded their first and moved back into the first round this year and selected Latu
The mental gymnastics, y’all are doing to try to make this pic sound good is ridiculous
It's embarrassing to think these people can even call themselves "experts' or journalists~
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@@alex.p2194 and then the Falcons Draft up and take the WRONG DT
The Atlanta War Room has a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT Draft Board than 31 other Teams,.lol~
@@matthewmatt5285 that’s a good way to put it. When you have a completely different board than everybody else, ends very bad
@@alex.p2194 The Falcons Drafted Up aand wasted a 3rd RD Pick to get Ruke Ohrorrohoroh whatever the fk his name is and DIDN'T Take Newton who wasa First RD projection,.This is the ONLY Draft in 10 yrs where YOU DIDN'T NEED to draft up and get a Quality DT because of DT quantity and the Falcons DID,..lol~
Just stupidity on another Level~
The packers drafting love and the chiefs drafting Mahomes was luxury picks. Them two teams were still successful before they picked them guys. The falcons don’t have that luxury. We haven’t done nothing to just waste a first like we did.
This GM and coach duo knows what they are doing! Two bright minds, articulate and leader of men. We have Kirk and he is also, 36 (soon), had a non-contact Achilles injury last year and we have to have a plan. We did not have a plan after Matty Ice left, so this was the right move. Lets go baby! Bright minds baby.
As a Viking fan, you have no idea how divisive your QB room is due to this pick. Kirk is not going to help his replacement.
My opinion the Atlanta falcons really really haven't had a good quarterback since Michael Vick so the decision they just made was a very
I get it's a pick for the future. But I don't think we're winning the Super Bowl with the roster now. Defense has holes and still does. D line is old, no dominant edge, and missing a corner. Why draft something that isn't gonna help anytime soon.
Can someone believes it's playing why he's gonna be 26 years old can he stay healthy now once again how is this a pick for the future. If you want to justify incompetence go where I had
There r more picks and they would have been in the playoffs with a decent QB, I say tell me the lottery number with your crystal ball 😂😂😂😂😂
@Rapidre73745 I say win now and in the future that works also, there's no one way to skin a sheep son, let them do them it's their careers I trust them over these Madden GMs 😂😂😂😂😎
@@jamesedwards7946Madden gm wouldn't waste a pick on a QB l
@@nextin_dabuilding2908 right u would do something really stupid 😂😂 and because it's a game no one would care
Look, plan A and B are just made together instead of a now A and later B a few years from now. Quality QBs for now and the future get to grow together and instead of have a young QB thrown in to the mix to try and go playoff bound in his first year. Also, Falcons win now mode can get you into the late first round of draft like the championship KC. So, no picking a top QB in next times draft, so get him now. Both QBs check ALL the boxes all at once! Was it a surprise, yes! Was it a smart, bold move? Yes!
The problem is this team isn’t built to win now. Why are we acting like we have no holes?
Shedeur Sanders will be available next year. He has ALL the confidence we need. This was a waste of a pick. We messed up with Lamar Jackson, and this is the redemption?
I like Penix and hope he proves everyone wrong. But honestly this city would have been going crazy if we got Sanders next year. He definitely has the confidence we’re looking for in a Qb
In order for us to get Sanders we would have to have a very losing season. Don’t think the staff wants that lol
@@printessmorris3628 nah I was thinking that too. Or give up some players for a high pick. Sanders not going past the 4th pick and most likely Atlanta knew they wouldn’t be willing to go for something like that
Let's get both. They can take turns! xD
If you think you getting sanders next yr,I want to smoke what you smoking 😂😂might not even get a first round next yr😂😂
Cough what happened to the best player available plan that they have been trumpeting?
"Best player for their needs". It's called lying. What else do you expect from a guy working for the Aint's?
He was third rated player on the Falcons Board dummy!
@@mariobrewster3497 3rd means the best? 🤣
KIRK IS NOT GOING TO TEACH HIS REPLACEMENT
EVERYONE IS LAUGHING I
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_WHO DAT!_
No, you're going to be THANKING them if/when Kirk is injured. There is no guarantee he will start this year, he's coming off achilles repair and is 36.
Trust the process bro. This really is a game changer in a good way. Bro really is one of the best qbs in this draft
They’ve done that since 28-3
We gone have the last laugh 💯🛫
People reacting like we dont have 3 more picks tomorrow lol. Lots of DL talent on the board. Yes Kirk was paid alot but he was paid to push us beyond the 7-10 team theyve been. What happens when kirk puts us in the playoffs for 2-3 years (assuming he does what everyone expects) and now we have an old qb with a low 1st round pick. Penix gets to sit, heal and learn behind a above average pocket passer for a couple years and then step in after being groomed at the nfl level. Yall need to stop over reacting cuz we didnt follow Mel Wiper's big board
Thanks to all three of you for really going into an in-depth discussion of this pick and explaining how he fits into the bigger picture of the Falcons' future plans. I wasn't expecting this pick at #8, but I did know we had brought Penix in for a workout recently and I didn't believe they would go to that length ~ and put Penix out for that workout ~ just as a smoke screen and not because they were seriously looking to take him with their first pick. I know most of the fan base is in Full Meltdown this morning, but once they truly understand this was the Falcons likely LAST OPPORTUNITY to draft a franchise-level QB at the top of the draft for maybe five years or even longer maybe they will be okay with it. This was a smart move, a solid move, and I fully support the decision Rah and TF made with this pick.
I said it was the best pick. It's one of those old school moves where you've got a great back up playing your second team. Hes gonna be a great pro and part of a great Falcons future. The Falcons are gonna be one of the best teams in the NFL for many years
Yall are really trying to justify this pick and it’s hard to watch. Be honest with the fans and the franchise, this pick was too soon, too high, overall useless for 2 years when they claim they are in a “win now” mentality. The only way to clean this up is to trade our now QB3 for another pick and pray a good pass rusher emerges.
I too had Penix plus I had us taking Orhorhoro. Just had them in the 2nd and 3rd respectively. In fact when they announced the trade up I had Orhorhoro's draft profile pulled up as a possible 43 pick.
Be honest guys this pick made zero sense and the rest of the league is laughing at us.
As a bears fan. I feel sorry your managers are so terrible. You could have got the best edge or took Odunze from us which will likely be a pro bowler
Stop Tripping don't have the best QB room in the NFL, who gives a screw what they think😂😂😂
Inept is the word to describe us.
@@trevorredlarczyk5057u dysfunctional bear's better hope u don't destroy Williams like u did the last 4 QBs u drafted, 😂😂😂😂😂 gtfoh 😂😂
As a raider fan thank you for taking him. I was hoping we couldn't take Bo or Penix and y'all saved us lol. Thank you falcons!!
Penix will be ok so give him time to assimilate into Falcons nation.We still need a deep threat wide receiver.Ridder never had good quarterback tutelage.
We have seen this model work before. Let’s stop being short minded folks! Our future is set at QB!
This model only works if the quarterback you’re drafting is young and not injury prone and if there is a proven coaching staff that can develop quarterbacks
Those had defense and competent leadership 😉
We’ve seen it fail far more than it has worked…
Fotenot and Morris completely lost the team and fans with a draft of a prospect to sellout Cousins who they have zero faith in.
Speak for yourself
I think anyone that understands NFL lost faith in their decision making. Breaking the bank and making this pick when you don't even have a defense... this equals blowing leads remember 28 3
@@MA5UM73 But 28-3 was before Fotenot and Morris wasn't a factor in that either, so your point is stupid.
Give them a chance guys. You will love this pick few years down the road…don’t forget we might not get an opportunity to draft Kirk’s replacement next 2 years especially if we are penalized next year. I was upset as well when we made the pick but thinking about it more I believe this is a smart move
Browns and Bears been looking for a qb for 30 years ya'll trippin
We'll win now and later, great pick
7-10 here we come
Please. Pleassssssssse. Don't let us go 7-10 again. I'm going to have to pack my football fandom up.
What have the falcons won?
@@gimmedaloota top 10 draft pick 4 years in a row 😂
If you chase 2 cats, you will catch neither.
Who's Frustrated only none Falcons fans True Falcons fans are happy especially me think you falcons
Bull crap
Everybody knows KC is injury prone of course we need a great DEFENSIVE LINEMAN when was last time we focus on defense like I say we can put up a lot of points but can't stop nobody just look at the last super bowl,
Love this pick!
Welcome to Atl, Penix!!!!
I know it's not the most popular pick but I'm gonna try to see the positive in this pick
I love the pick
How what positive is coming from this we now have a Very mad $100 million quarterback.
@@thePOw3rman So which team are you reading for the Saints or Tampa Bay or Carolina fan. They quite happy right now since.
The only positive is that eventually it might get Morris and Fontano fired
@@kevindog5080 falcons fan, stop being such a crybaby, it’s a good pick
For so many years I've been disappointed with the draft picks but this is the first year that I've been ANGRY. I WAS excited to go to a game this year BUT after last night, I'm saving my money.
People this pick makes sense. You have young guy coming in to sit and learn behind Kirk is that so hard to understand
Smart pick. How can nobody see it? We have had terrible qb play for years and it’s been so frustrating. We secured the future. I like the pick and the vision.
Got the 5th QB who nobody else was chasing. He's also already had 2 ACL tears. 2 injury prone QBs and now Heineke is getting paid 5 million to play QB coach?
Can we please STOP with the whole "Green Bay model" thoughts? Green Bay drafted Rodgers 24th over all, and Love 26th over all. NOT 8TH! If Atlanta traded down and got him 10-20 picks lower it would be a fine pick. But not at #8.
You are locked into Cousins for two years - minimum. Even year 3 you could release/trade him but with a $30M cap hit. So, if Cousins plays as you THINK he will when you signed him, Pennix doesn't see the field until he's 26. It just makes no sense no matter HOW you try to justify the pick.
Stop thinking we are one defensive player away from greatness because we aren’t. Ask the 49ers and the eagles.
7:31 _Mariota & Ridder didn't work out because of Arthur Smith._
This was Raheem Morris and Fontenot idea to revisit the Michael Vick era trying win over the Fan base for job security for the sake of "The culture " Raheem said as much when he was hired. Otherwise they still could have addressed the QB position later in the draft just not at 8th overall 🤷!
Word is this came from Arthur.
U sound mad✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
Y’all wait til later yall get another riddler ! Kirk not that good James ! 15 yrs one playoff win , you think it’s just gonna change ?
@@Terrytimemedia Not mad just an very astute observation that's all. Just don't like penix pick at 8. If it was later in the draft fine. Now if we didn't sign Kirk and chose penix at 8 and used that money 💰 to beef both Offensive line and the defense I would be fine with the draft pick.
Just think Atlanta fans a couple of months ago it looked like the Falcons were going to have a pro bowl caliber quarter back and the greatest coach of all time. Now we are left with this and will have one of the worst pass rushes in the NFL again. Bad coach and bad team management leads to this.
We absolutely stole headlines at the draft we’ll leave it at that
Ya, why don’t you talk to the fan base that has supported you for over half a century and tell them how dumb they are for not knowing all the “ins and outs” of football while we’ve had to put up with a losing franchise forever! Make it make sense…
I liked the pick. It's what everyone said when Greenbay drafted Aaron Rodgers...when the last time we had 2 good QB's. We have 3 more picks to pick defense players
True and the falcons got 8 more picks so we can fill in them holes on defense and somewhere else they may not be a lottery pick but a future building stone for this franchise
You don’t know penix is good.
Drafting a backup QB in the 20s is a whole lot different than drafting one in the 8 spot! Especially when your team is not an established winning program at the time of doing it.
Pennix lost to Desmond Ridder lmao We're screwed.
@@jonvandenberg5065 love was also 3 years younger…
Wait till they find out there’s 3 more drafts until kirk contract is over lol, we didn’t need mpj
I think if anyone looks at the depth of talent in this year's draft. You'd know and understand why they chose a talent like Penix at 8. There's good CBs, DLs, EDGs, and WR left. There's even guys on the edge that has real potential of being double digit sacks players. Hell, I believe if we start AK, giving him majority of the reps. He could probably get the doubles. That's what we drafted him to be. Arthur and company was just overdoing it with personal changes every other play. I believe Penix can actually be as efficient (in his own way) as all the othe QBs that was drafted before him. If Kirk performs as expected. We're not drafting in the top 10 anytime soon. And they'll be teams beneath us clamoring for a QB. Kirk is going to be here for at least 2 years. If he something goes wrong. We'd have a successor.
Not worth much but Atlanta just acquired a million new fans.Will buy the NFL package hoping he gets in the games early. Washington loves this kid and he is a great kid and we know how luck you are to have him.
xD
Smart move for ATL.
MPJ is a winner. He will win a lot of games in a Falcons jersey. And he will prove the naysayers and doubters wrong. He'll end up being a grand slam pick in the 2024 NFL Draft. I personally believe he was the best QB in the nation the last 2 years for Washington. I believe Caleb Williams will be a massive bust. So will Jayden McDaniels. Drake Maye will be good. But MPJ will be the best QB out if this draft. Check me in 5 years if I'm wrong.
Lol learn for a few years? Bruh is older by the time his rookie contract is done he'll be nearly 30. 😬😬
We'll probably end up trading him for a round 4 pick after Raheem gets fired.
It’s not the pick we deserve but it’s the pick we need
I guess I shouldn’t expect unbiased analysis from a group of people who pretty much work for the Atlanta Falcons. The truth is Atlanta is paying a bridge QB 180 million dollars after they have hyped us up for months saying they brought Kirk here to try and win a championship, and instead of using that 8th over all pick to draft a immediate impact player they drafted Kirk’s replacement. Please make it make sense because I can’t!
Paid Kirk $180 mill just to draft a guy top 8 to back him up 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This was a stupid decision you pay Kirk cousins for at least 3 years if he’s great by time it’s time for Michael penix to play you’ll have to pay him so no rookie contract flexibility
Raheem will get Fired and the new coach will be trading Penix for a 4th round pick lol
Brilliant move by the Falcons !
Lets be truthful for a second, Kirk Cousins has no team loyalty and is all about the bag. Its silly to think that Atlanta doesn't notice the energy of what Kirk leaving Minnesota means for their future as he is ALWAYS chasing bags. They simply felt the bag at the time was worth competing now and taking their only opportunity to have a top 10 QB pick in the near future now as they expect to not have that good of a pick for a long time.
Kirko had himself a tantrum. Penix might take some of kirkos big cake.
Falcons are now officially broken and now absolutely need a complete rebuild from the owner to the press. A complete cleanse.
Who you would have picked lol them defensive guys all dropped 😂 so who would you have picked??
Keep in mind Penix was going top half of 1st round Regardless
The owner wanted Kirk Cousins for stability even for a high price, that's why they gave him the deal. Michael Penix is who the coaches wanted. First QB since Mahomes to throw more than 4500+ yards in consecutive years. He even threw for 4000+ yards in an injury year at Indiana., came back after four injuries to lead to playoff finals.
Lmfao yall are talking about the number 8 pick sitting on the bench for 3 years and being traded. That’s how we want to justify this? So unserious
As a UW fan, the only way MP doesn’t end up a Top 5 NFL QB is if he has a career ending injury. His arm talent is second to none.
We are the laugh of the draft…😂😂
Of the World and these people are Calm?,.
It's annoying and disturbing~
Laughingstock of the league has been solidified. Move over Jets.
They won't make the same mistake twice.... they'll make totally new ones.
Penix baby🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿‼️‼️
So you're telling me that they do all this "due diligence" and still make stupid decisions? Wow😂
QB shouldn’t be a issue for awhile it’s strange how comfortable we are with a Older QB off of a Achilles
Yeah, better get a rookie with a bad knee and shoulder 😂
Yah now we have a QB with 2 ACL tears. Shoulder Tear. Shoulder Dislocation. While Heineke is on the roster for 5 million to play QB Coach?
Penix is healthy right now , Kirk is not lol you guys are the type to get married with no prenup
Always insure yourself
@@MumRah He’s healthy as of me writing this lol what are you talking about.. Kirk is still injured as of me writing this
@Otisth3God I'm talking about the same thing you are. He'll be healthy when he plays just like Penix. Only difference is a few years in age a d Penix has a worse injury history.
Sorry, but this rationalization of the dumb this decision is futile. Falcons messed up this pick
No we need this pick Kirk has never won the big game so let’s stop acting like it He ok!
Nice pick atlanta
Then why are we paying him 180 million lmao 2 wrongs dont make a right.
You guys blowing smoke
This was a great pick.
2 ACL tears. Shoulder Tear. Shoulder Dislocation. I think it's going to be an issue. This guy is clearly describing the glass as half-full.
It's not even that he's like, "the glass is to big for that amount of water." 😂
Not the worst decision they made this year
This was a great pick
@Rapidre73745 that's your opinion, that's funny say something else stupid 😂😂😂😐
@Rapidre73745 I trust Font and Morris over u Madden GMs 😂😂😂😂😂😎
@Rapidre73745 that revisionist history and lies are very special 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Rapidre73745 there is only 1 college QB that was responsible for his team reaching the national championship, Penix's, Stroud couldn't beat Michigan 😂😂😂
Compare the draft room celebration when they drafted Ridder to last night. Terrifying.
Terry should run the CIA, no leaks at all. Shocked the world 🎉, that was definitely successful.
Although I am not EXCITED about the pick, I understand it. This is Morris/Fontenot putting their money where their mouth is. They say the team is ready and able to win NOW. They really believe Cousins can take them to the playoffs and beyond. Being a playoff team, they would be picking in the bottom half of the draft each year (the more you win, the further back you draft). VERY hard to get a franchise QB if you are picking that late in the draft.....costs too much to move up. If you think Penix is that guy, you get him while you are here and put him in your pocket. Kirk is a 3 year plan at BEST, and if he is balling out as they EXPECT him to, they won't be able to draft his replacement in 3 years, unless they go with a Ridder-esk 3rd round project and hope he can develop. WAIT....they tried that......they had the 8th pick due to their less than stellar win/loss record. I think they DO believe in Kirk, and thats why they grabbed Penix now.
I’m with Derek on this
Remember Charles told you if they get Kirk Cousins the Falcons can double dip
"They want to build confidence from the fans in what the team is doing" You certainly failed. I don't think this fanbase has been less confident and more angry than right now
This guy is a genius. How about we just play both qb’s at once?
That's Arthur Smith double end around with the backup TE/QB level of genius. 😂
We have the best Water Boy in the league now haha. Gets paid millions to warm the bench, then gets traded for a round 3 pick after Raheem Morris gets fired. Hopefully Terry Font as well.
Y can’t people realize that was just the first round, the draft come on tdy, it’s not the end of the world
Why yal on here hating we good die heart fan we lit 🔥🔥🔥🔥so save the small talk and stop hating we good
I love it
Tori what are your thoughts on former SanDiego State qb Mayden??
Penix is the best QB in the class, good get if it were not for all the money spent on Cousins, which could have been spend on other FAs.
Thanks
fans are upset cause ATL just shat on their daft day joy. every team fan got a chance to see how a top ten pick will start on their team. falcons now are being sold it was a good pick cause 3 years down the line its gonna pay off. they sign an injury ridden vet qb then a top 10 injury ridden qb, lol. the brunette is during her best to talk the truth without getting fired from the podcast, lol.
When the NFL draft began, it went past my bedtime. The next morning, I saw that they had drafted quarterback Michael Penix Jr. But now I see things differently. It makes more sense to me now. Since you guys put things in perspective. Thank you, Tori, Derek, Terrin
I can see it. No QB purgatory for the next 10-12 yrs
Exactly Rack looking at Odunze Michael is throwing him open on alot of their connections!
Right!? Everyone so high on Odunze, but without Penix, what’s his production look like? Pitts, London and our 2 FA additions at WR are gonna be eating with Cousins and are gonna eat some more when Penix eventually starts.
I was definitely shocked at the pick but after using some logic to understand the pick, it was not bad at all. Reports are out that Seahawks, Raiders, and Saints were all looking to trade into the top 10 to get Penix. Liking the pick the more I think about it.
@@manulepo2857 💯