Hey man, very nice sleep system design! Very decent amount of modularity. Your lightest summer bag is still your main bag, with all hardware features still there. You just add pure warmth layers.
I've got the US Air Force ECWS Arctic sleep system. I've slept in it on the ranges at Eielson AFB AK, at -40 and was nice and warm. Gore-Tex Bivy, Arctic bag, Intermediate bag, all zipped together. Alway use a stocking cap and wobbie too
I have a complete 1990s Canadian military surplus sleeping system. Absolutely rock solid system. All 3 components of the sleeping bag tie together (or not). Flannel liner an inner and outer goose down bag with a total -40 rating. There is a Gumby looking hat that has two elastic bands that fit under your armpit so the wind can’t blow it off. All this was in a stuff bag that also doubles as a water bag. I Also got 5” rubber air mattress that also doubles as a raft for your pack and a ground cover sheet that can be used as a string line shelter. Not the lightest thing but my truck has no problem carrying it. Oh recently I bought a bivi bag similar to yours. Love it. Thankx for sharing.
Just came across your channel, have subscribed. Great explainer. I'm in Ontario, and winter camping is something I love. I took a course with Mors in New Hampshire back in 2007, and so nice to hear his name in your video. Cheers from Toronto.
That tuff possum survival scarf is one of my favorite pieces of gear. I like it so much that I ended up ordering a second one. It’s extremely well made and versatile, having so many different uses. Anyone looking to use it as a liner should get the Xl version, as he makes two different sizes.
part of my winter bed in the house is 2 alpaca blankets. after watching your video they may wander into the vehicle. decades ago i had a military training exercise in feb. wound up being the lone wolf, slept by myself. what i did was place my shelter half over myself for a larger space around my body & head. gave me the breathing room i needed.
You have quite an ingenious and versatile system, and it's obvious that it works. I don't have your level of experience, but I found that if it snows even lightly, a bivy is unpleasant. I waste time trying to keep my mouth positioned to breath while limiting snow flakes from entering. Placing fabric on top is also awkward. A light but very wind capable, single wall tent by MSR is my personal preference. Its protection eases dressing between the sleeping bag and outside if there's precipitation or strong winds and protects the boots and pack. But your system helps to maintain better discipline in packing only what's needed. I found a no name, very loose fitting fleece balaclava to be my preferred head protection. It also keeps the bag cleaner Your alpaca poncho is especially intriguing. There are three animals with similar insulating fur - lama, alpaca, and vicuna. All three offer excellent insulation. Allegedly, vicuna is the best. I've never even seen a product advertised using any of these animal's fur. Do you know of a source offering these?
@@wildwest_woodscraft Thanks for the reply. You clearly have more experience. With that comes refinement in what you tailor for your travels. Kudos for that.
decades ago i ran across a person selling alpaca jackets, ponchos, queen / king size blankets at the military base i was stationed at. spent a ton of money on christmas gifts that year. the 2 blankets i still have on the bed in winter.
So cool, Really awesome to know what products you're using, I didn't know about Carinthia, I'll add that to the list of growing "nice-to-haves" for camping 😅
Carinthia is a company from Austria. They are well known for their products for Hunters, Soldiers, and other personnel. Many NATO forces are equipped with stuff from Carinthia. I own also stuff from Carinthia, and it works! ;-) Regards from Germany
@@torsten4757 That's great, glad to know about them now! they seem to have a lot of good stuff, and well tested. Thank you so much for your extra information, and greetings from the US!
@@jacobh7319 you're welcome. If you are looking for an example for military surplus sleeping bags, you can also search for products from FECSA, the Spanish licenced manufacturer. The Brits and the Netherlands have a good sleeping bag system, with an intermediate and a lightweight bag from the Spanish company. It's basically the same as the Carinthia Defence 4 and the Carinthia Tropen sleeping bag. The German Bundeswehr uses a variation of the Carinthia Defence 4, called Allgemein 2. When it comes to the bivy bag from this video, these are also available in Flecktarn Camouflage and there are hooped versions named "Observer" ... Good equipment 👍🏼
Have you ever considered using a flextail tiny pump or similar? It's definitely a luxury item but the time it saves is great and it can be used as a battery pack/flashlight.
My issued M1949 mountain bag came with a sleeping bag cover that laced onto the bag. I woke up nice and toasty with snow on top of me and the bag. It wasn’t a bivy but just as good. I preferred the old mountain bag to the extreme cold weather bag as it was a down filled bag. I used it for my first three years in the army. I was issued the intermediate bag when I was stationed in the states and the extreme cold weather bag when I went back to Germany. When I went National Guard I was able to get another mountain bag. I planing to get a sleeping system for camping and one for a survival kit I’m making for flying. I have a private pilot’s certificate and want something good and light if I go down somewhere. I plan to have a bivy with it. Finding the right one is the trick. The sleeping bag I want to be down, and it will be vacuum packed like the survival bags the Air Force uses.
Nice sleep "system" with a lot of parts but they all make sense. The Alpaca poncho is very smart (if it stays on all night) B/C it collects your body vapor so it freezes on the Poncho and not inside the bag cover where it can melt and wet your insulation. Maybe attach 3 evenly spaced shock cords along the edges of the poncho with cord locks to make them adjustable and then put them around your overbag.
See you have put a lot of thought into your system. Nice. Do have a minor gripe: You got me seasick, well maybe a bit dizzy. In the future suggest you use a tripod. I don't need to watch your hands as they pull stuff out of your pack and stuff it into the bivy. A stable point of view is much easier way to observe without distraction. The previous comment used the word scalability. Very apt.
What do you do with your clothing? I put my pants and shirt under my sleeping bag and they stay warm from my body heat. In the morning I have warm pants and shirt to put on. Informative video, thanks for posting.
Go Team Bivy! (No, we are not at all confused in using the term "cowboy camping" in describing such a technical and refined sleep system.) And it's so nice to see no tent when it's not necessary. I'm curious about one thing, however, related to the platform here -- are you 100% a back sleeper, or can you manage to include some side-sleeping on what appears to be a pretty narrow "bunk". And your philosophy of use, especially relating to wearable clothing in the bag, is spot on. Also, though strikingly similar to your setup, I use a roomy Hunka XL from the UK, along with a 3 ft piece of 1/8 in foam under the torso and beneath the inflatable pad (helps reduce sliding, and folded up a bit makes a good sitpad) -- but I lack the nifty liner scarf, which does look interesting!
@@wildwest_woodscraft I've been sleeping with my Intermediate MSS bag in my bed for the past decade every night (that's 30,000 sleeps in it) and it still is like the day I bought it. Of course, I've also lost count of how many nights I've spent in it out in the woods in sub-zero conditions and it's always performed like the $600 sleep system that it was designed to be.
@YankeeWoodcraft I'm glad it works for you. I had one that didn't keep me warm in sub 0 temps and in my opinion the weight to warmth ratio is terrible. So for the kind of trips I take it's not a good option.
I thoroughly understand the layering principal, but this is too much for me. I'm at an age where my bladder demands me getting out of my sleep system several times per night. Repearedly getting back in to all of that would be a chore. I keep it to a set of lightweight wool underwear, one sleeping bag, and a bivi. Obviously, it's a big winter bag, but getting out and in is quick, and there's nothing else to impede the loft of my bag. I second other viewers' comments on NOT putting wet kit (socks) anywhere near down insulation. Horses for courses. I just thought I'd add my take on winter camping as dictated by an overactive bladder. 😂
Yeah it's not the easiest I get what you are saying. This is why I will never calm my system is the best. It works extremely well for me, but everyone has to find what works for them. There is definitely a wrong way, but many right ways to do it.🤣
That was my question. Nice and cozy and then inevitably you have to go to the bathroom! As a female don't think a bottle in all that would work.@@pbodymathis
Thanks for this--very well thought out. New subscriber here. Is that poncho Alpaca or llama? I only ask because I have a few llama ones and they look like that. I haven't found any reasonable alpaca ones that aren't 20% acrylic or some other artificial fiber.
If u ever need to replace ur sleep system snugpak has the full modular sleep system and even has special attachment that lets you zip the two bags together for convenience
@wildwest_woodscraft damn, I have the regular version I hope it doesnt do the same, its crazy they would advertise the gear for personnel and not test it properly
Not really I'll be cold long before a bear bothers me. I can get out prity quick and I keep my gun in the bag with me. Also bears a hibernating this time of year.
I must ask - what is the allure of sleeping outdoors in temperatures that can kill you? The only pluses I can see is that in winter there are no bugs or snakes, and bears are hibernating.
Because where I live, it gets below freezing 6 months out of the year, so I want to be able to be comfortable in the cold. Also, doing hard and dangerous things is fun. I enjoy doing things that are hard and require mental and physical toughness.
Oh, wow! Yes, there’s no way I would want to stay indoors that much of the time, either. I can relate to enjoying doing hard things, too, though not the dangerous part - but men and women usually differ on the appeal of that one 😄. Enjoy the challenge!
I definitely agree. In my opinion, safety always comes at a cost to freedom, so I don't mind a little danger in life. I have also done a lot of training to know how to survive in extreme environments.
@tomsitzman3952 Hi Tom, thanks for the good info. The reason I was actually asking is because the only sleeping bag I have that will work well on winter nights is an mss, but it's so heavy it often just sits in the truck in winter unless I'm car camping. . I'd like to come up with something I can actually carry outdoors ( preferably on a budget) and in a lighterweight emergency kit if needed. I've got options in shoulderseasons ,but in winter the mss is best. The sleep system is great but around 10lbs before food ,water, or a mora knife. I know alot of people carry them ,but I was wondering if I can cut a few pounds someday and find something else that also works well. I love the gortex bivy though. That thing is awesome.
It's only takes 30 seconds to get into this system. Also, I would rather tell my grandkids one day about the times I spent camping in the winter. These are the kind of experiences that stick with you a lot more than staying in a hotel.
I was referring to the bandanna filled with snow hanging near the fire. As it warms up, it will drip into the pot. It works well to filter out the debris in the snow.
Wow That looks like you could sleep in minus 22 F. I use a Dutch MSS. It has a summer sleeping bag with bugnetting in the hood. A winter sleeping bag that can close up to the point where only your mouth and nose are exposed. A cotton liner. To that I added a US military goretex bivy bag, the one with woodland camouflage on top and beige (?) on the bottom.. I could switch the cotton liner for a nylon one. I use a Sea to Summit mat with an R value of 5. Just the bivy, mat, winterbag is perfect to 30 F.
This system is a lot warmer than the US MSS and about half the weight and size. It's also warmer than my old system. I was comfortable in -20⁰f so this system I will definitely be good. Way to overkill for the Temps I had that night. Sounds like you have your system figured out.
Yes definitely however you will be getting up every couple of hours to add wood to the fire. Also in the area I am in it almost exclusively pine witch burns very fast so it would take most of the day to cut enough wood to keep the fire going all night. Have you tried this method is sub 0⁰ Temps?
How so? I've been doing this for years with no problems. I don't have it in the sleeping bag, just the bivvy to protect it from being damaged. There is still plenty of room. Nothing is compressed.
He needs the layers because he said he uses it year round. With your way you need more then one system. With his system Its more economical and easily changeable for different conditions
helmet cam S UCKS I can not wtach your videos get a hand held quit moving all over very fast. I wanted to learn but others have better videos than yours. too much movemnet from your angle
I'm not sure why you thought it necessary to comment. But I'm glad you found other videos that helped you. Ultimately, I don't care as long as you get outside and practice these skills.
Maybe you have some advice. I also use a thermarest pad...but it started going flat after only a couple of weeks, without ANY indication at all,of why it was doing that. I've found no holes or split seams,and I can't hear any air leakage. Ideas???
Hey man, very nice sleep system design! Very decent amount of modularity. Your lightest summer bag is still your main bag, with all hardware features still there. You just add pure warmth layers.
I've got the US Air Force ECWS Arctic sleep system. I've slept in it on the ranges at Eielson AFB AK, at -40 and was nice and warm. Gore-Tex Bivy, Arctic bag, Intermediate bag, all zipped together. Alway use a stocking cap and wobbie too
I have a complete 1990s Canadian military surplus sleeping system. Absolutely rock solid system. All 3 components of the sleeping bag tie together (or not). Flannel liner an inner and outer goose down bag with a total -40 rating. There is a Gumby looking hat that has two elastic bands that fit under your armpit so the wind can’t blow it off. All this was in a stuff bag that also doubles as a water bag. I Also got 5” rubber air mattress that also doubles as a raft for your pack and a ground cover sheet that can be used as a string line shelter. Not the lightest thing but my truck has no problem carrying it. Oh recently I bought a bivi bag similar to yours. Love it. Thankx for sharing.
Sounds like a really solid setup, thanks for sharing!
Just came across your channel, have subscribed. Great explainer. I'm in Ontario, and winter camping is something I love. I took a course with Mors in New Hampshire back in 2007, and so nice to hear his name in your video. Cheers from Toronto.
Awesome thank for watching. Mors was an incredible man. Unfortunately I never got to meet him. But I always try to name my sources.
Just got back from a -20C trip north of Algonquin. Nice to see another torontonian
I hope this channel blows up, it deserves more recognition 👍
@burntlands_backcountry I appreciate it thanks.
That tuff possum survival scarf is one of my favorite pieces of gear. I like it so much that I ended up ordering a second one. It’s extremely well made and versatile, having so many different uses. Anyone looking to use it as a liner should get the Xl version, as he makes two different sizes.
part of my winter bed in the house is 2 alpaca blankets. after watching your video they may wander into the vehicle. decades ago i had a military training exercise in feb. wound up being the lone wolf, slept by myself. what i did was place my shelter half over myself for a larger space around my body & head. gave me the breathing room i needed.
You have quite an ingenious and versatile system, and it's obvious that it works. I don't have your level of experience, but I found that if it snows even lightly, a bivy is unpleasant. I waste time trying to keep my mouth positioned to breath while limiting snow flakes from entering. Placing fabric on top is also awkward. A light but very wind capable, single wall tent by MSR is my personal preference. Its protection eases dressing between the sleeping bag and outside if there's precipitation or strong winds and protects the boots and pack. But your system helps to maintain better discipline in packing only what's needed. I found a no name, very loose fitting fleece balaclava to be my preferred head protection. It also keeps the bag cleaner Your alpaca poncho is especially intriguing. There are three animals with similar insulating fur - lama, alpaca, and vicuna. All three offer excellent insulation. Allegedly, vicuna is the best. I've never even seen a product advertised using any of these animal's fur. Do you know of a source offering these?
I personally don't like using tents and try to use the resources around me to improve my camp. But it sounds like you have a good system.
@@wildwest_woodscraft Thanks for the reply. You clearly have more experience. With that comes refinement in what you tailor for your travels. Kudos for that.
decades ago i ran across a person selling alpaca jackets, ponchos, queen / king size blankets at the military base i was stationed at. spent a ton of money on christmas gifts that year. the 2 blankets i still have on the bed in winter.
This was great man!!
Thanks, great descriptions! I have the X-Therm as well. Warm pad(too warm in the spring/summer where we are).
Good stuff!
So cool, Really awesome to know what products you're using, I didn't know about Carinthia, I'll add that to the list of growing "nice-to-haves" for camping 😅
Carinthia is a company from Austria. They are well known for their products for Hunters, Soldiers, and other personnel. Many NATO forces are equipped with stuff from Carinthia.
I own also stuff from Carinthia, and it works! ;-)
Regards from Germany
@@torsten4757 That's great, glad to know about them now! they seem to have a lot of good stuff, and well tested.
Thank you so much for your extra information, and greetings from the US!
@@jacobh7319 you're welcome.
If you are looking for an example for military surplus sleeping bags, you can also search for products from FECSA, the Spanish licenced manufacturer. The Brits and the Netherlands have a good sleeping bag system, with an intermediate and a lightweight bag from the Spanish company. It's basically the same as the Carinthia Defence 4 and the Carinthia Tropen sleeping bag.
The German Bundeswehr uses a variation of the Carinthia Defence 4, called Allgemein 2.
When it comes to the bivy bag from this video, these are also available in Flecktarn Camouflage and there are hooped versions named "Observer" ...
Good equipment 👍🏼
VARUSTELEKA is s great dealer for Carinthia. One cavest/ I sm 6’2” and they are to short
I've been impressed with them so far. Just be careful people can try to sell it for way to much.
Great kit! It would be nice to add all this to the description! I would be grateful!
Sorry I just don't have the time to do that right now.
Glad I watched this, that scarf is something I'm extremely interested in
It very useful
I like the scalability of it all!
Greetings from the Netherlands.
looks very cozy. seems lightweight as well for how well that'll keep you warm
Yes it is a good balance in my opinion
Nice system, I have a Carinthia bivvy. Particularly like the wool / Alpaca top cover. Wool is heavy but so worth it
It really is!
I like it. From the warm balmy Caribbean islands🏖🏝⛱☀. Oh, how ironic!🤣😂😅
Yeah Mon!
Have you ever considered using a flextail tiny pump or similar? It's definitely a luxury item but the time it saves is great and it can be used as a battery pack/flashlight.
Not a bad idea
Smart and well thought out system, will be making one using your ideas
Thanks for the video.
Any links to any of the equipment? That liner/scarf looks great
No, I don't have links. The scarf is from Tuff Possum Gear.
Nice video. I would use the Tropen as an inside layer, so the body moisture remain in the syntetic inner bag and the down outher stay dry.
Good idea, I would agree other than due to the difference in sizes it just works better how I have it. This is why I have the liner.
Great video! Looking forward to your future videos.
Simple but practical great sleep set up thank you very much for cheering
Great video! I’m going to get some parts of your kit , your awesome
My issued M1949 mountain bag came with a sleeping bag cover that laced onto the bag. I woke up nice and toasty with snow on top of me and the bag. It wasn’t a bivy but just as good. I preferred the old mountain bag to the extreme cold weather bag as it was a down filled bag. I used it for my first three years in the army. I was issued the intermediate bag when I was stationed in the states and the extreme cold weather bag when I went back to Germany. When I went National Guard I was able to get another mountain bag. I planing to get a sleeping system for camping and one for a survival kit I’m making for flying. I have a private pilot’s certificate and want something good and light if I go down somewhere. I plan to have a bivy with it. Finding the right one is the trick. The sleeping bag I want to be down, and it will be vacuum packed like the survival bags the Air Force uses.
Lots of good info here. I agree with you, the mmss isn't that amazing.
Thats a great video! I love the hot water on my feet.
Yes it's amazing
Awesome video man!
Thank you 👊
New subscriber, very good info, thank you!
Nice sleep "system" with a lot of parts but they all make sense. The Alpaca poncho is very smart (if it stays on all night) B/C it collects your body vapor so it freezes on the Poncho and not inside the bag cover where it can melt and wet your insulation. Maybe attach 3 evenly spaced shock cords along the edges of the poncho with cord locks to make them adjustable and then put them around your overbag.
Not a bad idea. 👍
See you have put a lot of thought into your system. Nice.
Do have a minor gripe: You got me seasick, well maybe a bit dizzy. In the future suggest you use a tripod. I don't need to watch your hands as they pull stuff out of your pack and stuff it into the bivy. A stable point of view is much easier way to observe without distraction.
The previous comment used the word scalability. Very apt.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll try to keep the camera more stable in future videos.
What do you do with your clothing? I put my pants and shirt under my sleeping bag and they stay warm from my body heat. In the morning I have warm pants and shirt to put on. Informative video, thanks for posting.
Thermals go in the sleep system and the durable layer drys by the fire
Go Team Bivy! (No, we are not at all confused in using the term "cowboy camping" in describing such a technical and refined sleep system.) And it's so nice to see no tent when it's not necessary.
I'm curious about one thing, however, related to the platform here -- are you 100% a back sleeper, or can you manage to include some side-sleeping on what appears to be a pretty narrow "bunk". And your philosophy of use, especially relating to wearable clothing in the bag, is spot on.
Also, though strikingly similar to your setup, I use a roomy Hunka XL from the UK, along with a 3 ft piece of 1/8 in foam under the torso and beneath the inflatable pad (helps reduce sliding, and folded up a bit makes a good sitpad) -- but I lack the nifty liner scarf, which does look interesting!
looks like a good setup to me
Thanks
I've spent many a night in sub-freezing conditions outside in just my MSS. They are still the best.
I personally disagree based on my experience there are way better options. But the mss works well for a lot of people and is relatively cheap.
@@wildwest_woodscraft I've been sleeping with my Intermediate MSS bag in my bed for the past decade every night (that's 30,000 sleeps in it) and it still is like the day I bought it.
Of course, I've also lost count of how many nights I've spent in it out in the woods in sub-zero conditions and it's always performed like the $600 sleep system that it was designed to be.
@YankeeWoodcraft I'm glad it works for you. I had one that didn't keep me warm in sub 0 temps and in my opinion the weight to warmth ratio is terrible. So for the kind of trips I take it's not a good option.
Great information thank you
Great vid. Would love to know where you purchased the down slippers. Anyone???
Mine are from First Light.
I made a bivy from 70d nylon sheet I got for cheap. Light and keeps me dry while insulated and moisture wicking.
I thoroughly understand the layering principal, but this is too much for me.
I'm at an age where my bladder demands me getting out of my sleep system several times per night.
Repearedly getting back in to all of that would be a chore.
I keep it to a set of lightweight wool underwear, one sleeping bag, and a bivi.
Obviously, it's a big winter bag, but getting out and in is quick, and there's nothing else to impede the loft of my bag.
I second other viewers' comments on NOT putting wet kit (socks) anywhere near down insulation.
Horses for courses. I just thought I'd add my take on winter camping as dictated by an overactive bladder. 😂
Yeah it's not the easiest I get what you are saying. This is why I will never calm my system is the best. It works extremely well for me, but everyone has to find what works for them. There is definitely a wrong way, but many right ways to do it.🤣
Toss the warm water from the bottle and you have a nice urinal inside your sleeping bag😛
I use a "P" bottle to keep from getting up. One with a screw lid keeps the liquid confined,
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😂😂😂.true that.
That was my question. Nice and cozy and then inevitably you have to go to the bathroom! As a female don't think a bottle in all that would work.@@pbodymathis
Thanks for this--very well thought out. New subscriber here. Is that poncho Alpaca or llama? I only ask because I have a few llama ones and they look like that. I haven't found any reasonable alpaca ones that aren't 20% acrylic or some other artificial fiber.
I believe it is alpaca
Thanks for the sub!
@@wildwest_woodscraft Thanks, looks toasty. Makes me want to take a nap.
If u ever need to replace ur sleep system snugpak has the full modular sleep system and even has special attachment that lets you zip the two bags together for convenience
I have used some snugpak gear in the past and wasn't impressed. But I know it works for some people.
@wildwest_woodscraft did it break, i hope my bivy lasts a while because it cost a lot
@@UndoubtablySo I had a sf bivvy that leaked really bad. And it just seemed cheaply made for the price.
@wildwest_woodscraft damn, I have the regular version I hope it doesnt do the same, its crazy they would advertise the gear for personnel and not test it properly
US military MSS all the way. Used it while serving and still use it today. Wool blankets also for the win.
One caveat for Carinthia! I am 6’2”’and bought the MO5 bag. It
‘S to short!
I'd consider your setup of you'd slept out in it some, and in different conditions.
Interesting video, and good info. Don’t you worry about being all wrapped up if a bear shows up?
Not really I'll be cold long before a bear bothers me. I can get out prity quick and I keep my gun in the bag with me. Also bears a hibernating this time of year.
Please tell me more about that poncho
Sorry I don't remember what brand this is. But it alpaca wool. A very useful piece of kit.
What are the specifics of how you ordered your warbonnet? Too much customization for me.
They have a lot of good information what to order. The rest is just what colors you want.
Nice set up....BUT let's see you squirm your way down into all those layers 🤣🤣🤣. It would take me 20 minutes to get situated and I'd be exhausted.
You will in an upcoming video. 🤣 it isn't that bad.
The head mounted camera is getting me dizzy
I get that. It works really well for showing some certain things and makes filming a lot easier. However, I won't be using it all the time.
@@wildwest_woodscraftwhat mount is it ?
I must ask - what is the allure of sleeping outdoors in temperatures that can kill you? The only pluses I can see is that in winter there are no bugs or snakes, and bears are hibernating.
Because where I live, it gets below freezing 6 months out of the year, so I want to be able to be comfortable in the cold. Also, doing hard and dangerous things is fun. I enjoy doing things that are hard and require mental and physical toughness.
Oh, wow! Yes, there’s no way I would want to stay indoors that much of the time, either. I can relate to enjoying doing hard things, too, though not the dangerous part - but men and women usually differ on the appeal of that one 😄. Enjoy the challenge!
I definitely agree. In my opinion, safety always comes at a cost to freedom, so I don't mind a little danger in life. I have also done a lot of training to know how to survive in extreme environments.
Did you use the Neman Marcus catalog to order all that stuff?
I don't know what that is.
What happens if you need to take a leak? Seriously, you could pee your pants trying to get out of there, no?
I can get out of it in less than 30 seconds.
Hey bud. What pack is that?
It's the Hill people gear ute light.
@@wildwest_woodscraft I need a review of that pack please
@MiClLC I am still testing it but by the end of 2025 I should be able to give my opinion. 👍
@@MiClLCive got the regular ute and also one of the larger qui yas. Theyre fucking amazing.
Hi, I'm in the rockies also. How cold have you got this system down to?
@tomsitzman3952 Hi Tom, thanks for the good info. The reason I was actually asking is because the only sleeping bag I have that will work well on winter nights is an mss, but it's so heavy it often just sits in the truck in winter unless I'm car camping. . I'd like to come up with something I can actually carry outdoors ( preferably on a budget) and in a lighterweight emergency kit if needed. I've got options in shoulderseasons ,but in winter the mss is best. The sleep system is great but around 10lbs before food ,water, or a mora knife. I know alot of people carry them ,but I was wondering if I can cut a few pounds someday and find something else that also works well. I love the gortex bivy though. That thing is awesome.
I would be comfortable down to -20⁰f
I wanted soooooo badly to watch this (I ended up closing my eyes and listening) but the camera movement was overstimulating.
Boo hoo. Shut up and go to sleep lol dumb fuk
Too much camera movement but good stuff.
where did you get that wool poncho? i have the same one but i got it secondhand so i dont know where its from
I honestly don't remember sorry.
Subbed
Is there a difference if you have the Thermarest outside the bivvy vs. inside?
No other than the bivvy will protect the pad
looks like you could use a superior gear hammock
where did you buy that bivy cover from?
I got it used on eBay.
@@wildwest_woodscraft do you know which bivy cover it is exactly? I see they have different ones from that brand. Thanks :)
By the time you get in all that it will be morning.
Motel 6, they’ll keep the light on for you.
It's only takes 30 seconds to get into this system. Also, I would rather tell my grandkids one day about the times I spent camping in the winter. These are the kind of experiences that stick with you a lot more than staying in a hotel.
What I want to see is you getting into that monstrosity!
A water genrator? Back in themz days we called her a pot
I was referring to the bandanna filled with snow hanging near the fire. As it warms up, it will drip into the pot. It works well to filter out the debris in the snow.
What about bears
There hibernating this time of year
Couldnt you put the water-bottle in a dry-bag to be 100% sure about leakage?
Not a bad idea
Wow
That looks like you could sleep in minus 22 F.
I use a Dutch MSS. It has a summer sleeping bag with bugnetting in the hood. A winter sleeping bag that can close up to the point where only your mouth and nose are exposed. A cotton liner.
To that I added a US military goretex bivy bag, the one with woodland camouflage on top and beige (?) on the bottom..
I could switch the cotton liner for a nylon one.
I use a Sea to Summit mat with an R value of 5.
Just the bivy, mat, winterbag is perfect to 30 F.
This system is a lot warmer than the US MSS and about half the weight and size. It's also warmer than my old system. I was comfortable in -20⁰f so this system I will definitely be good. Way to overkill for the Temps I had that night. Sounds like you have your system figured out.
Don’t think I can finish watching - the GoPro is making me dizzy
Should’ve showed how you get in there lol
It's in an upcoming video
So, when u wake up. You put on cold clothes and boots
I put on warm thermals and socks. So I don't mind the durable layer and boots being cold. I would rather them be dry from be near the fire all night.
Got vertigo watching hard pass
No problem have a good one 👍
Two emergency space blankets and a small fire and you could reduce your sleep system by 50%
Yes definitely however you will be getting up every couple of hours to add wood to the fire. Also in the area I am in it almost exclusively pine witch burns very fast so it would take most of the day to cut enough wood to keep the fire going all night. Have you tried this method is sub 0⁰ Temps?
Can’t stand the camera movement. It gives me a head ache.
I can’t sleep with face covered
Inflatable pad pad in bag. Mark of amature
How so? I've been doing this for years with no problems. I don't have it in the sleeping bag, just the bivvy to protect it from being damaged. There is still plenty of room. Nothing is compressed.
So your bed roll weighs 18 pounds! No thanks
It actually weighs less than 10 for all of this
Can’t watch POV videos like this. I start getting nauseous within the first 5 minutes.
That's fine have a good one 👍
Can't watch the video I am getting sea sick. Please take the camera off your head.
@brianschroeder6106 sorry you didn't like it. That system works well for what I was trying to do.
Ho many layers???? Way too much faff for me. I’d stick with my Macpac 1100 goretex down bag. Kept me toasty warm at _35c
Sounds like you have a system that works for you. I like something that is scalable due to going on trips around the country.
He needs the layers because he said he uses it year round. With your way you need more then one system. With his system Its more economical and easily changeable for different conditions
helmet cam S UCKS I can not wtach your videos get a hand held quit moving all over very fast. I wanted to learn but others have better videos than yours. too much movemnet from your angle
I'm not sure why you thought it necessary to comment. But I'm glad you found other videos that helped you. Ultimately, I don't care as long as you get outside and practice these skills.
What’s the point of saying that?
@offtrailadventures6500 8 can't watch
Maybe you have some advice. I also use a thermarest pad...but it started going flat after only a couple of weeks, without ANY indication at all,of why it was doing that. I've found no holes or split seams,and I can't hear any air leakage. Ideas???
Mabe something to to with the valve. I would get ahold of Thermarest. I personally have no experience with their CS but couldn't hurt.
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