jade pruning and propagation IN WINTER...can you do that?

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  • You can definitely prune and propagate plants in the winter months as long as they get sufficient LIGHT!
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  • @joelcan
    @joelcan 7 місяців тому +14

    No music, no asking for like subscribe and no bs. Thank you for making videos that are thoughtful as well as educational.

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  7 місяців тому +2

      Those are the type of videos I like to watch as well. I know that if people like my videos they will subscribe. I don't need to remind them or annoy them. Hahaha

    • @2Pferde
      @2Pferde 2 місяці тому

      Exactly my thinking! Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

  • @CarrionCrow993
    @CarrionCrow993 8 місяців тому +5

    Knew I shouldnt have started watching these videos while working. Now I'm itching to drop everything and tend to my neglected succulents!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  8 місяців тому

      Good luck!

    • @CarrionCrow993
      @CarrionCrow993 8 місяців тому

      @@EverythingPlants update: I tended them and then went and bought more neglected succulents (they were on sale).
      I wanna make succulent trees.

  • @blindovermatter3054
    @blindovermatter3054 Рік тому +27

    As someone with a visual impairment, I really like jade plants because a lot of the care for them can be easily done by touch, including everything you talked about in this video. Very well done!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +2

      I agree! I will always determine if they need water by feeling the leaves. I actually do this with my plants such as Hoyas and even ficus plants

    • @blindovermatter3054
      @blindovermatter3054 Рік тому +5

      I do the same thing. I have a few different varieties of dracaena, ZZ plants, snake plants, and a few others as well. When I can’t tell by feeling the plant itself, I go by the weight of the pot or the moisture level of the soil or both. to me, sometimes it’s actually more helpful than using the limited amount of vision that I have, because it allows me to check multiple things in another way, giving me a more accurate picture of what’s going on with the plants by touch.

  • @sushiegirl
    @sushiegirl 10 місяців тому +4

    I have a 30 years old jade that I bought at Home Depot and a 25 years old as well. They spend all of the summers outside, they love it 🥰

  • @777uriel.
    @777uriel. Рік тому +7

    I've had my jade tree over 20 years, i watched lots of pruning videos but uts the first time I hear someone explain in which direction the new branches will grow when you prune it. You just saved a very wonky jade tree, thank you 😊

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +1

      That is great to hear! Thanks for watching my video. I have more Jade videos on my channel if you're interested

  • @Blessedpb
    @Blessedpb 9 місяців тому +5

    GREAT vid! I learned a lot about trimming and propagating my jades, instead of just guessing. Thanks so much for sharing.

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  9 місяців тому

      Anytime!

    • @vickykent353
      @vickykent353 8 місяців тому +1

      Same here. He explains everything so clearly and precisely .

  • @serenitycarlos2
    @serenitycarlos2 Рік тому +8

    Just rescued a jade plant so this tutorial is well received. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +1

      Glad it was helpful! I have many more jade care, pruning and watering videos if you are interested in checking them out!

  • @PleasantOakFarmhouse
    @PleasantOakFarmhouse Рік тому +7

    Thank you!
    I’ve got a 35+yr old Jade and he’s gone ‘spindly’ I’m terrified to trim him up but gonna do it..!.. 😬😅

  • @holisticallyholly4612
    @holisticallyholly4612 Рік тому +6

    This is so helpful! remember I asked you about my mom's 20 year old jade plant, well I haven't propagated it yet and it is so huge with so many branches drooping and so many sites that would be perfect to cut, and now its winter time. lol It is in a big window that get sunlight. This makes me more confident that it will be okay! Thank you!

  • @tanlinda3902
    @tanlinda3902 Рік тому +1

    I also tried propagating a jade leaf and finally after 2 years it start’s producing new growth

  • @brrrinalaska6411
    @brrrinalaska6411 10 місяців тому +1

    Your tip about cutting and what direction it will branch in was very useful!

  • @mollys1584
    @mollys1584 Рік тому +3

    Hi Jeff. Like you I grow my 14" bowl of Jade under lights. I pruned mine lin the Fall and I've got some beautiful new growth....plus a whole new plant from the cuttings!

  • @RH-jd3ft
    @RH-jd3ft Рік тому +5

    Good morning from Florida! Thanks for the jade tips,I love mine so easy to care for! Hope you and your family have a wonderful holiday!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      Thank you! You too! And hope you have a wonderful holidays as well

  • @annezeigler5982
    @annezeigler5982 Рік тому +2

    Lots of how to deal with my jade! Thanks Jeff!

  • @jamieweirich
    @jamieweirich 4 місяці тому

    your content is great! as a new grower you explained it well.

  • @johnjohn40100
    @johnjohn40100 6 місяців тому

    This is amazing. This is like tree art

  • @AW-bh6dy
    @AW-bh6dy Рік тому +2

    Always nice to see you working on your Jade plant. I have a ' Janet Craig' Dracaena almost 10ft tall for over 25yrs and propagating few times to keep it shorter. Just like you said I started house plant because of that. Thank you again for sharing.

  • @normatrewhella9003
    @normatrewhella9003 Рік тому +1

    Love those Jade plants.

  • @tattedkc16
    @tattedkc16 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! I did this to my elephant bush. Much needed

  • @plantdiva8472
    @plantdiva8472 Рік тому +3

    perfect timing, I have a jade that is out of control and yes, I am very nervous about pruning, so thanks for the tips!

  • @krrrystalx
    @krrrystalx 5 місяців тому

    Soooo helpful!! Love your channel! Newish plant mom and this advice is incredible!

  • @lizettemuna3234
    @lizettemuna3234 7 місяців тому

    Very informative video. Thank you!

  • @lynnshirley
    @lynnshirley Рік тому +1

    Thankyou. Fabulous as always.

  • @patthompson5908
    @patthompson5908 Рік тому +1

    Excellent videio! Very informative. Thank you!!

  • @jillianleblanc9370
    @jillianleblanc9370 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your day plant it's a beautiful plant have a blessed day Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

  • @marichub8828
    @marichub8828 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! Thank you!

  • @oneimaginarygirl5
    @oneimaginarygirl5 Рік тому +4

    I have said it before and I’ll say it again: you always have THE best videos on jade plant care! 🪴 Thank you!

  • @vickykent353
    @vickykent353 8 місяців тому

    I have a very unfortunate situation with my jade plant. The side stems are bare from the trunk up to about 6" to 8" and then growth begins. I have to see if I can find a video that addresses that issue. I'm terrified to prune it but I'm certain that that is what I'm going to have to do.
    I'm so thankful that you explained about how the branches will grow in particular directions depending on how they are pruned. That's invaluable to know! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. 😊 ❤

  • @Prickly-Brew
    @Prickly-Brew Місяць тому

    We need to kick it and trim our jades.

  • @LucaC2626
    @LucaC2626 9 місяців тому

    Amazing video! Thank you!Could you do a video on the steamer you have going in the back?

  • @katiewilliams9273
    @katiewilliams9273 Рік тому +1

    Winter is actually the time of the year jades grow . At least thats what I always thought

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +2

      I have heard this before. As long as they get enough light you may see growth year round....maybe slower at times

  • @Cocacabanabudgets
    @Cocacabanabudgets Рік тому +1

    Thank u!

  • @catherinekasiewicz8683
    @catherinekasiewicz8683 Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @gaylech
    @gaylech 5 місяців тому

    Excellent video!! You pretty much answered all my questions. I have a giant Jade that needs pruning bad. I just don’t know what to do with all the cuttings.. tooo many! Breaks my heart to just throw them out. Wanted to ask any particular type of soil to pot up cuttings? Regular potting soil? To those nervous about pruning a Jade, they are so forgiving..it’s hard to kill these things!😂

  • @mzsimplefinancialconcepts-3448
    @mzsimplefinancialconcepts-3448 2 місяці тому +1

    Thisisgreat thank you

  • @dchomiak1956
    @dchomiak1956 9 місяців тому

    Mine looks strong & heathy, but has droopy leaves. The leaves are firm & new growth has nice parallel leaves. But the big ones droop.

  • @mishti06
    @mishti06 3 місяці тому

    Is it best to use soil specially for succulents to propagate? Or will regular potting mix work?

  • @dennisalgabre897
    @dennisalgabre897 10 місяців тому

    Can i ask what is your grow plant you are using and what do u spary to make it healthy ,thank u , i love jade plants but i always kil them 🙃🙃, got only small plant collection

  • @user-pe5lp2zo8k
    @user-pe5lp2zo8k 7 місяців тому

    when propagating from a leaf, do you ever remove the original leaf from the soil? your videos are very helpful!!

  • @juliestoffers722
    @juliestoffers722 Рік тому +1

    Love the video, my jade plant is huge and I didn't know I should be pruning it!! To be honest I kind of like the long drooping branches. Is that bad or should I prune it? Also, is that burros tail in the bottom of your pot? I own one of those too and wasn't sure if there was a reason too that or if I was just seeing things?!?!

  • @CaliLiz
    @CaliLiz 7 місяців тому +1

    I was about to put a comment asking if I can do it in dec if I have grow lights and 10 seconds later you show and talk about the same exact lights I have on my plants lol

  • @mmikeios
    @mmikeios 6 місяців тому

    This is a different cultivar of the standard jade. Leaves are inverted and thick. Do you know what cultivar is it as I did not find any info on it anywhere

  • @TuckFwitter
    @TuckFwitter 4 місяці тому

    My granny grew her jades in a cascade down from the pot.
    I assumed it was ment to grow that way.

  • @kararosee47
    @kararosee47 11 місяців тому

    How do you know if it's getting too much of a grow light? Can it relieve too much light?

  • @28SamanthaMoore
    @28SamanthaMoore Місяць тому

    I just inherited an huge 15+ yr old Jade and have been watching your videos to learn how to care for it. Ive learned how to prune and how to repot, but my question is - if it needs to be repotted should i wait to do the pruning? It has very thick woody stems going off in every direction. To tame it I'd have to cut a couple of very thick branches. And i have to repot it immediately because its in a large planter with other succulents and i cant keep that planter. So im just wondering if a major pruning at the same time as repotting would be too much of a shock?

  • @MariaM-8983
    @MariaM-8983 20 днів тому

    Hi I have replanted it, but the leaves are falling. Do I wait ten days or water it?

  • @2Pferde
    @2Pferde 2 місяці тому

    Is cactus soil for the baby Jades okay?

  • @plantsandspreadsheets
    @plantsandspreadsheets Рік тому

    Do you have a minimum #of leaves you leave on? I just planted 3 trunks with no leaves because it I was a bad plant mom, and grew super weird.

  • @plantsandspreadsheets
    @plantsandspreadsheets Рік тому +1

    I always feel like I’m going to brake it when I handle it. So wobbly but I just love them so much. Have you ever had a big break?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      I've never had a large branch break off and I attribute that to my annual pruning so the branches don't weigh as much

  • @annettenoga6182
    @annettenoga6182 9 місяців тому

    I have a very old jade tree and noticed some mealy bugs on new growth after a slight pruning done this summer. Its very droopy and extremely top heavy and I'm thinking of giving it a hard prune. Now, it's October here in Canada and probably not the ideal time to do this and I'm very scared to start this....
    Should I just spray it for the mealybugs and prune hard in Spring or do both now and cross my fingers that I will not lose it. Please give me your thoughts. Thanks

  • @Yan-th3ig
    @Yan-th3ig Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video!
    I just got some jade’s cutting, and there are some sprouting on the stem like yours.. Like in between the leaves.. Why is this happening and should I cut them and put in the soil? 🤔

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      Those are just aerial roots and are completely normal. They can signify that the plant is searching out for more water I do believe.

  • @beckypackqualls2745
    @beckypackqualls2745 Рік тому +1

    Good morning from South Dakota! We’re just about to have another blizzard. My question is, TEMPERATURE. My humidity meters also show temp. Day temp in my living room (where many plants live) is 63, 67 degrees in my guest/plant room. I’m so curious as to the temps in your home. Like, is the floor in your basement cold? Maybe make a video about who requires a warmer base, etc. you’ve quickly become my FAV plantTuber! Merry Christmas, Jeff & family! (Including puppers, obviously)🎄

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      Hey Becky! I am honoured be to your fav plant UA-camr!
      My indoor temps are pretty consistent at around 70F (21C) throughout the summer and winter....maybe around 22C in the summer. That is for the basement as well. I have a subfloor down with laminate on top and it's toasty warm

  • @lindasimmons2197
    @lindasimmons2197 Рік тому +2

    Aha! That is what I’m doing wrong with my succulents. I water them heavy to promote root growth…and they rot😔 I have killed so many succulents I’ve given up.
    With the few I have left I’m going to try and propagate at your suggestions…fingers crossed
    Thank you for this information 😊
    I find my Cacti and Sansevieria/Draceana easier!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +1

      Hey Linda....I hope this video helps!
      ua-cam.com/video/SWQxbHEtqdE/v-deo.html

    • @lindasimmons2197
      @lindasimmons2197 Рік тому +1

      @@EverythingPlants just watched the video. I don’t know how I missed it last mo. Any how Thank you for ALL the info. it is greatly appreciated.
      Can I apply this method to most of my succulents?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +1

      @@lindasimmons2197 yup, I do with all of mine.

  • @user-vv9oh1fs4b
    @user-vv9oh1fs4b Рік тому +1

    Thanks for all of your excellent videos! I have 2 large jades, one is about 25 years old and the other a few years younger. They both are in desperate need of pruning (lots of droopy branches), but they need to be repotted as well. Is there a time frame I should wait between pruning and repotting so I don't shock the plants? Is it better to prune then repot or repot then prune? Thanks so much!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  11 місяців тому

      Yeah I would do one or the other and then give it some time to adjust.....I would probably repot it first

  • @edcubitt9175
    @edcubitt9175 7 місяців тому +1

    When should you prune and propagate? Spring, summer or autumn?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  7 місяців тому +1

      I just made a video on this today with my Gollum Jade. As long as it's getting the requirements it needs then you can prune and propagate anytime of the year

  • @marton3234
    @marton3234 5 місяців тому

    why are the leaves droopy?

  • @TannerSheahan
    @TannerSheahan 7 місяців тому +1

    What kind of pruning shears are you using?
    Great video!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  7 місяців тому

      They are mini pruning shears from Canadian Tire

  • @barhut2211
    @barhut2211 Рік тому +1

    Is the jade you are showing in this video one single plant? Or is it several plant stems in the same pot?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +1

      This one has multiple stems. L.... actually have two pots of multiple stem jades

  • @frdcoast77
    @frdcoast77 Рік тому

    How do you know which direction branches will grow in.. from which angles to cut?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +1

      It kind of tough to explain but if you have a set of leaves and you cut just above those leaves the new branches will form on the same side as those leaves

  • @lindsey4178
    @lindsey4178 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! I've wanted a tricolor jade for a long time and just ordered mine today! It should be here in 7 days and I'm really excited. I'm learning all I can BUT I'm not finding much about pruning from beginning to a large plant. I understand my jade needs to establish itself and find its own branching BUT when should I start pruning? Obviously that's a ways off for me, I'm only getting a 4 inch rooted plant but I'd love some "start to "finish" info. Also, what do you know about the different care for regular jade as apposed to verigated? I'd imagine it would need more sun without getting too much direct hot sun? I live in Texas so there is a BIG difference between direct sun and DIRECT sun. Lol. I don't know, but any info would be appreciated.

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      I would definitely let it grow for a couple seasons before you start thinking about pruning. Sometimes they will branch out in a beautiful structure naturally.
      I had a variegated jade a number of years ago but due to the amount of Jade's that I owned I had to get rid of a few. The variegated jade needs more light than your regular green variety because it has less chlorophyll ( green on the leaves) to photosynthesize. Now I can't speak for Texas sunlight... But if you're keeping it outside, definitely put it in full shade and slowly transition it to higher light. Same thing can be done for indoors but not necessarily needing full shade at the start. Give it a bright spot and slowly move it to direct sunlight

  • @GUPPYMOMCHANNEL
    @GUPPYMOMCHANNEL Рік тому +1

    Is the jade plant also a succulent, so it good for propagating leaf cuttings?🎄

  • @krisfarnsworth620
    @krisfarnsworth620 Рік тому +2

    My Golum Jade is chugging along, but doesn’t seem to grow “fast”… are you familiar with the different types of Jade? Curious if their speed of growth is different.
    Stay warm!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      The Gollum and regular Jade have similar growth rates I find, but they seem to grow 'slow' in the first couple years. After establishing a strong root system and annual pruning, the plant grows nicely and the trunk thickens.
      I did have a variegated one for a year, I think, and that one requires a ton of light. I didn't have that one long enough to know whether or not it has the same growth rate.

  • @beverlydeardurff5366
    @beverlydeardurff5366 Рік тому +1

    I've got two jade plants. One is still in it's plastic pot and it dries out very quickly. I need to plant it in another pot. I have many Terra pots. I've heard that it's best to report in the spring, but I've got to water it from the bottom because the water just flows through. Should I repot now or wait until spring? My other jade plant is potted in a Tera cota pot. I don't water them until the soil is completely dry. I've had it for several years and it still doesn't have any brown stems. It dropped leaves and they have started to propagate. Does pruning help the jade plant to develop brown stems?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      Here is a video on when to water your jades if you haven't seen it yet.
      ua-cam.com/video/SWQxbHEtqdE/v-deo.html
      Generally repotting should be done when the plant is growing, typically spring and summer, but I do repotting year round. If you can move the plant to brighter light in the winter or even add a grow light and will definitely help.
      The brown or woody stems come with age. Obviously brighter light will help the plant grow faster over time. Pruning doesn't help with woody stems specifically, but pruning does help with branching and trunk/stem thickness

  • @barhut2211
    @barhut2211 Рік тому +1

    Do you prune ripple jade plants the same way as you show in the video?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому +1

      I've never had one but I would assume it would respond the same

  • @davidhalley9795
    @davidhalley9795 10 місяців тому +1

    My jade plant isn't as old as yours but the leaves are droopy as well. I thought something was wrong. It's not is it?

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  10 місяців тому

      It might just be the weight pulling them down

  • @SmakerJAK
    @SmakerJAK 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi Jeff, I hope you can help. Our 20 year old jade plant has been doing well and we kept it outside for the summer, didn’t get it in fast enough and it started to look like it was dying. Leaves and branches started to brown and wilt. My partner went crazy with the pruning cutting everything off. It has no leaves at all now. Will more leaves grow from where it has been cut? Is there anything I can do to the soil to help it?
    Thanks
    Jack

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  7 місяців тому +1

      Hey. More leaves should sprout out of the nodes and eventually grow new branches. Feel free to serve a picture to my Instagram account too have a look

    • @SmakerJAK
      @SmakerJAK 7 місяців тому +1

      Oh good, that’s a relief. Thank you for the reply. We’ll definitely take more care of it now

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  7 місяців тому +1

      @@SmakerJAK make sure it gets good light while indoors. I always say your brightest window is the best spot. If it's not getting enough then give it a grow light!

  • @jacquideboard8454
    @jacquideboard8454 Рік тому +1

    This is so helpful! I’m terrible with plants and really want to learn. My husband brought home a dying jade plant from a friend and I’ve been able to get it to grow again after a year. Now it’s falling land in shapely. I thought I was supposed to give it support to grow up. Lol! Going to start chopping now!

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      The best way to strengthen the stem and branches is to prune plus it also promotes branching..... Let me know how your turning went and good luck! Thanks for watching my videos

    • @jacquideboard8454
      @jacquideboard8454 Рік тому

      I pruned that thing like it was my job! Hahaha! I wish it could post a picture on here! The video was extremely helpful and now I have 40 little starts! Haha

  • @pennymayo2332
    @pennymayo2332 Рік тому +1

    My jade plant has tiny white spots on the tops of leaves. I’ve washed it off and it comes back. Any ideas?

  • @4shore325
    @4shore325 Рік тому +3

    Hi Jeff, I had contacted you about 1 of my 2 larger jades, this is about the other one. It's about 17 years old and got really leggy and actually lost a LOT of leaves due to some root rot. When I got my plants back after my move, I wound up cutting some larger stems coming off the main trunk. I am (and the nursery person I showed pics to) think I caught it in time and the plant will be okay, time will tell. Anyhow, due to the overwatering the jade is tall and very leggy. Wish I would have waited a day as I pruned it back yesterday. I pruned back a lot of new growth, as you said the softer portions as well as some that were turning woody. I am hoping I will get leaf growth towards the center of the plant or that the stems will fill out more like it was prior to the overwatering issues. Should the plant start putting leaves out on the leggy portions of the stems or will the growth just be on the ends? I do have a lot of new growth started on some of leggy branches but still has a lot of bareness I recently added plant lights. I will be repotting with new soil back into the same pot in the spring as it's been probably 3-5 years since it's been done. Thanks.

    • @montanaholley4776
      @montanaholley4776 Рік тому +1

      Pruning does nothing for root rot. It's the infected roots, stems and soil that needs to go. Propagate your cuttings and start fresh, be sure to thoroughly clean the pot.

    • @4shore325
      @4shore325 Рік тому +2

      @@montanaholley4776 I should have said that I believe I caught in time. The stems that were bad were cut off at the main trunk. There was minimal spotting in the wound track of the main trunk. Clean wound sites with hydrogen peroxide. The upper cut stems showed no discoloration in the wound track. Showed a pic to local nursery personnel and she believes I may have caught in time. Plant is thriving with the grow light and has sporadic new growth however still bare towards the center of the whole plant. Best way to describe is a tree leafing out in spring after a few weeks. Wasn't sure if pruning would promote new growth along the stems closer to the trunk or if I would have to do more of a drastic pruning. Repotting will be in spring and I plan on putting back same pot, once thoroughly cleaned out and new soil. I let plant thoroughly dry out and have only watered 2x since late September. Plant is responding. Thx

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      Hello. You can send me a picture of the plant if you like. Typically if you prune, it will not push out new leaves or branches lower on the stem....generally just at the site or node where you made the prune. Now a time or two for me it has done this, but it is rare.

    • @4shore325
      @4shore325 Рік тому +2

      @@EverythingPlants Hi, I can send pics. Will need your email. Thx.

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      @@4shore325 everythingplantsca@gmail.com

  • @beckypackqualls2745
    @beckypackqualls2745 Рік тому +1

    Not sure this comment will be seen, but I’m dying to know! Since you just pruned yesterday, I’m hoping the answer is-it’s ok to prune a little more today?

  • @MarisaAndChew
    @MarisaAndChew Рік тому +1

    Your leaves "you calling me fat?"
    You "just thick"

  • @vivity01
    @vivity01 Рік тому

    Very informative but a little too slow and long for my short attention span. Can you show and explain the steamers?

  • @robertkattner1997
    @robertkattner1997 Рік тому +1

    The reason they droop is overwatering , root rot.

    • @EverythingPlants
      @EverythingPlants  Рік тому

      Yes, but I'm simply talking about a healthy plant that has too much weight on the leaves. Thanks for watching Robert