I feel like he's freaking out over every card lately. Like, this one especially is pretty boring (at least to me) and not broken at all, it's 5 mana and it's not even filling that gy itself, so yeah, not broken at all imo. Idk y but these thumbnails start annoying me.
For those who don't remember Moira and hasn't bothered to look her up. Moira, Urborg Haunt 2B Legendary creature == Spirit Wizard Menace Whenever Moira, Urborg Haunt deals combat damage to a player, return to the battlefield target creature card in your graveyard that was put there this turn. 3/2
Rip the Girls, at least they're having a fun time being evil together. Non-land permanent is cool though, and finally they brought back the Historic spell matters mechanic if only for this one card. Especially with a bunch of the Necron cards, they seem like the perfect White Black artifact commander.
This card is a dream for esper builds tuned to abuse heartless summonings. My favorite heartless summonings abuse is havengul lich recasting priest of gix infinity times. Producing infinite black mana. This new teshar is also good with old teshar.
A bit surprised you didn't mention effects like conjurer's closet, restoration angel, and eerie interlude. Anything that exiles won't be affected by the exile replacement, meaning any of those cards can be used to keep around resurrected creatures. Not to mention repeating juicy ETBs.
@@nwtcg7739 because if it would leave the battlefield exile it instead. conjurers closet and whatnot is still leaving the battlefield so it'll be exiled forevermore
Sagas would be odd to build into this deck, since you"d almost have to proliferate through the chapters in a single turn. Maybe flicker effects would work, but I don't think so.
flicker could work if ur interested in the first lore counter, phyrexian scriptures is a good +1/+1 counter engine and then you can proliferate a whole bunch and make stuff big and conplete the saga
Doesn’t Void Maw work with this commander? I haven’t seen anyone ask that yet. Void Maw works with Magar of the Magic Strings and also with unearth. Moira and Teshar are worded the exact same way as Magar. It’s also like 50¢.
How does that work trying to bounce it back to your hand? It says if it leaves it goes into exile from the new teshar? Doesn’t the exile take priority over it going back into your hand or does it go back to your hand as long as its before the end step. How its worded, im not sure if flickering flickering works with this
The way it is worded sounds like a replacement effect. If it would leave play for any reason i.e. returned to hand, destroyed, exiled by any other effect to then be returned, the replacement effect overrides that. If you try to flicker something, the replacement effect would trigger instead and it would simply be exiled permanently since the game remembers the condition of the card that it is to be exiled instead of anything else happening it it once it leaves play.
@@Cocytus127 yea thats what i was thinking, i believe its worded this way to prevent flicker shenanigans and combos because it goes straight to exile if you try to. Which im fine with, i dont play combos
11:46 For the whole episode I was just thinking "Blightsteel Collossus?" I mean if you use any of the black "chuck a guy into your grave" cards and then play a Mishra's bauble and swing for 11 poison damage?
Can someone explain this effect for me? I can see how it’s strong to just bring a creature back for the low cost of an historic spell but exiling it at the end step just seems bad to me. I got the sundial effect but I’m just confused. Cool card tho I must say
There are a few ways to get around the exile at end step, mostly by exiling through another means. Conjurer's Closet, Ephemerate, Felidar Guardian, Flickerwisp, etc. on top of Sundial.
@@thetom341 oh I see so bounce effects make them stick. I was under the impression that bounce did not work because they are leaving the battlefield in general. I can see now how that’s a crazy card then lol
There's some states I don't get why people live there. It gets terrible weather and it's as po-dunk as it gets. Minnesota is up there in the top 5 I wonder that of.... what's there even to do in or say about the state to make people still live there??
For those wondering, flicker effects will not work. If you try to flicker something, the replacement effect would trigger when the card leaves play and it would simply be exiled permanently since the game remembers the condition of the card that it is to be exiled instead of anything else happening it it once it leaves play. The replacement effect granted by Moira and Teshar is a characteristic granted to the card and the game remembers that. If it would leave play > Exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Something like Cloudshift would cause it to leave play, then the replacement effect happens, taking priority over Cloudshift's effect of bringing the card back. 614.1. Some continuous effects are replacement effects. Like prevention effects (see rule 615), replacement effects apply continuously as events happen-they aren’t locked in ahead of time. Such effects watch for a particular event that would happen and completely or partially replace that event with a different event. They act like “shields” around whatever they’re affecting. 614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
@@laurelkeeper Well if it's been ruled that's how unearth works, then I'm not able to say this wouldn't work the same way. It could be that unearth is somehow different from the ability of Moira and Teshar even though Unearth is also considered a replacement effect. Such is the way when magic's rules are too ambiguous.
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Mitch: how could wizards do this. How was this card printed!?. Sooo yeah let's get into the video. With this budget commander
Haha yeah I was gonna say - love the channel and energy but the thumbnails could be a bit more interesting
I feel like he's freaking out over every card lately. Like, this one especially is pretty boring (at least to me) and not broken at all, it's 5 mana and it's not even filling that gy itself, so yeah, not broken at all imo. Idk y but these thumbnails start annoying me.
Pretty much, yeah.
It's becoming clear that Eddie is to blame for everything...
I've been saying that for years!
Eddie: All Will Be One
Oath of the Gatewatch: Eddie Dynasty
Deciding what commander I want to build is the hardest part 😫. So many good options.
For those who don't remember Moira and hasn't bothered to look her up.
Moira, Urborg Haunt 2B
Legendary creature == Spirit Wizard
Menace
Whenever Moira, Urborg Haunt deals combat damage to a player, return to the battlefield target creature card in your graveyard that was put there this turn.
3/2
Man, everytime I hear from people in Minnesota, y'all weather sounds as wild as us here in Michigan
It is wild here
Definitely crazy weather there too!
A couple days ago we went from 25 degrees to 68 degrees in a 3 hour window.....
Ah yes the Thundersnowstorm, just completely normal and not strange Minnesota weather.
Rip the Girls, at least they're having a fun time being evil together. Non-land permanent is cool though, and finally they brought back the Historic spell matters mechanic if only for this one card. Especially with a bunch of the Necron cards, they seem like the perfect White Black artifact commander.
This card is a dream for esper builds tuned to abuse heartless summonings. My favorite heartless summonings abuse is havengul lich recasting priest of gix infinity times. Producing infinite black mana. This new teshar is also good with old teshar.
A bit surprised you didn't mention effects like conjurer's closet, restoration angel, and eerie interlude. Anything that exiles won't be affected by the exile replacement, meaning any of those cards can be used to keep around resurrected creatures. Not to mention repeating juicy ETBs.
Yeah was also wondering the same.
In addition to blink effects also phasing works.
Glad I was thinking the same thing like as long as it exile its good homie, imagine this in aminautou
nah it would stay in exile
@Twone Raps why you think that?
@@nwtcg7739 because if it would leave the battlefield exile it instead. conjurers closet and whatnot is still leaving the battlefield so it'll be exiled forevermore
This Would Be A Great Flicker Commander
3:27 'Laughs in Flicker effect'
That wouldn't work
@@toze2145 yes it does
@@jor-elmasterofscheduling2002 "If it would leave the battlefield, exile instead of putting it anywhere else."
@@toze2145 Flicker puts it in Exile, then returns it from Exile as a new entity. Learn to Google things
@Tó Zé Uhhh yeah and you're exiling it when you flicker it.
Gotta love thunder and snow in our wonderful state!
Sagas would be odd to build into this deck, since you"d almost have to proliferate through the chapters in a single turn. Maybe flicker effects would work, but I don't think so.
flicker could work if ur interested in the first lore counter, phyrexian scriptures is a good +1/+1 counter engine and then you can proliferate a whole bunch and make stuff big and conplete the saga
I built this a flicker deck and it's nasty.
It's ok Mitch. The weather keeps out the rif-raf.
What store do you play at? Dreamers? Tower? Level up? Loadstone? I would love to get a card signed by you!
Doesn’t Void Maw work with this commander? I haven’t seen anyone ask that yet. Void Maw works with Magar of the Magic Strings and also with unearth. Moira and Teshar are worded the exact same way as Magar. It’s also like 50¢.
It works but you need a way to kill your permanent before the next end step.
Kind of wish I could get a phyrexian chainer
Minnesota?? Representing right here!!!
How does that work trying to bounce it back to your hand? It says if it leaves it goes into exile from the new teshar? Doesn’t the exile take priority over it going back into your hand or does it go back to your hand as long as its before the end step. How its worded, im not sure if flickering flickering works with this
The way it is worded sounds like a replacement effect. If it would leave play for any reason i.e. returned to hand, destroyed, exiled by any other effect to then be returned, the replacement effect overrides that. If you try to flicker something, the replacement effect would trigger instead and it would simply be exiled permanently since the game remembers the condition of the card that it is to be exiled instead of anything else happening it it once it leaves play.
@@Cocytus127 yea thats what i was thinking, i believe its worded this way to prevent flicker shenanigans and combos because it goes straight to exile if you try to. Which im fine with, i dont play combos
11:46 For the whole episode I was just thinking "Blightsteel Collossus?" I mean if you use any of the black "chuck a guy into your grave" cards and then play a Mishra's bauble and swing for 11 poison damage?
blightsteel would put itself back into the deck if anything would chuck it into the grave
Blightsteel doesn't work due to the graveyard shuffle clause.
@richardsapingo1828 oh right. Forgot that part
Took me a minute on Moira too and I have the Dihada precon lol
Can someone explain this effect for me? I can see how it’s strong to just bring a creature back for the low cost of an historic spell but exiling it at the end step just seems bad to me. I got the sundial effect but I’m just confused. Cool card tho I must say
There are a few ways to get around the exile at end step, mostly by exiling through another means. Conjurer's Closet, Ephemerate, Felidar Guardian, Flickerwisp, etc. on top of Sundial.
@@thetom341 oh I see so bounce effects make them stick. I was under the impression that bounce did not work because they are leaving the battlefield in general. I can see now how that’s a crazy card then lol
Yo, didn't know you were also in MN!
Tutor up Sundial of the Infinite.
Keep all your stuff.
Seems good
They really be compleating all the furries tho
We still got Angrath.
Where was Moira and Teshar? I think I missed them.
Preston ratadrabik mirror box and flicker to keep it all
so quick with these videos!
"Balance? Whats that?" Wizards new motto.
Norin still safe? All good.
Some Phyrexian heads better roll for corrupting Moira.
There's some states I don't get why people live there. It gets terrible weather and it's as po-dunk as it gets. Minnesota is up there in the top 5 I wonder that of.... what's there even to do in or say about the state to make people still live there??
Woah
Indeed!
Fellow minnesotans
This is just an orzhov version of the Necron commander deck
Dihada 99
It's Wizards...it's never the end of spoilers 😒
Don't worry I didn't know who Moira was either
For those wondering, flicker effects will not work. If you try to flicker something, the replacement effect would trigger when the card leaves play and it would simply be exiled permanently since the game remembers the condition of the card that it is to be exiled instead of anything else happening it it once it leaves play. The replacement effect granted by Moira and Teshar is a characteristic granted to the card and the game remembers that.
If it would leave play > Exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Something like Cloudshift would cause it to leave play, then the replacement effect happens, taking priority over Cloudshift's effect of bringing the card back.
614.1. Some continuous effects are replacement effects. Like prevention effects (see rule 615), replacement effects apply continuously as events happen-they aren’t locked in ahead of time. Such effects watch for a particular event that would happen and completely or partially replace that event with a different event. They act like “shields” around whatever they’re affecting.
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
Are you sure? I think Unearth is worded the same way and it does work with many flicker effects.
I asked a judge and they said this effect was essentially the same as unearth. And blinking allows you to bypass the exile effect.
@@laurelkeeper Well if it's been ruled that's how unearth works, then I'm not able to say this wouldn't work the same way. It could be that unearth is somehow different from the ability of Moira and Teshar even though Unearth is also considered a replacement effect.
Such is the way when magic's rules are too ambiguous.
@@Cocytus127 the key thing is that flicker wants to exile the card anyway, so it still works
Flicker effects will work. Exile replacement effects won't replace exile effects. The replacement effect says "That's already going to exile. I've got nothing to do."
First. Finally lol