Are English Managers Any Good? | By The Numbers
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Managers have been in the news again, with nationality once more a focal point. Should English managers be given preference?
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Best English Manager?
Sir Alex Ferguson
alex is scottish m8
uMAXit Football Please do Tactics Explained: Lev Yashin and Soviet Union
Maybe redknapp
Sir Bobby Robson.
I continue to be amazed Howe - someone who has pretty much single handedly dragged his club from 4th tier to the top division and comfortably avoided relegation the first two seasons - is never linked with jobs such as Everton or West Ham. Especially as he prefers the style of play the bigger clubs like as opposed to Dyche/Allardyce's more direct tactics
Best english manager is between Eddie howe and Sean dyche. who I feel with better players they'd be doing a bit better. Though recently the cherries have struggled, we can't overlook their meteoric rise to being a "mid-table" club in the prem
Niyi Iyanda that's what we thought about moyes in 2013 (yes I know he's Scottish not English). He got a chance a big club and he flopped. Let's not forget Rodgers (Welsh) at Liverpool.
thedd dd damn that's true though 😂😂😂
English managers are less successful because most of them concern with strictly organisation, Eddie Howe is the only manager who closer resembles to the managers at top clubs, but doesn't have the resources to make his playing style successful at the foot of the table
Sean Dyche is the best English manager right now. His organisation has Burnley in 7th, 4 points above 10th placed, free-playing Huddersfield.
Alex Leopold the difference is Dyches football will never be accepted in clubs like Barcelona, bayern, psg, Liverpool or City... But Howe' s football will be.
Sure Eddie Howe is a nobody now. But if he were to get experience and same
With Dyche, you can bet top clubs will go for howe and not dyche.
Howe, Monk and Rodgers are 3 managers that had their teams playing footfall.
Why would top clubs not need a defensive strat as much as an offensive one? Case in point Barcelona are much more balanced this season and doing better despite losing Neymar and signing, shall we say only adequate replacements. For once they are playing with a cohesive team strategy, and it is yielding positive results.
He brought his fukin team to premier league all the way from 4th tier thats the most remarkable achievement achieved by any manager in a long time.
+S
Getting a club from the lower regions of the football league to a comfortable place in the premier league is an extremely tough task. Especially with the money they have spent. Howe is not overrated, clearly. He deserves every bit of praise he gets. Whats more likely is that you're a dumb version of a bigot and an absolute dipshit. What are you comparing/measuring him against when you say he is overrated? You have zero perspective.
This is great but the bigger question is why do Premier League teams recycle the same horrible managers over and over again? Why do pardew and McClaren get jobs??
Mcclaren won the dutch league so how shite are they.
Because a lot of chairmen are lazy and don’t have a clear strategy in place. They just employ whoever’s nearest.
Because they are cheap.
Wouldn't it make more sense to judge british and foreign coaches against one another at the same club? like pardew and benitez at newcastle, harry and pochetino at spurs, big sam and slaven at west ham etc...?
DJ Syfa this is very true. are they actually not as good as other managers?
DJ Syfa yeah nice idea
Then you would have to compare the same set of players. Its too hard to compare. Say for Rafa team at Newcastle right now compare to the goal scoring machine of Pardew team a few years back.
Lol. They'd still lose to foreign managers even if that was done
But its impossible to do the same set of players even for the same manager because of the revolving door. but it would give a closer look surely.
Plus its not like deBoer is the worst manager ever but if you look at the stats alone he could be considered that.
The beauty of Eddie Howe is that he's an Englishman proving you can play offensive minded football with a bottom 6 budget. Should this be seen as ground breaking? Probably not, but relative to the English managers, it's a huge shift from the pragmatism of Allardyce, Pardew, Hodgson, Dyche, etc.
5 years later and this is even more correct
Naive way to compare them... I think British football stopped in time but comparing teams that spend 20x more in a transfer window than the other is unfair.
You can’t say English managers get overlooked when they simply aren’t qualified for the top jobs
I'll never understand how people can say that Brittish managers haven't been given a chance when 5 or 6 years Moyes got the United, Rodgers managed Liverpool and Tim Sherwood and Harry Redknapp both managed Spurs. Obviously if you're choosing between big Sam (who even West Ham fans wanted out when he was doing well cuz his football was so shit) or managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Mourinho etc. Managers who are simply just better managers.
Ryan Kirkpatrick What's more is that those managers at the top club have all had success outside of England and have a much vaster knowledge of tactics. Other than perhaps Howe, they are tactically outdated.
English managers aside from Howe in the premiership at present play horrible long ball style football. No big club will take a risk with even a British manager now after moyes’ disaster at United. Too big a gamble
Brendan Rodgers did well at Liverpool though....and Redknapp did well at spurs, sherwood and moyes appointments were shit choices that no one thought was a good idea in the first place
Ryan Kirkpatrick Rodgers isn't English
Xenophobia in something labelled the English Premier League? Heaven forbid.
What Sam Allardyce said was absolutely spot on. His reasons for saying it may have been self-serving but its nonetheless correct for all that.
Having national leagues, like having international teams, is absolutely pointless now the whole thing is a globalised entertainment (not sporting) industry based on nation states who are governed by political entities that use immigration policy as an exercise in human trafficking.
The whole thing is a joke.
uMAXit Football please do Tactics Explained: Lev Yashin and Soviet Union
Barça k19 Win and family get bread, lose and you will go to gulag.
They don’t play good football so why would a big club give them a chance? Brendan Rogers Swansea side played football so he got his chance, they don’t have the skill set to inspire more talented squads.
England is just hosting the World's Premier league. It is not the English who make that league tick, it is the collaboration with people from around the world that makes the EPL awesome. One nice thing of England though are the fans, they have a love unparalleled to any other nation.
Chris Wilder.
Won League Two in 2015-16 with 99 points with Northampton. Won League One in 2016-17 with 100 points with Sheffield United.
Currently 2nd in the Championship.
Okay hes British not English, but was a smart move of Brendan Rodgers to go up to Celtic. He'll continue to win a tonne of games/trophies and will eventually get offered a top English club again in a few years time.
Rodgers is Irish well he pretends to be anyway.
funny you say that.
This aged tremendously
I think a multiple linear regression analysis would be useful here. You could control for the historical quality of the teams, club turnover and so on. There are so many confounding factors here that your analysis is far too simple.
English Managers should try their luck outside Western Europe
Outside England would be a start! When Allardyce complained on TV, my first thought was 'there are 20 jobs in the premier league. TWENTY. It's fierce competiion. You need to widen your net.' You know, like all the foreign managers who came here have done. The same problems afflicts English managers as players - they just don't want to leave England. Look at Gaurdiola - managed in Spain, Germany and now England. Most other top managers have similar backgrounds. I know I'd rather pick someone with a bit of world-wide experience than someone whose career is a list of clubs around the Midlands.
ask Gary Neville..
Same with their players...
Neville got a HUGE job as his first managerial outing, he was bound to fail. The idea behind going abroad to prove yourself is to get experience with top flight football at a more manageable level, then work your way up. Start in Belgium or Scotland (like Slippy G) or something, then work your way to Germany or France, and THEN you can move on to Spain and England. That's if you want to be the manager right away, you can also work your way up from inside a big club as an assistant manager and then move on to being manager either at that same club or somewhere else. But the bottom line is that they need experience.
Why would they move their wife and maybe kids from the country they've lived in all their life to a different country where they can't speak the language? Football people are still people with friends and family
Technically you can have the USA mentioned via Wagner. Father was an American and played, albeit limited, with the USMNT.
The biggest obstacle to young British managers are older British managers with their outdated tactics. Young British managers are not given a chance because Premier League teams would rather go with the safety and security of The Old Guard
I think the words speak for themselves. In England there is the term ''manager'' when in rest of Europe is ''coach''. Is like comparing apples with oranges. Managers are better on finding new talents, financial control and act more like technical directors when coach is more like a tactical role
Ane Ro I live in America and I've never called them coaches unless it's at a high school level in which my "coach" staff was comprised of some guy that bowled and a firefighter so they weren't much involved. Regardless, at the professional level I've never called a manager a coach.
Mick Manley in America the game is not even called "football" but "soccer"!! 😁😁 i ve mentioned specifically Europe!
FALSE a coach is more for training while a manager is more for tactic
I would also like to add the tremendous work that the management at Swansea is doing. It's clear to me that they want their team to play in a more modern way and whatever manager they get in has to work with that when implementing their ideas.
It's honourable, it really is, and I hope nothing will change that mentality of theirs.
Well....
were the three managers you didn't talk about bob bradley, frank de boer, and pepe mel?
This is one of your best ever. Nice one.
They need to improve on the managers schools, starting in 2nd devision is a good idea, or start managing the academies teams. Going abroad after getting some expirience, Eddie Howe should do that, learning from diferent kinds of football culture. It's maybe the only country where foreneirs managers have way more sucess. Spain has some few good ones too but not all of them get to be sucessfull for so many years like in England.
Would you guys be able to do a video on Valencia's season so far? Their tactics compared to last season mainly.
Thanks!
uMaxit Football please do tactics explained Hassan Shahata and the egyptian team that won 3 back to back AFCONS
They do get top jobs, they fail every time: Hodgson was a disaster at Liverpool, lowered their win percentage to one of the lowest in recent history. Tim Sherwood and Harry Redknapp were nowhere near Pochettino at Spurs. Moyes (not English, but of the same mould) was horrendous at Man U and later in Spain.
please do a video of how moyes will manage west ham and his tactics
You need to include Hughton at British/English. He was born in England, sounds like a Londoner but played for Ireland.
Last English manager to win England's top flight was Howard Wilkinson with Leeds 91/92. Which also means no English manager has won the PL, founded for the 92/93 season.
The problem with English coaching and players for that matter is that it is neither tactical or innovative. English football on the grassroots level is in the dark ages. Thinkers are scarce so it’s no surprise we don’t have a Guardiola, Tuchel, Pochettino etc....
Football is constantly changing, English football is hundreds of steps behind the likes of Germany and Spain. That has to be down to the FA not investing in the right areas.
Missing factors like money spent and wages of players compared to points taken. Also, previous record of the club before they were hired as well. Did the club improve over the last manager or not?
English managers don't speak any other language and they find difficult to connect and adapt in different environment, so that might be one of the reason but overall it all about understanding the game.
English people generally can't speak any language other than English.
3:50 that spanish flag you used is Franco's dictatorship flag...
I think what's going on here is that england has just not produced a very good manager in a while. It's not that english managers per se are some how distinct from other managers, it's just that there is a dearth of talent at the moment. I think Sir Alex Ferguson is probably good enough evidence that a British manager can be excellent, sohpisticated etc. I think it's rarely accurate to try and impose specific characterisitcs onto broad classes of people. Love the videos been subscribed for a year now.
Dyce has the potential 5to be a good manager like Martin ONEILL, how's rise from Wycombe to Leceister and achieved relative success/stability with them. Clubs should take a gamble and show patience with managers who bring small clubs up and stabilise them and eventually pulling off good one off results against big teams.
They also perhaps need to be finishing top of the rest in 7/8th
The comparison is only fair if you compare English managers to foreign managers outside the top 6
This makes no sense. England is tiny compared to the world. But England is the biggest league with the most money competing in the world market. Obviously the clubs will go for the best they can find. The chance they will be English and be the best will be fairly low.
Did you ever make a video on Why Tottenham got rid of Harry Redknap?
I thought Mark Hughes was from Wales? Ryan Giggs had a stint at Man Utd Coaching so would he be part of your numbers?
Dyche's sketch makes it seem like he has vampire teeth
Chris Hughton should be considered a British manager. Born in England. Has a British passport. Is a British citizen. So what if he played football for the Irish national team and so what if Wikipedia only says hes Irish. He's not only Irish, he's also British.
Revisiting this we see that West Brom went down, Stoke City went down,Swansea went down. Leicester made a change and Everton stole watford's coach So Dyche and Howe are the only two.
Brendan Rodgers is one of the best young managers in the game and he couldn't get a job in England after he left Liverpool.
English manager arent succesful because a majority are still stuck in the past. always thumping the ball long, relying on goals from corners and only caring about players with speed and physicality and not technique and vision. only english manager that i rate is eddie how, he always sets up his teams to play football and actually pass the ball around and create instead of route 1 football. with a top 7 club he would definitely be succesful.
"with a top 7 club he would definitely be succesful." if you have to add that, then they aren't really that good a manager
Unless you're Pochettino or Wenger 2006-2013, wage bill is almost always the biggest indicator of team success.
The lack of decent English managers will continue all the while FA coaching badges are so ridiculously expensive. We are miles behind Spain and Germany but still have nowhere near as many qualified coaches as they do.
That analysis isn't very good from a statistical point of view... There is enough data manipulation and ignorance of profound correlations to support the reasoning. But to be fair, their point of view is quite indisputable (and those videos are really good).
There are many, many more non-English than English coaches in the world, and the Premier league is one of, if not the most prestigious football league in the world.
So it attracts exceptional coaches.
If, despite this, English bosses still had comparative stats in the league, now *that* would actually be surprising. The status quo isn't.
Paul Clement is a brilliant manager and has the experience to manage the big 6
Surely the 'points per game' calculation is incorrect. An average of 1 point per game is usually borderline relegation (38 points from a 38 match season), so why are all of the PPG values below 1 for all of the managers?
It's 2019 now and the Premier League only has 5 British managers left (counting Hughton who was born in England). Not a single one of them sits in the top half of the league at the moment, and Neil Warnock's Cardiff is in the relegation zone. The only one of them that plays attractive modern football is Eddie Howe, while the rest play turgid long ball football. That's the real reason no British managers ever succeed, only a handful of them play an attractive style, and those who do tend to do so at lower sides where they're eventually sacked and disappear. Like what happened with Gary Monk. Gerrard over at Rangers is probably the only up and coming English manager apart from Howe, and God knows when he'll actually get a chance in the PL.
Top 3 ever
Clough
Robson
Howe
Harry Redknapp is the best English manager.
Arsenal still 4th
nope
manger Inho most underrated manger in world football...
Jimmy Conrad Jr well he did lose against Rotherham and Krasnodar and is performing shit at Milan. So maybe not underrated
Do english managers go abroad guys like pep Mourinho and conte have all enjoyed success in numerous other leagues before landing big money premiere league gigs but I dont see english managers winning treble in Spain and Germany before getting to the premier league
Do a video on Sean Dyche's Burnley
+Kumarjit Banerjee anyone else up for seeing this?
uMAXit Football I bet there are many who wanna see a video on Burnely's rise after Sean Dyche took charge of the club...
Until an English manager develops a short passing based game, and he has excellent tactical acumen then they will always be poor. The closest English manager to this was Glenn Hoddle, but he was flawed.
lmao and they say Jose Mourinho can only park the bus. His goal difference ratio is only second to Pep and higher than Wenger
I think English managers would be more successful if they were bilingual. Jose Mourinho speaks 6 languages, Pep and Ancelotti speak 4. It'd be a huge advantage
Hodgson speaks 5 ...
The answer is 'No'. The question is 'why'?
A bit too reliant on statistical data, but a good analysis nonetheless
BTW, you're PL points per game stats are wrong and don't make sense... every managers record is less than 1! I think you've given their ppg as a % of the maximum points avaliable (3)... eg. Conte has a ppg of 2.33, but as a proportion of 3 it would 0.78 ( as you have shown).
Why did they put franco spanish regime flag with the eagle, instead of the current one?
Not sure how you arrived at those points per game, but they're all 1/3 of what they should be.
plz provide English subtitles with all these videoz
Sams comment is not bizzarre. The EPL and to a Lesser extent The Championship are dominated by star managers who are foreign and star players who are foreign.
One year sample size inadequate; pointless stat. But there's no reason to believe an English boss would do any better than a foreign boss would. Especially given the poor level of expertise from manager/pundits at an average EPL game studio. Strachan is someone I listen carefully though(if he is to be included as an English-man.).
4.19 But That's the point. Why do they pick Foreigners instead?
There must be a reason why English Managers are not as good as foreign managers.. is it a cultural difference that makes the English Manager shit.... hardly any English player goes abroad to play or coach and if they did it might’ve broadened their horizons and see another world of football gaining vastly..... where as non English players have the balls to move abroad thus gaining valuable lessons which helps mould them into having more insight
Holy fuck I went into this video thinking ‘don’t be stupid, look at pochetino, I’d say he’s amongst the top three managers in the league and he’s English.’ HE’S GODAMN ARGENTINIAN? Anyways, I think the future is bright for English managers, or at least, two managers in particular. Dyche has been a manager for less than 10 years and seems to have planted Burnley as a solid premier league team it seems. Eddie Howe is just on another level, doing the same but rather than with a championship side like Dyche, with a fucking league two side. If a big club is in need of a manager, and Bournemouth do a Leicester and sack Howe, I think they would be insane to not take a leap of faith and let howe take the reigns. McLaren and Pardew however are fucking scam artists that no premier league team should ever consider hiring.
Gary Neville best English manager
GRAHAM POTTER
Why point per game is less than 1 for every team? That is impossible
Surely those point per game stats are wrong, 0.78ppg being the best is obviously not right! That would be like winning the league with 30 points..
ARE ENGLISH PLAYERS ACTUALLY GOOD should be your next video
English Managers are better at dodging the law than they are at winning matches.
So moral of the story is we are shit there is no hope let’s kill ourselves? 🤔
English managers don't take risks.
How about the English player?
English managers don't seem enjoy the excitement of deploying different tactics..or Maybe they only know how to play the old traditional football
the problem with this is that the English managers have pretty much only been in charge of teams that are middle table or below standards so isnt as fair comparison
Would points per £ spent be a better comparison?
Best managers are either Italian or German.
Sopa Diaz Blanc and Zidane and Wenger are French. Alex Ferguson was Scottish. Pep is Spanish. Mourinho is Portuguese. You actually don't know what you're talking about.
It's not so much that British managers are shit as much as it is British clubs are not well run merely relying on the successful sale of the league to maintain their place as top businesses (rather than clubs). There was a time when the same failed but well known managers were rotating around the club's bringing nothing to the league or their clubs. As for Allardyce and his attritional 80s style approach which probably did more for clubs seeking foreign coaches than anything else......
Says it all when they made Allardyce England Manager...!!!
English Managers are not good enough in England....FACT...
ENGLISH football is English only in Name...!!!
Sir Alex Ferguson the greatest British manager
I'll save you all the time and effort... "Fuck no" 😂
First time I've ever disliked one of your videos, your comparisons made no sense... There are dozens of ways to do it better, although not necessarily with a different result.
There is such a xenophobic undertone whenever this discussion is had. We just give it a pass because we see it as harmless...but just imagine this being the conversation at you and i's ordinary workplace..how quickly we will get fired for suggesting that jobs need to go to native born people by default and not the more qualified regardless of nation or creed. It always makes me uncomfortable when I see them having this convo on the tele
Actually in most countries, when companies want to hire foreigners they have to show authorities that they lack enough qualified applicants.
Why are England managers so bad? Like I can’t even name one that has had success outside of England. They need to ‘widen their net’ get some experience somewhere other than England. Look at Guardiola, the guy has managed in Spain, Germany and England.
allardyce is right though watching other foreign games like in the CL isn't as exciting/interesting no more cus we got 90% of foreigners here anyway, the EPL has lost its identity just like the UK itself
Problem with English footballing philosophy is reliance on physic. English fans and English culture is obssessed with end to end games which makes a lot of English coaches concetrate on height, speed and stamina. How often do you see a tall player straight away pointed to be a centre back and how often does a small 5 foot 7 man told that he is to small to be a centre midfielder. Lets compare England to some of the best international sides in world of football in last 20 years: Brazil, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland even Belgium and Frarnce etc... Now what is the main difference between them and England 1. Tactical awarness look at Germans and Italians who are known for their tactical upbringing which in hand bring a lot of managers because of high level of tactical study. 2. Technique lets compare to Spain, Brazil, Holland and even Germany again. English players are indeen talented players techniqlie when compared to the rest of the world but when compared to the top Teams they are not on the same level. Now but why does England than do so well in qualifiers? The reason for that is because with good technique and good but not excellent tactical awarness with top quality phisical attributes England bullies smaller countries. When it comes to TOP competitions and finals like world cup is where Englands weakness of tactical awarness and lack of magicaly technical players who can drag the game out of a draw to a win is shown. The main points are forgotten that this is a game played with your head using your feet ..... only than do you need the strength, speed, height etc
Well dyche is just a younger tony pulis
Laurence's Daddy hahaha
I'd say more like a ginger jose mourinho
He’s only done it at the one club though so far
Yes i agree, English managers are being overlooked especially by the big teams. Premier League has become such a global brand that every big teams start to find a way on how to increase their 'global appeal' by recruiting foreign players and foreign managers
I normally love your videos but this is by far the least statistically robust and I would go as far to say misinformed. Firstly, Allardyce basically only takes over teams who are bottom or close to the bottom of the league a few games into a season. He has never been relegated and has kept very poor sides in the premier league on numerous occasions. Howie and Dyche have taken very small clubs from the lower levels of English football to mid table in the premier league. I assumed this video would be based on the statistics used in many popular football books such as the percentage over/under achievement of a mangers compared to the teams expected wins/points based on salary. That is a much much better way to rate a manager than raw win percentage. Even the expected vs achieved statistic is flawed but it is far less flawed that raw win percentage. At least it would account for the English managers not being at the clubs who aren’t expected to average 66% wins but the clubs that are expected to average 33% wins or less. Regardless the stats I have mentioned may show that English mangers do indeed underperform and that foreign mangers are indeed better but given the stats you have shown I doubt you can conclude anything worthwhile.
Like in the Philippines, I guess English managers in football seemed a lesser popular in big leagues unless someone shines. I just hope that someone can in the near future.
No
Isn't david Wagner American
Dad is American, Mother is German
Yes they suck. Since that English football changed to the premier league, no english manager was ever champion, so yheah they suck a lot... That's why England National Squad always have poor campaigns in international competitions. THE BEST MANAGERS ALL COME FROM SOUTH EUROPE - ITALY, SPAIN AND PORTUGAL !