@@alisong2328 No: they think that by saying you understand, that means you stand under the law i.e. you're agreeing to take part in the legal process because it applies to you. You'll often see these morons saying "I comprehend" When she's asked if she understands the charges she hesitates then says "I know what I've been accused of"
@@iammattc1 That's one aspect, certainly. But I think that the phrase "I don't understand" is intended to be dual-purpose. The other is "I have a constitutional right to understand / comprehend the cause and nature of the charges before we proceed. So long as I refuse to admit that I understand / comprehend that, we can't proceed." The usual solution to that one is for the judge to assert something along the lines of "I've explained it to you several times. You can't articulate what you're failing to understand. Therefore, per the court rules, you are clearly not competent to act as your own counsel, and I will appoint someone to advocate on your behalf if you are unwilling or unable to hire your own attorney."
These people are mentally draining. I appreciate the judge shutting her down and sending her on her way- you don’t know the law. They want to argue “logic”(& that term is used loosely) from their perspective instead of law 🙄
They always seem to argue (flawed thinking) jurisdiction. I really wish a judge would make them watch a few of the sovcit trials where the defendant is always found guilty by a jury. Maybe that would end some of this bs.
@notme2day most of them don't understand it. This is a tactic "pioneered" by a pseudo-lawyer named Marc Stevens.. he has a UA-cam channel. He tells people to constantly challenged jurisdiction. Ask the same stupid questions over and over again. Say stuff like, "I just need to understand the nature and cause of the action against me." Stevens was prosecuted by the AZ bar assoclayering. Unlicensed lawyering. Agreed to stop.
@@scottmccrea1873 I'm so thankful I don't live in a sovcidiot area ... only 2 around here. One is known to the police & courts. The other one is one of the smartest guys my family's ever met but, he's not exactly a sovcit.... not sure what he is other than a great neighbor.lol He doesn't drive, he pays his property taxes but no others taxes. He's basically denounced the goverment. Works only for cash. Doesn't believe in any gov assistance programs. He's in his 70s, very fit and active. He'll probably work till he drops. The rest of his family isn't like him but, we've all got that one odd duck in the family... or like my family... several of them. 🤣
@@notme2day Guy doesn't sound like a SovCit to me. They usually insist on their "right" to travel, etc. He sounds more like some kind of Thoreauvian radical individualist. I know there are some here in the Vegas Valley. But I've been told by a retired cop that there are a lot of them in the county to the north of us. Lotsa of Moorons in Philadelphia which is one of their centers. Varies by place apparently.
@@scottmccrea1873 I live in South Central Virginia. I know he and his family have a non typical christian type religion but can't remember what it's called, never heard of it before. When his 90+ year old father passed, he had to shave off his beard, can't remember if it was head too or not. I'd first thought it might have something to do with that but like I said... the rest of his family isn't like him *exactly* with the goverment, well not to his extreme any way. *Edit ohhhh, how I miss living in Vegas. I moved here 23 years ago. Had I not grown up in small town OK, I would have died from culture shock of going from a 24HR town to "what do you mean they close at 6pm?" rural VA, population less than 2500. LOL
This is a prime example of being your own worst enemy…and quite frankly it is a reliable indicator that this young woman will most likely spend most of her life in a prison for one reason or another.
It will just reinforce her conviction (pun alert) that the justice system is unjust. She will seek to appeal. When she says she doesn't understand she means she doesn't acknowledge any existing judicial process.
Don't make me laugh. She doesn't understand the maximum penalty for the crime she is charged with is 10 years. I don't think she'll ever understand anything.
I have to agree with her about one thing - I don’t understand, either. I don’t understand why anyone would rather play these stupid games that NEVER work in court, ending with far longer and more severe sentences, instead of just allowing an actual attorney to represent you and get you the best deal possible. Do these people WANT to go to jail? Or are they so completely unintelligent that they think they can outsmart the entire judicial system?
I think there's two fundamental issues: 1) A distrust of authority and Gov't simply because it's authority and Government. It doesn't matter what the specific issue and process are, if "The Man" says so, I ain't listening. So there's an incorrect assumption that the Public Defender's job is to put them away, rather than defend them. 2) Dunning-Kruger. When someone is too stupid to understand their level of ignorance, they over-estimate the value of what they know, or think they know. A smarter person has a handle on what they do and do not know, and the wisdom to rely on experts when needed. The stupid think there isn't anything beyond what they "know" that is *worth* knowing. Just more reasons to get an education.
Anybody else feel for Mr. Jeffries, the Public Defender here? He just has to let her ramble on until the Judge shuts down her crazy train, and then when she states he’s still on the case all he can do is smile. Welcome to the PD’s office - not just a case, sir, it’s a right of passage!
I don't know if she's "challenged" or medicated but she clearly cannot represent herself. More judges should be this tough about it. If they clearly do not understand the law, don't let them pro se
@@eggsngritstnYeah, she's got "issues" as the kids say. It should be a broader principle. If someone doesn't understand the basics of how the system works or how laws work, then he or she shouldn't be allowed to go pro se. Ideology aside, there's too much procedural bullshit that has to be complied with and that's really 90% of what lawyers are paid for. They know the "map" of how to do things and we don't. Most cases don't turn on subtle legal reasoning to "make law." People watch too much TV/movies. Most legal stuff is routine, humdrum. Some of it hellishly complex (tax law; environmental regulation) but most of it is just knowing the steps.
I like this judge, she reminds me of our judges, people wanting to represent themselves (almost exclusively sovcits) get three "I do not understands" and they are informed that since they cannot understand, they cannot self represent. For those not in custody, it usually results in them being held in direct contempt, and jailed. For those in custody, the result is usually being taken out of the court before they can get to the level of contempt.
Post an order from the chief judge of the courthouse: “Anyone citing any of the following, sovcit nonsense, is subject to an immediate finding of contempt, with a mandatory minimum 7 days in jail and $500 unwaiveable fine, up to 30 days and a $2,000 fine. For each occurrence. All sentences for contempt on these grounds are to run consecutively.” Very quickly we will see this stop.
I think my cat Larry is SovCit. His beliefs and behavior patterns are very similar to these people. We have a rule of no running in the house and he is constant violation of this rule. He repeats a certain script over and over and over ….its just meow…meow…meow…all the time. He bites my wrist frequently like it’s his right to do so…😻😹😾😸
The judge turned the "I don't understand" mantra of magic words to destroy the defendants choice to represent herself. How can she when she doesn't understand anything?
As stand by, he doesn’t present in court proceedings-she does what SovCits do. If she wants to ask him a question in court she can and then keep doing that thing she do. If she is found incompetent, then circumstances change. She can refuse to cooperate with the attorney, it just falls on her.
No, let these morons walk right into the buzz saw. They're adults and deserve the consequences of their own actions including representing themselves especially after being warned not to by EVERYONE in the court room.
@@willj1598I think she may be "challenged" (insert whatever Marxist euphemism is currently required). Maybe not legally, but she ain't firing on all cylinders. She's _trying_ to play SovCit games but failing. Which should be an indicator of her cognitive abilities.
@@scottmccrea1873 She's definitely not too bright, she talked herself right into an easily predictable situation. I just think it is willful ignorance and stubbornness as opposed to a cognitive deficit.
I have to ask the question, just in case anybody knows. Who is making money pumping these gullible people full of nonsense? They are the GOAT of all snake oil salesmen!
@@adrianhenle yeah, they are trying to be as literal with it as you can. It gets worse because in sov cit world, understand something means you stand under the judge which means you create a verbal contract lol.
My mental health has improved since I started using the length of a video as the determining factor of whether I watch it. Thirty minutes? No. Five? Sure, I’m in. It’s a good way to tell whether the judge handles it well.
the system worked. the defendant asked to represent herself, which is her right. the judge took her through the process, a process that is designed to protect defendants from themselves, and the process - not the judge - determined by virtue of her answers to the questions that she was not able to represent herself. took 15 minutes. saved the defendant so much. maybe she will see that someday, maybe not. good job all around.
As long as they get their time to vomit their sovitard bs they're happy. They thing nothing of the consequences or the arrest record. I repeated the tri-fold; I'm a hero.
I don’t understand. That’s their standard response to the word understand. Judges have to ask them if they comprehend, because they refuse to stand under laws or authority.
@@Fred2-123i wish judges would ask them what the word "understand" means and when they spew that "to stand under" ask them which dictionary they saw those definitions in. Because no dictionary has that.
Yea, but that's just a dumb word game they are playing that no one else is. They think that's why the judge is asking them if they understand, to trick them into saying that they stand under the law, but the judge isn't doing that. No one else is playing by those rules except for the sovereign citizens, those people are delusional and incredibly confused.
Sov Cits have this weird idea that Understanding means to stand under, so if they are asked do you comprehend, they would still say not because they are really really dumb.
These people say they don’t understand anything but they want to be their own lawyer…it’s a joke and a complete waste of time. Oh ya and it makes me sick 🤬🤬🤬🤬
“I don’t understand” = I don’t stand under your jurisdiction. The double irony of shooting yourself in the foot because you now HAVE to be represented, but also helping yourself by being represented. It’s must be hard being so mentally stopped up.
I don't understand is sovereign citizen stupid for "I don't stand under" meaning the don't agree to be subject to the law. It doesn't mean anything at all of course.
Kudos to the judge. The higher courts have ruled uniformly, in all jurisdictions, that the arguments put forth by these fools are frivolous because they lack any legal merit whatever. And, being frivolous, they can be dismissed summarily, that is, without argument or even explanation. Very few judges have gotten that memo, but this one has and does it right.
Because that memo doesn't exist. You are however correct in that, judges themselves often tend to use a logical fallacy called _reductio ad absurdum_ whereby they seek to single out one frivolous aspect of a pro-se litigant's defense and then invalidate their entire defense because of it. Doesn't mean they can't be called out on it.
@@JLova82 The phrase "he didn't get the memo" is recognized by well read people as a kind of ironic aphorism. As for invalidating a whole case because of a procedural frivolity, I've never seen it, don't believe it's happened, and if it did it would not only be squashed by an appeals bench, it would also earn a sanction on the judge who did it. Not credible.
@@frankw7091 What I have gathered, they don't stand under laws, so they can't agree to understanding things. That's why they can only answer they comprehend.
@@frankw7091Sovcits are taught that if they “understand” something that means they “stand under” the cops’ authority. Since they are sovereign, that means they’ve formed a contract, and that’s bad. The way to get around this is to say “do you comprehend?”
Mr. Jefferies reaction when he was told that he'd continue being her lawyer was wonderful, just that minor head tilt and quick glance to the ceiling in reaction, seen it (and done it) a billion times working in customer service industry--the classic, "Ah fv
I'll translate: she doesn't understand she could get anything up to 10 years in jail because she's decided she doesn't want any jail time at all. Judge should have asked her if she understands her guilt or innocence is absolutely not up to her.
Looks like the sov-cit bleat of "I do not understand," intended to wear down "the system" much as a toddler's tantrum wears down their parents, backfired royally on this defendant.
Yeah it was impossible to hear what the defendant is saying. Also in many other courts it seem alike they have hired a guy to sit and fold newspapers during the trial right next to the mic
“Sovereign citizen arguments have no basis in law and have never been successful in any court. The movement may appeal to people facing financial or legal difficulties or wishing to resist perceived government oppression. As a result, it has grown significantly during times of economic or social crisis.”
@@JLova82 since it would be very rare that they win it would make news and be on UA-cam/TikTok instantly..the people that sell (grift) the SOVCIT get out of jail free kits would make sure the world know that a SOVCIT won a case.. We also have at least 20 channels here on UA-cam that watch thousands of court cases..not to mention some courts do live feeds ..now as far as the world or the galaxy or universe .....feel free to post a link to a court case somewhere in the world, galaxy, universe where a SOVCIT won their case...or if no link post a case number and the jurisdiction i would love to read the transcript..
Watch SovCit's earlier appearance.
ua-cam.com/video/TW7bUb9E5qY/v-deo.html
Is there an update to this case
The paralyzing stupidity of "sovereigns" is legendary.
The Judge's decisive intolerance for bullshit is refreshing.
"paralyzing stupidity"...perfect!
Paralyzed stupidity is not just for American presidents, weird huh?
@@Starman909 No country has a monopoly on morons.
Agreed.
👏🏾👏🏾 Well done, judge. Shut it down…quickly.
“I don’t understand” magic words which in their minds means they cannot be tried, you have to let me go.
That seems to be what she’s trying. If she doesn’t cooperate with her attorney she’s asking for a prison term.
To them, "I don't understand" means "I don't agree."
@@alisong2328 No: they think that by saying you understand, that means you stand under the law i.e. you're agreeing to take part in the legal process because it applies to you. You'll often see these morons saying "I comprehend"
When she's asked if she understands the charges she hesitates then says "I know what I've been accused of"
😂😂😂
@@iammattc1 That's one aspect, certainly. But I think that the phrase "I don't understand" is intended to be dual-purpose. The other is "I have a constitutional right to understand / comprehend the cause and nature of the charges before we proceed. So long as I refuse to admit that I understand / comprehend that, we can't proceed." The usual solution to that one is for the judge to assert something along the lines of "I've explained it to you several times. You can't articulate what you're failing to understand. Therefore, per the court rules, you are clearly not competent to act as your own counsel, and I will appoint someone to advocate on your behalf if you are unwilling or unable to hire your own attorney."
These people are mentally draining. I appreciate the judge shutting her down and sending her on her way- you don’t know the law. They want to argue “logic”(& that term is used loosely) from their perspective instead of law 🙄
They always seem to argue (flawed thinking) jurisdiction.
I really wish a judge would make them watch a few of the sovcit trials where the defendant is always found guilty by a jury. Maybe that would end some of this bs.
@notme2day most of them don't understand it. This is a tactic "pioneered" by a pseudo-lawyer named Marc Stevens.. he has a UA-cam channel. He tells people to constantly challenged jurisdiction. Ask the same stupid questions over and over again. Say stuff like, "I just need to understand the nature and cause of the action against me."
Stevens was prosecuted by the AZ bar assoclayering. Unlicensed lawyering. Agreed to stop.
@@scottmccrea1873 I'm so thankful I don't live in a sovcidiot area ... only 2 around here. One is known to the police & courts. The other one is one of the smartest guys my family's ever met but, he's not exactly a sovcit.... not sure what he is other than a great neighbor.lol
He doesn't drive, he pays his property taxes but no others taxes. He's basically denounced the goverment. Works only for cash. Doesn't believe in any gov assistance programs. He's in his 70s, very fit and active. He'll probably work till he drops.
The rest of his family isn't like him but, we've all got that one odd duck in the family... or like my family... several of them. 🤣
@@notme2day Guy doesn't sound like a SovCit to me. They usually insist on their "right" to travel, etc. He sounds more like some kind of Thoreauvian radical individualist.
I know there are some here in the Vegas Valley. But I've been told by a retired cop that there are a lot of them in the county to the north of us.
Lotsa of Moorons in Philadelphia which is one of their centers. Varies by place apparently.
@@scottmccrea1873 I live in South Central Virginia.
I know he and his family have a non typical christian type religion but can't remember what it's called, never heard of it before. When his 90+ year old father passed, he had to shave off his beard, can't remember if it was head too or not. I'd first thought it might have something to do with that but like I said... the rest of his family isn't like him *exactly* with the goverment, well not to his extreme any way.
*Edit ohhhh, how I miss living in Vegas. I moved here 23 years ago. Had I not grown up in small town OK, I would have died from culture shock of going from a 24HR town to "what do you mean they close at 6pm?" rural VA, population less than 2500. LOL
"I don't understand."
"Then you aren't qualified to represent yourself."
Thank you Judge, for not letting this crayon-chomper waste the court's time!
😂😂😂
She didn't even say "I comprehend, but don't understand"? I think River on Firefly once said "she understands, she doesn't comprehend".
Judge West made the correct decision, and she displayed admirable restraint while coming to it.
This is a prime example of being your own worst enemy…and quite frankly it is a reliable indicator that this young woman will most likely spend most of her life in a prison for one reason or another.
you are correct.
Well, that takes away from the time that should could be breeding.
The sheer stupidity of this SovCit stuff is mind blowing!
same: flat earth
It's becoming out of control how many of these sovereign citizens think they can beat the system. Their stupidity is endless.
When she is found guilty and in jail she might then understand.
Not soon enough!
It will just reinforce her conviction (pun alert) that the justice system is unjust. She will seek to appeal. When she says she doesn't understand she means she doesn't acknowledge any existing judicial process.
Don't make me laugh. She doesn't understand the maximum penalty for the crime she is charged with is 10 years. I don't think she'll ever understand anything.
No, then criminal lady will claim mistrial and try to claim the judge was racist for doing exactly what criminal lady wanted. 🙄
no, cause she will meet other criminals that will show her how to be a better criminal.
You don't understand what it means to go to prison for "2 to 10 years"? Did someone forget to teach you about time?
Ridiculous.
Stay in school people! Otherwise you turn into this
Amen Amen Amen
I totally agree with you
School wouldn't have helped her.
Sovcits are definitely the people who flunked every class while insisting they're the smartest person in the building
It's not just staying in school. While there you must LISTEN and LEARN or else you are just wasting everyone's time, including your own.
The attorney's face 😂😂😂
She's represented by the law firm of Dunning-Kruger.
Hahahahahahahaha!
I LOVE this judge. She is straight no nonsense keep it moving. Thanks for the updates on this sovereign crazy and this awesome judge.
You dont understand? You need a lawyer.
I love how this judge tells her she lives in the US and the state of Texas, and that the law applies to her.
Those handcuffs are a reminder that the court has jurisdiction over her 😬😬😬
Stood up in front of everyone and declared she was ignorant.
Painfully so
I have to agree with her about one thing - I don’t understand, either. I don’t understand why anyone would rather play these stupid games that NEVER work in court, ending with far longer and more severe sentences, instead of just allowing an actual attorney to represent you and get you the best deal possible.
Do these people WANT to go to jail? Or are they so completely unintelligent that they think they can outsmart the entire judicial system?
I guess she don’t understand why her way is not working 🤪
It is a matter of principle to them: Yes, they want to go to prison because it validates their belief that the system is corrupt and unjust.
@@benrussell-gough1201They want to go to jail, obviously.
"They think they can outsmart the entire judicial system." Yes.
I think there's two fundamental issues:
1) A distrust of authority and Gov't simply because it's authority and Government. It doesn't matter what the specific issue and process are, if "The Man" says so, I ain't listening. So there's an incorrect assumption that the Public Defender's job is to put them away, rather than defend them.
2) Dunning-Kruger. When someone is too stupid to understand their level of ignorance, they over-estimate the value of what they know, or think they know. A smarter person has a handle on what they do and do not know, and the wisdom to rely on experts when needed. The stupid think there isn't anything beyond what they "know" that is *worth* knowing.
Just more reasons to get an education.
I love the judge telling the lawyer that 'this wasn't meant to be any kind of punishment'
The smirk on his face...
Anybody else feel for Mr. Jeffries, the Public Defender here? He just has to let her ramble on until the Judge shuts down her crazy train, and then when she states he’s still on the case all he can do is smile. Welcome to the PD’s office - not just a case, sir, it’s a right of passage!
Excellent,we need judges like this
Tell her to ask Darrell Brooks how representing yourself works out.😂😂😂
That lawyer is probably standing there thinking “please your honor, don’t make me represent this idiot. Set me free.”
"It's not that easy, Counselor. The Court has determined that you did something bad in a prior life, and therefore, you must serve this punishment."
You can’t fix stupid, but you can give it a court date
Absolutely brilliant! 😂
Need that on a T-shirt, or bumper sticker-- that's really spot on!!!!!
Thank goodness the judge wouldn't let her represent herself.
I don't know if she's "challenged" or medicated but she clearly cannot represent herself. More judges should be this tough about it. If they clearly do not understand the law, don't let them pro se
@@scottmccrea1873 It appears she's simply belligerent and delusional. She shouldn't be representing herself if she can't control herself.
@@scottmccrea1873 Mentally challenged in highest degree ................
@@eggsngritstnYeah, she's got "issues" as the kids say.
It should be a broader principle. If someone doesn't understand the basics of how the system works or how laws work, then he or she shouldn't be allowed to go pro se. Ideology aside, there's too much procedural bullshit that has to be complied with and that's really 90% of what lawyers are paid for. They know the "map" of how to do things and we don't. Most cases don't turn on subtle legal reasoning to "make law." People watch too much TV/movies. Most legal stuff is routine, humdrum. Some of it hellishly complex (tax law; environmental regulation) but most of it is just knowing the steps.
I like this judge, she reminds me of our judges, people wanting to represent themselves (almost exclusively sovcits) get three "I do not understands" and they are informed that since they cannot understand, they cannot self represent. For those not in custody, it usually results in them being held in direct contempt, and jailed. For those in custody, the result is usually being taken out of the court before they can get to the level of contempt.
All judges should deny sovcits to represent themselves at the first “I don’t understand”.
Their ridiculous use of the word understanding is crazy. The think it means stand under.😂😂😂 They are too ignorant to see it never works.
Post an order from the chief judge of the courthouse:
“Anyone citing any of the following, sovcit nonsense, is subject to an immediate finding of contempt, with a mandatory minimum 7 days in jail and $500 unwaiveable fine, up to 30 days and a $2,000 fine. For each occurrence. All sentences for contempt on these grounds are to run consecutively.”
Very quickly we will see this stop.
Never understood why this is not locked down by now could it be lawyers make a lot of money from it
I think my cat Larry is SovCit. His beliefs and behavior patterns are very similar to these people. We have a rule of no running in the house and he is constant violation of this rule. He repeats a certain script over and over and over ….its just meow…meow…meow…all the time. He bites my wrist frequently like it’s his right to do so…😻😹😾😸
😂😂😂😂😂😹😹😹
Imagine being her attorney. My heart goes out to him.
The attorney is dealing with a lady who has zero sense.
“I want to represent myself but I can’t understand what you mean by ‘between two and ten…’ but I’m totally capable of everything else.”
It's because the are playing with the word and if you under stand then you are standing under someone. So they usually say that they comprehend
Judges need to put things in the defendant's terms. "Do you know the difference between two and ten grams of meth?" "Damn straight I do."
At what point do these people see that this legal strategy has never worked? You just end up in jail.
Mr. Jeffries looks thrilled.😀 Lucky him. LOL
The judge turned the "I don't understand" mantra of magic words to destroy the defendants choice to represent herself. How can she when she doesn't understand anything?
10 years, no problem. Of course I'll represent myself. What could go wrong.
Add ‘I do not understand’ to the sovcit bingo card 😂
That attorney has a look on his face saying oh thank god I won’t have to go through this.
He has been appointed to her case though soooo... he does get to go through this.
As stand by, he doesn’t present in court proceedings-she does what SovCits do. If she wants to ask him a question in court she can and then keep doing that thing she do. If she is found incompetent, then circumstances change. She can refuse to cooperate with the attorney, it just falls on her.
Poor bastard..hell on earth dealing with clients like this
Judge West is awesome! Sent that foolish SovCit fool on her way quick-smart!
She needs. A competency hearing
No, let these morons walk right into the buzz saw. They're adults and deserve the consequences of their own actions including representing themselves especially after being warned not to by EVERYONE in the court room.
Nah, she's competent, she's playing a game and she's losing. She just doesn't like the outcome so she is pretending it isn't true
Like 99% of the time, they're found competent. It's a low bar.
@@willj1598I think she may be "challenged" (insert whatever Marxist euphemism is currently required). Maybe not legally, but she ain't firing on all cylinders. She's _trying_ to play SovCit games but failing. Which should be an indicator of her cognitive abilities.
@@scottmccrea1873 She's definitely not too bright, she talked herself right into an easily predictable situation. I just think it is willful ignorance and stubbornness as opposed to a cognitive deficit.
I have to ask the question, just in case anybody knows.
Who is making money pumping these gullible people full of nonsense? They are the GOAT of all snake oil salesmen!
Please let her represent herself. She deserves to be proven stupid in a court of law. 😂
"How do you wish to plead? Guilty, Not Guilty, No Contest, or Too Stupid to Know What the Holy Hell is Happening"?
I have a family member who makes this claim. It creates problems in day to day activities.
The appointed attorney IS BITING HIS TONGUE!
"I do not understand" is Sovcit for "I do not agree."
It's a play on words for they stand don't under anyone
@@joshuawidener8407 That's even dumber than it seems at first glance.
@@adrianhenle yeah, they are trying to be as literal with it as you can. It gets worse because in sov cit world, understand something means you stand under the judge which means you create a verbal contract lol.
My mental health has improved since I started using the length of a video as the determining factor of whether I watch it. Thirty minutes? No. Five? Sure, I’m in. It’s a good way to tell whether the judge handles it well.
"I don't understand why I am wearing this orange jumpsuit"
Honestly, they don't because, in their personal world view, they have done nothing wrong.
"Because the jail was out of purple jumpsuits; it's that simple."
@@benrussell-gough1201 which proves how they lack a working brain.
the system worked. the defendant asked to represent herself, which is her right. the judge took her through the process, a process that is designed to protect defendants from themselves, and the process - not the judge - determined by virtue of her answers to the questions that she was not able to represent herself. took 15 minutes. saved the defendant so much. maybe she will see that someday, maybe not. good job all around.
In an argument with my wife I told her "I don't understand" and for some reason that didn't work
I love that lawyer's smile near the end - he just can't hold it in any longer.
4:50 Mr Jeffries was trying to hold back laughter when his client was taken back with the bailiff.
She’ll have plenty of time to think about her poor choices in prison.
The attorney looks just thrilled to hell, knowing that he is representing her.
As long as they get their time to vomit their sovitard bs they're happy. They thing nothing of the consequences or the arrest record. I repeated the tri-fold; I'm a hero.
I don’t understand. That’s their standard response to the word understand. Judges have to ask them if they comprehend, because they refuse to stand under laws or authority.
When you have trouble "Englishing", consequences can accrue. The court has no obligation to comply with their quirks.
Nope, the judge does not have to play their word game. Understand means comprehend, period.
@@Fred2-123i wish judges would ask them what the word "understand" means and when they spew that "to stand under" ask them which dictionary they saw those definitions in. Because no dictionary has that.
Yea, but that's just a dumb word game they are playing that no one else is. They think that's why the judge is asking them if they understand, to trick them into saying that they stand under the law, but the judge isn't doing that. No one else is playing by those rules except for the sovereign citizens, those people are delusional and incredibly confused.
"Not guilty by reason of stupidity" is rarely a successful defense.
So you don't think it will work for Trump? It's kind of all he has.
@@dannycarlow8204 your comments proves you are guilty of being stupid
I bet this woman was a real looker when she stopped going to school at age 14
4:50 I love the Judge's light-hearted demeanor with the Attorney after the defendant is escorted out.
the smile and smirk on the defense attorney's face...is priceless
Be afraid Be very afraid These people live, work and walk amongst us...
_That's_ how you handle the nonsense!
Great job Judge!
The last few seconds reminded me of the movie Head of State. “Security!” … only here the judges says Baliff!
i was thinking of Judge Simpson court..."Mr Allen.."
Sov Cits have this weird idea that Understanding means to stand under, so if they are asked do you comprehend, they would still say not because they are really really dumb.
When Sov cits think their above the law stood in court handcuffed makes me laugh.
2 to 10 years with an extra 5 for using the SovCit defense.
She really has no idea how badly representing yourself can go. 🇦🇺 😊
Well at least she has time to learn some stuff now.
Being an adult is super hard for the sovereign.
The judge was as patient as if explaining calculus to a tree stump, with the same possibility of success.
SovCit's are about as relevant as a FlatEarther.
These people say they don’t understand anything but they want to be their own lawyer…it’s a joke and a complete waste of time. Oh ya and it makes me sick 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Thank you judge. We'll done!
🤣Aw, keep trying sovcits, one day...one day it'll work, you just have to believe hard enough.
“I don’t understand” = I don’t stand under your jurisdiction.
The double irony of shooting yourself in the foot because you now HAVE to be represented, but also helping yourself by being represented.
It’s must be hard being so mentally stopped up.
Sovereign: "We are above Law!"
Judge: "Not in this court".
To keep saying " I don't understand " does NOT set you FREE ! You'll still go to jail .
“Have you ever studied the law?”
“Yes. I have studied the law”
UA-cam doesn’t count, genius. 🙄
I don't understand is sovereign citizen stupid for "I don't stand under" meaning the don't agree to be subject to the law.
It doesn't mean anything at all of course.
"I do not understand" is SovCit-eze for "I refuse to understand."
I think the judge was extraordinarily patient given the nonsense she had to deal with.
Kudos to the judge. The higher courts have ruled uniformly, in all jurisdictions, that the arguments put forth by these fools are frivolous because they lack any legal merit whatever. And, being frivolous, they can be dismissed summarily, that is, without argument or even explanation. Very few judges have gotten that memo, but this one has and does it right.
Because that memo doesn't exist. You are however correct in that, judges themselves often tend to use a logical fallacy called _reductio ad absurdum_ whereby they seek to single out one frivolous aspect of a pro-se litigant's defense and then invalidate their entire defense because of it. Doesn't mean they can't be called out on it.
@@JLova82 The phrase "he didn't get the memo" is recognized by well read people as a kind of ironic aphorism. As for invalidating a whole case because of a procedural frivolity, I've never seen it, don't believe it's happened, and if it did it would not only be squashed by an appeals bench, it would also earn a sanction on the judge who did it. Not credible.
If only she had asked, "Do you comprehend?"
Why would that make a difference?
@@frankw7091 What I have gathered, they don't stand under laws, so they can't agree to understanding things. That's why they can only answer they comprehend.
It’s sov cit language apparently. They seem to be ok saying they “comprehend” but not that they “understand”.
@@patrickcameron2950 Good point.
@@frankw7091Sovcits are taught that if they “understand” something that means they “stand under” the cops’ authority. Since they are sovereign, that means they’ve formed a contract, and that’s bad. The way to get around this is to say “do you comprehend?”
This Judge is amazing. I would have lost it on the third time…
Mr. Jefferies reaction when he was told that he'd continue being her lawyer was wonderful, just that minor head tilt and quick glance to the ceiling in reaction, seen it (and done it) a billion times working in customer service industry--the classic, "Ah fv
I'll translate: she doesn't understand she could get anything up to 10 years in jail because she's decided she doesn't want any jail time at all.
Judge should have asked her if she understands her guilt or innocence is absolutely not up to her.
Looks like the sov-cit bleat of "I do not understand," intended to wear down "the system" much as a toddler's tantrum wears down their parents, backfired royally on this defendant.
That poor public defender was.like...Damn damn damn how'd I get this awful case...
Why can't the courts do something about the poor audio from the defense side of things?
Yeah it was impossible to hear what the defendant is saying. Also in many other courts it seem alike they have hired a guy to sit and fold newspapers during the trial right next to the mic
They don't do this for our entertainment. Just saying.
Because some people speak softly. If the judge and jury can hear it's not a problem.
“Sovereign citizen arguments have no basis in law and have never been successful in any court. The movement may appeal to people facing financial or legal difficulties or wishing to resist perceived government oppression. As a result, it has grown significantly during times of economic or social crisis.”
And you would know that, how? Are you privy to the goings-on of every single court in the world?
@@JLova82 since it would be very rare that they win it would make news and be on UA-cam/TikTok instantly..the people that sell (grift) the SOVCIT get out of jail free kits would make sure the world know that a SOVCIT won a case..
We also have at least 20 channels here on UA-cam that watch thousands of court cases..not to mention some courts do live feeds ..now as far as the world or the galaxy or universe .....feel free to post a link to a court case somewhere in the world, galaxy, universe where a SOVCIT won their case...or if no link post a case number and the jurisdiction i would love to read the transcript..
Very impressive judge
Where do there learn this nonsense? It has never ever worked. Ever.
Lawyers set complicated long winded procedures so they make LOTS of money in pointless paperwork and proceedings
Who are these complete oblivious people??? 🤦🏻♀️
Mr Jeffries does not look very enthusiastic about being assigned to represent this person.
Very,very,very,very DIM!
The judge is very patient!
That lady really showed the Judge who’s in charge. The Judge. Gravel pit time!
I enjoyed the point blank, in your face, facts and not idiocy.