How I make a SIMPLE DIY fence
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- In this video I’m showing you my approach to making a simple British fence. You see this open board design all around the UK - no idea how popular it is in other parts of the world. The advantage being the open board design lets wind pass through so it puts less strain on the posts. This is a SIMPLE fence but it does the job if it’s not in a too exposed location. Obviously you can push this as far as you want if budget permits.
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6 foot tall and 8 metres long. Doesn't get more British than that :)
😂😂 it is so true though
@@yastech7183 It's made me realise how much I do exactly this. "This screw is 27cm down so I need to raise the post an inch" Who says we Brits can only speak one language? :D
So British it took me a while to work out why it was British.
Australian too.
Mines a pint of lager then 50mls of scotch
I really appreciate your on-screen annotations, they answer so many potential questions before they even need asking.
Two things-. I would put a gravel board along the bottom (150x25 timber) this can touch the ground and be replaced if it rots and the main fence is up and dry. Second is to use feather edge board to make it a closed fence. It would probably be cheaper as the timber is thinner and each screw holds in two boards where they overlap.
I need to get a post hole spade. Nice bit of kit!
But then I am down south and we don't like to talk to our neighbours!
I’ve understood that when you set posts in concrete to leave the bottom ends exposed. Possibly in gravel or loose medium. This allows water to drain out of the post into the ground. Encapsulating the post in concrete traps the water and causes premature rot.
Sadly you are 💯% correct. I'm surprised he didn't work this out.
I'll bet your neighbors luv u! Cleaning up all the overgrowth & putting in a nice fence for the privacy said overgrowth provided. 🌹 I do like the "rock garden" at the end, it looks intentional & natural at the same time.
Ha ha there's lots of log piles and little animal shelters all over the place. 😁
Great tip, when digging holes, have a bunch of builders buckets or a larger mortar bucket so as you are throwing the earth off the spade you chuck it direct into the bucket rather than it collecting in the ground, that way it's a much easier clean up of the excavated soil
I never thought I would have gotten so excited about a Geordie knocking up a fence, yet i just have done so. Keep up the great work, I'm loving this renovation.
Like that idea about
Bitumen paint and chamfer on top of posts.
I like to leave a decent gap between the fence and ground, and dig a small trench a couple of inches deep along the fence and fill it with gravel. This lets rainwater run down the fence and off the bottom and drain into the ground, the gap prevents water from being drawn up from the soil through the end grain causing rot.
Gravel board then.
Was abiut to ask about that but you answered perfectly
Certainly an option! This fence is about 3cm shy of the ground. 👍
That postcrete is terrific stuff. Another brilliant post. Thanks.
That's a lovely looking fence. I'm sat here watching it with my 7yr old daughter and she says "your fence is looking nice and lovely". Cheers Andy!
Aw, thank you! Tell your daughter Andy Mac says hi! 👍😁
Ha! I’m doing 172ft of fencing tomorrow for a family member - this video has confirmed I was spot on with everything! Thank god for that haha
@@creamwobbly Klingon for the rest
If I did 172ft I would be doing the whole street.
172ft! Oh no, good luck!! But yes, that's 52m. 😉
@@GosforthHandyman 8am-4pm, half way and halfway dead - no good on your own🤣😭🤮
First video on fencing where I haven’t taken o-ffence to the workmanship, well done sir
Ha ha thank you!
I really like your attention to detail on explanation. About 10 mo ago, I built a fence, and did some things similar. Wood was already getting expensive, and hard to get today. My post setting probably took much longer as referenced position from a string close to the ground, pre-mixed concrete, and leveled individually. Also, the treated posts were extra long so I could go 3ft deep, and cut the top to height later. All other lumber was fresh sawn western cedar (in in Oregon). I like you do 3-rails as a lot of people only do two. The other difference, I used metal hangers in between. Hind sight, makes it more difficult if I have to replace a post later. I’m letting the cedar naturally gray. Instead of screws, I used galvanized ring shank nails using my coil nailer. I would have preferred stainless, but cost was an issue. Again, thanks for the details. You do a great job and give great advice.
It’s looking good Andy. A couple of days hard work, coupled with patience and expertise. I love your videos and thank you for sharing. 🌞
Cheers Ray!
Hi Andy, I have a caravan at Frosterley and wood rote there faster than you can put it in. I use concrete posts that I make myself as it is cheaper and better quality than store bought ones, it makes it difficult to attach the wood rails but I now am a dab hand at putting the plastic conduit into the forms so that I can use bolts to fasten the rails onto. This is the best way of stopping rot and I use my laser level to set them, laser levels are so cheap now that everyone should have one, even those like me that only do this as a hobby.
Hi Andy ☺nice job mate, can't wait to see you nearly falling in the cut / moat,,lol.,thanks for another great video, stay safe mate, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.
This whole episode had a feel of Gardeners World about it (in a good way!) contrast in style to the digging up the concrete floor episode I’ve just watched! Nice to have these changes in tempo
Great work and much sturdier than the fence some "professionals" recently installed for me. I think I would have put gravel at the base of the posts though (to avoid possible risk of standing in a well of trapped water over time).
Cheers! The base of each post is encapsulated in concrete 👍
@@GosforthHandyman OK but the point I was making is that inevitably over time water will seep down between the wooden post and the concrete around it. If there is gravel at the base it then has a way to drain away.
What a lovely fence 😃 fences should all be like this to let wind through too..
Cheers! 👍
Great job - it looked good in the end
OK for a quick simple fence! 😁
Screen says "this wouldn't work in bright sunlight". Good thing you're in UK than! 🇬🇧👍😂
Yeah, fine in the UK. 😂
"This wouldn't work in bright sunshine"
Not a problem we have in Northern England very often lol
Yeah, it's worked every time to be honest. 😂
The laser is gold for setting posts, but I also used it as a survey level to assess the height differences of my garden to work out the heights of a retaining wall and how deep to dig away to level the garden in front of that wall, to do this I made a rigid centimeter stick from a 2 meter piece of wood with cm indents made with a sharpie.
Only disadvantage of the DIY laser levels is their limited reach in bright light as you mentioned, on a normal cloudy day the reach is around 5-10meters depending on the kind of laser you have.
To do the surveying I had to go out after sunset when the light was dimming, then a reach of about 20 meters is possible.
Absolutely love your vids...just had to say. You demystify everything and take the fear out of jobs like this that regular folk can tackle themselves. Hope you keep up the good work.
Thank you and glad you find the vids useful!
The best hole digging video I've ever seen...the fence is nice too...
Gotta love digging holes!
Really enjoyable video as ever, always is when someone else is doing the work 🤣 One thing that I would be interested in is the age old arguement of who gets the best side of the fence, you as your paying for it or the neighbour as a gesture. For me it is as you did it but I know many would give the good side to the neighbour.
I'm doing a featherboard fence shortly, and giving the neighbours the good side to compensate for the extension we had built (not that it bothered them though!). But also because on our side I'm building a deck and will then be using nice horizontal slats to create a nicer effect on our side of the fence to cover up the frame work! 👍🏻
Nice fence but it really should have a horizontal gravel board at bottom , keeps the rest of boards off ground and when it rots you've only got a few boards to replace instead of every board rotting at bottom
The pickets aren't touching the ground. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman fair enough mate , fencings about half my work so couldn't help chipping in 🙂 again , nice job and good work on channe in generall , I've learnt a few things on here
All this talk of who owns the fence and which side is better is quite interesting to me. In my part of Australia, the fence is owned by both neighbours and both are responsible for it. They have to agree on what type and when to build/repair/replace it, though this can take some doing! Many people see the rail side as the 'better' side as your neighbour can't easily climb the fence and see what you're doing in your garden.
It can vary by property over here. These are shared boundaries so you need to chat with the neighbours before doing anything. But normally the deeds specify who is responsible for the boundary. 👍
Might have been easier to go to the tap 😂😂 love the videos everytime i watch i feel my diy skills getting more confident
Thank you! Yeah, I genuinely nearly got stuck down at the river. That bank is steeper than it looks! 😂
@@GosforthHandyman so next vid is a set of steps down to the river ?
I’ve always thought of that style of fencing as ‘pallet fencing’.
Going to be starting about 25m or so of 5ft, concrete post & gravel board, timber panel fencing at my house sometime next week. Praying for the weather to improve.
I'll be doing the same spec and size of fence as you this summer.
I do like Andys type better but its more work and i do wonder if its more expensive than concrete posts and pre made panels.
Great stuff! Only tricky thing with pre-made panels is getting the post spacing exactly right. That can be really tricky, especially on your own. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman good point Andy but my way around that problem was to use a gauging rod but I've seen people fit a post and then a panel as the spacer then the next post. We'll see this summer 🙄
Nice job - I envy how quick you dug each hole. Mine took an average of 3 hours each (clay and flint) first 100 mm easy peasy - the rest long chisel bar and a maul - only had 24 to dig so it was like aversion therapy.
Divv'ent get deFENCEive but I like galvanised clout nails to mount the pickets. Tis a thing of beauty though. Well done.
Thank you! I find screws easier but personal preference. 👍😁
Brilliant video Andy, thanks
Jacket back on in May Andy? Bloody cold 🥶 down south today, blowin’ its bum off. Like your take on a fence
Tell me about it! That was back in Feb, didn't think I'd still have the jacket on in May! 🙄😁
Great video, just one small thing I would have done would to be stagger the joints in the rails, other than that brilliant workmanship, I love people who take pride in their work.
Not sure how that would work without incredibly long rails? 🤔😁
He means you cut half a length off the middle rail when you start. So rail 1 and 3 end on post no.3 but rail 2 ends/stars on post no.2.
Great job Andy...Thats a might fine fence...Nice one
Cheers bud! 👍
Good instruction. No prizes for speed tho....😂 keep’em coming
If I rush I injure myself, simple as. 😂
i loved my old red trusty hilti for digging
Fencing n sheds , love em 👍👍
Gotta love them!
I've really enjoyed watching your videos it's not how I'd do things but doesn't mean your wrong I guess lol personally I'd put first post in and last then string line the others. I'd also never laser line the posts I'd wait until the level rails were on and measure up and cut then.
Exemplary as ever...some great music too....Ta!
Cheers Martin! 👍
Great explanation on making a tall fence really well. Thank you. I look forward to the series on terracing steps down to the river (and back up!). The neighbour must be happy even though it's made their strip of British fence defunct...
Ha ha, yes - I must sort that river access 😂😂
wish I used your idea of a g-clamp and wood when positioning.
Got my seven panels up in the end but it was a bit of a flaff with the posts to get the positioning correct. grr
Cheers - yeah, works really well! 👍
Interesting, entertaining, informative and good videography and commentary.
The posts of the new fence are on the neighbour's side while the post on the other side of your garden are on your side. So who owns the new fence that you just spent effort and money in erecting (please refer to the deeds)? If it is your neighbour then surely the entire fence; posts, rails and boards, should be on you neighbour's side of the boundary line which you established and agreed?
Cheers Charles! Think it varies by region. Around here whoever pays for it / builds it gets the face side, otherwise I'd have to build the fence from the neighbours garden. It's a shared boundary but all pre-agreed. 👍
The face of a fence marks the boundary and should go on the outside of the owners boundary. Your neighbours have just acquired a new fence and a bit more land. That said it is usual on terraced houses with gardens to have side of the garden yours and the other side you neighbours. Learnt all this doing my City & Guilds Carpentry and Joinery.
In the process of replacing my rear garden fence but done with wooden posts as a waste of time and money in the long run, going with plastic decking as gravel boards, the wood ones seem to warp over time. The fence should be a completed boundary so I would be kicking off if I was your neighbour!! :o)
Andy, judging by the pretreatment on the bottom of those posts, they didn’t go into the ground very deep? Six foot fence I’d expect to see around two foot of post in the ground, i.e. an eight foot post for a six foot fence. Anyway, I’m really enjoying this series on the new-old house. Cheers.
About a foot and a half in the ground but with the bell bottom it ain't budging. Very sheltered spot. 👍
Exactly what I was also thinking lol
@@GosforthHandyman what kind of pretreatment you had done on the bottom of your posts? I am about to build my fence I would like to treat my posts too. Thank you
Great video, awesome series 👍
Cheers bud!
i would get a couple of metres done and break down crying about how much timber costs :-)
Tell me about it Glen! It's crazy how expensive a little project like this is. 😂
Nice work as usual
Cheers!
Good for you for mixing the cement.
Ta! Was readymix concrete mind. 😁
We call them good neighbor fences. They work quite well.
Isn't a good neighbour fence one with a 'pretty' side both sides, or one that has been erected with the good 'pretty' side facing the neighbour? This is neither of those :D
Does the job! 👍😁
@@rattyvulcan1207 the good neighbor fences over here typically have a six foot span of vertical boards that face one property. Then the next six foot span of boards faces the other property. That way, neither home has all the “ugly” side facing them. I think the reason they are called “good neighbor” is because both home owners split the cost of fencing, either paying someone or doing it themselves. Some people will put up their own fencing and face all of the boards toward their property., paying for all of it themselves. I don’t know what the technical name is for other types of fencing is, but I think most of us here call all fencing between neighbors, good neighbor fences. Probably because they all help towards creating good neighbors, right?
@@joannbirdsong583 thanks for shedding light on what happens over the pond. Fences in the UK tend to be one sided, and the 'pretty' side goes to your neighbour by default if you follow polite practice but there's no real obligation. Like you I'd like to think fences create good neighbours, but boundary disputes are common over here, probably because our houses are close together and gardens small - circle back to my point about polite practice here.
Do I have a house to renovate? No. Do I have a garden? No. Do I watch every video religiously anyway? Yes.
Aw thank you! Glad you're enjoying the vids Joanna! 👍👍
Looks good - I hate fencing even more than sanding or grouting. Ref the use of the laser, your ground must be pretty level to start with. If I did that here the post at the bottom of the garden would be 12ft high 😂
Ha yes, luckily in this area the ground was very level 👍
Hi Andy, new to your channel and I believe quite local to you. I use Brunswick fencing, think you can guess where thay are lol. Good luck on the rest of your journey with wat is going to be one good home.
Ps I work in feet and mm as well
It looks more than alright.
Cheers Tahir! 👍👍
Hi Andy, isn’t there some rule or protocol about installing the fence so that the more aesthetic side faces your neighbours property (ie the posts and rails should be facing the side of the fence of the property that is responsible for the fence)?
I was just scanning through the comments to see if anyone else had made this comment, and if you hadn't written this 5 minutes before me, I would have done so. I would be interested to hear Andy's response to this. Perhaps it is only local by-laws in certain parts of the country?
Urban myth, just like ownership of the fence on the left as you exit rear of property.
@@darland3821 It's not an urban myth, it is in fact considered polite to erect the fence with the good side facing your neighbour but you're not obligated to do so - unless of course you live in a property that is in a Conservation Area, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB) or a listed building where restrictions could apply.
It seems to be a weird convention if different parts of the country. Makes no sense as I'd then have to build it from the neighbour's side. 👍
@@GosforthHandymanWell, in some circumstances it makes sense. For instance when building a fence which borders onto a public right of way. Ot if your neighbours have children, and you don’t want them standing on the cross beams and chatting to you! Just a couple of examples of many I can think of. And then there is courtesy.
Fencing contractors must hate these videos, no way would they ever cover a post in bitumin paint or slope the concrete away, they're all about getting it up and getting down the pub 😉
Yeah they're about 10x faster than me! 👍😁
Good job again but I'd go for annular nails for the pailings I think they split less 👍
Defo an option! I prefer screws. These are self drilling so no splitting. 👍
Hi Andy, when can we see the next episode on the sound studio? You're holding-up my build!
Ha ha, it will be a little while 'cause there's a massive delay on doors and windows and it's doing my head in. 👍😂
@@GosforthHandyman I got a steel ultra heavy door from Lathams. Wooden fire door to sit inside of that with a 6 inch "air lock"
Fence building would be fun if someone else dug the post holes or got rid of the rotten old posts and left nice clean holes. Besides the holes the job's a doddle!
Yeah, the hole digging is never fun.
I use metal fence post spikes all that digging all that concreting still up after 25 years
That was very interesting but quite relaxing to watch you install this fence in this particular way! Very different technique to us but same result!
Could I ask what mic you use when you are away from the camera because we need a couple of those!
Cheers bud! Great channel btw! It's a little Shure MVL lav mic and I use a Zoom recorder. It's a bit of an old-school way of doing things but it's the best way to get decent audio when you're not near the camera - made a vid about it a while back: ua-cam.com/video/rZSg5O_4xpA/v-deo.html - I think Rode now do a nice little clip-on wireless lav mic that can connect to your camera, but haven't tried it. 👍
It’s much easier if your using postcrete to set your first post then string a line to a temporary post the other end then use your rails to set the distance between the posts as you go.
Agreed. But you do have to have bought the rails for that 😁
Yup defo an option!
7:38 Beech I think, especially if it tends to hang on to its autumn leaves until new ones arrive in spring (whenever that is!)
Possibly! 👍
Ash tree🙂
Would you consider using nails, or are screws best?
I love it ♥️
Cheers Laura! 👍
You can’t build a 6’ fence using a Gosforth Handyman tape measure. You can only build a 1.83m fence.
A very valid point! That would be an even better fence. 👍😁
How deep were the post holes? My top tip for digging holes is to use crow bars - you get a hole just the right size which reduces waste and minimises your postcrete. But I've only repaired fences. 75mm posts easy to handle and 100mm much heavier as you say. Godfathers?
Holes were about the depth of my spit and a half. 😁
Proper job
Cheers! 👍
Won't your laser level method only work on a perfectly level garden? I though the best method was to put posts in at both ends of the run, and then run a string line across the top?
no just keep the laser in the same place and rotate it if you need to. Or you get the height from the last post like he did.
Do you always level your fences?What do you do when the land is on a slope I was always taught to follow the land.
Yeah, you need to make a judgement call depending on what's practical and looks best. The land was level here so easy decision.
Hi Andy......Great looking fence. Could I ask what stain you used on the posts plz?
Great Job Andy. I am going to build my fence tomorrow (bought my timber last year) because it is raining today in Gosforth.
Good luck on your fence build! Bit better weather today! 👍
Proper old school: fence post cut on slope to allow rain to run off, fence post hidden behind fence slat and greasing screws. Separates the men from boys
i like the Galanthus by the stream
Snowdrops? Got bluebells there now too! 👍
What are the indectations in the post for? Something to do with the wood treatment?
Looks great! I think it's called hit and miss fencing. It's especially good for storms as the wind has those gaps to escape through.
Ah cool! Never heard it called that but you could be right! 👍👍
@@GosforthHandyman I think hit and miss has staggered boards either side, so you can't look directly through, but can on the diagonal.
I very much enjoy watching your videos, especially as I also live in Gosforth. However i am interested in what gear you use to record your vids?
no gravel board?
Wouldn you ever use nails for a fence? As in with a nail gun? Or is it screws always?
If I had a framing nailer I would have used that, but I don't. 👍😁
How deep did you have to go with those holes? I have to replace about 40m of 2,4m high fence here which is going to fall over in one of the next storms. Norway being Norway however I need to go at least 1m deep. Any tips on how to dig those holes ?
Ash Tree in the corner. Keep and eye out for dieback
Hi m8 love the videos keep up the hard work. Try west sleekburn timber mill at cambios they are much cheaper than wickes and bnq for timber and not too far from you
Cheers! Will check them out! Especially since everywhere seems to be running out of wood! 😁
Or Brunswick Fencing nr Wideopen.... my go-to for fencing timber.
@@MrIncredible71 iv seen the vans. Ill have a look at them. Cheers m8
Nice fence Andy....but don't ever ask me if you can borrow my clamps...
Lol - they cleaned up fine! But yes, not for your best clamps. 😁
Looks good but why did you use wooden posts , concrete never rots and they are cheaper overall than wood .
Awesome work my Geordie friend 👍 can i ask why you didn't use a nail gun?
great job Andy and great video
Cheers bud!
Are you using featherboards?
Hi i think that your style of fence is called Palisade, always recall from my estimator days ( back in the 1970/80 ) local authorities would be trying to find savings , feather edge and close boarding prices would be the usual but fencing contactors would offer palisade as a saving. Another observation, the board fixing should be towards your property which was how the boundary ownership was established ? as I say an observation not a criticism.
ive been doing this for years posts all ways rot first at the junction between the soil/concrete an the air
Where I come from, if the fence is yours, then the convention is for the rails to go on your side, and the boards on your neighbour's.
I was just about to post the same. Maybe the neighbour was fine with it.
Doesn't look like it's possible to screw all the boards on from the neighbour's side.
In the UK (at least from my experience) the finished side (board side) faces your property. You are paying for it so you are entitled to look at the pretty side of the fence 😉.
This is the most boring thing people talk about when it comes to fencing. Let's face it the neighbour was probably happy a fence was being built
@@williamcollett4726 Hahaha!
Just be glad you don’t have to go down 122cm like here in Canada.
Same laptop bag!
Great bag! My wife hates it since it has too many pockets. 😂
@@GosforthHandyman we know that's why it's awesome! 😂
Good video👍🏽 I like the colour - what make and shade did you use? Thanks.
Cheers! It's Screwfix's No Nonsense Timber Decking Oil Oak 5Ltr - £24.99. 👍
I love your videos, mate. But I see so many small builders who hand-mix concrete and, given how cheap a small concrete mixer is, why wouldn't you invest in one and save yourself loads of time?
is the river part of your land? i live in Benton, not far from you and i have no idea where this is haha
talking of water ,are u allowed to have a pump system from the stream as long its not right in it ? i dont know the rules/laws of streams
I don't see why not - don't think anyone would care. Crossed my mind! Although I can buy a long hose for £25 and we're not on a meter. 😁
Nice job. Two questions: why didn’t you use concrete posts and were they 100cm2? Looked a bit skinny.
Timber is easier to work with and the posts are 75mm x 75mm
Concrete is much harder to work with, especially on your own. 75mm - covered in the vid. 👍
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