If underground exploration is a thing I can see Zelda serving that part of the game with the option to switch to link on the overworld. Loved the video as always!!
In the original BotW, Zelda was trapped in Hyrule Castle, talked to Link a few times, and helped with the final battle. I don't want that to happen again in the Sequel. Even if we don't play as her, I would like to see her doing something. Maybe after she falls down the hole, Zelda will explore the caves and learn the history of Ganon while trying to find a way out. It could shown as cutscenes that we get after Link completes a dungeon or something.
And maybe other games could be from mentioned to straight-up used as in Zelda could find other old links items and use them, etc etc- who knows! The ruins are pretty old so...
In regards to Nintendo's willingness or unwillingness to make a Playable Zelda, that really depends on fan pressure. Through the years, I have notice that Nintendo would listen to the fanbase for feedback and their games reflect that feedback. Remember how fans complained about the first GameCube Zelda being a cel-shaded Toon world instead of a gritter Ocarina of Time world? Next console game turns out to be Twilight Princess. Remember all the complaints of Zelda becoming too linear? First came A Link Between Worlds and later Breath of the Wild, which redefined everything we thought about Zelda. And the complaints of motion controls for Skyward Sword? Now, 10 years later, there's an option to play with no motion controls. Saying that it is unlikely gives cover for Nintendo to not do anything. If you don't make the demands known (and playable Zelda demands have been known since 2016, even before the reveal of BOTW Zelda's design), it would not register in their minds and they'll keep doing the same thing over and over. This is why many have chosen the theory of playable Zelda in BOTW2 rather than "more likely" option because it keeps the imagination of how it could work alive, and puts pressure on the Zelda team to rethink the classic conventions of a Zelda story.
I like the idea of Zelda being playable and learning to defend herself, but maybe with her own powers, brain and/or bows. But I hate the idea of her wielding the Master Sword, as for me it's Link's weapon, not hers. And because if she is carrying the Master Sword, what would Link be there for ?
Well Link goes entire games without using the Master Sword sometimes so I don't think it is necessarily essential to his character! And we know Zelda can hear Fi's voice from the sword so she does have her own connection to it
Zelda has a connection to the Master Sword because she is a direct descendant of Hylia, the goddess that created Fi. Skyward Sword Zelda even goes on to say that Link is the only one who can wield the Master Sword after she awakens its true potential. though, I will admit, Zelda having the Master Sword when the two split in Botw2 would be great for balancing the game so that Link doesn't start off with it, though for continuity sake She should not be able to *use* the Master Sword in the same way link can, supplementing it with her own magic.
Zelda using the Master Sword would be cool a step a one-off fight where she and Link fight some boss together and throw the sword back and forth as they attack the enemy from both sides. But she should get her own signature weapon.
An idea that is sort of a mix between two of the proposed ones in this video: A major subplot of the game is actually finding where Zelda could be. It could be like a bit of a detective narrative, tracking down people that resemble Zelda, unable to find her. Eventually, you find a false lead, placed by either Ganon or one of his followers. A trap, basically. Link is surrounded, with loads of dudes on every side. Then, out of nowhere, a masked someone appears, and proceeds to decimate every one of them. And this masked someone is Zelda, of course, who has grown infinitely more badass in the time where she was presumed missing. Just an idea.
Just saying, but didn't the zelda directors say that "botw2 will be the darkest zelda yet, even darker than Majora's mask". If Link is spending his time in the gorgeous overworld and luscious skies, I don't think that will be very dark and horrifying (conventionally, at least. I wouldn't be surprised though if there could be some horrors or sad things lurking up there, especially to do with the towns and villages we've already visited in botw). The only explanation I can reasonably think of is that Link has to go to the undergrounds, or Zelda has to go to the undergrounds. And if Zelda is an optional character if playable, it means that the player can go through the entire game with nothing dark or spooky going for them. There has to be something more to Zelda or Link as a result, so I think it's a safe bet that one of these theories could be accurate. They also said they were inspired by 2 games for botw2, but have only said that one of them is Red Dead Redemption 2. I wonder what the other one could be.
12:18 "...this is the same series where literal children are able to pick up swords and shields for the first time ever and with only a single training lesson or reading of a sign post are able to wield them with enough efficiency to slay giant monsters." So just Link?
@@NayruYT If Zelda can fight as well as Link AND seal Ganon (something that only she can do), what would be the point of having Link? If Link already has combat experience from the beginning of the game, and Zelda eventually learns and become as good as Link in combat and have her sealing powers, wouldn't that make him obsolete in the end? If you have 2 main characters, it's not a good idea to make 1 of them obsolete. I don't know how, but they should somehow compliment each other in some way. Link has a set of skills that Zelda can never have and Zelda should have another set of skills that Link can never have and together, they end up saving the world from the bad guy that trumps both of them individually. When you get to the Ganon/Ganondorf/whoever fight at the end of the game, I think it would be cool if you can switch between characters and you must use both characters. That way, Zelda can be involved in the battle and it accentuates that they both need each other to defeat Mr. Bad Guy. I still think that the Link should trump Zelda in combat because he IS suppose to be the (metaphorical) sword arm of the goddess. Being Hylia's chosen knight would imply that he does most of the dirty work and fighting. If Zelda is playable, she shouldn't be nearly as efficient as Link in combat (again, so that Link does not become obsolete) but have an exclusive set of skills that make her just as invaluable. As for Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, I have own my head canon. I always bring Link, Zelda, and the King to the final battle. I bring Link and Zelda for obvious reasons and I bring the King because it IS his castle we're storming. In my head canon, Link is the one who does most of the damage to Calamity Ganon. That doesn't mean that Zelda isn't doing anything or that she's just support. She's just as involved in fighting off Calamity Ganon as Link is. However, I imagine that Link's overall combat skills are unsurpassed which makes him the main damage dealer. In my head canon, without Link, Zelda would've died because she doesn't have Link's combat skills. Without Zelda, Link would've barely "won" the fight against Calamity Ganon, but without a way to seal Calamity Ganon, Ganon would just regenerate and Link would've died shortly afterwards.
@@JCW5713 What the BOTW2 trailer shows is that Link could easily be assigned to another kind of fighting skills that Zelda doesn't have. The glowing hand seems to be a replacement for Link to use a sword. If Link cannot use the Master Sword but can use the magical hand as his new weapon, he would effectively be a new Zelda, especially if Zelda's sacred power has completely dwindled. A role reversal for the two characters. It would also show that Link can be more than just a knight with a sword. He can be anything Nintendo wants him to be, like a wizard.
@@evanbao93 A wizard Link does sound pretty cool. It makes me think of other possible iterations of Link. Ninja Link, inventor Link, etc. I'm still a bit hung up on Zelda having Link's level of combat skills. It's mostly the lore that's getting me hung up. BotW makes it clear that Link's skills are not normal (the guy's so tough he eats rocks). Isn't it Link's lineage as Hylia's chosen knight what gives him his extraordinary combat skills? Zelda's lineage as Hylia is what gives Zelda her sealing powers and affinity for light magic. If Zelda learns how to fight, I don't think she'll ever reach Link's level because of Link's lineage. If Link somehow learns how to use Zelda's sealing powers, I don't think any amount of training will make his seal last nearly as long as Zelda's due to her lineage. I'd give Link's seal about a week before Ganon breaks free. You suggestion for role reversal is interesting though. I'm up for it if Nintendo can pull it off in a way that doesn't mess with the lore too much. Either way, as long as both Link and Zelda have skills that don't make the other character obsolete, and the game is designed so that both characters have equal importance (don't just give us hour's worth of Zelda for the entire game), the game should turn out great.
I think people are forgetting that in the ending with all memories and Devine beasts Zelda looks at the shieka slate and says that Mipha’s Divine beast [ I can’t remember the name ] is having some problems and they should check it out
Maybe, hear me out, we have a situation like in Windwaker where she does get captured but basically finds herself a way out. Giving a reason even to her haircut, like we play it in parts with Zelda studying stuff, then as she is about to get captured or is captured she cuts her hair freeing her setting up a tutorial on how she fights back on enemies. Actually It would be cool if in the first half you can basically swap between them each being support for each other in combat. I mean we see what the divine beast's champions do for Link but not much for Zelda if those are in this game. Like Zelda using Daruk's power less like a bubble shield and an extra heart but more offensive like a pushing wall or moving force. Or Urbosa's lightning move can stun enemies while link strikes them down she uses a bow. I even like the personality of this Zelda more being comfortable with technology and finding things to work on between the Hyrule races, like imagine her being able to repair Link's damaged weapons or even tempering them with magic. Sure it's not playable in that case but she would be more supporting than ever, even if that would just make her essentially a great fairy....
I would like her to fight alongside you similarly to Atreus in God of War. But also interested her to play as her and her being more sneaky and stealthy as her offence and have her solve puzzles and solve different ways that would be pretty cool. I would also be intrigued to see Ganondorf’s side of the story as the game plays along, kinda how he sees the stories in his eyes as the story progresses. And having Ganondorf memories of the past, similar to Zelda’s memories in the first breath of the wild
I have another theory, what if Zelda does fall and Link fails to catch her, and as the game goes his guilt and anger grows, like we get to see some cutscenes and see Link and Zelda's relationship has gotten closer and stronger. But now that shes presumably thought to be dead Link's inner anger and sorrow of losing her is slowly changing him. He also lost the master sword so their is no gauging himself on his emotions. But then Zelda comes back to him and when he sees her he is instantly relieved of all those negative emotions. But since Link is the hero and has the heroes spirit all that negative emotion has to go somewhere and just like when orochimaru released from Sasuke when he ran out of chakra in his fight with Itachi in the anime naruto, those dark emotions split from links body and manifest into Dark Link. Then link and zelda fight dark link but he gets away and he becomes a recurring enemy miniboss throughout the game like king bulblin in twilight princess and Link finally kills dark link near the end of game with the master sword once he gets it back.
It's very easy to overthink this concept, and for very good reason. It's no wonder I've doubled back and forth on it across several videos. The possibilities are sky-high and there are so many different viewpoints on what would and wouldn't work. Personally I think it would be a brilliant middle ground to have her hang out with the scientists and upgrade stuff for you as well as giving her little MGS codec convos. She's not playable, but at least she plays a bigger role. Honestly though, I would be completely fine if she's just not present until the very end. I'd rather they focus on making this game a great experience either way; building upon everything good about BOTW while restoring and merging in the "Zelda" that it was missing. And if you ask me, it already looks like the game I wanted. Super stoked to find out more.
I would love to see her fulfill a scholarly role, I think it'd be the perfect arc for her character, getting to move on and be what she always wanted to be
11:49 Warrior Queen, after all her father has already passed on. I'm also hoping to switch back and forth, also hoping that the Sheika Slate is with her somehow since Link has the magic arm for now :)
While playable Zelda is my ideal, I mostly just don’t want her shoved in a box for the majority of the game. I’d be happy if she served a support or narrative role from the sidelines, perhaps even showing up to help with some dungeons that require two people to solve. In regards to the Underground Zelda theory, I think it likely she would have the Shiekah Slate with her. With that, and some of her magical power, she could defend herself without being a full warrior. I imagine her unable to do backflips and flurry rushes, but able to block and parry with a timed sealing barriers. Her method of attack being a bow with rechargeable light arrows. Her role in the underground? My idea is she needs to find nexus points of Malice, and purity it, clearing it from the overworld for Link.
I don't have a problem with Zelda wielding the Master Sword, but i don't like her just becoming a second Link. I'd rather have her use a mix of Technology and magic to defend herself, but i don't want her to just be the same as Link only female. In a new game that would be cool too though, just not in this scenario.
Also, it's interesting how you didn't bring up the minish cap (unless you mention it late in the video I'm still watching), as it is an interesting example of zelda being captive the majority of the game. The game shows that link is clearly close to zelda, then has her turn to stone protecting you. And the game is mainly focused effectively on kind of racing vaati to rescue zelda before he gets the light force, and when you find out that zelda has the light force, it's a race to rescue zelda before vaati gets the light force. In fact, if you are too slow, you literally game over because of it. If you can't tell I love minish cap. I honestly think she is my favorite version of zelda personally, because she's basically just a kid who is link's friend, and yes you basically have to rescue her, but what I like is the actual legitimate urgency at the end. Rescuing zelda before its too late.
I doubt it would happen, but I have a dream idea where Zelda is Link's companion where she's complimentary to Link's moveset, so you pretty much play both at the same time. Imagine that she's in some sort of goddess mode where she isn't completely tangible and she floats around with Link and you can trigger her abilities as you play as Link. Furthermore, you could have asymmetrical couch co-op where the second player controls Zelda but they have no need to walk around since Zelda would still be tied to Link. They could have more freedom with when her abilities can be activated perhaps-maybe Zelda's abilities in single player only activated with successful combos and moves so she requires no extra buttons, but a co-op player can activate them on a cool down instead. And then even crazier: optional online multiplayer where Zelda becomes tangible and is played by someone else on anothwr screen. She doesn't even need to have the same abilities-it could still be asymmetrical where she has more goddess abilities to compensate. Maybe she doesn't even use weapons at all, so they would play very differently. It's never going to happen, but I love this idea of option co-op that doesn't detract from single player (I have a twin; we have played BotW with split joy-cons, but I'd love to play a proper Zelda co-op with her). And then the idea of having multiplayer with Link and Zelda instead of multiple Link's really is a pipe dream. It's never going to happen, but I can dream
I would like to see Zelda communicating with the champions' spirits or interacting with Impa and Pura who are kind of her best friends in Age of Calamity..
13:48 Actually, I’d say you’d inadvertently call the developers something along those lines (like others have) by claiming such a safe option is the most likely.
I think, narratively speaking, Zelda being captive at the beginning of BotW works because you hunt down Link's memories and you want to save Zelda, you want her to live her researcher life with no calamity. My girlfriend played the game recently and she was really looking forward to save Zelda just to see she and Link being together again. If they just make Zelda captive to be rescued again, it'll not have any impact and people who already saved her the last time will feel frustrated. It'll be from "daaawn Zelda don't cry, I'll save you, hang in there, woman!" to "I don't believe this, she's useless". So I really hope you're wrong about what you believe it's more likely to happen (and I bet you hope this too haha) And while I'd love to play as a badass Zelda warrior at the end, it makes me think about the whole triforce and destiny thing. Power destroys everything, kidnaps Wisdom from the people and only the boy with Courage can make it right. But if Wisdom inherits Courage too, what happens to Link's role? I think about it not in a "go back to library, girl", but in a "I'm curious about what twist this predicament creates for Link" way.
I like the thought! And I think that a Link and Zelda working together can work in tandem as Spirit Tracks showed, even if it isn't specifically a Zelda killing dudes with a sword.
@@NayruYT Yes I would love that. A Spirit Tracks way to do this would be making Zelda control Guardians like she controlled Phantoms in ST, but with technology instead of... spirited away. But I'd also love to play as her as a warrior, even throwing ninjutsus and shurikens like Impa in AoC isn't off the table since Sheik exists. And I prefer to control girls in games, I'm looking forward to that and I look forward for your next videos about it. It always inspires me.
If Wisdom inherits Courage, then Courage can inherit Wisdom. And you get a role reversal where the two heroes are thrown into a new scenario where they're not so familiar with. A Zelda with no sacred powers and has to use weapons that Link would use to defend herself and a Link who is given sacred powers but at the cost of being unable to wield the weapons he would otherwise enjoy.
Honestly I’d be kinda surprised if we get a playable Zelda. Not because it’s unconventional but because it just wouldn’t this incarnation of Zelda. This one is meant to be more of a scholar and has had more of a backseat presence for quiet some time. I would be very pleased though to see a more active role for her.
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Maybe this could be an attempt to show good contrast between linear an open world gameplay, where similar to another comment, after Link completes a dungeon, instead of being a cutscene, it could be a possibly 10 minute playable section that's Zelda exploring the caves and having to do something. I don't know if it'd be ideal since it might feel disjointed from Link gameplay, but it's an idea. Good video
I'm not predicting she'll be playable in BotW 2. Honestly if anything I'd be surprised if she's playable. There's a lot of, of not always a new and creative way to play a new Zelda game. From Wolf Link in Twilight to the stylus touch screen way to play in the DS games. So if they include that gauntlet whatever it is on Link's arm and then also add a playable Zelda on top of that, that'd be surprising and fantastic. I'm just not predicting it tho bc as far as my knowledge, she's never been playable in any main line Zelda game.
@@NayruYT very true, it would just be unexpected to have people theorize and expect it then Nintendo actually give us what we expected. That would truly be unexpected.
I don't think I want her to be playable the way BOTW2's last trailer seems to show. I think it would simply destroy the role play of the game switching between Link high up in the sky or surface and Zelda being underground. Since they're separated at what seems to be the very beginning, I think it will look like Skyward Sword where she's on her own quest, searching or discovering things under the surface of Hyrule and at some point in the story, where we meet again she's going to join us and gain some partner abilities. Also technically in BOTW (even if she "lost" her powers), she could just telepathically speak to Link, it wasn't very used but we could get something like WW to be able to speak with her during the phase of the game where she's underground.
what if Zelda has a sister that was evil and has falls in love with Ganon ( like she has the same powers as Zelda exepet dark and Malice like and look like Lusamine from pokemon ) ( if this was a new Ganon fight, Link and Zelda will try to Seal Ganon with "Zeldas Dark Sister" fight with Malice ( think AOC Zelda's Bow of light atacks but Malice like ) ( So... this idea is like Zelda having dark sister.... and a incarnation of Hylia, but Demise like. ) ( Simmler to Vatti, Zeldas sister can shape shift to other charaters ( Think the Yiga clan ) to trick LInk and Zelda
Most likely Zelda will be out of play for the rest of BOTW 2 and won't appear again to help Link until the inevitable Final Battle against Ganondorf, and unlike TP and OOT Zelda, I doubt this one will just stand there and watch Link battle Ganondorf on his own unlike previous incarnations, but to be fair those incarnations were blocked off from assisting Link due to the circumstances, unlike WW Zelda.
I looking forward to playing the new games. But at the ending breath of the wild weave me thinking a thousand questions. Like is Zelda going to be Queen,? why didn't she age,? how come in the link memories everyone sings to know the world's going to end,? Where did all the extinct race come from? Is link some kind of a clone? Starting to think that impa is a time traveler or one of the goddess or the true wielder of the triforce of knowledge?
1. Zelda falls, explores underground with the slate 2. Link ends up in the past to prevent the calamity and save zelda, and has the arm. 3. Past link is now tapestry Link. 4. Link has something to do with the arm holding ganondorf under the castle. 5. Thus, playable Zelda in the present, playable link in the past as the hero from the tapestry who answers all our questions. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
They say that if your speculation can't be easily explained/summarised in a single sentence, then it's most likely not accurate... Ｗｅｌｌ； Ever heard of Halo 2?
Look at the hand of Link when he use his rewind power, its the same light as the Triforce ! When i think about it maybe Zelda give a little bit of her massive magic power of the Triforce to link because its the EXACT same light as when you hold ZR with the bow of light in botw 1 Would make sens that if Zelda give a fraction of her power to link this power glow with the same light as another thing that have a fraction of her power in it
I get why they're so set on their whole Link/Zelda/Ganon dynamic but let me tell you, as someone who grew up a girl and still adore this series to pieces as a queer adult, if I could play as Zelda I am 99% certain that I would literally cry with joy. Like seriously Nintendo, girls and women (and all manner of people who identify in different ways) love your games too, not just boys and men. I don't understand why they didn't go the "choose Link's gender" route with Breath of the Wild. It would impact very little overall, but it would be more inclusive! You could still have the romantic storylines, (queer women exist!!!) you'd just have to change a few pronouns here and there. ...And I suppose it would affect Gerudo Town's whole thing actually, but I don't think that's really a big loss... If they still wanted you to get the Gerudo outfit you could just have them confuse Link for a guy? Although in that case, having a game misgender your character like that might be a little upsetting. I don't know, and we never will know because Nintendo just didn't even try lol
I agree! I love the Zelda's Ballad mod for BotW, and Zelda as the protagonist still feels very "in place," so it even would have been cool to give you the option of whether you wanted Zelda or Link to be trapped with Ganon and the other playable
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If underground exploration is a thing I can see Zelda serving that part of the game with the option to switch to link on the overworld. Loved the video as always!!
That would be awesome, and thank you!
I can't even begin to guess what will happen, but I would love for a warrior princess!
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In the original BotW, Zelda was trapped in Hyrule Castle, talked to Link a few times, and helped with the final battle. I don't want that to happen again in the Sequel. Even if we don't play as her, I would like to see her doing something. Maybe after she falls down the hole, Zelda will explore the caves and learn the history of Ganon while trying to find a way out. It could shown as cutscenes that we get after Link completes a dungeon or something.
Totally agree!
And maybe other games could be from mentioned to straight-up used as in Zelda could find other old links items and use them, etc etc- who knows! The ruins are pretty old so...
I won’t be mad if it doesn’t happen but massively disappointed.
Kinda the same
Seeing all those Zelda mods made me think "wow this community reaaaally wants to play as Zelda, huh?"
How else will you sell the concept of a playable Zelda?
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In regards to Nintendo's willingness or unwillingness to make a Playable Zelda, that really depends on fan pressure. Through the years, I have notice that Nintendo would listen to the fanbase for feedback and their games reflect that feedback. Remember how fans complained about the first GameCube Zelda being a cel-shaded Toon world instead of a gritter Ocarina of Time world? Next console game turns out to be Twilight Princess. Remember all the complaints of Zelda becoming too linear? First came A Link Between Worlds and later Breath of the Wild, which redefined everything we thought about Zelda. And the complaints of motion controls for Skyward Sword? Now, 10 years later, there's an option to play with no motion controls.
Saying that it is unlikely gives cover for Nintendo to not do anything. If you don't make the demands known (and playable Zelda demands have been known since 2016, even before the reveal of BOTW Zelda's design), it would not register in their minds and they'll keep doing the same thing over and over. This is why many have chosen the theory of playable Zelda in BOTW2 rather than "more likely" option because it keeps the imagination of how it could work alive, and puts pressure on the Zelda team to rethink the classic conventions of a Zelda story.
This is absolutely a great point, and I agree with you!
@@NayruYT And besides, this game was born out of an overflow of ideas, maybe playable Zelda is one of them.
@@NayruYT Botw’s very existence goes against the “most likely” scenario.
I like the idea of Zelda being playable and learning to defend herself, but maybe with her own powers, brain and/or bows. But I hate the idea of her wielding the Master Sword, as for me it's Link's weapon, not hers. And because if she is carrying the Master Sword, what would Link be there for ?
Well Link goes entire games without using the Master Sword sometimes so I don't think it is necessarily essential to his character! And we know Zelda can hear Fi's voice from the sword so she does have her own connection to it
@@NayruYT Of course, and I'm aware of all this. It's only my opinion. ;D
Zelda has a connection to the Master Sword because she is a direct descendant of Hylia, the goddess that created Fi. Skyward Sword Zelda even goes on to say that Link is the only one who can wield the Master Sword after she awakens its true potential. though, I will admit, Zelda having the Master Sword when the two split in Botw2 would be great for balancing the game so that Link doesn't start off with it, though for continuity sake She should not be able to *use* the Master Sword in the same way link can, supplementing it with her own magic.
Zelda using the Master Sword would be cool a step a one-off fight where she and Link fight some boss together and throw the sword back and forth as they attack the enemy from both sides. But she should get her own signature weapon.
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An idea that is sort of a mix between two of the proposed ones in this video:
A major subplot of the game is actually finding where Zelda could be. It could be like a bit of a detective narrative, tracking down people that resemble Zelda, unable to find her. Eventually, you find a false lead, placed by either Ganon or one of his followers. A trap, basically. Link is surrounded, with loads of dudes on every side. Then, out of nowhere, a masked someone appears, and proceeds to decimate every one of them. And this masked someone is Zelda, of course, who has grown infinitely more badass in the time where she was presumed missing.
Just an idea.
That would be insanely cool
@@NayruYT Thank you!
Just saying, but didn't the zelda directors say that "botw2 will be the darkest zelda yet, even darker than Majora's mask". If Link is spending his time in the gorgeous overworld and luscious skies, I don't think that will be very dark and horrifying (conventionally, at least. I wouldn't be surprised though if there could be some horrors or sad things lurking up there, especially to do with the towns and villages we've already visited in botw). The only explanation I can reasonably think of is that Link has to go to the undergrounds, or Zelda has to go to the undergrounds. And if Zelda is an optional character if playable, it means that the player can go through the entire game with nothing dark or spooky going for them. There has to be something more to Zelda or Link as a result, so I think it's a safe bet that one of these theories could be accurate. They also said they were inspired by 2 games for botw2, but have only said that one of them is Red Dead Redemption 2. I wonder what the other one could be.
That makes sense to me!
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That is very kind of you, thank you! Growth rates are pretty good, I'm reasonably happy!
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Id say with certainty, that a large portion of fans would be very dissapointed if Zelda wasn't playing an active role. XD
Agreed!
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"...this is the same series where literal children are able to pick up swords and shields for the first time ever and with only a single training lesson or reading of a sign post are able to wield them with enough efficiency to slay giant monsters."
So just Link?
Yes? If Link, why not Zelda
@@NayruYT If Zelda can fight as well as Link AND seal Ganon (something that only she can do), what would be the point of having Link? If Link already has combat experience from the beginning of the game, and Zelda eventually learns and become as good as Link in combat and have her sealing powers, wouldn't that make him obsolete in the end? If you have 2 main characters, it's not a good idea to make 1 of them obsolete.
I don't know how, but they should somehow compliment each other in some way. Link has a set of skills that Zelda can never have and Zelda should have another set of skills that Link can never have and together, they end up saving the world from the bad guy that trumps both of them individually. When you get to the Ganon/Ganondorf/whoever fight at the end of the game, I think it would be cool if you can switch between characters and you must use both characters. That way, Zelda can be involved in the battle and it accentuates that they both need each other to defeat Mr. Bad Guy.
I still think that the Link should trump Zelda in combat because he IS suppose to be the (metaphorical) sword arm of the goddess. Being Hylia's chosen knight would imply that he does most of the dirty work and fighting. If Zelda is playable, she shouldn't be nearly as efficient as Link in combat (again, so that Link does not become obsolete) but have an exclusive set of skills that make her just as invaluable.
As for Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, I have own my head canon. I always bring Link, Zelda, and the King to the final battle. I bring Link and Zelda for obvious reasons and I bring the King because it IS his castle we're storming. In my head canon, Link is the one who does most of the damage to Calamity Ganon. That doesn't mean that Zelda isn't doing anything or that she's just support. She's just as involved in fighting off Calamity Ganon as Link is. However, I imagine that Link's overall combat skills are unsurpassed which makes him the main damage dealer. In my head canon, without Link, Zelda would've died because she doesn't have Link's combat skills. Without Zelda, Link would've barely "won" the fight against Calamity Ganon, but without a way to seal Calamity Ganon, Ganon would just regenerate and Link would've died shortly afterwards.
@@JCW5713 What the BOTW2 trailer shows is that Link could easily be assigned to another kind of fighting skills that Zelda doesn't have. The glowing hand seems to be a replacement for Link to use a sword.
If Link cannot use the Master Sword but can use the magical hand as his new weapon, he would effectively be a new Zelda, especially if Zelda's sacred power has completely dwindled. A role reversal for the two characters.
It would also show that Link can be more than just a knight with a sword. He can be anything Nintendo wants him to be, like a wizard.
@@evanbao93 A wizard Link does sound pretty cool. It makes me think of other possible iterations of Link. Ninja Link, inventor Link, etc.
I'm still a bit hung up on Zelda having Link's level of combat skills. It's mostly the lore that's getting me hung up. BotW makes it clear that Link's skills are not normal (the guy's so tough he eats rocks). Isn't it Link's lineage as Hylia's chosen knight what gives him his extraordinary combat skills? Zelda's lineage as Hylia is what gives Zelda her sealing powers and affinity for light magic. If Zelda learns how to fight, I don't think she'll ever reach Link's level because of Link's lineage. If Link somehow learns how to use Zelda's sealing powers, I don't think any amount of training will make his seal last nearly as long as Zelda's due to her lineage. I'd give Link's seal about a week before Ganon breaks free.
You suggestion for role reversal is interesting though. I'm up for it if Nintendo can pull it off in a way that doesn't mess with the lore too much. Either way, as long as both Link and Zelda have skills that don't make the other character obsolete, and the game is designed so that both characters have equal importance (don't just give us hour's worth of Zelda for the entire game), the game should turn out great.
I wouldn’t be upset at all if they split this game down the middle with half of it being playable Zelda and the other half link
That would be rad as hell
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Zelda being like Eleven in Stranger Things
I love it
I think people are forgetting that in the ending with all memories and Devine beasts Zelda looks at the shieka slate and says that Mipha’s Divine beast [ I can’t remember the name ] is having some problems and they should check it out
Maybe, hear me out, we have a situation like in Windwaker where she does get captured but basically finds herself a way out. Giving a reason even to her haircut, like we play it in parts with Zelda studying stuff, then as she is about to get captured or is captured she cuts her hair freeing her setting up a tutorial on how she fights back on enemies. Actually It would be cool if in the first half you can basically swap between them each being support for each other in combat. I mean we see what the divine beast's champions do for Link but not much for Zelda if those are in this game. Like Zelda using Daruk's power less like a bubble shield and an extra heart but more offensive like a pushing wall or moving force. Or Urbosa's lightning move can stun enemies while link strikes them down she uses a bow.
I even like the personality of this Zelda more being comfortable with technology and finding things to work on between the Hyrule races, like imagine her being able to repair Link's damaged weapons or even tempering them with magic. Sure it's not playable in that case but she would be more supporting than ever, even if that would just make her essentially a great fairy....
I love it!
I would like her to fight alongside you similarly to Atreus in God of War. But also interested her to play as her and her being more sneaky and stealthy as her offence and have her solve puzzles and solve different ways that would be pretty cool. I would also be intrigued to see Ganondorf’s side of the story as the game plays along, kinda how he sees the stories in his eyes as the story progresses. And having Ganondorf memories of the past, similar to Zelda’s memories in the first breath of the wild
I have another theory, what if Zelda does fall and Link fails to catch her, and as the game goes his guilt and anger grows, like we get to see some cutscenes and see Link and Zelda's relationship has gotten closer and stronger. But now that shes presumably thought to be dead Link's inner anger and sorrow of losing her is slowly changing him. He also lost the master sword so their is no gauging himself on his emotions. But then Zelda comes back to him and when he sees her he is instantly relieved of all those negative emotions. But since Link is the hero and has the heroes spirit all that negative emotion has to go somewhere and just like when orochimaru released from Sasuke when he ran out of chakra in his fight with Itachi in the anime naruto, those dark emotions split from links body and manifest into Dark Link. Then link and zelda fight dark link but he gets away and he becomes a recurring enemy miniboss throughout the game like king bulblin in twilight princess and Link finally kills dark link near the end of game with the master sword once he gets it back.
Any excuse to bring Dark Link back is good in my books
@@NayruYT It would be awesome I know that!
It's very easy to overthink this concept, and for very good reason. It's no wonder I've doubled back and forth on it across several videos. The possibilities are sky-high and there are so many different viewpoints on what would and wouldn't work.
Personally I think it would be a brilliant middle ground to have her hang out with the scientists and upgrade stuff for you as well as giving her little MGS codec convos. She's not playable, but at least she plays a bigger role.
Honestly though, I would be completely fine if she's just not present until the very end. I'd rather they focus on making this game a great experience either way; building upon everything good about BOTW while restoring and merging in the "Zelda" that it was missing. And if you ask me, it already looks like the game I wanted. Super stoked to find out more.
I would love to see her fulfill a scholarly role, I think it'd be the perfect arc for her character, getting to move on and be what she always wanted to be
11:49 Warrior Queen, after all her father has already passed on. I'm also hoping to switch back and forth, also hoping that the Sheika Slate is with her somehow since Link has the magic arm for now :)
While playable Zelda is my ideal, I mostly just don’t want her shoved in a box for the majority of the game. I’d be happy if she served a support or narrative role from the sidelines, perhaps even showing up to help with some dungeons that require two people to solve.
In regards to the Underground Zelda theory, I think it likely she would have the Shiekah Slate with her. With that, and some of her magical power, she could defend herself without being a full warrior. I imagine her unable to do backflips and flurry rushes, but able to block and parry with a timed sealing barriers. Her method of attack being a bow with rechargeable light arrows. Her role in the underground? My idea is she needs to find nexus points of Malice, and purity it, clearing it from the overworld for Link.
I don't have a problem with Zelda wielding the Master Sword, but i don't like her just becoming a second Link. I'd rather have her use a mix of Technology and magic to defend herself, but i don't want her to just be the same as Link only female. In a new game that would be cool too though, just not in this scenario.
I am the most noob zelda casual.of all time but I love your videos. It's interesting to see how much value you can conjure up
Thank you Roxx! Means a lot coming from another great content creator
Also, it's interesting how you didn't bring up the minish cap (unless you mention it late in the video I'm still watching), as it is an interesting example of zelda being captive the majority of the game. The game shows that link is clearly close to zelda, then has her turn to stone protecting you. And the game is mainly focused effectively on kind of racing vaati to rescue zelda before he gets the light force, and when you find out that zelda has the light force, it's a race to rescue zelda before vaati gets the light force. In fact, if you are too slow, you literally game over because of it.
If you can't tell I love minish cap. I honestly think she is my favorite version of zelda personally, because she's basically just a kid who is link's friend, and yes you basically have to rescue her, but what I like is the actual legitimate urgency at the end. Rescuing zelda before its too late.
I doubt it would happen, but I have a dream idea where Zelda is Link's companion where she's complimentary to Link's moveset, so you pretty much play both at the same time.
Imagine that she's in some sort of goddess mode where she isn't completely tangible and she floats around with Link and you can trigger her abilities as you play as Link.
Furthermore, you could have asymmetrical couch co-op where the second player controls Zelda but they have no need to walk around since Zelda would still be tied to Link. They could have more freedom with when her abilities can be activated perhaps-maybe Zelda's abilities in single player only activated with successful combos and moves so she requires no extra buttons, but a co-op player can activate them on a cool down instead.
And then even crazier: optional online multiplayer where Zelda becomes tangible and is played by someone else on anothwr screen. She doesn't even need to have the same abilities-it could still be asymmetrical where she has more goddess abilities to compensate. Maybe she doesn't even use weapons at all, so they would play very differently.
It's never going to happen, but I love this idea of option co-op that doesn't detract from single player (I have a twin; we have played BotW with split joy-cons, but I'd love to play a proper Zelda co-op with her). And then the idea of having multiplayer with Link and Zelda instead of multiple Link's really is a pipe dream.
It's never going to happen, but I can dream
I must have zelda as a warrior!
even tho I know it is not going to happen :(
I feel your pain!
I would like a two player feature for zelda
I would like to see Zelda communicating with the champions' spirits or interacting with Impa and Pura who are kind of her best friends in Age of Calamity..
13:48 Actually, I’d say you’d inadvertently call the developers something along those lines (like others have) by claiming such a safe option is the most likely.
I think, narratively speaking, Zelda being captive at the beginning of BotW works because you hunt down Link's memories and you want to save Zelda, you want her to live her researcher life with no calamity. My girlfriend played the game recently and she was really looking forward to save Zelda just to see she and Link being together again.
If they just make Zelda captive to be rescued again, it'll not have any impact and people who already saved her the last time will feel frustrated. It'll be from "daaawn Zelda don't cry, I'll save you, hang in there, woman!" to "I don't believe this, she's useless". So I really hope you're wrong about what you believe it's more likely to happen (and I bet you hope this too haha)
And while I'd love to play as a badass Zelda warrior at the end, it makes me think about the whole triforce and destiny thing. Power destroys everything, kidnaps Wisdom from the people and only the boy with Courage can make it right. But if Wisdom inherits Courage too, what happens to Link's role? I think about it not in a "go back to library, girl", but in a "I'm curious about what twist this predicament creates for Link" way.
I like the thought! And I think that a Link and Zelda working together can work in tandem as Spirit Tracks showed, even if it isn't specifically a Zelda killing dudes with a sword.
@@NayruYT Yes I would love that. A Spirit Tracks way to do this would be making Zelda control Guardians like she controlled Phantoms in ST, but with technology instead of... spirited away.
But I'd also love to play as her as a warrior, even throwing ninjutsus and shurikens like Impa in AoC isn't off the table since Sheik exists.
And I prefer to control girls in games, I'm looking forward to that and I look forward for your next videos about it. It always inspires me.
If Wisdom inherits Courage, then Courage can inherit Wisdom. And you get a role reversal where the two heroes are thrown into a new scenario where they're not so familiar with. A Zelda with no sacred powers and has to use weapons that Link would use to defend herself and a Link who is given sacred powers but at the cost of being unable to wield the weapons he would otherwise enjoy.
@@evanbao93 That actually makes Sense with a lot of theories!
Honestly I’d be kinda surprised if we get a playable Zelda. Not because it’s unconventional but because it just wouldn’t this incarnation of Zelda. This one is meant to be more of a scholar and has had more of a backseat presence for quiet some time. I would be very pleased though to see a more active role for her.
That is totally fair!
Please what is the soundtrack playing from the beggining til 1:30?
ask and you shall receive
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@@NayruYT Thank you very much, let me say that I found your channel when you cooporated with Xenogamer, and I have seen a few videos of yours, and they are very good, got a new follower. Well thanks again.
Maybe this could be an attempt to show good contrast between linear an open world gameplay, where similar to another comment, after Link completes a dungeon, instead of being a cutscene, it could be a possibly 10 minute playable section that's Zelda exploring the caves and having to do something. I don't know if it'd be ideal since it might feel disjointed from Link gameplay, but it's an idea. Good video
Thank you, and I like the idea!
I'm not predicting she'll be playable in BotW 2. Honestly if anything I'd be surprised if she's playable. There's a lot of, of not always a new and creative way to play a new Zelda game. From Wolf Link in Twilight to the stylus touch screen way to play in the DS games. So if they include that gauntlet whatever it is on Link's arm and then also add a playable Zelda on top of that, that'd be surprising and fantastic. I'm just not predicting it tho bc as far as my knowledge, she's never been playable in any main line Zelda game.
She hasn't so far, but there's a first for everything!
@@NayruYT very true, it would just be unexpected to have people theorize and expect it then Nintendo actually give us what we expected. That would truly be unexpected.
I don't think I want her to be playable the way BOTW2's last trailer seems to show. I think it would simply destroy the role play of the game switching between Link high up in the sky or surface and Zelda being underground.
Since they're separated at what seems to be the very beginning, I think it will look like Skyward Sword where she's on her own quest, searching or discovering things under the surface of Hyrule and at some point in the story, where we meet again she's going to join us and gain some partner abilities.
Also technically in BOTW (even if she "lost" her powers), she could just telepathically speak to Link, it wasn't very used but we could get something like WW to be able to speak with her during the phase of the game where she's underground.
I don't really consider Zelda to be a roleplaying game so that wouldn't be a worry for me at all!
6:29 LMAO WHO MADE THAT SHIT
My magnum opus
I really like your videos.
But I thought only the hero can wield the Master Sword, unless she uses her power to create a sword like the one the sages used to kill Ganondorf
what if Zelda has a sister that was evil and has falls in love with Ganon ( like she has the same powers as Zelda exepet dark and Malice like and look like Lusamine from pokemon ) ( if this was a new Ganon fight, Link and Zelda will try to Seal Ganon with "Zeldas Dark Sister" fight with Malice ( think AOC Zelda's Bow of light atacks but Malice like ) ( So... this idea is like Zelda having dark sister.... and a incarnation of Hylia, but Demise like. ) ( Simmler to Vatti, Zeldas sister can shape shift to other charaters ( Think the Yiga clan ) to trick LInk and Zelda
10/10
@@NayruYT Well, Im glad you like the idea Nayru!
i hope we can play as her i wanna look into that mod now
Most likely Zelda will be out of play for the rest of BOTW 2 and won't appear again to help Link until the inevitable Final Battle against Ganondorf, and unlike TP and OOT Zelda, I doubt this one will just stand there and watch Link battle Ganondorf on his own unlike previous incarnations, but to be fair those incarnations were blocked off from assisting Link due to the circumstances, unlike WW Zelda.
Sad but true
Does she have bananas
She better!
Zelda would be cool to play as but linkle would be a surprise and be cooler to play as if she even made an appearance in the game
I looking forward to playing the new games. But at the ending breath of the wild weave me thinking a thousand questions. Like is Zelda going to be Queen,? why didn't she age,? how come in the link memories everyone sings to know the world's going to end,? Where did all the extinct race come from? Is link some kind of a clone? Starting to think that impa is a time traveler or one of the goddess or the true wielder of the triforce of knowledge?
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Yarrgh
Uh I wasn't listening because Zelda lullaby is playing,oops
1. Zelda falls, explores underground with the slate
2. Link ends up in the past to prevent the calamity and save zelda, and has the arm.
3. Past link is now tapestry Link.
4. Link has something to do with the arm holding ganondorf under the castle.
5. Thus, playable Zelda in the present, playable link in the past as the hero from the tapestry who answers all our questions.
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They say that if your speculation can't be easily explained/summarised in a single sentence, then it's most likely not accurate...
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Ever heard of Halo 2?
When I saw that image it looked like Samus
I can see the resemblance!
Look at the hand of Link when he use his rewind power, its the same light as the Triforce ! When i think about it maybe Zelda give a little bit of her massive magic power of the Triforce to link because its the EXACT same light as when you hold ZR with the bow of light in botw 1
Would make sens that if Zelda give a fraction of her power to link this power glow with the same light as another thing that have a fraction of her power in it
Or maybe Link gets the Triforce of Courage again? Interesting to think about!
I get why they're so set on their whole Link/Zelda/Ganon dynamic but let me tell you, as someone who grew up a girl and still adore this series to pieces as a queer adult, if I could play as Zelda I am 99% certain that I would literally cry with joy. Like seriously Nintendo, girls and women (and all manner of people who identify in different ways) love your games too, not just boys and men. I don't understand why they didn't go the "choose Link's gender" route with Breath of the Wild. It would impact very little overall, but it would be more inclusive! You could still have the romantic storylines, (queer women exist!!!) you'd just have to change a few pronouns here and there.
...And I suppose it would affect Gerudo Town's whole thing actually, but I don't think that's really a big loss... If they still wanted you to get the Gerudo outfit you could just have them confuse Link for a guy? Although in that case, having a game misgender your character like that might be a little upsetting.
I don't know, and we never will know because Nintendo just didn't even try lol
I agree! I love the Zelda's Ballad mod for BotW, and Zelda as the protagonist still feels very "in place," so it even would have been cool to give you the option of whether you wanted Zelda or Link to be trapped with Ganon and the other playable
@@NayruYT that would have been so neat honestly ahhhh
It's not happening. Not in this game anyway.
You're probably right!
i would prefer her to be with us rather than playing as her ..
Not first
You were first in your heart
@@NayruYT yes
Don’t lie who went straight to the comments
I'm prepared for them 😈