Btw, if you completed Kinich, Mualani, Xilonen and Chasca's Act 3 Tribal Quests as well as the Ochkanatlan world quests series. The NPCs you met will appear as well. Like the fake daughter from Xilonen's quest will give you her blessing, the Mountain King from Kinich's quest will appear, so yeah....just want to share this
I was wondering what would happen if I didn't do the quests. Seeing Gible (Saurian Companion), Nepecha/Neccha, Coco and the girl (I forgot her name lmao), Och kan, and Mountain King made it even better for my experience
That's pretty cool, they appeared for me so I was thinking about how confusing it must be for those who didn't do the tribal chronicles, I guess they just don't appear if that's the case
I haven’t done a single quest (character, world, tribe) outside of archon quest in Natlan and yea they dont appear in the quest. I have not a single clue who they are either. 😅
ooooooh!! so they only appear if you finished the quests?? thats so cool!! cos i recognised them and wondering if others would know who they are. Love that!
True Capitano fans should love the fact that our "MAN" got his peace and went out like a champ. Maybe they somehow make him Playable but even if hoyo doesn't (which would suck) but I will always love and resepct how his character is written and his sense of honor.
I am happy for him, that he's finally able to rest and he was able to achieve his goal. This doesn't bode well for more playable tall male characters, though 🥲🥲🥲
because they leave room for playable Capitano. Signora turned to dust. they did the same for Xbalanque. they set up a chance for his revival thru finding a vessel
If this is truly the end, I feel like it works so well as it feels like a solid conclusion to his character story. Natlan has given us his full story, character and motivations and so even if he isn't playable, he feels complete, the ending feels like a natural conclusion to his story compared to Signora who, while I didn't care about her, still felt like she had more of a story to tell. It also helps that he died getting a 1 UP on a Shade.
For those asking. The #1 Harbinger is still Capitano. The Tsaritsa chose to preserve his seat, meaning, there won’t be any other #1 Harbinger aside from him.
People can crap on natlan hard all they want, but to me it’s underlying theme was mainly that of grief, loss and moving forwards in the face of adversity…it shows you how they all kept moving as a nation despite living in such deep danger with the abyss, the loss and grief of seeing the number rise of deaths during the war, i think it did such a great job showcasing these things, and the reminder that in natlan, nobody fights alone
People expected Natlan to be the nation that does war like invading and conquering other nations or fighting each other, but the Natlan that Hoyo gave is not about that, it’s about being on the receiving end of war and the gravity of it, why it’s important to keep bringing hope and support each other to be able to survive. Personally, I like that better than letting war be glorified as a badass thing to do when really it’s the worst.
@@creamykitty17it was never gonna be about invading the other regions, that was a given considering we already kinda have Snezhnaya doing that (albeit not directly). I feel Hoyo actually did solid for Natlan's story and i dont think the story ends here either. Mavuika mentioned the possibility of another Harbinger of coming, so there is definitely going to be more 'war'. Also I agree on the glorification of war, and have pointed this exact same thing out to people who were dissing the story for being lame, they seem to forget war isnt something to enjoy at all.
While Furina may have had my favorite character storyover her Archon Quest, Natlan has been my favorite regional Archon Quest so far. It's just so beautifully written.
honestly, i think this is the first time we have this much involvement from the entire nation in the archon quest. Besides Inazuma, which didn't even give us a hero parade at the end but made traveler do all the work, I feel like the entire nation was in on the quest, not just the main character cast. I first get this feeling back in Sumeru where so much team work was involved and traveler was crucial in the story. Fontaine feels like I was pretty sidelined, and I understand why traveler even hesitated about helping Fontaine when he first arrive. I feel like the entire story of Fontaine could've happened even without the traveler being there, and the nation didn't even know what really happened in the end cause nothing is recorded or announced. But Natlan brought back this sense of teamwork for me, they even solidify the facts of the story with a monument and having world impacting changes based on traveler's actions. Like Jon didn't have Bona and the child from Xilonen's quest join the fight in the Night kingdom because he didn't do these quests yet and I got to see them in mine.
It is really rewarding seeing who shows up in this quest. People from past quests, from the tribal chronicles, even from the world quests. This climax didn’t feel like it was just the Traveler and Mavuika fighting, but all of Natlan was with them as well.
Interesting. There were more spirits of NPCs when I did the quest. Those were from world quests. So it just cuts them out if you didn't do the corresponding quest.
It looks like. Compared to mine, he was missing at least Nechca from the Xilonen quest, since she and the other NPCs had some lines saying that despite her being a kid she was really useful in the battle (or something like that).
Honestly I knew that either capitono was gunna sacrifice himself or do something but I just can't wait for the Dane quest to see his reaction to capitano sacrifice
Why people always pay attention to anyone else except MC??? I was screaming and giggling watching this cute scene but not because of Paimon but because my Aether is the cutest ❤❤❤ He deserves more attention, stop ignoring him 😭❤ Although maybe it's a good thing, this way I will be his only true wife who deeply cares about him unlike anyone else hehe
I totally lost it then Ayo hugged his grandma, the way he curled up in her lap, the cute baby Saurian sound, the fact that the grandpas preferred to stay with him, this reminded me when Karkata didn’t understand about death and he tried to “repair” his human friend
Ppl in chat actually angry about Capitano dying, while it is explained multiple times this is what he wanted and he's reached a happy ending...ppl are crazy Or even cringing about Traveler dancing and celebrating A LEGENDARY VICTORY finishing an era of doom and pain ...what is this world anymore?! 😭😭
Yes except the celebrating took place for most of the quest and the legendary victory was…incredibly underwhelming. In story it makes sense but the pacing was wretched. The party felt unearned.
@@nandog2597 It always shocks me how people count "power of friendship" as a bad thing. Like, no tropes are bad, it's all about execution. If power of friendship was bad always no one would play persona and the like.
@@talisa222 so sorry that a nation that went through a lot of turmoil partying and uplifting itself is such an offense to you. Of course it takes most of the quest cus Mavuika was using it as a distraction to stall the Traveler. What OP find insane is that people are hating on the fact that the people of Natlan are celebrating and holding feasts to uplift their morales along this strenuous war. Like are people not allowed to find some happiness in the face of tragedy? Even in WW2, both sides stopped fighting for a bit to celebrate Christmas, are you gonna tell these WW2 veterans that what they did was cringe and unearned? Also, what Jon didn't do was play the story and world quest, which contributed more characters to the fight in the night kingdom. And the fact that the Abyss mimic the voice of Xblanque to taunt and insult Mavuika by calling her a failure as an Archon amidst the fight. And mimicing a dragon that once almost destroyed Natlan as well. Again alot of these great details lore skippers would miss and complain about it being underwhelming is laughable.
everyone angry because capitano is "dead" me happy because he's finally free if you are a true capitano fan be happy for this man who achieve his vengeance his rebellion against the divine
@@RENINE28.8 Nevermind the simps, we will always pay respects and tributes to the fallen just as how we do to the soldiers in our countries. You have fought well, Sentinel Knight.
Daym,i didn't expect Capitano backstory was that deep,he deserve better,and hoyo just give the freedom,i'm cooked when i know Capitano never sleep because the sound of soul he hold in his body 🥲
Huh, I had Bona and Coco appear between Vichama and Guthred. So the completion of quests impacts who you meet in the final battle then. Since the Chronicle is incomplete yet, I wonder if Hoyo will retroactively add more people when the new quests come out
Missing out on potential NPCs from Collective and Plenty tribal quest, Little one's final world quest at that volcano, and probably the NPCs from upcoming Varesa and Ifa's quest (if they are five stars)
So basically the heavenly principles aren’t these foreboding forces, they’re just chilling and then saw the sinners and were like, “guys.. we have ONE RULE.”
I don't feel like it's *ever* justified to genocide an entire civilization, most of whom are innocent, for the mistakes of a handful of people - and Teyvat's history implies that Celestia/The Heavenly Principles have done this *multiple* times, not just with Khaenri'ah. They also colonized the planet by subjugating and systematically disempowering its original inhabitants, go to exorbitant and suspicious lengths to hide the fact that they're not from Teyvat, and set rules for humanity to follow that most of humanity doesn't even know are in place. Even in the few cases where people know that these rules exist, they're not given a reason for them - and any parent knows that setting a rule without explaining why it's necessary/should be followed is A) basically bait for the rule to be tested by the curious and B) begging for it to fail. Even IF the Heavenly Principles do actually have the stated intent of protecting Teyvat from the Abyss, they're *still* tyrannical, arrogant colonizers prone to throwing tantrums over the slightest perceived threat to their rule, and I don't think any twist they can throw in at this point can make me respect them.
i'm really glad you enjoyed it! i honestly was a bit disappointed with it but whenever i feel disappointed by a quest, watching you or arnold play always makes me appreciate it much more because your enthusiasm is infectious
Fun fact: if you did the tribal quests, when you talk to the tribe leader right before fighting the abyss, the interaction will be slightly different because they bring in character from the tribal quest. I did the first 3 so there was a small child, the dendro saurian boss and an uncle iykyk
I mean I would rather have his ending in the archon quest than him being playable because if you think about its either he rest in peace from the torture of his rotting body or keep on living and enduring more of his torture
The only Archon quest that genuinely made me cry. Paimon giving me encouraging words and believing in me... Paimon really is our travel companion and a great guide❤️😭
Me too. There will defnitely be more to come, there has to be. This whole story has been hype all the way and is going to be more hype in future. I'm intrigued about Nod Krai and the other shades of the heavenly principles too. Imagine if Dain were to meet one of them. :O He hates them the most, so that would be crazy!
I just finished this quest and absolutely love it. What I really like about natlan is about how involved the world/npc. We saved nations in the past and we are pretty famous but I never felt that way in the world and I love how natlan really put an effort and truly recognized the traveler. Definitely love the lil photo op and celeb moments 😂 I was a bit spoiled about the captain so I knew it was coming and I'm emotionally prepared this time, still devastated we might not get him playable but mavuika hinted another harbinger coming for the gnosis, hoping for columbina 🤞
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE QUEST. I just hated that Capitano had to go but I’m happy for him. Every scene was absolutely beautiful and I may have shed a tear. Thank you Hoyoverse for another amazing archon quest wrap up!!❤❤
seeing someone say tht natlan whole arc is literally just my little pony equestria girl is sooo funny bcs in a sense they actually use “with the magic of friendship” type of writing lol
Capitano is similar to loki, in the end they both sit on the throne forever while holding roots of the world, loki holding yggdrasil and capitano holding ley lines so that their people get to live, and i also notice capitano before wearing the mask looks like blade from hsr, and they both cursed with immortality too😮
1:40:43 Don’t know did anyone mention alr. But u will see more people who appear in their tribe quest in the area where u say goodbye, and more people after ur journey in the night kingdom if u do the world quest
Spoiler alert: U’ll meet dendro dragon in kinich’s quest, little girl in xilonen’s quest, mualani talk about her journey in her quest, chasca’s sister in the area. Meet another girl from xilonen’s quest, female adventurer and the old natlan’s king from world quest later in night kingdom
@@welsonchiang3320 no wonder i was shocked that some of characters missing like mountain king, and bona from ochkanatlan. maybe he still hasn´t done the world quest and tribe quest
@@I.disagree You immediately get C6. The Blazing Flint Ore upgrades the constellations to make Pyro Trav cons usable outside of the Weekly boss. Though they still keep the Weekly boss cons Just discovered that 5 minutes ago
@@miasimp9044 Oh so the constellations that work against gosoythoth are given by default and the ones that are not boss-restricted need the blazing flint?
Compared to other nation, Natlan is more lighthearted in most of the time, except for Act 4 which was pure war depression. I'm still not sure how I'll rank Natlan arc compared to the other nations, though I think emotionally speaking, Sumeru & Fontaine still at the top, but for how they wrap the story, I think Natlan arc might be the 2nd best because of the sense of ancomplishment. And I'm also glad how Traveller's element is now a thing with a whole cutscene awakening. Also that freekin stare in 2:22:08 was EPIC AS AF. As for the best moment so far in this quest, for me personally it's the moment when Ronova "shows" herself. Those eyes on the sky was straight up terrifying and change the whole quest mood instantly. Edit: I don't realize this since I play JP dub, but dang EG dub for the enemy actually going really hard this time.
Yeah I'm conflicted because emotionally I wasn't attached to the Natlan AQ series, but it had some cool moments and all around mihoyo experimented with new ways of story execution which I appreciate, and we got new lore relevations too which is nice. On the other hand I feel like they regressed in the dialogue department, even worse pacing than before and I felt the repetition was overboard, sometimes the same thing being talked about for long minutes, with different characters repeating the exact same thing right after each other. I know dialogue was never mihoyos strong suite but I felt like it was worse than ever before. Also I don't feel like Mauvika's character was properly fleshed out, his whole character is just being disciplined and committed to doing this one plan, but nothing else. I feel like all other archons had a deeper story and she's been done dirty, just make her hot and sell her with a leather bike suit (motorcycle included lol). So all in all I feel like Natlan arc is below Fontaine and Sumeru, and I'm conflicted on giving it a better or worse rating than Inazuma. The new experimentations and lore are cool, but like, Natlan is supposed to be the nation of war and I felt the effects and presentation of war better in the Inazuma arc, and Raiden's story was also better written than Mauvika's IMO. I'll sleep on it, do the story quests and finish the world quests and decide later, but this is how I feel right now.
@@jonnyjoker01 I think the core reason Act 5 of Natlan didn't go as hard was mainly because Act 4 is much well executed and is like epilogue of Natlan Aq. In a sense, Act 4 was the true climax of Natlan quest as that quest is where Mavuika's 500 years plan to use divine power happened, and it also happen in the middle of the greatest war of Natlan with much higher stakes compared to Act 5 which very well portrayed Natlan as the nation of war. Due to how crazy Act 4 was and mixed with Act 5 got stretch to 1 more version, we had MUCH higher expectation on act 5 in comparison to any Nation on the same act and thinking it'll have a very unexpected plot twist, which is not really happening except for Ronova's terrifying appearance. What make it worse is how 5.3 pv spoiled the climax moment of Mavuika and Traveller final blow. Overall, I might still rank Natlan higher than Inazuma AQ, solely because of Natlan Act 4 alone which is easily 8.5/10, (and Inazuma so called "war" was underwhelming af). That said though, I do also admit that epilogue tend to be the most important act other than the opening act, and Inazuma have like one of the best if not the most hype epilogue climax of Archon quest even though they use the typical "power of friendship" power.
@@FireBlueZ I dunno I see it a bit differently. While I agree that Inazuma's depiction of the actual war wasn't that great, overall you could feel the tension from the moment you set foot in Ritou, all throughout the end of the AQ. In the end it resulted in a climax that felt more impactful at least for me, because we finally resolved a conflict that went on through 5 acts. I feel like the stakes weren't properly conveyed to us. We arrived in Natlan to be met with sunshine and rainbows, had 3 acts of 90% cheery atmosphere except for a few moments, and then had one act of actual war - which I agree was pretty well made, but to me it felt less emotionally impactful, because of the previous 3 acts, didn't feel properly set up. The "tension" was mostly only set up with dialogue, repeated multiple times throughout, which was kind of lame. And while the war itself was interestingly executed, it didn't make up for the weird pacing for me personally. Then the last act tries to build upon the emotions we had previously by revisiting everything that happened in the previous 4 acts, as well as side stories, but since I already didn't feel emotionally attached to them, it didn't work on me. I see what they were going for but plot wise very little actually happened during these acts, there was just too much filler due to them wanting to keep the atmosphere lighthearted for too long.
Natlan act 5 was a bit weaker compared to Fontaine Act 5 for me but then again, Natlan act 5 was like 4h and Fontaine Act 5 was 6h. But overall I like Natlan more. Sure the the quests might not have been character driven but I like it that way too. They are trying free their nation from a never ending war after all.
This was PEAK!! Natlan's story was epic, Mavuika is the most Archon-like Archon (she is the best at this point), and the Captain is the Legend of Legends. edit: The people that cry about Natlan for any reason, just can't comprehend the world and story of the game. This was pure perfection.
Imo mavuika is too perfect, there is no struggle for her in this quest, she doesn't even try to stop Capitano from sacrificing himself. If they gave an actual depth to Mavuika (that is there in lore but isn't shown at all) and showed more Capitano's suffering (which is, again, all lore no show) it would have been way better. Cool idea, questionable execution (especially a pool party in Act V, come on)
WAIT A GODDAMN SECODN GUYS if everyone remembers then columbina was also supposed to be in natlan now if i am correct i dont think capitano was able to give the gnosis of pyro to the tsaritsa (he was busy in this stuff) so after his death maybe columbina will come in place of him FOR THE GNOSIS...so this will be the bets way to make her entrance! Just a theory guys Oh and rip captain
(P.S. Remember to talk to the two Fatui by the waypoint in Mondstat after the quest guys) I love the fact that when you do the world quests and the tribal Chronicles all the characters appear right as we enter the night kingdom. I was so hapoy to see Bona and Cocouik aka Och-Kan, Nepecha, the Mountian King, Chasca and her Saurian sister and all of them there. And Mallko and Vichama bro!!! Tears!!! It was so surreal and felt so emotional. I wonder if people who didn't do the quests see them too? Any way it was such a nice detail. Ronova in the sky bro. Scary AF and Capitano...Captain my Captain such a beautiful character. Salute to the Captain, the Sentinel Knight of Khaenriah. 😢😢 Edit: 1:35:00 - that answers my question. So only if you did the world quests and chronicles will certain characters appear. I like that detail a lot. Look at Genshin finally having consequences for choices lol 1:50:04 Wish Nechca was in the scene. 1:53:23 Ugh I was expecting Bona and Cocouik noooooooo haha 3:25:30 My funeral site said 2106 people died...Good job Jon. You had a lower deathtoll haha
I know people are gonna be mad he's not playable, but I actually love this ending for Capitano. The end of this quest was the first time since the release of Natlan where I felt like a Big Moment in a character's story was determined 100% by the actual character, based on what they would actually do based on their established ideals and motivations. Mavuika by contrast has always felt more like a plot device to me than a well realized character, so I REALLY enjoyed Capitano's reasoning, his strategy and his clear emotional fulfillment. He (and Pierro) are playing 4D chess
@@arielalmada1606 I get your disappointment, really, but you redeem blazing flint ore at his throne for pyro Traveler cons so he is part of a permanent mechanic now.
@@kiaradoesart9682 Yeah that doesnt mean nothing,he Still have the sticker,the profile image,his model labeled as a character unlike Signoras one that was labeled like a Monster,his sword that have a Lore ralated name and was leaked that have a code in the files that is unique for characters or some bosses,the thing is, that they dont need to make him left the Throne to make him playable,like honkai a lot of bosses are characters
Captain is forced to forever stay with the ruler of death, just waiting, forever, nothing will come for him. He is basically a prisoner without a prison
Bars. Everybody saying he's resting now, but you nailed it on the head. He achieved his goal and saved his people and Natlan's laylines, but it will still be a lonely, never ending existence. I feel like his true 'happy ending' would be saving the souls, and actually dying or at least BEING ABLE to die.
@@opalakv4ob i bet he wants a rest at minimum...die is bonus. remember that he is constantly hearing souls inside of him and with how he got a chance to "rest" or "nap" forever, is still a better option than living in agonizing hearing screeching voices 24/7.
Watching it now after i finish the archon quest myself-that's the reason why Capitano's left chest is oozing of aura or something in the beginning cause he's carrying it all along for 500 years 🥲 Mad RESPECT for my man!
this was cinema,we finally got a completely plot driven arc rather than character driven and it was SOOO GOOD.No shade against Fontaine and Sumeru,they are absolutely peak as well except some filler plot like Meropide and Desert hospital etc,but Natlan really felt so much more refreshing.So much more worldbuilding instead of just focusing on character stories,actual plot progress abotu Celestia involvement,and finally some time for our MC to shine.It was peak.
I don't care what anyone says. This was a beautifully done quest. Absolutely heartbreaking with a bitter sweet ending. It was a little winded in a couple parts but at this point it's expected from genshin. Tons of hints in Mavuikas questions at the end too. Can't wait for whats to come in Nod Krai and the rest of Genshin.
@voidb0rn211 pool party lol. It was definitely supposed to be a distraction so Mavuika could get ahead, but I agree. A little more Capitano lore would have been amazing. I know I'm coping super hard but I dont believe genshin is done with him.
Loved this quests so much. I cried when Paimin and the Traveler reunited and when they were all singing for us. I love this region so much and I can't wait to visit the Collective of Plenty.
Nah you missed a lot like if complete whole ockanatlan and tribals chronicles then you will get special interaction during that time when we said goodbye and those npc will even be in the quest if you completed it and not only that all of them will be in pilgrim chronicles
I love how Mavuika's weapon is literally a torch; We're carrying the torch for Natlan's people and history, ensuring that it's not forgotten and continues to grow in the future.
This archon quest is an all-star cast. The six heroes, the six chiefs of the tribes, some side characters of each tribal reputation quests, even Bona and Cocouik (Och-Kan vessel) at the Ochkanatlan world quest is present (and surprisingly, voiced). And this archon quest is the only quest where a literal crowd of people is present. 😅 Note: For those who haven't finished the Tribal Reputation quests and the Ochkanatlan world quest, you will not see Nechca and Bona with Cocouik (Och-Kan vessel) at the quest, and they are voiced. 🙃
The havenly principle have the budget, but she wasn't decided to give that budget to Xbalanque, probably because, she know the dragons would come back in future, if she hold the budget and leave Natlan on its own, then when the dragons comes back, she can use that budget to defeat the abyss and the dragons in one strike, when they fight each others. A good plan for the entire Teyvat, but Natlan would take all the damage alone, most likely would completely lost The death archon gave budget to Xbalanque way ahead of the plan, that is great risks she took, if Natlan failled on defeat the abyss, or failled on solve the dragon problem, that would creat a even bigger hole, and I doubt the death archon had anything else to fill it But so far so good, at least in Natlanee's hands, the original budget has not only secured, but even made great profits, they have enough strengh to deal with the incomming dragon problem in both peaceful or non peaceful ways The death achon even managed saved Mavuika, by allow the captain to replace her, that gave Natlan even better cards to solve the next problem The death archon is such a good boss…
OMG the night kingdom interaction is differ with your progress For example i have finish ochkanatlan quest, and in the night kingdon ochkan the Phyton king soul give some word of encouragement
I knew it was going to happen. I was expecting some twist. But ah nothing unexpected happened. I love the look of ruler of death. Who will come to take Pyro genosis. Also cryo arcon is so chill. Caption said i wanna leave. She be like "okay" 😂. From what mavuvika said. Dattore is cooking something like in Nord kai. Just like he did sumeru. I'm expecting something BIG. he won't disappoint i guess.
AHH I’ve just noticed that hutao was able to buy a new outfit after all that happened in natlan help 😭 (since she works in a mortuary she made stonks with all of the war thing 😭)
Is it just me or is there a lot of hate surrounding Natlan while some have valid criticism...most are just hating for the sake of it, for example, they hate the Traveler for recognition...yet these are the same people who whine about the traveller taking a backseat in previous archon quests, and just in general misinformation all over the place from Mavuika being a mary sue...despite the amount of sacrifice, she had to make as a human and an archon, not enough war despite Act 4 and many stories revolving around war, etc...and this is just the tip of the mountain. In fact, they had to resort to pointing at Fontaine and Sumeru which while Sumeru is better... let's not act like Fontaine had all bangers, Act 3-4, anyone...yea the Fortress Arc isn't good while the Natlan archon quest was all solid...none of them were bad like I think Fontaine got heavily carried by Act 1-2 and 5 which don't get me wrong, Fontaine is still an amazing archon quest at the end of the day but, I think it is time to take off the glasses and take a good look at Natlan overall archon quest in a vacuum. It isn't perfect but I still enjoyed Natlan Archon's quest from beginning to end. Oh also to try and paint Natlan as even worse then Inzamua is just objectively wrong...like no despite Natlan faults, it is 100% times better then that failure of Inazuma.
The thing about Genshin fans on the internet is that I think they just want to be angry. They want to hate the game, and they want to see the bad in everything because that’s what gets them the clicks. Especially on places like Twitter, Hoyo could do something crazy like give out every archon for free, and people on there would still find a reason to call the Genshin team greedy or stingy. The best way to handle those kinds of people is to just ignore them man, and don’t take what they say seriously if it’s not a genuine valid criticism. I guarantee you that by the end of 5.8, those same people will be saying Natlan was peak.
Look I love Natlan and I don't like hating, but Act 5 Natlan barely had an emotional hook. I would have loved to see the spirits of all her family members helping her in the final battle or even a sequence showing her personal struggles like Furina. This was done very well in the previous acts but I thought they'd take it a step further and make the tears run in Act 5. Plus the quest was very straightforward, everything happened according to plan and even if it didn't it barely took any time to resolve itself, it had no impact. Imo too much time was spent on fillers like the People of the Springs celebration. The important cutscenes like the boss fight and Gosoythoth were all smashed together and had no separation. Everything happened so quickly and yet so slowly at the same time. And the traveler parade should have taken place after Capitano's death. It didn't fit right in the middle of two heavy topics. Tldr: The pacing was bad, it was shorter than I and it wasn't as emotional as the previous AQ climaxes.
@@idkatthispoint-s9s Umm...to be honest, I am fine with a more straightforward story as we had two complex plots in the previous two archon quests so a simple plot is kind of refreshing, don't get me wrong it is not as good as the two previous archon quest but I still enjoyed it. "And the traveler parade should have taken place after Capitano's death. It didn't fit right in the middle of two heavy topics." ehh...no, I honestly, don't think it would have fit and instead would have just made it worse. Like, imagine this...we complete an epic battle, then are dragged onto a sad death scene of a chad warrior then we celebrate as if it was nothing, doesn't that sound a bit wrong? So yea, I think the way they set it up is fine because celebrating after the Captain gives a big chad energy against the gods and showing us his past then we just dance on top of his grave sounds horrible and would made it worse. Imagine this in Fontaine, we defeat the whale then we learn of Focolar's plan and then she sacrifices herself...afterwards we celebrate, sounds a bit grading doesn't it?
@@ymupaem Eh... yeah I don't think anyone actually calls Inazuma one of the best even to this day, it is still rightfully called one of the worst and to be honest...Yeah I can agree, even looking back on it. It was just a complete dumpster fire from beginning to end, it had a couple of cool scenes from Raiden's introduction and Raiden's blade getting parried by Kazuka but everything else was just horrific rushed, and messy in terms of plot points like the civil war story got dropped as quickly as brought up...also Teppi, man you deserve better, interesting idea but the execution was just poor.
I cried when he begun walking up stairs to the throne 😭😭. He deserves to live a peaceful life not be friends to eternity 😢.I want to see childe reaction . His idol is gone
Oh my goodness. This quest was so good. AHHHHHHHH
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Btw, if you completed Kinich, Mualani, Xilonen and Chasca's Act 3 Tribal Quests as well as the Ochkanatlan world quests series. The NPCs you met will appear as well. Like the fake daughter from Xilonen's quest will give you her blessing, the Mountain King from Kinich's quest will appear, so yeah....just want to share this
I was wondering what would happen if I didn't do the quests. Seeing Gible (Saurian Companion), Nepecha/Neccha, Coco and the girl (I forgot her name lmao), Och kan, and Mountain King made it even better for my experience
That's pretty cool, they appeared for me so I was thinking about how confusing it must be for those who didn't do the tribal chronicles, I guess they just don't appear if that's the case
I haven’t done a single quest (character, world, tribe) outside of archon quest in Natlan and yea they dont appear in the quest. I have not a single clue who they are either. 😅
only cocouik and bona who didnt appear in my quest bcs i didnt touch ochkanatlan until few days before mavuika release 😭
ooooooh!! so they only appear if you finished the quests?? thats so cool!! cos i recognised them and wondering if others would know who they are. Love that!
Daaaaaaamn the contrast between Dottore and Capitano bruh. Capitano has my full respect.
Now that Capitano is gone Dotorre aka doctor will be no.1 rank Fatui Harbinger
So he will start his evil plans now
@@TojiFushiguro-p He is not, go to the city of Mondstadt and see what the 2 fatui's next to the tp say
@@TojiFushiguro-pthe tsaritsa kept capitano rank 1
I love how that 2 Fatui in Mondstadt is our source of intel from Snezhnaya. Hahahaha
The doctor will probably be the most disgusting
Pay your condolences to the Captain. Press F for respect.
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True Capitano fans should love the fact that our "MAN" got his peace and went out like a champ. Maybe they somehow make him Playable but even if hoyo doesn't (which would suck) but I will always love and resepct how his character is written and his sense of honor.
it would be disrespectful and silly to bring him back, hes literally holding shit together for us.
well said my friend
he is extremely well written character
I am happy for him, that he's finally able to rest and he was able to achieve his goal.
This doesn't bode well for more playable tall male characters, though 🥲🥲🥲
“Pale flame lay waste to this frozen shell and witness my suffering!”
-La Signora mains rn.
(Aka me)
@@1313fina It's like you all forgot that Ifa is still going to be playable at some point and Dainsleif, even if that is further in the future.
The absolute aura of Capitano on the throne
Hollow knight pale king moment
Glorious Purpose
+9000 aura
Bro casually got infinite aura just by sitting
"There must aways be a lich king"
Capitano's conclusion is much more satisfactory than Signora. Never knew, never cared
Because they killed Signora for shock value, it's not comparable at all to Capitano's death which was actually a good one.
because they leave room for playable Capitano. Signora turned to dust. they did the same for Xbalanque. they set up a chance for his revival thru finding a vessel
I don't think Capitano is in conclusion yet. We definitely would get him in the future
@@tartagliasjigglydworshipper guys....hear me out....what if.....Capitano and Xblanque.....
If this is truly the end, I feel like it works so well as it feels like a solid conclusion to his character story. Natlan has given us his full story, character and motivations and so even if he isn't playable, he feels complete, the ending feels like a natural conclusion to his story compared to Signora who, while I didn't care about her, still felt like she had more of a story to tell. It also helps that he died getting a 1 UP on a Shade.
For those asking. The #1 Harbinger is still Capitano. The Tsaritsa chose to preserve his seat, meaning, there won’t be any other #1 Harbinger aside from him.
I thought it was Pierro?
@Lovelyyetlonely He's the Director of Fatui. "Harbingers" are part of "Fatui", and "Fatui" is an organization under the Tsaritsa.
@Lovelyyetlonelyit literally read he was first when he was introduced
Even in "death", he's still ranked one. Truly the GOAT.
@Lovelyyetlonely pierro is like No. 0
Bruh Capitano just had screentimes from the beginning of the quest and to the end of it and still, he PEAKED.
Have a good rest now, Capitano.
People can crap on natlan hard all they want, but to me it’s underlying theme was mainly that of grief, loss and moving forwards in the face of adversity…it shows you how they all kept moving as a nation despite living in such deep danger with the abyss, the loss and grief of seeing the number rise of deaths during the war, i think it did such a great job showcasing these things, and the reminder that in natlan, nobody fights alone
People expected Natlan to be the nation that does war like invading and conquering other nations or fighting each other, but the Natlan that Hoyo gave is not about that, it’s about being on the receiving end of war and the gravity of it, why it’s important to keep bringing hope and support each other to be able to survive. Personally, I like that better than letting war be glorified as a badass thing to do when really it’s the worst.
@@creamykitty17it was never gonna be about invading the other regions, that was a given considering we already kinda have Snezhnaya doing that (albeit not directly). I feel Hoyo actually did solid for Natlan's story and i dont think the story ends here either. Mavuika mentioned the possibility of another Harbinger of coming, so there is definitely going to be more 'war'. Also I agree on the glorification of war, and have pointed this exact same thing out to people who were dissing the story for being lame, they seem to forget war isnt something to enjoy at all.
natland is a good region idc what others say
While Furina may have had my favorite character storyover her Archon Quest, Natlan has been my favorite regional Archon Quest so far. It's just so beautifully written.
honestly, i think this is the first time we have this much involvement from the entire nation in the archon quest. Besides Inazuma, which didn't even give us a hero parade at the end but made traveler do all the work, I feel like the entire nation was in on the quest, not just the main character cast. I first get this feeling back in Sumeru where so much team work was involved and traveler was crucial in the story. Fontaine feels like I was pretty sidelined, and I understand why traveler even hesitated about helping Fontaine when he first arrive. I feel like the entire story of Fontaine could've happened even without the traveler being there, and the nation didn't even know what really happened in the end cause nothing is recorded or announced. But Natlan brought back this sense of teamwork for me, they even solidify the facts of the story with a monument and having world impacting changes based on traveler's actions. Like Jon didn't have Bona and the child from Xilonen's quest join the fight in the Night kingdom because he didn't do these quests yet and I got to see them in mine.
It is really rewarding seeing who shows up in this quest. People from past quests, from the tribal chronicles, even from the world quests. This climax didn’t feel like it was just the Traveler and Mavuika fighting, but all of Natlan was with them as well.
Interesting. There were more spirits of NPCs when I did the quest. Those were from world quests. So it just cuts them out if you didn't do the corresponding quest.
It looks like. Compared to mine, he was missing at least Nechca from the Xilonen quest, since she and the other NPCs had some lines saying that despite her being a kid she was really useful in the battle (or something like that).
Same! I got Nechca and the other girl with the green bird thing from the ochkanatlan quest.
@@PrimeCo129 Oh right! I forgot about Bona and Cocouik for some reason.
I literally cried when I saw Bona
Yeah i got Bona, Nechca as well. And the souls lost in the battle at the memorial was 2054 for me.
Once a hero said : now it falls to me to create new rules for Natlan. 😢❤ we don't forget You Man...
he really did keep his words
Honestly I knew that either capitono was gunna sacrifice himself or do something but I just can't wait for the Dane quest to see his reaction to capitano sacrifice
I Cried at Paimon hugging traveler, and ayo.
I cried at the scene with Ayo's grandparents strangely enough
@I.disagree animals always get me, especially dinos or dragons
Why people always pay attention to anyone else except MC???
I was screaming and giggling watching this cute scene but not because of Paimon but because my Aether is the cutest ❤❤❤
He deserves more attention, stop ignoring him 😭❤
Although maybe it's a good thing, this way I will be his only true wife who deeply cares about him unlike anyone else hehe
that scene with Ayo got me man, things were looking chill and happy and then... boom! trauma
True
I totally lost it then Ayo hugged his grandma, the way he curled up in her lap, the cute baby Saurian sound, the fact that the grandpas preferred to stay with him, this reminded me when Karkata didn’t understand about death and he tried to “repair” his human friend
Capitano pulled a Lich King at the end. Bro really is HIM
Ppl in chat actually angry about Capitano dying, while it is explained multiple times this is what he wanted and he's reached a happy ending...ppl are crazy
Or even cringing about Traveler dancing and celebrating A LEGENDARY VICTORY finishing an era of doom and pain
...what is this world anymore?! 😭😭
Yes except the celebrating took place for most of the quest and the legendary victory was…incredibly underwhelming. In story it makes sense but the pacing was wretched. The party felt unearned.
@@talisa222Power of friendship and the one character people wanted now maybe unplayable 😂
@@talisa222 You are woefully incorrect and an incredible fool. 🤡
@@nandog2597 It always shocks me how people count "power of friendship" as a bad thing. Like, no tropes are bad, it's all about execution. If power of friendship was bad always no one would play persona and the like.
@@talisa222 so sorry that a nation that went through a lot of turmoil partying and uplifting itself is such an offense to you. Of course it takes most of the quest cus Mavuika was using it as a distraction to stall the Traveler. What OP find insane is that people are hating on the fact that the people of Natlan are celebrating and holding feasts to uplift their morales along this strenuous war. Like are people not allowed to find some happiness in the face of tragedy? Even in WW2, both sides stopped fighting for a bit to celebrate Christmas, are you gonna tell these WW2 veterans that what they did was cringe and unearned? Also, what Jon didn't do was play the story and world quest, which contributed more characters to the fight in the night kingdom. And the fact that the Abyss mimic the voice of Xblanque to taunt and insult Mavuika by calling her a failure as an Archon amidst the fight. And mimicing a dragon that once almost destroyed Natlan as well. Again alot of these great details lore skippers would miss and complain about it being underwhelming is laughable.
everyone angry because capitano is "dead"
me happy because he's finally free
if you are a true capitano fan be happy for this man who achieve his vengeance his rebellion against the divine
Ikr like do they want him to suffer more? 😕
@@RENINE28.8 Nevermind the simps, we will always pay respects and tributes to the fallen just as how we do to the soldiers in our countries.
You have fought well, Sentinel Knight.
@@krungkronch1947 🫡
Daym,i didn't expect Capitano backstory was that deep,he deserve better,and hoyo just give the freedom,i'm cooked when i know Capitano never sleep because the sound of soul he hold in his body 🥲
this. if they really loved the character they would be happy for him
This might be the first archon weapon to play such significant importance in genshin story 😊😊😊
You right
Current story? Yes
Nahida, furina :👁👄👁
@@Zanttoreboth of their weapons appeared exactly 0 times in the quests. Unless you count the small gameplay segments
@@zelktheinvader7874 bro it was sarcasm.
Huh, I had Bona and Coco appear between Vichama and Guthred. So the completion of quests impacts who you meet in the final battle then. Since the Chronicle is incomplete yet, I wonder if Hoyo will retroactively add more people when the new quests come out
Missing out on potential NPCs from Collective and Plenty tribal quest, Little one's final world quest at that volcano, and probably the NPCs from upcoming Varesa and Ifa's quest (if they are five stars)
@@Raudent Dont think Ifa is a 5 star since he's from Chasca's tribe and Hoyo seems pretty set on 1 5 star for each tribe.
@Lolamy one can only hope
first quest i cried to, when paimon was chanting with tears for him to make it, their long hug broke me
bro speedran and I'm here for it
Natlan archon quest alone deserves its own anime especially Acts 4 and 5. Absolute peak cinema.
As usual Capitano carried us through the crunch and made it “peak”. Quite a recurring theme throughout Natlan I must say.
Xbalanque and capitano are truly the men of all time
So basically the heavenly principles aren’t these foreboding forces, they’re just chilling and then saw the sinners and were like, “guys.. we have ONE RULE.”
I don't feel like it's *ever* justified to genocide an entire civilization, most of whom are innocent, for the mistakes of a handful of people - and Teyvat's history implies that Celestia/The Heavenly Principles have done this *multiple* times, not just with Khaenri'ah.
They also colonized the planet by subjugating and systematically disempowering its original inhabitants, go to exorbitant and suspicious lengths to hide the fact that they're not from Teyvat, and set rules for humanity to follow that most of humanity doesn't even know are in place. Even in the few cases where people know that these rules exist, they're not given a reason for them - and any parent knows that setting a rule without explaining why it's necessary/should be followed is A) basically bait for the rule to be tested by the curious and B) begging for it to fail.
Even IF the Heavenly Principles do actually have the stated intent of protecting Teyvat from the Abyss, they're *still* tyrannical, arrogant colonizers prone to throwing tantrums over the slightest perceived threat to their rule, and I don't think any twist they can throw in at this point can make me respect them.
i'm really glad you enjoyed it! i honestly was a bit disappointed with it but whenever i feel disappointed by a quest, watching you or arnold play always makes me appreciate it much more because your enthusiasm is infectious
Capitano: "Death can have me when it earns me."
Fun fact: if you did the tribal quests, when you talk to the tribe leader right before fighting the abyss, the interaction will be slightly different because they bring in character from the tribal quest.
I did the first 3 so there was a small child, the dendro saurian boss and an uncle iykyk
Also if you did the ochkanatlan world quest then bona appears too
@@Autr1smBona and Och-Kan
I’m super sad about Capitano…I know he’s at peace now but I wish hoyo could make him playable…he’s a highly anticipated character
Theres another cryo male sword character thats from Khaenri'ah!!! U can play kaeya for copium 😭
I mean I would rather have his ending in the archon quest than him being playable because if you think about its either he rest in peace from the torture of his rotting body or keep on living and enduring more of his torture
GDR (God Damn Right)
Skirk will be the first Playable Character with Space/Void Element, Capitano might come later on version 6.X or 7.X but the chances low.
completely agree with u
The amount of EMOTIONAL DAMAGE during this quest is Overflowing bruh.
Bro rip to capitano and also to his wanters
I happy that I can see my username on twitch in the video. So happy to be apart of that long stream! c:
Farewell, our Captain 🫂
The only Archon quest that genuinely made me cry. Paimon giving me encouraging words and believing in me...
Paimon really is our travel companion and a great guide❤️😭
Gay plat, would you please give me a ride to the liquor store? I need to buy some smokes and beer for Nahida
It was rushed.
@@pondreezyI am busy with your mom
Am I the only one who’s excited we got some interactions with the Heavenly Principles, I hope we can see more of them
Me too. There will defnitely be more to come, there has to be. This whole story has been hype all the way and is going to be more hype in future. I'm intrigued about Nod Krai and the other shades of the heavenly principles too. Imagine if Dain were to meet one of them. :O He hates them the most, so that would be crazy!
It is since the last region snezhnaya will take literally 2 years. I can’t wait to see how the burning of the irmansul will happen with the doctor.
@@冰淇淋9824nod krai isn't confirmed
Renova isn't the Heavenly Principles though. She is the Shade of Death.
The Shining Shades are apart of the Heavenly Principles
I just finished this quest and absolutely love it. What I really like about natlan is about how involved the world/npc. We saved nations in the past and we are pretty famous but I never felt that way in the world and I love how natlan really put an effort and truly recognized the traveler. Definitely love the lil photo op and celeb moments 😂
I was a bit spoiled about the captain so I knew it was coming and I'm emotionally prepared this time, still devastated we might not get him playable but mavuika hinted another harbinger coming for the gnosis, hoping for columbina 🤞
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE QUEST. I just hated that Capitano had to go but I’m happy for him. Every scene was absolutely beautiful and I may have shed a tear. Thank you Hoyoverse for another amazing archon quest wrap up!!❤❤
Wow- what a way to start the year by Capitano sacrificing himself 😭
seeing someone say tht natlan whole arc is literally just my little pony equestria girl is sooo funny bcs in a sense they actually use “with the magic of friendship” type of writing lol
Capitano is similar to loki, in the end they both sit on the throne forever while holding roots of the world, loki holding yggdrasil and capitano holding ley lines so that their people get to live, and i also notice capitano before wearing the mask looks like blade from hsr, and they both cursed with immortality too😮
That's exactly what i thought when i first saw capitano on the throne lol
Or similar to Arthas from WoW with legendary frozen throne
And he is has a similarity to Furina- spending ages trying to prevent a tragedy
I needed to see your reaction to the battle....maaaan, this was so peak! Thos character sequences gave me shivers, dude!
For Natlan!
Captain your soul is gone but you let your body stay with us forever, thankyou and respect
I am playing with you as I watch the video. It feels like IO am playing with a friend! Thank you for this!
I accidentally swiped the notification out and had to find you by searching Chongyun 😭
Dammm
1:40:43 Don’t know did anyone mention alr. But u will see more people who appear in their tribe quest in the area where u say goodbye, and more people after ur journey in the night kingdom if u do the world quest
Spoiler alert:
U’ll meet dendro dragon in kinich’s quest, little girl in xilonen’s quest, mualani talk about her journey in her quest, chasca’s sister in the area. Meet another girl from xilonen’s quest, female adventurer and the old natlan’s king from world quest later in night kingdom
@@welsonchiang3320 no wonder i was shocked that some of characters missing like mountain king, and bona from ochkanatlan. maybe he still hasn´t done the world quest and tribe quest
@@janlyndongilhang9176I don't think he does any world quests
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO RELEASE AJAW??? I LEFT HIM IN THE BOX
Same
I tried to search for him but couldn’t find him 😭
@@saeranchoi3343 The box is not there but if you go to the door then you can hear his voice.
Lol same had no clue😂
And the fact you immediately get c6 pyro traveler is amazing
Unfortunately C6 Pyro Trav is a weekly boss killer.....
Edit: Nope nevermind, it gets buffed when you offer blazing flint ore
Only during the quest, you'll need to get blazing flint to C6 them
@@I.disagree You immediately get C6. The Blazing Flint Ore upgrades the constellations to make Pyro Trav cons usable outside of the Weekly boss. Though they still keep the Weekly boss cons
Just discovered that 5 minutes ago
@@miasimp9044 Oh so the constellations that work against gosoythoth are given by default and the ones that are not boss-restricted need the blazing flint?
Does that mean the shockwave attack of her normal/charge attack is usable outside of the boss when he/she is c6?
I've never cried like this before.... My eyes, I couldn't stop sobbing, The Captain made me me a mess
As a Honkai Impact 3rd player as well, in a way a "Captain" saved a "Himeko" variant in a different universe.
I just realised this is 3 hours long and I'm all for it
I really like the way you like and appreciate the Genshin Inpact storyline, you're so different from the others creator🥰
The Captain literally was like give me liberty or give me death.
This Archon quest was so amazingly bittersweet. Idgaf if anyone says it's bad; Natlan is home to the BEST ARCHON QUEST EVER.
i thought it was amazingly bittersweet too ❤️
Nope its not sumeru still peaks
jon's voice impression of iansan is like if boothill from hsr and batman had a child XD
It's nice that npc from various world quests of natlan join us only if we've done the quest
Compared to other nation, Natlan is more lighthearted in most of the time, except for Act 4 which was pure war depression. I'm still not sure how I'll rank Natlan arc compared to the other nations, though I think emotionally speaking, Sumeru & Fontaine still at the top, but for how they wrap the story, I think Natlan arc might be the 2nd best because of the sense of ancomplishment. And I'm also glad how Traveller's element is now a thing with a whole cutscene awakening. Also that freekin stare in 2:22:08 was EPIC AS AF.
As for the best moment so far in this quest, for me personally it's the moment when Ronova "shows" herself. Those eyes on the sky was straight up terrifying and change the whole quest mood instantly.
Edit: I don't realize this since I play JP dub, but dang EG dub for the enemy actually going really hard this time.
Yeah I'm conflicted because emotionally I wasn't attached to the Natlan AQ series, but it had some cool moments and all around mihoyo experimented with new ways of story execution which I appreciate, and we got new lore relevations too which is nice.
On the other hand I feel like they regressed in the dialogue department, even worse pacing than before and I felt the repetition was overboard, sometimes the same thing being talked about for long minutes, with different characters repeating the exact same thing right after each other. I know dialogue was never mihoyos strong suite but I felt like it was worse than ever before. Also I don't feel like Mauvika's character was properly fleshed out, his whole character is just being disciplined and committed to doing this one plan, but nothing else. I feel like all other archons had a deeper story and she's been done dirty, just make her hot and sell her with a leather bike suit (motorcycle included lol).
So all in all I feel like Natlan arc is below Fontaine and Sumeru, and I'm conflicted on giving it a better or worse rating than Inazuma. The new experimentations and lore are cool, but like, Natlan is supposed to be the nation of war and I felt the effects and presentation of war better in the Inazuma arc, and Raiden's story was also better written than Mauvika's IMO.
I'll sleep on it, do the story quests and finish the world quests and decide later, but this is how I feel right now.
@@jonnyjoker01 I think the core reason Act 5 of Natlan didn't go as hard was mainly because Act 4 is much well executed and is like epilogue of Natlan Aq. In a sense, Act 4 was the true climax of Natlan quest as that quest is where Mavuika's 500 years plan to use divine power happened, and it also happen in the middle of the greatest war of Natlan with much higher stakes compared to Act 5 which very well portrayed Natlan as the nation of war. Due to how crazy Act 4 was and mixed with Act 5 got stretch to 1 more version, we had MUCH higher expectation on act 5 in comparison to any Nation on the same act and thinking it'll have a very unexpected plot twist, which is not really happening except for Ronova's terrifying appearance. What make it worse is how 5.3 pv spoiled the climax moment of Mavuika and Traveller final blow.
Overall, I might still rank Natlan higher than Inazuma AQ, solely because of Natlan Act 4 alone which is easily 8.5/10, (and Inazuma so called "war" was underwhelming af). That said though, I do also admit that epilogue tend to be the most important act other than the opening act, and Inazuma have like one of the best if not the most hype epilogue climax of Archon quest even though they use the typical "power of friendship" power.
@@FireBlueZ I dunno I see it a bit differently.
While I agree that Inazuma's depiction of the actual war wasn't that great, overall you could feel the tension from the moment you set foot in Ritou, all throughout the end of the AQ. In the end it resulted in a climax that felt more impactful at least for me, because we finally resolved a conflict that went on through 5 acts.
I feel like the stakes weren't properly conveyed to us. We arrived in Natlan to be met with sunshine and rainbows, had 3 acts of 90% cheery atmosphere except for a few moments, and then had one act of actual war - which I agree was pretty well made, but to me it felt less emotionally impactful, because of the previous 3 acts, didn't feel properly set up. The "tension" was mostly only set up with dialogue, repeated multiple times throughout, which was kind of lame. And while the war itself was interestingly executed, it didn't make up for the weird pacing for me personally.
Then the last act tries to build upon the emotions we had previously by revisiting everything that happened in the previous 4 acts, as well as side stories, but since I already didn't feel emotionally attached to them, it didn't work on me.
I see what they were going for but plot wise very little actually happened during these acts, there was just too much filler due to them wanting to keep the atmosphere lighthearted for too long.
Natlan act 5 was a bit weaker compared to Fontaine Act 5 for me but then again, Natlan act 5 was like 4h and Fontaine Act 5 was 6h. But overall I like Natlan more. Sure the the quests might not have been character driven but I like it that way too. They are trying free their nation from a never ending war after all.
Citlali and Venti would get along very well. Bonding over alcohol
This was PEAK!!
Natlan's story was epic, Mavuika is the most Archon-like Archon (she is the best at this point), and the Captain is the Legend of Legends.
edit: The people that cry about Natlan for any reason, just can't comprehend the world and story of the game. This was pure perfection.
Imo mavuika is too perfect, there is no struggle for her in this quest, she doesn't even try to stop Capitano from sacrificing himself. If they gave an actual depth to Mavuika (that is there in lore but isn't shown at all) and showed more Capitano's suffering (which is, again, all lore no show) it would have been way better. Cool idea, questionable execution (especially a pool party in Act V, come on)
WAIT A GODDAMN SECODN GUYS if everyone remembers then columbina was also supposed to be in natlan now if i am correct i dont think capitano was able to give the gnosis of pyro to the tsaritsa (he was busy in this stuff) so after his death maybe columbina will come in place of him FOR THE GNOSIS...so this will be the bets way to make her entrance!
Just a theory guys
Oh and rip captain
I guess this means the captain likely ain’t gonna be playable…. There’s a certain group of people that will be veryyy annoyed at that 😂
its really cool that we got to meet npc from side quest, and theyre voiced special for this quest
(P.S. Remember to talk to the two Fatui by the waypoint in Mondstat after the quest guys)
I love the fact that when you do the world quests and the tribal Chronicles all the characters appear right as we enter the night kingdom. I was so hapoy to see Bona and Cocouik aka Och-Kan, Nepecha, the Mountian King, Chasca and her Saurian sister and all of them there. And Mallko and Vichama bro!!! Tears!!! It was so surreal and felt so emotional. I wonder if people who didn't do the quests see them too?
Any way it was such a nice detail.
Ronova in the sky bro. Scary AF and Capitano...Captain my Captain such a beautiful character. Salute to the Captain, the Sentinel Knight of Khaenriah. 😢😢
Edit:
1:35:00 - that answers my question. So only if you did the world quests and chronicles will certain characters appear. I like that detail a lot. Look at Genshin finally having consequences for choices lol
1:50:04 Wish Nechca was in the scene.
1:53:23 Ugh I was expecting Bona and Cocouik noooooooo haha
3:25:30 My funeral site said 2106 people died...Good job Jon. You had a lower deathtoll haha
I know people are gonna be mad he's not playable, but I actually love this ending for Capitano. The end of this quest was the first time since the release of Natlan where I felt like a Big Moment in a character's story was determined 100% by the actual character, based on what they would actually do based on their established ideals and motivations. Mavuika by contrast has always felt more like a plot device to me than a well realized character, so I REALLY enjoyed Capitano's reasoning, his strategy and his clear emotional fulfillment. He (and Pierro) are playing 4D chess
❤️👍
In fact he Still have many chances to be playable
@@arielalmada1606 I get your disappointment, really, but you redeem blazing flint ore at his throne for pyro Traveler cons so he is part of a permanent mechanic now.
@@kiaradoesart9682 Yeah that doesnt mean nothing,he Still have the sticker,the profile image,his model labeled as a character unlike Signoras one that was labeled like a Monster,his sword that have a Lore ralated name and was leaked that have a code in the files that is unique for characters or some bosses,the thing is, that they dont need to make him left the Throne to make him playable,like honkai a lot of bosses are characters
i KNEW capitano was dying BUT I WAS NOTTT READY FOR THAT SCENE
Bro could possibly be pulling a tingyun
If you check his body, he's still breathing, so he's just chilling there after 500 years of torture.
I want Capitano to be playable but he badly needs rest. My full respect to the man. May you rest….. really good rest after 500 years. 😢😢
Captain is forced to forever stay with the ruler of death, just waiting, forever, nothing will come for him. He is basically a prisoner without a prison
Bars. Everybody saying he's resting now, but you nailed it on the head. He achieved his goal and saved his people and Natlan's laylines, but it will still be a lonely, never ending existence. I feel like his true 'happy ending' would be saving the souls, and actually dying or at least BEING ABLE to die.
@@opalakv4ob i bet he wants a rest at minimum...die is bonus. remember that he is constantly hearing souls inside of him and with how he got a chance to "rest" or "nap" forever, is still a better option than living in agonizing hearing screeching voices 24/7.
You should have spoken to the female NPC at the memorial. She mentioned Capitano's real name - Thrain.
Mavuika mentioned it before
0:17 “OUR QUEEN” SLAYYYYY 😂☀️💥🔥
MY FAVORITE CUTSCENES WAS PAIMONS AND TRAVELLLER SCENE ITS EVERYTHING 😭💖
Never ask a genshin person " what happened on 1/1/2025 "
o7 - For you “The Captain” your sacrifice would be remembered. o7
Watching it now after i finish the archon quest myself-that's the reason why Capitano's left chest is oozing of aura or something in the beginning cause he's carrying it all along for 500 years 🥲 Mad RESPECT for my man!
this was cinema,we finally got a completely plot driven arc rather than character driven and it was SOOO GOOD.No shade against Fontaine and Sumeru,they are absolutely peak as well except some filler plot like Meropide and Desert hospital etc,but Natlan really felt so much more refreshing.So much more worldbuilding instead of just focusing on character stories,actual plot progress abotu Celestia involvement,and finally some time for our MC to shine.It was peak.
Rest in peace, Il Capitano.
May we meet again someday.
I don't care what anyone says. This was a beautifully done quest. Absolutely heartbreaking with a bitter sweet ending. It was a little winded in a couple parts but at this point it's expected from genshin. Tons of hints in Mavuikas questions at the end too. Can't wait for whats to come in Nod Krai and the rest of Genshin.
If only we got some more depth to capitano instead of a pool party this would have so much better already.
@voidb0rn211 pool party lol. It was definitely supposed to be a distraction so Mavuika could get ahead, but I agree. A little more Capitano lore would have been amazing. I know I'm coping super hard but I dont believe genshin is done with him.
@@Enlotherover it's a bit cope yeah, but I agree, I think it's an excuse to introduce another harbinger while cooking the new khaenri'ahn element
Loved this quests so much. I cried when Paimin and the Traveler reunited and when they were all singing for us. I love this region so much and I can't wait to visit the Collective of Plenty.
Nah you missed a lot like if complete whole ockanatlan and tribals chronicles then you will get special interaction during that time when we said goodbye and those npc will even be in the quest if you completed it and not only that all of them will be in pilgrim chronicles
I also missed all, I might watch a video of missed interactions if someone makes them.
@ichigoichie369 there will be many people making videos abt it soon don't worry
@@ichigoichie369 Rubhen925 has the full archon quest on his channel and the NPCs from the tribes and story quests are there.
I love how you can tell which streamers skipped their world quests just from this quest alone
In 1:49:42, if you clear Xilonen story, there will be one other character standing next to her
I love how Mavuika's weapon is literally a torch; We're carrying the torch for Natlan's people and history, ensuring that it's not forgotten and continues to grow in the future.
This archon quest is an all-star cast. The six heroes, the six chiefs of the tribes, some side characters of each tribal reputation quests, even Bona and Cocouik (Och-Kan vessel) at the Ochkanatlan world quest is present (and surprisingly, voiced). And this archon quest is the only quest where a literal crowd of people is present. 😅
Note: For those who haven't finished the Tribal Reputation quests and the Ochkanatlan world quest, you will not see Nechca and Bona with Cocouik (Och-Kan vessel) at the quest, and they are voiced. 🙃
Captain at the end - Doramu I've come to bargain. 😂
I cried when capitano died (best deth ever) rip the best thing happened in genshin history 🖤🩶
The havenly principle have the budget, but she wasn't decided to give that budget to Xbalanque, probably because, she know the dragons would come back in future, if she hold the budget and leave Natlan on its own, then when the dragons comes back, she can use that budget to defeat the abyss and the dragons in one strike, when they fight each others. A good plan for the entire Teyvat, but Natlan would take all the damage alone, most likely would completely lost
The death archon gave budget to Xbalanque way ahead of the plan, that is great risks she took, if Natlan failled on defeat the abyss, or failled on solve the dragon problem, that would creat a even bigger hole, and I doubt the death archon had anything else to fill it
But so far so good, at least in Natlanee's hands, the original budget has not only secured, but even made great profits, they have enough strengh to deal with the incomming dragon problem in both peaceful or non peaceful ways
The death achon even managed saved Mavuika, by allow the captain to replace her, that gave Natlan even better cards to solve the next problem
The death archon is such a good boss…
OMG the night kingdom interaction is differ with your progress
For example i have finish ochkanatlan quest, and in the night kingdon ochkan the Phyton king soul give some word of encouragement
This quest is goated, certainly brought me "tu-mai-knees" 🤣
MAY WE SEE YOU AGAIN CAPTAIN🫡
51:55 until now I just notice that we can talk to Ajaw in the house (kitchen) 😢
I was escaped and planning the revenge on Kinich
petition to make Jon the alternative VA for Kinich
Paimon giving traveller a hug made my day
I knew it was going to happen. I was expecting some twist. But ah nothing unexpected happened. I love the look of ruler of death. Who will come to take Pyro genosis. Also cryo arcon is so chill. Caption said i wanna leave. She be like "okay" 😂. From what mavuvika said. Dattore is cooking something like in Nord kai. Just like he did sumeru. I'm expecting something BIG. he won't disappoint i guess.
This was so epic! One of my fav quests of all time
AHH I’ve just noticed that hutao was able to buy a new outfit after all that happened in natlan help 😭 (since she works in a mortuary she made stonks with all of the war thing 😭)
2:34:45 YOOO I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THESE???
and did I see someone in chat call Capitano as "corpse husband" 💀💀
Is it just me or is there a lot of hate surrounding Natlan while some have valid criticism...most are just hating for the sake of it, for example, they hate the Traveler for recognition...yet these are the same people who whine about the traveller taking a backseat in previous archon quests, and just in general misinformation all over the place from Mavuika being a mary sue...despite the amount of sacrifice, she had to make as a human and an archon, not enough war despite Act 4 and many stories revolving around war, etc...and this is just the tip of the mountain. In fact, they had to resort to pointing at Fontaine and Sumeru which while Sumeru is better... let's not act like Fontaine had all bangers, Act 3-4, anyone...yea the Fortress Arc isn't good while the Natlan archon quest was all solid...none of them were bad like I think Fontaine got heavily carried by Act 1-2 and 5 which don't get me wrong, Fontaine is still an amazing archon quest at the end of the day but, I think it is time to take off the glasses and take a good look at Natlan overall archon quest in a vacuum. It isn't perfect but I still enjoyed Natlan Archon's quest from beginning to end. Oh also to try and paint Natlan as even worse then Inzamua is just objectively wrong...like no despite Natlan faults, it is 100% times better then that failure of Inazuma.
The thing about Genshin fans on the internet is that I think they just want to be angry. They want to hate the game, and they want to see the bad in everything because that’s what gets them the clicks.
Especially on places like Twitter, Hoyo could do something crazy like give out every archon for free, and people on there would still find a reason to call the Genshin team greedy or stingy.
The best way to handle those kinds of people is to just ignore them man, and don’t take what they say seriously if it’s not a genuine valid criticism.
I guarantee you that by the end of 5.8, those same people will be saying Natlan was peak.
Look I love Natlan and I don't like hating, but Act 5 Natlan barely had an emotional hook. I would have loved to see the spirits of all her family members helping her in the final battle or even a sequence showing her personal struggles like Furina. This was done very well in the previous acts but I thought they'd take it a step further and make the tears run in Act 5.
Plus the quest was very straightforward, everything happened according to plan and even if it didn't it barely took any time to resolve itself, it had no impact.
Imo too much time was spent on fillers like the People of the Springs celebration. The important cutscenes like the boss fight and Gosoythoth were all smashed together and had no separation. Everything happened so quickly and yet so slowly at the same time.
And the traveler parade should have taken place after Capitano's death. It didn't fit right in the middle of two heavy topics.
Tldr: The pacing was bad, it was shorter than I and it wasn't as emotional as the previous AQ climaxes.
@@idkatthispoint-s9s Umm...to be honest, I am fine with a more straightforward story as we had two complex plots in the previous two archon quests so a simple plot is kind of refreshing, don't get me wrong it is not as good as the two previous archon quest but I still enjoyed it.
"And the traveler parade should have taken place after Capitano's death. It didn't fit right in the middle of two heavy topics." ehh...no, I honestly, don't think it would have fit and instead would have just made it worse. Like, imagine this...we complete an epic battle, then are dragged onto a sad death scene of a chad warrior then we celebrate as if it was nothing, doesn't that sound a bit wrong? So yea, I think the way they set it up is fine because celebrating after the Captain gives a big chad energy against the gods and showing us his past then we just dance on top of his grave sounds horrible and would made it worse.
Imagine this in Fontaine, we defeat the whale then we learn of Focolar's plan and then she sacrifices herself...afterwards we celebrate, sounds a bit grading doesn't it?
i remember people were trashing inazuma archon quest and now they say it’s one of the best ones. same will happen with natlan but god. 😭
@@ymupaem Eh... yeah I don't think anyone actually calls Inazuma one of the best even to this day, it is still rightfully called one of the worst and to be honest...Yeah I can agree, even looking back on it. It was just a complete dumpster fire from beginning to end, it had a couple of cool scenes from Raiden's introduction and Raiden's blade getting parried by Kazuka but everything else was just horrific rushed, and messy in terms of plot points like the civil war story got dropped as quickly as brought up...also Teppi, man you deserve better, interesting idea but the execution was just poor.
Natlan is the best region and no one can tell me otherwise, even if people talk crap about it
SO PAIMON ILY NO ONE CAN MAKEME HATE YOU
I cried when he begun walking up stairs to the throne 😭😭. He deserves to live a peaceful life not be friends to eternity 😢.I want to see childe reaction . His idol is gone
I'm so sad that Capitano is not with us anymore.. but he is finally at peace! I love this man with my heart😭😭❤